GDB minus-2: It's crunch time

Jason Gregor
September 24 2009 02:20PM

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Tonight is the last chance for players to impress the coaches, and when you look at tonight’s roster it is pretty clear which players are on the bubble.

Nilsson — Brule — Stone MacIntyre — Reddox — Stortini Moreau — Gagner — Cogliano Penner — Schremp — Eberle

Grebeshkov — Staios Chorney — Gilbert Smid — Visnovsky

Deslauriers and Dubnyk

Stone, Brule, Nilsson, Reddox, MacIntyre, Schremp and Eberle are all on the bubble. And so is Pouliot, but he is out with a slight muscle pull.

Quinn hinted today that if Pouliot and Pisani don’t get into Sunday’s game, they might get veteran status and be on the 23 man roster. Pisani is shooting to play on Sunday so we’ll wait and see.

It sounds like Quinn is leaning towards moving Cogliano to the wing and will keep Gagner and either Comrie or O'Sullivan and Horcoff as the other top three centres.

It is also interesting to look at the D-pairings for tonight. I don’t think it is a guarantee that the top four will consist of 44, 71, 77 and 37. Renney wants his defense to be more aggressive, especially at the blueline. But they can only stand up the opposing forwards if the Oiler forwards are backchecking.

The story so far...

Through six pre-season games the forwards and D-men haven’t been that cohesive yet. Quinn said it was almost like they were playing as two separate units, and there was too much space between them, especially in the neutral zone.

I’m curious how long it will take for those who ripped MacTavish for sucking the offence out of young Oilers to say the same about Quinn.

Quinn is adamant that this team will be better defensively before they work on their offence. Doesn’t that sound a lot like MacTavish? The difference is that this coaching staff has a different approach in how they are selling that message.

According to the players, the coaches have consistently relayed the same messages every day. Last year, after many games MacTavish and the media and the fans complained the team wasn’t physical enough.

But a player, who agreed they weren’t, said it was never a message the coaching staff hammered home every day. As strange as it sounds, if a coaching staff isn’t constantly focusing and reminding players how they should play, then the players won’t play that way.

The messages to the players have been clearer and right now they are being hammered home on a daily basis, and I’d expect that to continue all season. The players who buy in will play, and those who don’t won’t play and ultimately won’t be here very long.

This power struggle will be won by the coaching staff, and for some veterans and young players, they'd better realize that quickly.

The best fight I saw today

Who would have thought the best fight of the pre-season would have occurred at practice, and at Eskimo practice?

After leaving Rexall I went to watch the Eskimos practice and I witnessed the most one-sided football tilt I’ve seen in a long time.

During scrimmage, O-lineman Aaron Fiacconi and D-lineman Xzavie Jackson got into it. They threw some punches and then Fiacconi showed his hockey background: he ripped off Jackson’s helmet, pulled his head down and fed him two huge uppercuts, the second one dropped Jackson.

Jackson picked himself up off the turf and stormed off to the sidelines. Meanwhile Fiacconi went back to the huddle and got ready for the next play. Not one player said anything to Jackson. He was on the far sidelines, and then he proceeded to throw off his gloves, take off his practice jersey and walked towards the north end zone of Clark field. He walked across the endzone and towards the gate. Only receiver Maurice Mann came over to try and get him to not leave practice. Jackson barked something to him, and then proceeded to continue walking towards the dumpsters.

Thirty seconds later he returned with a shovel that he had found. He was slowly walking back towards the field when trainer TD Forss and Danny Maciocia stopped to talk to him. Jackson was visibly upset, and after some talking he left towards the locker room with Forss.

His left eye was swollen shut and had a cut on it. The strangest part for me wasn’t that he found a shovel and contemplated going WWE on someone, but that not one of his defensive teammates did anything on the field, or said anything to him on the sidelines.

Their silence told me he isn’t that respected in the locker room and I can’t see him sticking around very long. Rarely is a football fight more entertaining than a hockey fight.

***UPDATE***

I got some confirmation that the Oilers and Predators are kicking each other tires. Nilsson would seem like an obvious choice, but I've heard whispers about Pouliot and Pisani as well. Nashville has lots of cap space if they want to acquire either Pisani or Nilsson.

I know the Oilers have lots of D-men, but would Hamhuis be of interest to them? We'll see.

It sounds like there might be some interesting names across the NHL that might land on waivers as early this weekend.

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#301 quicksilver ballet
September 24 2009, 10:41PM
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FIRE QUINN!

He's lost the room already.lol

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#302 MattL
September 24 2009, 10:44PM
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Also, Schremp = Gone. Eberle = Great player. For next year. Stone = First call-up for 3/4th line. Reddox = Played himself on to the team tonight, or at least a spot in the press box. He's still just getting better, nice hands, and Capt. Hustle.

And this game really made be think that Staios and Moreau are not good enough leaders for this team. You can trade Steady Steve, but you can't trade Moreau unless you get someone like him, but younger and smarter.

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#303 Jimmy
September 24 2009, 10:44PM
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@ MattL:

I had Pisani as my goat. Can I still rip on him?

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#304 MattL
September 24 2009, 10:46PM
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@ Jimmy:

I'll have to check the rule book that I just made up.

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#305 Gunner
September 24 2009, 10:46PM
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@ MattL: If I agree with you (Moreau/Staois) does that make me a sheep?

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#306 Archaeologuy
September 24 2009, 10:49PM
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MattL wrote:

I hate all the sheep who have deemed Pisani to be the worst player ever, all because Matty wrote an article about him. I didn’t hear ANYBODY calling for Pisani’s head before the story, he was almost a lock on everyone’s third or fourth line. Try thinking for yourselves, rejects. The bandwagon will call you when they need you.

Yeah, you keep the 2 million dollar 4th liner who spends more time injured than he does healthy. He isnt an offensive guy, he isnt a physical guy, he isnt an energy guy. He kills penalties and is defensively responsible. Big woop. He hasnt earned his spot. At best he's just delaying the inevitable because he's hurt. He isnt part of the present or the future of the team. I'm sorry that it hurts your feelings that the hero of 06 isnt the same player he once was for 20 games.

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#307 MattL
September 24 2009, 10:50PM
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@ Gunner:

No, that one's just obvious.

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#308 RossCreek
September 24 2009, 10:54PM
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@ Archaeologuy: I agree with your take. You may be selling Pisani a tad short (although that remains to be seen). But if you're gettin rid of him, you gotta add another vet to replace him (Chimera). If that guy happens to be a guy that can also win faceoffs too, all the better. Pie @ half price may be more reasonable, but the more cap room they free up now, the more they have available later in the season.

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#309 RossCreek
September 24 2009, 10:55PM
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If you want to remove Moreau, you HAVE to add a physical veteran to replace him.

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#310 MattL
September 24 2009, 10:56PM
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@ Archaeologuy:

I don't think you read the last sentence.

MattL wrote:

He’ll be fine, although for what he’s making, I’d take the cap space for sure. But don’t tell me your team is better with a Stone, or a Schremp.

It's just annoying in this town how the whipping boys are picked sometimes. Stauffer railed on MacT's inability to coach offense, and it's all you heard until he got fired. Now Matty writes an article about Pisani, and all you hear is what a waste of skin he is.

I'm just saying, Pisani is better than most of the guys below him, but I also wouldn't be sad to see his contract off the books this year.

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#311 ShaunDoe
September 24 2009, 11:11PM
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RossCreek wrote:

@ Archaeologuy: I agree with your take. You may be selling Pisani a tad short (although that remains to be seen). But if you’re gettin rid of him, you gotta add another vet to replace him (Chimera). If that guy happens to be a guy that can also win faceoffs too, all the better. Pie @ half price may be more reasonable, but the more cap room they free up now, the more they have available later in the season.

Alright so are you marrying Chimera's sister or do you owe him some dough? I havn"t seen a guy back another dude this much since brokeback mountain (hiyo!). But honestly I can't say I disagree with you. We do need a veteran presence in the dot other than Horcs. Although Brule has shown flashes of brilliance that may take some pressure of Shawn. Second, if Fleury ends up in Abbotsford I will keep a barstool warm for him at the Duke of Dublin, he likes the Irish beer I'll bet... I kid. I'd like to see him play once or twice while he's there.

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#312 Archaeologuy
September 24 2009, 11:14PM
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@ MattL: I understand the sentiment about everyone following the whims of whatever writer, but the fact is that IF everyone outside of Hemsky, Khabibulin, Lubo, and Souray are competing for spots then Pisani has not competed. He has an excuse, but he still hasnt competed.

Would the team be better with Stone? What's the damage if they get worse? The Oilers still dont make the playoffs but select higher in the draft? Or the Oilers save money and have wiggle room to acquire someone who can win faceoffs AND do the things that Pisani did? I dont see a situation where the Oilers even have the possibility to be better with the likes of Moreau, Pisani, and Staios on the team. Same old tired team.

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#313 ShaunDoe
September 24 2009, 11:22PM
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I just don't think being the captain agrees with Moreau. He is moving out there, he is hitting out there but he isn't creating much with his play. Its almost as if he is conflicted with his role on the team, is he a crash and banger or there for racking up points. I think he just needs to simplify his game and let the talent type players do the fancy work. Oh well...

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#314 ShaunDoe
September 24 2009, 11:23PM
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Oh on a side note, has anyone bothered to venture over to TSN.ca and read some of the responses in the post game run down? Some of those oiler fans are real haters and I have to wonder if THebarhasbeensetLOWE has anywhere else to go.

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#315 EddieEdmonton
September 24 2009, 11:24PM
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whast the big deal about stone? he doesnt stand out that much as a positive, does he?

schremp should stay up he just needs time in the pros and more attention from the coaches(positive reenforcement) he looks like he is trying to do all the right things out there

penner is our first LW he will tear it up this year macT and cole ruined him last year comeback player of the year

with no injuries hemsky will make his first all star game and break whiny heatleys 4 goal record in the game

JFJ will send Stortini on waivers JFJ wil do wonders on the forth fans should start purchasing 22 jerseys with J F J on the back

who wont be on the team come starting day, staios or strudwick?

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#316 Chris
September 24 2009, 11:27PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Yeah, you keep the 2 million dollar 4th liner who spends more time injured than he does healthy.

Pisani is a fourth liner?

BTW Did you know that since the lockout, despite colitus, repeated injury, and so on: Pisani has scored an average of only .20 goals/game... (Crappy right?)

But let's remember that Pisani is not playing an offensive role: He plays THIRD line minutes, with other third line players in an evidently thankless role.

Hemsky, on the other hand, is the centerpiece of the Oiler offence. He gobbles up every available minute on the powerplay, and is the GOLDEN BOY in the Oilogosphere with a stunning .25 goals/game average over the same time period.

It's been a tough three years out of the playoffs. It's fun to point fingers. The Oilers lose a lot of games due to epidemic levels of inconsistant play... why all the hate for one of our most consistant performers?

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#317 Ogden Brother
September 24 2009, 11:29PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Pisani out Reddox in Moreau out Stone in Staois out Peckham/Chorney Nilsson out Eberle in ~10 million out less than 4 million in.

Get rid of Stoll/Torres/Reasoner and let the kids play!!

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#318 Chris
September 24 2009, 11:33PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

He kills penalties and is defensively responsible. Big woop. He hasnt earned his spot.

This is one of the most stunning comments I've ever read.

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#319 EddieEdmonton
September 24 2009, 11:34PM
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@ Chris: relax chris lets not call apples oranges here hemsky is way better then pisani could have ever been pisani is useless at 4 a year on the forth when you can have a forth line for that whole amount almost in brule jacques and who ever else pisani is passed his time and i think its time to move on not to say pisani didnt do good for the organization its businesss of what have you done for me lately

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#320 David S
September 24 2009, 11:34PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Pisani out Reddox in Moreau out Stone in Staois out Peckham/Chorney Nilsson out Eberle in ~10 million out less than 4 million in.

Playoffs out. Oilers fan rage in.

Sorry man. My opinion is that playoffs aren't optional this year. All those guys you want are prospects and projects. Only way that happens is if this team is in full rebuild. They might be showing better in pre-season, over a few games where vets are pacing themselves in, but with their lack of experience you'd need half a NHL season before any of those trades would be seriously considered plausible.

BTW - Eberle isn't in this year. Listen to Tambellini's latest set of comments over on the mother site. Maybe he gets a few reward games, but it sounded like Tambo wasn't willing to mess him up like Brule. Besides, he's got how many points this pre-season?

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#321 Archaeologuy
September 24 2009, 11:43PM
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Chris wrote:

Archaeologuy wrote: He kills penalties and is defensively responsible. Big woop. He hasnt earned his spot. This is one of the most stunning comments I’ve ever read.

Stunning in the way that the one thing that has been said more than any other on Oilers Nation this summer has been how cheap and plentiful 3rd and 4th line defensively resposible penalty killers are in the NHL? What is so stunning about not being impressed by a guy who brings exactly the same thing as every other 3rd/4th liner in the league? He's SOOOO unreplaceable as that guy who might do something once ever 2 weeks but is othewise unnoticeable.

Chris wrote:

Pisani is a fourth liner?

You have him in your top 9?! Well, you DID compare him to Hemsky, as if they are even close as players. That comparison was the most stunning thing Ive seen.

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#322 Chris
September 24 2009, 11:45PM
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@ EddieEdmonton:

Looking at the lineup as it stands: Pisani is a critical player.

a)Pisani has size and experience. (Something the Oilers are lacking)

b)Pisani is one of the last holdovers from a time when the Oilers could still kill penalties. (Oilers have a brutal PK because Lowe already shipped out too many of our role players)

c)Pisani rarely (if ever) loses battles along the boards. (Again... something the team is severely lacking)

A healthy Pisani is EXACTLY what this team need more of. If Pisani is moved, a player or two cut from the same cloth are needed in return. Other than the diminutive Reddox, the Oilers have nobody to play his role... and IMO Reddox is not on par with Pisani yet.

Staios is less important, and more easily replaced.

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#323 David S
September 24 2009, 11:47PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Would the team be better with Stone? What’s the damage if they get worse?

The sad part is, I think you're serious.

As far as I'm concerned, the Oilers should ice the best team they can. That's called being competitive. I'd rather see them crash and burn fighting all the way than have a bunch of Stones leading us to night after night of inglorious defeats because half their players have little or no NHL experience. Been through enough of that last year.

Winning teams don't add whacks of rookies so fans can drool and pontificate over who's gonna be the next 15 goal scorer in the 2012 season.

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#324 EddieEdmonton
September 24 2009, 11:50PM
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@ Chris:

a)expirience sure, size is nothing if you cant bring it every night

b) he didnt ship to many role players the ones he kept let him down pisani and moreau were gone for a while on injuries

c)we are lacking scoring abilities anyone can kick a puck along the boards

he wont get any healthier with age

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#325 Chris
September 24 2009, 11:51PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

That comparison was the most stunning thing Ive seen.

I agree.

It is stunning that Hemsky is only outscoring Pisani by an average of .05 goals/game...

....thats like four or five goals a season...

It clear you cheer for the roles on a team, and not how well individual players fill their roles.

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#326 Chris
September 24 2009, 11:55PM
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EddieEdmonton wrote:

c)we are lacking scoring abilities anyone can kick a puck along the boards

Really? Anyone can do it? Maybe we should sign some of those guys because I'm tired of watching the Oilers get dominated physically almost every game...

~or maybe we should replace Pisani with another small skilled forward because "we are lacking scoring abilities"~

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#327 Archaeologuy
September 24 2009, 11:56PM
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David S wrote:

Playoffs out. Oilers fan rage in.

Ok, ok, ok, Instead of that, the Oilers KEEP those guys...and still miss the playoffs. If those guys are the diffeence between getting to the playoffs or not they wouldnt be near the bubble at all. They have played terrible or not at all, except Nilsson (he hasnt been THAT bad) and are a part of the leadership core for the most heartless Oiler team in the history of the Oilers.

Why do the Oilers need to fill fringe positions like 7th Dman (Staios) or 13th forward (Pisani/Moreau) with Vets? Two Vets on the top line and established NHLers on the 2nd and 3rd line (see Comrie, O'Sullivan, Penner, Gags, and Cogs all in their 3rd or more season) The kids are young, but they arent rookies anymore. Eventually the team needs to move on, why keep a vet around if a younger guy can bring everything the vet can for cheaper?

No one can complain about the Oilers being handcuffed by the Cap if they dont want to see the fat get trimmed ever.

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#328 EddieEdmonton
September 24 2009, 11:58PM
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@ Chris: Pisani has to go to bed now, Chris. please, get off his penis! give me a.............. break no one is buying your pisani stock go sell it elsewheres, and if you find a buyes let steve and kevin know thanx

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#329 Desperandum
September 24 2009, 11:58PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

He kills penalties and is defensively responsible. Big woop

Name another forward not named Horcoff that you can say this about. Pisani has managed to play intelligent, mistake-free hockey while hemorrhaging internally. He's now healthy, bulked up, and unduplicated on the roster. Reddox is too small and Stone is far too slow. Suggesting that he's expendable is just asinine.

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#330 Ogden Brother
September 24 2009, 11:59PM
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David S wrote:

Archaeologuy wrote: Pisani out Reddox in Moreau out Stone in Staois out Peckham/Chorney Nilsson out Eberle in ~10 million out less than 4 million in. Playoffs out. Oilers fan rage in. Sorry man. My opinion is that playoffs aren’t optional this year. All those guys you want are prospects and projects. Only way that happens is if this team is in full rebuild. They might be showing better in pre-season, over a few games where vets are pacing themselves in, but with their lack of experience you’d need half a NHL season before any of those trades would be seriously considered plausible. BTW – Eberle isn’t in this year. Listen to Tambellini’s latest set of comments over on the mother site. Maybe he gets a few reward games, but it sounded like Tambo wasn’t willing to mess him up like Brule. Besides, he’s got how many points this pre-season?

~None of that matters, what's important is icing the cheapest possibly team~

Theirs a (large) fraction of fans that would spin summersaults if they logged onto cap geeks in the morning and seen the projected Oiler cap hit at 46 million instead of 56 million...regardless of who would be filling those jersey's.

People don't realize the time for these little money games is over, their is no reason to have 3/4/5 million in cap space at this time. Now is the time to ice the most competitive team you can for under 56 million.

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#331 Chris
September 25 2009, 12:01AM
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@ EddieEdmonton:

Troll.

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#332 Ogden Brother
September 25 2009, 12:02AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

David S wrote: Playoffs out. Oilers fan rage in. Ok, ok, ok, Instead of that, the Oilers KEEP those guys…and still miss the playoffs. If those guys are the diffeence between getting to the playoffs or not they wouldnt be near the bubble at all.

Who says they are near the bubble? Didn't Quinn just talk about Pisani and "vetran status"

So when all/most of those guys are on the roster Oct 3, is Quinn an idiot? Or do people admit they give the team a better chance to win then 22 year old AHL guys?

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#333 RossCreek
September 25 2009, 12:03AM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

their is no reason to have 3/4/5 million in cap space at this time

That is false. If you have 3 mil in cap space now, come Jan/Feb, you have the space to add 6 mil. May come in handy.

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#334 Archaeologuy
September 25 2009, 12:05AM
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David S wrote:

The sad part is, I think you’re serious. As far as I’m concerned, the Oilers should ice the best team they can

And I'm saying, as i have since last season, that the team is better without some of these charity case vets. I dont think the team IS better with guys like Moreau, especially if to keep those guys you need to send away younger guys who have played better.

Chris wrote:

It is stunning that Hemsky is only outscoring Pisani by an average of .05 goals/game…

I didnt realize that assists werent a part of scoring anymore. I'll send the text to Wayne Gretzky and let him know that all those points he got are no longer valid.

Chris wrote:

It clear you cheer for the roles on a team, and not how well individual players fill their roles.

What role does Moreau play and how well is he doing it? What role is Staios playing and how well is he doing it? What role is Pisani playing and how well is he doing it? Are they doing their jobs SOOO well that its impossible to think that they can be replaced? Please. Some perspective would be wonderful.

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#335 Chris
September 25 2009, 12:06AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

why keep a vet around if a younger guy can bring everything the vet can for cheaper?

Experince. Presence. Strength. Stability. Vetrans tip thier cabbie.

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#336 Archaeologuy
September 25 2009, 12:07AM
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Desperandum wrote:

Reddox is too small and Stone is far too slow. Suggesting that he’s expendable is just asinine.

Too small to replace Pisani and his super physical play? Do we watch the same team?

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#337 Ogden Brother
September 25 2009, 12:07AM
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RossCreek wrote:

Ogden Brother wrote: their is no reason to have 3/4/5 million in cap space at this time That is false. If you have 3 mil in cap space now, come Jan/Feb, you have the space to add 6 mil. May come in handy.

95% of the trades happen within a couple days of TDD day, your going to get roughly 4X's "leverage" on your cap dollars. Go in with 1.5 in room and you can add almost any player that would concievable be available at the deadline.

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#338 Archaeologuy
September 25 2009, 12:08AM
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Chris wrote:

Vetrans tip thier cabbie.

LMAO. I tip my hat to that comment. Well played.

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#339 Ogden Brother
September 25 2009, 12:10AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

David S wrote: The sad part is, I think you’re serious. As far as I’m concerned, the Oilers should ice the best team they can And I’m saying, as i have since last season, that the team is better without some of these charity case vets. I dont think the team IS better with guys like Moreau, especially if to keep those guys you need to send away younger guys who have played better. .

Want to be if Quinn agrees/disagrees?

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#340 David S
September 25 2009, 12:10AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

why keep a vet around if a younger guy can bring everything the vet can for cheaper?

Absolutely correct. Problem is, you're making gi-normous judgment calls based on a few exhibition games. In a normal pro team, prospects have to be STELLAR to break in. Not just OK. Because everybody knows that it takes more than a few times at bat before the true gauge of an athlete can be made.

Hey, I don't doubt we have some major problems, but subbing in a bunch of green punks isn't going to make it any better. The way to do it is to be selective and let the rest mature somewhere where they aren't going to cost us points.

On the other hand, maybe you're infatuated with young, inexperienced players with little or no NHL experience. I hear the Oil KIngs have lots of tickets left.

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#341 RossCreek
September 25 2009, 12:11AM
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@ Chris: @ Archaeologuy: There's nothing wrong with axing the vets mentioned. But you gotta replace them with some other vets (not so much Staios). Find a team in a similar situation. Swap them a vet for a vet. Swap Schremp for some other underachieving prospect elsewhere. Give em a change of scenery, roll the dice, close your eyes and see who, if anyone, wins the trade.

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#342 Archaeologuy
September 25 2009, 12:11AM
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@ RossCreek: That debate about Cap space is hopeless. Apparently the idea of icing cheaper options for bit players so that the team can afford to actually fix the problems/holes is too foreign to consider.

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#343 Ogden Brother
September 25 2009, 12:11AM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

Archaeologuy wrote: David S wrote: The sad part is, I think you’re serious. As far as I’m concerned, the Oilers should ice the best team they can And I’m saying, as i have since last season, that the team is better without some of these charity case vets. I dont think the team IS better with guys like Moreau, especially if to keep those guys you need to send away younger guys who have played better. . Want to be if Quinn agrees/disagrees?

*Want to bet*

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#344 Ogden Brother
September 25 2009, 12:13AM
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RossCreek wrote:

@ Chris: @ Archaeologuy: There’s nothing wrong with axing the vets mentioned. But you gotta replace them with some other vets (not so much Staios). Find a team in a similar situation. Swap them a vet for a vet. Swap Schremp for some other underachieving prospect elsewhere. Give em a change of scenery, roll the dice, close your eyes and see who, if anyone, wins the trade.

Bingo, if Moreau/Pie and to a lesser extent Staios leave, their 26-29 year old copy's need to arrive.

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#345 Ogden Brother
September 25 2009, 12:14AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

@ RossCreek: That debate about Cap space is hopeless. Apparently the idea of icing cheaper options for bit players so that the team can afford to actually fix the problems/holes is too foreign to consider.

It's called reality, 30 million in cap space isn't going to make the 09/10 Oilers better.

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#346 Porter
September 25 2009, 12:15AM
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EddieEdmonton wrote:

@ Chris: Pisani has to go to bed now, Chris. please, get off his penis! give me a………….. break no one is buying your pisani stock go sell it elsewheres, and if you find a buyes let steve and kevin know thanx

You are nuts for wanting to get rid of Pisani. Moreau should go before him. Pisani kills penalties, wins battles, and chips in offensively. Who replaces him? Who takes those tough minutes?

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#347 EddieEdmonton
September 25 2009, 12:17AM
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@ Porter: brule jacques sulllivan comrie cogliano

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#348 Chris
September 25 2009, 12:17AM
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@ Archaeologuy:

You should read lowetide. He has a good handle on the guys in the system, is an optimist, and is fair. Peckham is nearly ready to replace Staios... so adios! As for the others: there really aren't any young guys in the system who can replace Moreau or Pisani yet... At least not without a big drop-off. The Oiler roster is marginal at best, we can't afford many drop-offs.

Do I think Moreau and Pisani are the best players in the NHL? Obviously not. Do I think they are the best guys we have under contract now to help the Oilers win games? Unfortunately, Yes..

If either are traded, I'll evaluate the deal based on its own merits... But I will not agree that replacing Pisani with Stone, or dumping Moreau to give Eberle a shot, or any of the other ludicrous suggestions I've been reading all night long: will actually improve the roster. It's easy to fall in love with the new guys.

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#349 Desperandum
September 25 2009, 12:19AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Too small to replace Pisani and his super physical play? Do we watch the same team?

Come on now. Who do you think wins the corner battle between these two? Pisani doesn't punish guys physically, but he also doesn't get plain muscled off the puck. Reddox plays without fear, but his strength and his positional play just aren't comparable.

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#350 Ogden Brother
September 25 2009, 12:19AM
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Chris wrote:

It’s easy to fall in love with the new guys.

And that basically wraps it up, this endless infatuation that the unknown must be better then the known.

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