Back to square one: just not in the standings

Robin Brownlee
January 11 2010 03:24PM

The Edmonton Oilers obviously don't get a do-over on the first 44 games they played this season, but they will approach their final 38 games as a second season and a new start after last weekend's mini-camp.

At least that was the spin, and probably the most sensible approach, at Rexall Place today as coach Pat Quinn and the Oilers looked ahead instead of back. With a record of 16-23-5 for 37 points, it only makes sense.

"We are on the journey and the journey hasn't gone the way we planned," understated Quinn. "You can't forget that part of it because there's a bit of a mountain in front of us as far as gathering points and trying to achieve the goals we started out with.

"We'll be re-establishing our goals. We're going to play by the old maxim, one shift, one period and we'll see if we get where we're doing little things well and maybe big things will happen that are good big things."

While many fans are getting behind the push for the Dive For Five, Quinn's focus, as you would expect, is elsewhere.

"You have to scrape yourself up and be in the fray," Quinn said. "That's what we have to do. It's challenging ourselves. Now, we may still not get to the results we want, but we have to continue to be better."

With a two-day golf junket cancelled in favour of the mini-camp, players put the best possible shine on things.

"They were good," Dustin Penner said of workouts Friday and Saturday. "It kind of re-set the computers.

"We spent two, six-hour days at the rink, with an hour of video each day, chalk talk on the board. I think it was beneficial. You would be hard-pressed to find anybody who would say it wasn't."

Work smarter not harder

If hard work on its own was the answer, Shawn Horcoff would be an 80-point player and the darling of Oilers fans no matter how much money he's taking home every two weeks.

Obviously, it's not that simple. Quinn talked about "hard work" in the context of the weekend and what he hopes the benefits wills be.

"Emotion is a big part of this game," he said. You can have the negative ones that crop up where you're frustrated because nothing good's going for you. "So maybe the answer is, 'I'll try harder.'

"Well, thinking that you're trying harder, sometimes it increases your frustration because it's not effort that you needed. You might have needed smarts or you might have needed courage or you might have needed some of the other things that are necessary for hockey players to be successful.

"There is that increasing level of frustration that gets people to give up a little bit on themselves. That's the biggest fight you have as far as both the coaches and the players in that room.

"The challenge is to stay on the task here because it is about them. It is individual. They're the ones who want to be good hockey players. They have to challenge themselves daily. To push that."

This and that

-- Having missed all the fun with Sheldon Souray Friday, one television reporter who shall remain unnamed went looking for more of the same NTC talk from Lubomir Visnovsky. He lobbed all sorts of grenades Visnovsky's way with a barrage of loaded questions, but got no sniff.

On the positive side, Visnovsky took another twirl on his twisted ankle today and should be a go against Nashville. That'll leave the Oilers with seven blueliners to choose from for the first time in awhile.

-- Aside from doing a lot of 4-on-4 work early in practice, the Oilers worked a lot on their 17th-ranked power play, with two full units working the drills.

One unit had Gilbert Brule with Sam Gagner and Patrick O'Sullivan up front with Denis Grebeshkov and Visnovsky on the points. The other fivesome was Robert Nilsson, Horcoff, Penner, Tom Gilbert and Souray. Neither one did a lot to impress the coach.

-- Marc Pouliot's on-again, off-again comeback from pubitis was on again today as he skated the full practice without any apparent ill effects. I'm guessing he's a week or 10 days and at least a couple of games in the AHL for conditioning from returning.

-- Mike Comrie took the ice with skating coach Steve Serdachny after practice today. No firm word on a return, but you'd have to think that Comrie will be in line for an AHL conditioning stint when he gets healthy.

-- Quinn has liked Andrew Cogliano's effort and compete level, if not his results offensively, lately and suggested he might look at getting him more ice time in the next little while.

-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Wednesday and Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on TEAM 1260.

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A sports writer since 1983, including stints at The Edmonton Journal and The Sun 1989-2007, I happily co-host the Jason Gregor Show on TSN 1260 twice a week and write when so inclined. Have the best damn lawn on the internet. Most important, I am Sam's dad. Follow me on Twitter at Robin_Brownlee. Or don't.
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#52 BUCK75
January 12 2010, 07:35AM
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I have no problems moving any player that helps us i the next couple of seasons or maybe even this one. Cogliano has shown he can score some goals in the past, but he needs the minutes to score. If he isn't going to get them here...

I read Dan Barnes article on Saturday & it felt kind of eerie. I am glad I am not the only person in Oil Country finding other things to do with my time when the Oilers are playing. The fans have figured out where this team is going already & is waiting for the organization to tell us the obvious.

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#53 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 12 2010, 08:07AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

If the Pats miss the playoffs and that looks likely today, then Eberle's last game is March 13th v. Brandon. That means he could play 14 games with the Oilers. If he plays ten he would lose one year of eligibility, so I'd suspect you will see him play nine.

He had nine points in nine games with Springfield last year, so I don't see the point of playing him in the AHL again at the end of the season.

Let him see what the NHL game is about, and then he can work on whatever element he feels he needs to improve on in the summer.

@ARCHAEOLOGUY

AHL. He'll be here soon enough, let him play against pros with less chance of killing his confidence.

You won't kill his confidence because if he struggles he will have all summer to feel good about himself. Let him test himself against the best.

This is kinda what I was thinking as I left yesterday. Play nine out of fourteen games with the Oilers and allow him to practice with the big club and try gather as much info as possible.

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#54 Jmask5
January 12 2010, 08:19AM
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The Oiler most Definatley need to rebuild. The length of the rebuild will depend on how Omark, Eberle and MPS work out in the NHL and whether we get Hall or not. Some teams can turn it around pretty quickly like Colorado magically did this past year, but sometimes it takes a bit longer like Chicago or LA. Let's hope its somewhere in the middle since the Oilers have been in a half assed rebuild for the past 4 years.

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#55 DangerMan
January 12 2010, 08:20AM
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I agree with the sentiment about Eberle, the sooner we can get Eberle into NHL games, the better off he will be. Besides the end of the year plans to play out like exhibition games, at least from the Oilers standpoint. Might as well get him ready and face the pros.

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#56 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 12 2010, 08:29AM
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Sandra wrote:

Maybe the oilers can add some excitement. We need a tough guy.

both Flames and Avs are fighting for 1st place.Both have a tough guy. both get thier teams going.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15_qVYyIyDE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3JFZ2xtv4U&feature=related

... we just had one...remember.... we weren't fighting for 1st with one...

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#57 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 12 2010, 08:31AM
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Shaun Doe wrote:

Hey Gregor, in response to your position on Eberle playing 9 games with the Oil at seasons end: Would it make more sense for Eberle to play around 5 games to get a feel for the NHL and pinpoint his weaknesses as you said. That way next season he could have another 4 game audition to see if he has improved? I just figured that way we could see what he has to offer in both seasons without chipping into his contract, instead of just gambling on the chance that he improved as expected through the summer. Or would you think that seeing how he comes into training camp and pre-season would be enough let them know.

Decent plan, you'd hate to give him 9 this year. Start him next year and then figure 4-5 games in that he should be in the A.

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#58 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 12 2010, 08:31AM
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@Jmask5

This is a key statement. Look at TB and the Isles, they have had top picks in recent drafts but are still in the rebuild process.

It just seems that too many people think that adding Hall along with all our other prospects will turn us around quickly. It may, but it may not.

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#59 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 12 2010, 08:34AM
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@OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

Why?You can't tell me with where this team is going that he isn't going to get 9 games next year anyways. Even if Eberle starts next year in the minors, I'm pretty sure he'll end up with 9+ by season end.

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#60 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 12 2010, 08:46AM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Why?You can't tell me with where this team is going that he isn't going to get 9 games next year anyways. Even if Eberle starts next year in the minors, I'm pretty sure he'll end up with 9+ by season end.

In my mind you don't want to go into next year with no choice but to keep him on the big team. What if he plays 9 this year, and then 5 games into next year he looks completely out of place.

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#61 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 12 2010, 08:47AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

In my mind you don't want to go into next year with no choice but to keep him on the big team. What if he plays 9 this year, and then 5 games into next year he looks completely out of place.

Why do you have no choice next year?

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#62 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 12 2010, 08:49AM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Why do you have no choice next year?

Well I guess you could still send him down, but you'd burn a year of his rookie contract.

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#63 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 12 2010, 08:51AM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Why?You can't tell me with where this team is going that he isn't going to get 9 games next year anyways. Even if Eberle starts next year in the minors, I'm pretty sure he'll end up with 9+ by season end.

Hall alone wouldn't, but (on paper anyways) a healthy roster + 3-4 proper roll players in the prime of their career should put us in solid playoff contention. (what should have been done this summer).

In my mind, the biggest question for the next 2-3 years is goalteding (and more specifically health)

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#64 Darren
January 12 2010, 08:56AM
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I feel the same way, I want to use the 9 games this year for Eberle, to help him really be ready for next year. We are gonna NEED him in our line-up next year. With all the shaping and re-tooling our roster will do to get ready for the new players next year it will be done with a certain 'act of faith' feel to it as Eberle, MPS and some others may be expected to make the roster.

I know that people expected that last year and it didn't happen, but that was the first year of this coaching staff in this organization. A new coaching staff often needs takes a full year evaluating the players that they never worked with previously. Then, once they are comfortable with the assets they have they will be ready to make the moves to improve the team.

It may well turn out that Eberle, MPS, et al aren't ready yet next year, but I believe that they will be given every chance to make this team, and learn while playing on this team. A rebuild rarely takes one season only so letting them learn up with the big club, even if we're not winning is not so bad, IMO.

:)

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#65 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 12 2010, 08:57AM
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Rumor flying around we are dealing Cogliano for Lee, O'Brien and a 2nd. Not sure how legit the source is but nonetheless there is a non-eklund rumor.

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#66 RossCreekNation
January 12 2010, 09:09AM
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Shaun Doe wrote:

Hey Gregor, in response to your position on Eberle playing 9 games with the Oil at seasons end: Would it make more sense for Eberle to play around 5 games to get a feel for the NHL and pinpoint his weaknesses as you said. That way next season he could have another 4 game audition to see if he has improved? I just figured that way we could see what he has to offer in both seasons without chipping into his contract, instead of just gambling on the chance that he improved as expected through the summer. Or would you think that seeing how he comes into training camp and pre-season would be enough let them know.

I never really thought of it being this way. I just assumed he'd be able to play 9 games again next year. But now that you mention this, I guess it probably doesn't make sense that he could. Does it?

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#67 RossCreekNation
January 12 2010, 09:19AM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Rumor flying around we are dealing Cogliano for Lee, O'Brien and a 2nd. Not sure how legit the source is but nonetheless there is a non-eklund rumor.

From Bruce Garrioch...

The only teams actively selling — with the deadline set for March 3 — are the Oilers and Hurricanes. It’s not known if there are any hard feelings with the Oilers after the Dany Heatley fiasco last summer, but it seems doubtful there would be. The names being bandied about from Edmonton are centres Andrew Cogliano (4 goals and 6 assists in 44 games) and Robert Nilsson (6 goals and 8 assists in 29 games) and winger Ethan Moreau (4 goals and 4 assists in 43 games). All are affordable, but it would depend on what the Oilers want in return.

http://www.ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/2010/01/11/12425956.html

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#68 Jason Gregor
January 12 2010, 09:36AM
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Boys,

Why are you worried about playing five games next year? Whether he plays in the NHL or the AHL his contract starts. If he plays more than ten this year, that counts as season, that is why it makes sense to play less than ten this year.

Next year doesn't matter because he will either play in the NHL or the AHL so it will count as the first year of his contract.

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#69 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 12 2010, 09:37AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

From Bruce Garrioch...

The only teams actively selling — with the deadline set for March 3 — are the Oilers and Hurricanes. It’s not known if there are any hard feelings with the Oilers after the Dany Heatley fiasco last summer, but it seems doubtful there would be. The names being bandied about from Edmonton are centres Andrew Cogliano (4 goals and 6 assists in 44 games) and Robert Nilsson (6 goals and 8 assists in 29 games) and winger Ethan Moreau (4 goals and 4 assists in 43 games). All are affordable, but it would depend on what the Oilers want in return.

http://www.ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/2010/01/11/12425956.html

Garrioch is Ek's twin brother to me, but my rumor could be Ek and Garrioch triplet. I just don't know. Although the trade seems like a legit trade, was kinda wondering what people thought.

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#70 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 12 2010, 09:39AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Boys,

Why are you worried about playing five games next year? Whether he plays in the NHL or the AHL his contract starts. If he plays more than ten this year, that counts as season, that is why it makes sense to play less than ten this year.

Next year doesn't matter because he will either play in the NHL or the AHL so it will count as the first year of his contract.

"Next year doesn't matter because he will either play in the NHL or the AHL so it will count as the first year of his contract."

Ah, didn't realize that. Thanks for clarifying.

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#71 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 12 2010, 09:39AM
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@Jason Gregor

That's kinda what I thought, but wasn't sure what others really meant.

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#72 roughneck
January 12 2010, 09:44AM
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@Darren

the problem with letting them learn on the job is that it burns up the cheap entry level deal and you can end up with an unproven entity standing in the "i want a raise" line. Making the same mistake repeatedly is however the modus operandi of the recent Oilers..... so your scenario is probably bankable....... sadly. I am very curious to see what the Oilers are going to pay for Sam Gagners "upside".

Anyone want to throw out a number/terms. Less than Nilsson? ha!

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#73 Jmask5
January 12 2010, 09:44AM
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Trading Cogliano would be a mistake considering he has some of the worst linemates in the NHL.

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#74 RossCreekNation
January 12 2010, 09:45AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Boys,

Why are you worried about playing five games next year? Whether he plays in the NHL or the AHL his contract starts. If he plays more than ten this year, that counts as season, that is why it makes sense to play less than ten this year.

Next year doesn't matter because he will either play in the NHL or the AHL so it will count as the first year of his contract.

Duh! All of us who failed to realize and state that are hereby banned for five minutes.

(My excuse is I've been up since 4:00 pm last night. Maybe its time for bed.)

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#75 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 12 2010, 09:54AM
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Jmask5 wrote:

Trading Cogliano would be a mistake considering he has some of the worst linemates in the NHL.

That's the thing that scares me, but with that being said why is it that no matter who the coach is Cogs ends up in the same spot.

We need to get rid of some smaller guys and get bigger. Here is one way to do that.

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#76 RossCreekNation
January 12 2010, 09:58AM
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roughneck wrote:

the problem with letting them learn on the job is that it burns up the cheap entry level deal and you can end up with an unproven entity standing in the "i want a raise" line. Making the same mistake repeatedly is however the modus operandi of the recent Oilers..... so your scenario is probably bankable....... sadly. I am very curious to see what the Oilers are going to pay for Sam Gagners "upside".

Anyone want to throw out a number/terms. Less than Nilsson? ha!

I dunno... 3 years @ 2.4 - 2.75 per.

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#77 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 12 2010, 10:10AM
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roughneck wrote:

the problem with letting them learn on the job is that it burns up the cheap entry level deal and you can end up with an unproven entity standing in the "i want a raise" line. Making the same mistake repeatedly is however the modus operandi of the recent Oilers..... so your scenario is probably bankable....... sadly. I am very curious to see what the Oilers are going to pay for Sam Gagners "upside".

Anyone want to throw out a number/terms. Less than Nilsson? ha!

I'm hoping between 2.25 - 2.5 expiring with one year left as an RFA.

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#78 Chris.
January 12 2010, 10:43AM
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Cogliano for Jim O'Brien, and Brian Lee, AND a second round pick? If this is at all possible then Tambellini should do it and do it now.

Let's set aside our Oiler goggle love for the slumping young Cogliano... We're talking about trading away one of the smurfs for a couple of monsters. Jim O'Brien is a 6'2" first round draft pick who plays center. Brian Lee (defence)is at least 6'3" and was taken in the top 10 of the 2005 draft... It's like trading the 25th overall pick for the 9th, the 29th, and a second rounder... I realize that O'Brien and Lee have yet to make much of an impact in the NHL; but have you seen Cogliano's game lately? This is the kind of trade that makes sence if you are moving toward a total rebuild. Also, with Comrie and Pouliot nearly ready to go someone has to be the odd man out....

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#79 Archaeologuy
January 12 2010, 10:54AM
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That does seem like quite the payout for Cogs. I wont believe that Tambellini is capable of making a good trade until the day it happens though.

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#80 RossCreekNation
January 12 2010, 11:01AM
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twitter.com/dantencer...

Re: internet rumour...Cogliano has just hit the ice for morning skate.
about 1 hour ago

Oilers management say no deal has been made...
12 minutes ago

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#81 Chris.
January 12 2010, 11:01AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

That does seem like quite the payout for Cogs. I wont believe that Tambellini is capable of making a good trade until the day it happens though.

X2.

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#82 Chris.
January 12 2010, 11:04AM
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@RossCreekNation

Murray came to his sences? That would have to be considered a lopsided deal... unless Cogliano was on pace for a 25 goal season and winning 45% of his faceoffs.

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#83 RossCreekNation
January 12 2010, 11:16AM
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@Chris.

Not sold on the Ottawa players. I think Lee could still turn out, but O'Brien seems like a project to me. He's rated as Ottawa's 6th best prospect and Lee hasn't been able to crack their lineup yet even though they have a need for a puck-moving defenseman. Meh, not sure 'bout this one. Admittedly, I know little about O'Brien, so who knows.

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#84 MattL
January 12 2010, 11:17AM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Rumor flying around we are dealing Cogliano for Lee, O'Brien and a 2nd. Not sure how legit the source is but nonetheless there is a non-eklund rumor.

You gotta watch out for those flying rumours, if you look up at them too much you might get rumour-crap all over your face. Best to wear a hat and ignore the flying rumours.

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#85 Chris.
January 12 2010, 11:17AM
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I sure wish I knew how much truth there was to that rumor... If I were Katz, and if I knew Murray had made such an offer to Tambellini, and he was dithering the deal away wanting to see how things will go over the next 18 games... I'd fire Tambellini immediately and promote Quinn on an interm basis. It's clear that the Oiler braintrust has an inflated view of both our players and prospect pool. You get the sense that Quinn is laughing at Lowe/Tambellini behind their backs after conducting his own evaluation of the talent here... I wonder if Managements set of Oiler Goggles have grown so so thick that it is their flawed preception of things that is preventing any action on the trade front...(Not salary, trade cap, or any of the other excuses)

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#86 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 12 2010, 11:21AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Not sold on the Ottawa players. I think Lee could still turn out, but O'Brien seems like a project to me. He's rated as Ottawa's 6th best prospect and Lee hasn't been able to crack their lineup yet even though they have a need for a puck-moving defenseman. Meh, not sure 'bout this one. Admittedly, I know little about O'Brien, so who knows.

Lee isn't in the NHL because he has a two-way deal, something like Brule had last year.

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#87 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 12 2010, 11:22AM
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MattL wrote:

You gotta watch out for those flying rumours, if you look up at them too much you might get rumour-crap all over your face. Best to wear a hat and ignore the flying rumours.

It's about the only thing I have heard recently that makes close to any sense.

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#88 Jmask5
January 12 2010, 11:23AM
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I personally would like to see Cogs next year with MPS. Two of the fastest guys in the league would surely create a lot more offensive chances. If we are going yo get rid of a smurf might as well get rid of Nilsson since Omark is the same player but cheaper.

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#89 Chris.
January 12 2010, 11:27AM
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@RossCreekNation

Springfield is a mess. O'Brien could be usefull there... As for Lee: he has had problems putting meat on his lanky frame but is only 20 years old and D-men take longer to develop. As for their inability to crack the lineup: Ottawa doesn't run an AHL training camp during the NHL regular season like Edmonton. Both players would probably have over 100 NHL games experience if they had been drafted by the Oilers. (I know I'm exaggerating)

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#90 Archaeologuy
January 12 2010, 11:28AM
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Nilsson is in the NHL, Omark hasnt even reported to a training camp yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves and say they have comparable talent levels.

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#91 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 12 2010, 11:33AM
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@Jmask5

MPS might not be here next year.

How does adding Omark over Nilsson, plus having Eberle make this team any different then it is?

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#92 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
January 12 2010, 11:34AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Nilsson is in the NHL, Omark hasnt even reported to a training camp yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves and say they have comparable talent levels.

~you can take your "common sense" elsewhere mister~

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#93 RossCreekNation
January 12 2010, 11:36AM
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twitter.com/dantencer

Said to Cogliano "The internet says you're traded." Cogliano replies: "Again? Where am I going this time." He says they're ready for rumours
29 minutes ago

Brule has the flu again...4th time this year. Unlikely for tonight, with Jacques back in. They'll do more tests on Brule re: frequency.
19 minutes ago

Busy day Daniel san.

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#94 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 12 2010, 11:37AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

twitter.com/dantencer

Said to Cogliano "The internet says you're traded." Cogliano replies: "Again? Where am I going this time." He says they're ready for rumours
29 minutes ago

Brule has the flu again...4th time this year. Unlikely for tonight, with Jacques back in. They'll do more tests on Brule re: frequency.
19 minutes ago

Busy day Daniel san.

Busy day, all it means is now no one isn't going to ask Horcof about his NTC.

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#95 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 12 2010, 11:39AM
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@Chris.

"I wonder if Managements set of Oiler Goggles have grown so so thick that it is their flawed preception of things that is preventing any action on the trade front...(Not salary, trade cap, or any of the other excuses)"

With all this "evaluation" talk, that makes more sense then all this cap excuses everyone looks for.

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#96 Heatly
January 12 2010, 11:40AM
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Jmask5 wrote:

I personally would like to see Cogs next year with MPS. Two of the fastest guys in the league would surely create a lot more offensive chances. If we are going yo get rid of a smurf might as well get rid of Nilsson since Omark is the same player but cheaper.

That's where salaries come into play. Cogs is much cheaper than Nilsson.

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#97 Robin Brownlee
January 12 2010, 12:39PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

twitter.com/dantencer

Said to Cogliano "The internet says you're traded." Cogliano replies: "Again? Where am I going this time." He says they're ready for rumours
29 minutes ago

Brule has the flu again...4th time this year. Unlikely for tonight, with Jacques back in. They'll do more tests on Brule re: frequency.
19 minutes ago

Busy day Daniel san.

On Cogliano: Not really. The person who put the bogus rumour to rest is Bob Stauffer. He asked a member of management about the possibility this morning and got a text back saying "no way."

Bob mentioned the reply and Tencer did his thumb-typing thing and put it out on Twitter. I guess that's the fastest way of getting it out there -- what do I know, I'm a dinosaur -- but the the info comes from Stauffer.

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#98 Eddie Shore
January 12 2010, 12:43PM
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Yay Bum Stauffer! I miss hearing big Georges chirp him.

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#99 RossCreekNation
January 12 2010, 12:47PM
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@Robin Brownlee

I'd assume a lot of Oilers news comes from Bob, no? Didn't mean to falsely credit work, just that I got it from Tencer's twitter, and then Gregor's post shortly after confirmed the same.

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#100 Robin Brownlee
January 12 2010, 01:07PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

I'd assume a lot of Oilers news comes from Bob, no? Didn't mean to falsely credit work, just that I got it from Tencer's twitter, and then Gregor's post shortly after confirmed the same.

I know you didn't. I think the onus is on the person spreading the information -- via Twitter, news story, TV clip or by whatever means -- to credit the person who provided the information. In this case, that would be Tencer who should be crediting Stauffer.

It's pretty basic stuff. When you write a story and, for example, the GM says he isn't making a trade you write: "GM Steve Tambellini says . . ." blah blah blah.

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