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Jason Gregor
September 19 2009 12:15PM

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Last night I dreamed Dioro Baird had a thing for a shaved head, big mouthed, farm boy from New Sarepta, but when I woke up the only thing spooning me was my pillow.

I guess only Mike Comrie had a fairytale evening last night.

Comrie’s four assist and a fight performance was the biggest pre-season performance we’ve seen in Edmonton in ages, maybe ever. Last year Comrie was in the list of top three most hated former Oilers by all of you, unless someone from the Comrie family is reading this.

And today, most of you are loving him. And why not, he has spunk and clearly he still has some offensive flair.

Six points in two pre-season games so far, for #91, and don’t think he doesn’t know what Edmontonians like, because he asked Eric Himelfarb to dance, “We were facing off, and I just asked him.”

Hockey fans in every city love guys who can fight, hit or score, and if you can combine any of those attributes you become a fan favourite.

The only problem with Comrie’s performance is that it muddies the centre position.Though he has been lining up at different positions throughout camp and was playing LW last night he has definitely raised eyebrows amongst the Coaching staff and left heads scratching where to slot him in going forward. It would seem clear that Cogliano will have to move to the wing, because why move Comrie when he is producing the way he has. I know it is only pre-season, but six points in two games, regardless of the opposition is damn impressive.

Comrie will get a day to relax and soak up the fact he is back in the good books in good ole E-town. How can you not cheer for him? He wanted to come back to Edmonton, and money wasn’t the issue. He is a proud guy and he wants to prove to his hometown that he isn’t a spoiled-brat who turned his back on his hometown. He has matured, and he wants to write another chapter in what might turn out to be one of the best fairy-tales we’ve seen in Edmonton in a long time.

Lineup tonight

The Oilers will dress another veteran-laden lineup tonight.

Gilbert Brule gets a chance to show he has some offensive flair in his hometown.

Brule— Gagner — Hemsky Penner — Cogliano — Eberle Moreau — Pouliot — Nilsson McDonald — Reddox — MacIntyre

Smid — Souray Motin — Grebeshkov Taylor — Young

JDD and DD in goal.

Interesting to see Reddox in the middle again tonight. He gets treated like the red-headed step child by many Oiler fans, but the coaching staff loves his speed and tenacity on the puck. He is a serious contender for the fourth line centre slot, even though he wasn’t on anyone’s radar for that spot when camp broke. I don’t see him winning that job, but I could see him being the 13th or 14th forward due to his versatility and willingness to compete for the puck.

Nilsson plays the RW tonight. He told me before camp he is comfortable on either wing, and if O’Sullivan stays on the left side, the Oilers don’t have anyone who can play the right wing on the 2nd line. Sorry, Eberle isn’t ready just yet, and the Oilers won’t rush him. Pat Quinn has said on many occasions the Blue Jackets screwed up the development of Brule by not playing him when he was with the big club, and I don’t see Quinn doing the same to Eberle. He is very close, but he is still a year away.

The Canucks will start Robert Luongo in goal tonight, so the Oilers’ forwards will face their toughest goaltender to date. Both teams come in 3-0 in the preseason, and will the records don’t mean anything in a week, you know both teams want to keep their perfect record intact.

The Canucks won’t have as many veterans dressed as the Oilers. According to the Oilers site Bieska, Salo, Lukowich and Edler will be on the blueline while Kesler, Johnson, Wellwood, Parrish, Hordichuk and Samuelsson will play up front.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#151 The Menace
September 19 2009, 10:07PM
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JDD has made some nice saves.

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#152 BarryS
September 19 2009, 10:09PM
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The Menace wrote:

these guys are supposed to be our good players.

Well some of them, anyway.

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#153 The Menace
September 19 2009, 10:10PM
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both of the games on the "out of town scoreboard" they just listed were also in Vancouver. maybe the "in town scoreboard"?

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#154 jeanshorts
September 19 2009, 10:13PM
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And Oilers suck chant? Really? In pre-season? AND the Canucks are winning? I hate Canuck fans soooooo much.

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#155 Shapeman
September 19 2009, 10:13PM
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great now they are chanting oilers suck what a crappy game this turned out to be

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#156 17
September 19 2009, 10:14PM
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this has been a borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring game.

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#157 The Menace
September 19 2009, 10:14PM
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@ jeanshorts: Maybe an oilers fan in the crowd started it - we do suck tonight.

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#158 17
September 19 2009, 10:15PM
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Canuck fans are the worst.

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#159 jeanshorts
September 19 2009, 10:16PM
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@ The Menace:

This is very, very true.

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#160 17
September 19 2009, 10:19PM
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boooooooooooo

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#161 Shapeman
September 19 2009, 10:19PM
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oilers fail tonight better pull up their socks tomorrow night

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#162 BarryS
September 19 2009, 10:20PM
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17 wrote:

boooooooooooo

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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#163 David S
September 19 2009, 10:20PM
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Wow. Some Oilers butts are going to be kicked after this one.

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#164 jeanshorts
September 19 2009, 10:21PM
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Quinn is probably going to punch someone in the face in the room. And they'll deserve it.

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#165 Porter
September 19 2009, 10:21PM
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Terrible game... No energy from the bottom six tonight.

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#166 The Menace
September 19 2009, 10:21PM
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David S wrote:

Wow. Some Oilers butts are going to be kicked after this one.

i hope so. that's one thing that was missing last year I think.

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#167 David S
September 19 2009, 10:22PM
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Shapeman wrote:

oilers fail tonight better pull up their socks tomorrow night

No problem. We've got Comrie and O'Sullivan tomorrow. Its pretty obvious this group doesn't give a crap.

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#168 jeanshorts
September 19 2009, 10:23PM
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Whatever. I'd rather get the kinks out now and get the sluggish games out of the way before the real games start. And games like this are an easy way for Pat Quinn to draw the line in the sand.

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#169 Harlie
September 19 2009, 10:23PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Quinn is probably going to punch someone in the face in the room. And they’ll deserve it.

Buchberger?

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#170 The Menace
September 19 2009, 10:23PM
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@ jeanshorts: IQWT!

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#171 Eric
September 19 2009, 10:26PM
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Maybe most of them already now they are gonna be cut soon. Sure hope Nilsson is one of them.....

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#172 jeanshorts
September 19 2009, 10:26PM
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The Menace wrote:

@ jeanshorts: IQWT!

Exactly! I'd be surprised if there were more than a handful of these kind of games during the regular season.

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#173 jeanshorts
September 19 2009, 10:27PM
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@ Harlie:

If there was one guy you could punch without having anyone notice after, it'd be him.

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#174 Harlie
September 19 2009, 10:28PM
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@ jeanshorts:

thats why Quinn kept him on staff.

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#175 BarryS
September 19 2009, 10:29PM
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I was nilsson, I wouldn't send my laundry out, same with Taylor, Young, McDonald, Brule, and Pouliot. It was regular season Cogliano would haved earned a couple games in the pressbox. big Smak made a nice rush and otherwise played a safe game. Gagner and Hemsky were ships in the night this game, they have nothing for chemistry.

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#176 jeanshorts
September 19 2009, 10:30PM
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Seriously why do they package buns in 12 packs, but burgers only come in 8 packs? COULD THIS NIGHT GET ANY WORSE???????

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#177 David S
September 19 2009, 10:32PM
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BarryS wrote:

Gagner and Hemsky were ships in the night this game, they have nothing for chemistry.

Because Hemsky is a complete no-show during pre-season games. Both guys have to at least put in an effort in order to have some chemistry. Hemsky's just floating around trying not to get hurt.

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#178 David S
September 19 2009, 10:34PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Seriously why do they package buns in 12 packs, but burgers only come in 8 packs?

Dude. Backyard barbeque-ery 101. Prolly just a mental lapse. OR maybe you miss BM a bit too much.

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#179 BarryS
September 19 2009, 10:36PM
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David S wrote:

jeanshorts wrote: Seriously why do they package buns in 12 packs, but burgers only come in 8 packs? Dude. Backyard barbeque-ery 101. Prolly just a mental lapse. OR maybe you miss BM a bit too much.

Just as bad, weners by the dozen, wener buns by 8's

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#180 RossCreek
September 19 2009, 10:43PM
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Didn't watch; thoughts on... Brule/Pouliot/Nilsson/Reddox? Johan Motin?

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#181 David S
September 19 2009, 10:53PM
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RossCreek wrote:

Brule/Pouliot/Nilsson/Reddox? Johan Motin?

Crap game. The vets took the night off and the guys mentioned above were hung out to dry as a result. Nilsson and Reddox were trying, but no support.But they didn't look to sh!t hot either.

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#182 esa tikkanen
September 19 2009, 11:02PM
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at least Quinn Renny et al have the pleasure of seeing what oilers fans saw too many times the last two seasons. a bunch of small players losing battles and the other team having a large edge in time of possession, shots, chances, time spent in your zone etc. the oilers can't cycle and the other teams cycle very well against them. hopefully quinn has a solution to this (bigger players) based on this game, i would send gagner and nilsson to the minors. someone can claim nilsson and gagner can get his slow start on the minor league team so we don't dig such a big whole until he decides to play in january. not like that will happen but it would be nice if these guys didn't mail in the games.

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#183 BarryS
September 19 2009, 11:20PM
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esa tikkanen wrote:

i would send gagner ... to the minors

Gagner has an indifferent game, its true, but at least he was on the puck, Brule and Hemsky were even worse. I think Gagner and Hemsky will not be a productive pairing.

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#184 Jamie
September 19 2009, 11:20PM
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So does anyone who played tonight play tomorrow too?

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#185 RossCreek
September 19 2009, 11:23PM
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Cut's Tonite my guess down to:

21 Forwards - Horcoff Penner Hemsky O'Sullivan Pisani Moreau Nilssson Gagner Comrie Cogliano Pouliot Stortini Jacques Brule

Schremp Potulny MacIntyre Reddox Stone Brennan

Eberle

11 D-men - Visnovsky Souray Gilbert Grebeshkov Staios Smid Strudwick Chorney Peckham Motin Arsene 3 Goalies - Khabibulin Delorean Dubnyk

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#186 RossCreek
September 19 2009, 11:24PM
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BarryS wrote:

Brule and Hemsky were even worse

I believe the broadcast on CHED said Brule was the best forward ??

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#187 BarryS
September 19 2009, 11:32PM
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@ RossCreek: I would have said Eberle played better, had more shots anyway, not any of the forwards played very well.

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#188 The Menace
September 19 2009, 11:39PM
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BarryS wrote:

David S wrote: jeanshorts wrote: Seriously why do they package buns in 12 packs, but burgers only come in 8 packs? Dude. Backyard barbeque-ery 101. Prolly just a mental lapse. OR maybe you miss BM a bit too much. Just as bad, weners by the dozen, wener buns by 8’s

if you could somehow fit a wiener into an hamburger bun, you'd have it made. we'd all have it made.

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#189 Porter
September 19 2009, 11:41PM
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@ RossCreek: Brule at least threw his weight around.... he was close to the only Oiler forward who hit anyone....

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#190 RossCreek
September 19 2009, 11:58PM
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Marc Pouliot to Washington for Boyd Gordon

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#191 Eric
September 20 2009, 12:05AM
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It seems we play horribly every 2nd game which coincidentally showcases the same core of players...

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#192 ShaunDoe
September 20 2009, 12:17AM
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I couldn't agree more with the Gagner and Hemsky not having any chemistry statement. They just couldn't get the puck to one another and were passing to places they thought each other might be only to find that that player just wasn't there. That whole line looked lost from the two periods I saw. IT seemed as if Gagner and Brule couldn't wait to dish the puck to Hemsky as if they thought they would pick up brownie points or a pat on the head for it.

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#193 RossCreek
September 20 2009, 01:30AM
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Cogliano-Horcoff-Hemsky O'Sullivan-Comrie-Jacques Penner-Gagner-Pisani Moreau-Brule-Stortini Stone-Reddox-MacIntyre Schremp-Pouliot-Eberle Brennan-Potulny-Nilsson

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#194 Dallas
September 20 2009, 01:48AM
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I think that if they are going to throw Gagner with Hemmer that they just need a few more games together

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#195 David S
September 20 2009, 02:50AM
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ShaunDoe wrote:

I couldn’t agree more with the Gagner and Hemsky not having any chemistry statement

Problem is, Hemsky doesn't give a crap during pre-season. Hemsky and Gagner might be dyno-mite together. But you won't see it unless something's on the line.

Look at Comrie/O'Sullivan. Both of those guys have something to prove before the season starts. Thus, they're working hard to click.

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#196 David S
September 20 2009, 02:51AM
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RossCreek wrote:

Penner-Gagner-Pisani

Seriously man. You're vastly over-rating Pisani.

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#197 Charlie
September 20 2009, 03:17AM
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David S wrote:

RossCreek wrote: Penner-Gagner-Pisani Seriously man. You’re vastly over-rating Pisani.

Seriously man, the dude was a sniper for the run in '06. How is it a vast overrating to have him on the third line?

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#198 ShaunDoe
September 20 2009, 05:15AM
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David S wrote:

ShaunDoe wrote: I couldn’t agree more with the Gagner and Hemsky not having any chemistry statement Problem is, Hemsky doesn’t give a crap during pre-season. Hemsky and Gagner might be dyno-mite together. But you won’t see it unless something’s on the line. Look at Comrie/O’Sullivan. Both of those guys have something to prove before the season starts. Thus, they’re working hard to click.

Yeah but here I was thinking that that culture was supposed to be thrown out the window on a team where even the veterans had something to prove to an all new coaching staff. Pre-season is where you are supposed to develope chemistry with new line mates so you aren't left figuring out the works when the games are actually worth something. What does that say to the rest of the team when their "best" player has taken an extra 3 weeks vacation? Hopefully no one is paying enough attention to wonder.

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#199 cableguy
September 20 2009, 08:36AM
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esa tikkanen wrote:

at least Quinn Renny et al have the pleasure of seeing what oilers fans saw too many times the last two seasons. a bunch of small players losing battles and the other team having a large edge in time of possession, shots, chances, time spent in your zone etc. the oilers can’t cycle and the other teams cycle very well against them. hopefully quinn has a solution to this (bigger players) based on this game, i would send gagner and nilsson to the minors. someone can claim nilsson and gagner can get his slow start on the minor league team so we don’t dig such a big whole until he decides to play in january. not like that will happen but it would be nice if these guys didn’t mail in the games.

keep the roster essentially the same and expect a different result.

it is Oiler Hockey 101.

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#200 hungoverman
September 20 2009, 09:16AM
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David S wrote:

ShaunDoe wrote: I couldn’t agree more with the Gagner and Hemsky not having any chemistry statement Problem is, Hemsky doesn’t give a crap during pre-season. Hemsky and Gagner might be dyno-mite together. But you won’t see it unless something’s on the line. Look at Comrie/O’Sullivan. Both of those guys have something to prove before the season starts. Thus, they’re working hard to click.

I'm wondering if it isn't Hemsky who is the problem? As talented as he is I just wonder if he may indeed be part of the problems on this team. Would you trade him for 2 first rounders ala Mr. Kessel?

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