Do You See What I See Edition VI

Jason Gregor
September 24 2009 09:29AM

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Tonight Oiler fans will be lucky to watch your team from the comfort of your couch on your big screen TV, rather than your laptop, and the game should be more enjoyable.

I can’t stand watching a movie on my laptop, nevermind an NHL game, and even if I have to listen to a goalie analyst on TSN tonight I’ll still be happy.

Here’s what I saw from last night’s game, and I’ll bet some of you saw it differently.

  • JF Jacques has finally realized what he needs to do to be an effective NHL player: hit, move his feet, protect the puck, be physical, lay some greasy/questionable hits and shoot the puck. Jacques has been the biggest surprise of camp and he played solid again last night — 16:11 of icetime, with a goal, two shots on net, three hits and a fight. He probably won’t stay with Horcoff and Hemsky (more on that later), but right now he has moved ahead of Ethan Moreau on the LW depth chart. I think Moreau is on the 4th line and Jacques will be in the top nine.
  • Dustin Penner can be effective when he moves his feet. This shouldn’t be a surprise, but the big man didn’t do it last year, and he didn’t do it consistently in 2007/08 either. But he has been very solid in every game so far this preseason, regardless of who he has played with. He hasn’t looked slow alongside Cogliano or Brule, and I’m betting it’s only a matter of time before he finds himself back with Horcoff and Hemsky. But could this team be better if he plays on a different line? If Penner is going to be this effective with Cogliano, maybe it’s best to play him there and spread out the scoring. I’ve always liked a Penner/Cogliano/Pisani combination, and I think it could work well. But that can only happen if Jacques continues to play like he has so far, and that is a BIG if.
  • Does Hemsky look frustrated or is he hesitant? In talking to him it would seem to be more of the latter. Sure, he’d like to score more, but he is focusing on understanding exactly what Quinn wants from him. Last night, he didn’t see the ice much in the first, due to the five Flames’ powerplays, and he never seemed to get on track after that. On the PP, the Oilers looked lost, but since they haven’t practiced the powerplay yet, that isn’t a surprise. I can tell you this, that Quinn wants to see more dedication from Hemsky on the ice, and a bit more leadership off of it. He wants Hemsky to work a bit more with the young guys, and I think we’ll see that once the team is picked.
  • I never saw why many thought Ryan Stone was going to make this team. He can’t skate well enough to be a regular in my mind. Last night, his footspeed, or lack thereof, was obvious. He is gritty, and doesn’t shy away, but against regular NHL defencemen he wasn’t a factor. I would take Reddox over Stone, because Reddox works just as hard, and while he can’t hit guys as well, he skates better and can cause more havoc.
  • Kip Brennan was a nice story, but he’ll be in Springfield. He isn’t better than Stortini, and isn’t as tough as MacIntyre.
  • If Gagner plays with Comrie and O’Sullivan will they be effective? Comrie and Gagner are fairly gritty for their size, but neither will wow you with their speed and they won’t knock many guys off the puck. Quinn has stated many times that this team loses too many battles, so I wonder if he’d consider using them as a trio.
  • Smid, Grebeshkov and Visnovsky struggled mightily last night. Smid handled the puck like it was a hot potato. Grebeshkov made many bad reads, and got out muscled on Glencross’ shorthanded marker, while Visnovsky really struggled along the boards, and lost too many battles. In Visnovsky’s case I’ll give him a break because he hasn’t played much in last seven months, but Grebeshkov and Smid need to pick up their game.
  • Do you think that Staios might be a calming influence on Smid, and not a detriment like many fans feel?
  • Gilbert Brule will be here to start the season. Quinn is warming up to him more every day. Brule was very effective last night. He needs to move his feet consistently and if he continues to be close to 58% in the dot, he’ll get even more icetime.
  • I can’t believe that some people think Stortini is on the bubble. Wake up people he brings much of what Quinn wants. Tenacity, wins battles, makes smart decisions and is a good forechecker. I think a Moreau/Brule/Stortini line could make life tough on opposing d-men.
  • Pouliot and Pisani were both scheduled to play tonight, but both will sit out due to minor injuries. Pisani pulled a muscle in his back at practice on Tuesday and it tightened up on him. He is hoping to play on Sunday. Pouliot has a slight leg issue, but again it doesn’t seem that serious.
  • Many have wondered if Pisani is on the bubble, and I’d agree he hasn’t done much in his two games, he rarely loses one-on-one battles on the boards. Quinn knows he needs more guys like that in the lineup, and I think on that reason alone Pisani will stick.
  • Is tonight the last game Rob Schremp plays as an Oiler? I can’t see any scenario that doesn’t involve him being sent down. Will another team pick him up, or will Schremp have to prove himself in the minors? I sure don’t think it is a guarantee another team will pick him up.
  • Nilsson played okay last night, but was it enough to keep him around? My gut tells me no.
  • Theo Fleury, God bless you for straightening you life out, because the bottle has damaged too many good people, but you don’t have the foot speed to play in the NHL. Your hockey sense is still there, but your speed isn’t. If playing in the AHL helps with your healing process good on you, and if you just needed to see for yourself that the NHL is in your past, I respect that. A LOT. I hope you stay clean.
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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#51 I'm a Scientist!
September 24 2009, 10:50AM
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*slowly takes off his white glove and approaches bingofuel...stepping up to him he slaps him in the face with the glove*

Duel accepted.

*turns on his heels, put the glove under his arm and marches off to the punch bowl*

mmm... punch.

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#52 ScubaSteve
September 24 2009, 10:50AM
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@ Ogden Brother Jr.:

Both Dubnyk and JDD are on that list, but it looks like JDD will play D tonight, who let MacT write the lines?

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#53 Ogden Brother Jr.
September 24 2009, 10:50AM
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@ Eric: Which comment are you replying to? And I did mention yesterday that I wouldn't mind one vet going just to show that no one is safe. The current vets are just to damn comfortable.

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#54 EddieEdmonton
September 24 2009, 10:51AM
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i just got a text from a source better then eklund has had in years that the oilers and the atlanta thrashers a preparing a blockbuster of all trades it will be one of the biggest in the last decade here is what i know horcoff gilbert shremp or nillson and smid or staios for kovalchuk and one more cap player to make room it says it could happen as early as tomorrow morning

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#55 Gunner
September 24 2009, 10:54AM
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EddieEdmonton wrote:

i just got a text from a source better then eklund has had in years that the oilers and the atlanta thrashers a preparing a blockbuster of all trades it will be one of the biggest in the last decade here is what i know horcoff gilbert shremp or nillson and smid or staios for kovalchuk and one more cap player to make room it says it could happen as early as tomorrow morning

Ya. Right.

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#56 I'm a Scientist!
September 24 2009, 10:55AM
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@ EddieEdmonton: Put down the glue and walk away.

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#57 Jimmy
September 24 2009, 10:57AM
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@ I'm a Scientist!:

He needs it. He's making a scrapbook of his delusions.

Page 10 is a beauty - Nilsson + Staios + Pouliot to Boston for Chara, Krejci, and a 1st and 2nd rounder.

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#58 Ogden Brother Jr.
September 24 2009, 10:57AM
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@ EddieEdmonton: So his dog? Better then Eklund doesn't mean much.

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#59 EddieEdmonton
September 24 2009, 10:58AM
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@ I'm a Scientist!:but it smells so good

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#60 Steve from Yellowstone
September 24 2009, 10:59AM
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@ RossCreek: RossCreek wrote:

@ Gregor: Did I hear you say Columbus is looking to dump Jason Chimera? IMO, he’d be a better fit (style/age/salary) than Pisani (or even Moreau).

I'd agree with your Chimera comment for sure.

Jeff wrote:

I think the coaching staff has pretty much decided who they want and unless Schremp or Eberle score a hat trick each it will be back to the minor’s for both of them.

You are insane. Schrimp could score 40 goals and he's still gone.

It might be another year of frustration but if you look at what little ammount players are actually signed next year you can actually see the light at the end of the tunnel. Tamb will finally get a chance to build his own team. I hope JF makes the team. I hope Schremp takes a Greyhound out of the country. I hope Neilson gets a tan from the popcorn machine. I hope that Comrie doesn't mind me giving his girl a necklace as a welcome-to-edmonton gift.

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#61 EddieEdmonton
September 24 2009, 10:59AM
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@ Jimmy: if ur gonna make a joke dont go elemenatary on us with it

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#62 EddieEdmonton
September 24 2009, 11:00AM
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why does everyone think Penner is not our first LW anymore or wont be this season unless Kovalchuk arrives

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#63 Gunner
September 24 2009, 11:04AM
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@ EddieEdmonton: Who text you this information about ATL and Edmonton? Can you please let us know?

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#64 dyckster
September 24 2009, 11:05AM
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EddieEdmonton wrote:

i just got a text from a source better then eklund has had in years

That's not saying much.

EddieEdmonton wrote:

that the oilers and the atlanta thrashers a preparing a blockbuster of all trades it will be one of the biggest in the last decade here is what i know horcoff gilbert shremp or nillson and smid or staios for kovalchuk and one more cap player to make room it says it could happen as early as tomorrow morning

Don't try and pretend to be Wanye Gretz or any of the other writers who feed us ON'ers the REAL scoops. Keep writing that kind of garbage and I'd hope bingofuel would forever remove your comments from this site. Pure nonsense dude. Didn't get much attention when you were a kid eh?

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#65 StickHandler
September 24 2009, 11:08AM
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@ EddieEdmonton:

and you are...? oh right! eddie edmonton world-famous nobody.

seriously guy, no one knows you from spit. eklund has more credibility than you at this point.

still, kovalchuk an oiler... is that even a remote possibility?

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#66 Rick
September 24 2009, 11:10AM
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Hey Gregor, your TEAM 1260 cohort is twittering that the Oilers and Nashville may be talking.

Any insight on this?

They were clearly willing to take on salary when they were going after Kessel and obviosuly going after offence so could there be a chance that they would be looking at Nilsson?

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#67 imissedmonton
September 24 2009, 11:13AM
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what does Gregor think of this possible trade? heard any rumbling or anything? or ar they making us look one way when we should be looking the other.

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#68 I'm a Scientist!
September 24 2009, 11:14AM
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Just got a text...source is better than Eklund...

Now that Gretz has stepped down as the PHO coach, he is going to try out for the oilers, like what Theo Fleury is doing.

My top line would now look like this:

Gretz, Horc, Hemsky

Not a bad combo really.

*walks away and punches himself in the face*

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#69 Jimmy
September 24 2009, 11:16AM
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@ I'm a Scientist!:

Let's try to keep the maturity level above middle-school. Thanks for your cooperation.

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#70 EddieEdmonton
September 24 2009, 11:19AM
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@ dyckster: you sad little man

why must you insult me ?

oh and little stickhadler im not looking for friends or notoriety seriously read your guys comments its nothing more then sad that you have nothing else to say then cheap elemtary insults its truly sad i feel bad for you to even try to insult you back so sad

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#71 Bob Cob
September 24 2009, 11:20AM
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The only way a trade with Boston is worth while is if Milan Lucic is coming our way, he would be perfect for the Oilers. Thats not going to happen now that Kessel is in Toronto.

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#72 Gunner
September 24 2009, 11:22AM
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@ EddieEdmonton: I asked you a legitimate(sp?) question. Who is your source? Simple question really.

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#73 Ogden Brother Jr.
September 24 2009, 11:24AM
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@ Rick: Nilsson for Ward, if not Nilsson for a pick

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#74 Cal Gary
September 24 2009, 11:25AM
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@ EddieEdmonton: What about the Pouliot & Nilsson to Boston for Marc Savard rumor I just got texted?

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#75 EddieEdmonton
September 24 2009, 11:27AM
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k my source is this my friend told me that this morning he heard on montreal radio station that dudley was over heard talking to someone on while at the restaurant in tennesssee about a kovalchuk trade the radio station source told them that he over heard OILERS HORCOFF GILBERT NILLSON the rest he wasnt sure on so i added a touch there thast all i dont believe it my slef either but i would love if it happened

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#76 Boundz
September 24 2009, 11:29AM
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Gregor, can you clarify something once and for all?

Brule does not have to clear waivers if he is sent down because 1) he has three more NHL games to play before that kicks into effect, and 2) he hasn't played three full season in the minors.

This is my understanding, but it seems as though the local scribes think differently...

What is the correct answer?

Thanks,

Boundz in Toronto

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#77 scorecoff hemmercules
September 24 2009, 11:29AM
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bingofuel wrote:

@ The Towel Boy: Sweet… I’m going to create a group called — wait for it! — OilersNation. Join it.

I'm in! Don't forget that week 1 of that pool is only Oct. 1st and 2nd. I probably shouldn't have said anything but half the teams dont play on those two days.

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#78 Gunner
September 24 2009, 11:29AM
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@ EddieEdmonton: Put on your flame suit bud.

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#79 rindog
September 24 2009, 11:29AM
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Is there a full moon today? I can't remember the last time I agreed with everything you have said Gregor?

This is a great article Gregs!

I especially like Moreau insight.

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#80 dyckster
September 24 2009, 11:29AM
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@ EddieEdmonton:

This site is for blog based OPINIONS and general hockey conversation (unless we're commenting on a Wanye article :) ), not about spreading random, completely untrue rumors. If I or anybody else is wrong, name your source.....seriously. In other words, don't make sh*t up for the sake of argument. Not cool at all.

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#81 Cal Gary
September 24 2009, 11:30AM
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Rick wrote:

your TEAM 1260 cohort is twittering that the Oilers and Nashville may be talking.

Which cohort is that... so I can update my twitter bookmarks.

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#82 EddieEdmonton
September 24 2009, 11:30AM
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@ Gunner:?????????????????

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#83 RossCreek
September 24 2009, 11:30AM
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@ Boundz: Brule has to clear waivers.

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#84 Steve from Yellowstone
September 24 2009, 11:31AM
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I was just told from an even more reliable source (part of the Dutch resistance still hiding since 1945) that the Oilers are close to signing LW Johnny Bucyk as he has been talking about getting back on an NHL roster for the first time since his retirement. My source states that the oil are looking to bolster the LW with a proven NHL scoring threat....

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#85 Gunner
September 24 2009, 11:31AM
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@ EddieEdmonton: see post#80

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#86 EddieEdmonton
September 24 2009, 11:33AM
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@ dyckster: yo showerbag relax i put it on here to see if there was any truth to it i just woke up honestly whast ur problem? just your significant other is taking a black one from the back while you working dont try to take it out on me

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#87 Rick
September 24 2009, 11:33AM
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Ogden Brother Jr. wrote:

@ Rick: Nilsson for Ward, if not Nilsson for a pick

Nilsson for a pick would be fine by me. Preferred even.

It gets rid of a contract and clears the roster spot of a player that doesn't seem to fit into the line up anyways without further complicating the picture with another body in return.

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#88 Dan the Man
September 24 2009, 11:34AM
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@ EddieEdmonton: Please remove the "edmonton" from your name as you are an insult to Edmontonians everywhere......actually if you could remove the "eddie" as well since you are most likely an insult to Eddies everywhere as well.

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#89 swany
September 24 2009, 11:34AM
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Over on HF there is a thread that Omark wants to come over now there is even a Swedish news article on it. He's not happy in Russia and wants to come over here. Even Klowe responded saying if he wants to come over he has to get out of the KHL contract on his own and then the Oil would give him a look, if not then they wait till summer. anyone else seen the thread and what's the chances, the Atlanta thing NOT GOING TO HAPPEN no way they let Kovy go, not that I can see anyways but if that deal happened you might see a smile on Hemmer's face.

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#90 Jimmy
September 24 2009, 11:34AM
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Getting back to the article, I did alright hooking up my laptop to the serial port on my TV and using it as an external monitor. The Saskatoon game was brutal because I don't think the cameraman took his ritalin, but the others have been pretty decent.

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#91 Rick
September 24 2009, 11:34AM
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Cal Gary wrote:

Which cohort is that… so I can update my twitter bookmarks.

Dustin Neilson

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#92 Boundz
September 24 2009, 11:36AM
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@ Steve from Yellowstone:

Second question - what has changed this year, considering Brule had 3 more NHL games to play before that 'rule' kicked in?

Still thinking the opposite is true, no waivers, but hell, I've been wrong before..

Thanks,

Boundz

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#93 Rice
September 24 2009, 11:36AM
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Ogden Brother Jr. wrote:

@ Rick: Nilsson for Ward, if not Nilsson for a pick

I thought is said Nilsson for a puck and I was happy

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#94 swany
September 24 2009, 11:36AM
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Rick wrote:

Cal Gary wrote: Which cohort is that… so I can update my twitter bookmarks. Dustin Neilson

Nilsson for Tootoo???????

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#95 Ogden Brother Jr.
September 24 2009, 11:39AM
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@ Rick: I went to look at Nashville's roster and it is thin up front and in the back end. Joel Ward would be a good guy to try acquire if possible. But the pick wouldn't hurt either

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#96 EddieEdmonton
September 24 2009, 11:39AM
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@ Dan the Maneasy budddy

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#97 Ogden Brother Jr.
September 24 2009, 11:40AM
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@ Boundz: It's all based on age and games played and no one really has come out and said one way or another.

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#98 Propeller
September 24 2009, 11:41AM
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Amen about Fleury. Haven't always liked or respected him, but I respect that he's overcome some demons.

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#99 pigeon
September 24 2009, 11:43AM
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@ EddieEdmonton

go pick up fries off the ground at a Mcdonalds Parking lot like a simple Pigeon. Stop Ruining what is the best blogsite on the net with your comments and spelling of a 4th grader

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#100 Quicksilver ballet
September 24 2009, 11:47AM
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Some of these players are just so friggen stoopid. There isn't a better way to communicate with your coaches than to earn their respect during a game. Too many Oilers waiting for something to happen instead of making something happen.

Same SHIP....different year.

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