GDB XLVI: Dubie separating Crosby from goals

Jason Gregor
January 14 2010 01:31PM

Devan Dubnyk will get the honours of trying to shut down the defending Stanley Cup champions, not to mention Sidney Crosby, tonight at Rexall Place.

Oiler fans will be excited to walk into Rexall tonight, and the only other remaining game that might match tonight’s build up will be on February 1st when the Carolina Hurricanes come to town with 30th place on the line.

Dubnyk is a fairly calm guy and was pretty calm when asked about facing Crosby and Evgeni Malkin.

“I try to prepare for every game the same way. You can’t go out there and think too much about who you are playing. Right now any opportunity to get on the ice in a game situation is exciting. I have to be aware where they (Crosby and Malkin) are on the ice, but my preparation is the same if I’m playing Columbus or Pittsburgh.”

There is a lot of pressure on a goalie, but when Dubnyk or Deslauriers allows a soft goal, it's magnified even more. Veteran goalies will get the benefit of the doubt, and that’s a reality Dubnyk is well aware of. He knows he needs to prove himself and the only way he can is by playing well.

He can’t do it by himself and if the Oilers continue to turn the puck over or miss assignments as often as they have this year, then Dubnyk’s job becomes even harder. If anything, the veterans better be ready and help a young goalie when they are facing one of, if not the best player in the game.

Tonight will be Sidney Crosby’s second visit to Rexall Place. He was here Dec 5th of 2008, and for the first 40 minutes you barely noticed him. The Oilers led 2-0 going into the third, but then Crosby took over, with three straight assists. The Pens won 4-2. Last year the Oilers lost in Pittsburgh 5-4 and Crosby had one assist.

He’ll be looking for his first career goal v. the Oilers tonight; the other teams he has yet to score against include Chicago, Anaheim, Nashville, San Jose and St. Louis.

It's kind of scary when you think about Crosby. He said he needed to work on his faceoffs and he needed to shoot more. Now he is second in goals in the NHL with 30, and on pace to reach 50 for the first time in his career and he is only 57.9% in the dot. When he puts his mind to something, he works hard at it and improves. Coaching doesn’t make him great, his desire is what makes him great. All the young players on the Oilers should look at his work ethic and desire and ask themselves if they can match it. If not, then they need to work harder in the off-season.

With their win in Calgary last night, the Pens are now 4-8 in their last 12. They haven’t been playing very well, especially Evgeni Malkin. After seasons of 85, 106 and 113 points Malkin only has 43 in 41 games this year, but his goal totals are really down. He only has 13 goals so far, and he has gone ten games without a goal. He looks tired.

The Oilers will have some new line combinations tonight.

Penner — Horcoff — Nilsson
Cogliano — Potulny — O’Sullivan
Moreau — Gagner — Pisani
Jacques — Stortini — Stone

The defence will be the same and Dubnyk will start.

Potulny is the hottest Oiler right now and Pat Quinn has really liked Andrew Cogliano’s effort and competitive level lately so he moved them together. The fourth line could be very effective in creating energy and excitement. And with Godard, Adams and Rupp on the 4th line for Pittsburgh tonight I’d expect some energy when those two lines face off against one another.

Injuries hurt

Penguins’ analyst Bob Errey, who won a few Cups with the Pens in the ‘90s said if the Penguins lost Marc-Andre Fleury and Sidney Crosby they wouldn’t be in the playoffs either. He was referring to the Oilers loss of Khabibulin and Hemsky. Errey admitted he hasn’t watched the Oilers a lot, but he isn’t surprised they’ve struggled this much since 35 and 83 were lost for the season.

The Oilers were 10-12-3 when Hemsky got injured – they were 8-10-3 when Khabibulin went down four games earlier. Since both have been out the Oilers are 6-12-2. They probably wouldn’t be in the playoffs had Hemsky and Khabibulin stayed healthy, but it is obvious they wouldn’t be in 15th. The positive about the injuries is that the Oilers will get a higher draft pick.

Friends or foes

For years I’ve seen many Internet rumours mentioning that JDD and DD don’t like each other. I asked Dubnyk today how much he and Deslauriers will need to support one another now that Khabibulin is done for the year and they are the guys.

“There was always competition and I’ve heard rumours that we don’t get along and that certainly has never been the case. We had a good chat yesterday and I said we have to stick together now more than ever. It’s me and him. We’re here and that’s going to be it for the year. We need to be a team of two and stick together and have each other back all the time”

Later he told me that anyone who has ever played with him would know he is a very easy guy to get along with. He said both him and Jeff are a little quiet so it took some time to get to know each other, but they’ve never had anything but a healthy competitive relationship. It was interesting that he said “We’re here and that going to be it for the year.” That just solidifies that the Oilers won’t be getting a rent-a-veteran goalie, which is the smart move.

Parting shot

Somehow the Pens with all their talent have the second-worst PP in the league clicking along at 14.4%. There was lots of talk today that the Pens are looking at Ray Whitney in Carolina as a possible acquisition. That makes a lot of sense. He’s won a Cup, but more importantly he is very creative on the man advantage. I doubt he would cost much to pry out of Carolina.

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#51 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 14 2010, 03:28PM
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Crash wrote:

I'd love to have Stall but I'd like to find a way to do it without trading Gagner.

I'd try to as well, but it might be tough. Eberle or MPS are probably other guys that Pittsburgh would want for him.

About the best thing that could happen is Gonchar retires and we are able to move them one of our d-men in the summer.

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#52 Offthebandwagon
January 14 2010, 03:30PM
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Are you seriously discussing trading Gagner? This trade would be knee jerk and the only good thing about it would be seeing Gagner play with some real first and second line players (Penner excluded of course). He's small and his break out season will come later than bigger players, but he'll produce 70 points/season in the not-to-distant future. Who will replace that potential offense? Eberle...sure in about four years, if he grows; if he doesn't get hurt; if he doesn't fade away in the AHL.

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#53 Crash
January 14 2010, 03:31PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

I'd try to as well, but it might be tough. Eberle or MPS are probably other guys that Pittsburgh would want for him.

About the best thing that could happen is Gonchar retires and we are able to move them one of our d-men in the summer.

You're probably right and I'm not sure I want to do that either..going forward if we keep Hemsky I think Eberle, MPS, Hemsky, Gagner and whoever we get with our 1st pick this year will be our main offense in the near future.

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#54 Bucknuck
January 14 2010, 03:31PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Jordan Staal's a good player.

On the other hand, how much better would Sam Gagner look if he was playing behind Crosby and Malkin?

It's hard to know.

In the G.M.'s chair, I wouldn't trade Gagner.

You make a very good point. The grass is always greener it seems. I like Staal (and his size at centre), but not for Gagner now that i really think about it.

And just looking at faceoff percentage (thank you OBJ) I notice that Mr. Gagner has worked his way up to 50% winning 227 out of 454 (2nd most on the team). I hadn't noticed that. Only Mike Comrie and Gilber Brule are better percentages, but with much fewer draws.

Seeing that makes me feel so much better. Their point toals are almost identical, and Gagner is a year younger and playing on a sucky team.

It was fun to think about though.

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#55 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 14 2010, 03:32PM
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Offthebandwagon wrote:

Are you seriously discussing trading Gagner? This trade would be knee jerk and the only good thing about it would be seeing Gagner play with some real first and second line players (Penner excluded of course). He's small and his break out season will come later than bigger players, but he'll produce 70 points/season in the not-to-distant future. Who will replace that potential offense? Eberle...sure in about four years, if he grows; if he doesn't get hurt; if he doesn't fade away in the AHL.

I'm not saying trade him for picks and prospects, but you really have to consider a trade that would make us better. As for that potential offense, isn't that we are waiting for out of Gagner?

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#56 Nick Dynasty
January 14 2010, 03:32PM
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Offthebandwagon wrote:

Are you seriously discussing trading Gagner? This trade would be knee jerk and the only good thing about it would be seeing Gagner play with some real first and second line players (Penner excluded of course). He's small and his break out season will come later than bigger players, but he'll produce 70 points/season in the not-to-distant future. Who will replace that potential offense? Eberle...sure in about four years, if he grows; if he doesn't get hurt; if he doesn't fade away in the AHL.

agreed. Gagner is one of the few "untouchables" on our team IMO. i can see him being our 1st line center one day.

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#57 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 14 2010, 03:35PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

You make a very good point. The grass is always greener it seems. I like Staal (and his size at centre), but not for Gagner now that i really think about it.

And just looking at faceoff percentage (thank you OBJ) I notice that Mr. Gagner has worked his way up to 50% winning 227 out of 454 (2nd most on the team). I hadn't noticed that. Only Mike Comrie and Gilber Brule are better percentages, but with much fewer draws.

Seeing that makes me feel so much better. Their point toals are almost identical, and Gagner is a year younger and playing on a sucky team.

It was fun to think about though.

If you click on the players you can see there game by game %. It doesn't show how many they take, but I've noticed Potulny takes around 8-12 a night and he has shown potential to win a good chunk. Could be that third/fourth line guy we need.

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#58 Crash
January 14 2010, 03:37PM
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Nick Dynasty wrote:

agreed. Gagner is one of the few "untouchables" on our team IMO. i can see him being our 1st line center one day.

Again, I agree.

As far as I'm concerned he should be our 1st line center now, even last year. As well as our 1st line PP guy...especially now if he indeed is winning faceoffs at a 50% clip as Bucknuck stated.

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#59 Offthebandwagon
January 14 2010, 03:40PM
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@Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

I guess what I mean is that all things being equal (Staal for Gagner) you need to consider potential and learning curve. Last year Gagner was about 40 % in the dot and now he's 50%, if Nick Dynasty is right, and that's huge. He and Brule have been two of the few bright spots on this team this year, so why make a lateral trade that is a knee-jerk response just to get bigger? I'd totally ditch Grebs or Gilbert or even Souray if they were willing to take the cap hit, but no way I'd make this trade.

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#60 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 14 2010, 03:44PM
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@Offthebandwagon

That's one area of his game though, his offense isn't getting better, his defense seems about the same.

I'm not petitioning to trade the guy, but there really shouldn't be any untouchables on this team. There isn't one player on this team that is an all-around all-star or even shows that potential, so to me there is improvements that could be made at every position. Granted you aren't going to change all 23 players, but I think management should keep their ears open when it comes to trading Gagner or even Hemsky.

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#61 Bucknuck
January 14 2010, 03:45PM
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Crash wrote:

Again, I agree.

As far as I'm concerned he should be our 1st line center now, even last year. As well as our 1st line PP guy...especially now if he indeed is winning faceoffs at a 50% clip as Bucknuck stated.

Gagner is on pace to match his point toals from his rookie year (49), but with more goals. He had 13 that year.

There are a few bright spots on the team, so we need to keep that in mind... me included.

Bright spots: Gagner Brule Penner Visnovsky Smid

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#62 Offthebandwagon
January 14 2010, 03:47PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

Gagner is on pace to match his point toals from his rookie year (49), but with more goals. He had 13 that year.

There are a few bright spots on the team, so we need to keep that in mind... me included.

Bright spots: Gagner Brule Penner Visnovsky Smid

And Potulny-pretty solid rookie year.

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#63 devoknows
January 14 2010, 03:50PM
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Wow, I agree with Crash, those would be my five as well, Gagner Brule Penner Visnovsky Smid

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#64 Jamie B.
January 14 2010, 03:51PM
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Nick Dynasty wrote:

agreed. Gagner is one of the few "untouchables" on our team IMO. i can see him being our 1st line center one day.

He's been playing as our first-line centre half of this year, and he's 20. He still has time to get better.

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#65 Offthebandwagon
January 14 2010, 03:52PM
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@Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

I hear you, but will Staal ever be a legit first liner? If not, then trading Gagner would be putting all of our eggs in one basket three years from now--Eberle's the only prospective centreman to fill that void. What I'd like to know is what it would take to pry Boston's first round pick from them.

That is the one they get from Toronto.

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#66 Bucknuck
January 14 2010, 03:57PM
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Offthebandwagon wrote:

I hear you, but will Staal ever be a legit first liner? If not, then trading Gagner would be putting all of our eggs in one basket three years from now--Eberle's the only prospective centreman to fill that void. What I'd like to know is what it would take to pry Boston's first round pick from them.

That is the one they get from Toronto.

Hemsky, Gagner, Eberle, or Visnovsky.

I can't see anything else being of interest...

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#67 Crash
January 14 2010, 03:59PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

That's one area of his game though, his offense isn't getting better, his defense seems about the same.

I'm not petitioning to trade the guy, but there really shouldn't be any untouchables on this team. There isn't one player on this team that is an all-around all-star or even shows that potential, so to me there is improvements that could be made at every position. Granted you aren't going to change all 23 players, but I think management should keep their ears open when it comes to trading Gagner or even Hemsky.

I think his offense would be much better if they (coaching staff) would just realize the fact that he is our most skilled offensive center with the best hockey sense and make him our number one center with top PP time and just leave him alone and let him learn from his mistakes in that role, let him live thru any mini slumps.

Another thing to note...check out the stats of such players as the Sedins or Patrick Marleau at the beginning of their careers...they all had slow starts similar to Gagner maybe even slower...I think Gagner's numbers are improving but it will be hard going forward working with Pisani and Moreau on his wings..

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#68 OILERSORDEATH
January 14 2010, 04:01PM
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How does Moreau get to play with Pisani and Gags?? His irresponsible dumb ass should be on the 4th or pressbox!! I'd rather Stones or JFJ be on the 3rd line. How many more stupid momentum killing penatlies does this moron have to take for him to get benched?

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#69 Jamie B.
January 14 2010, 04:01PM
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Offthebandwagon wrote:

I hear you, but will Staal ever be a legit first liner? If not, then trading Gagner would be putting all of our eggs in one basket three years from now--Eberle's the only prospective centreman to fill that void. What I'd like to know is what it would take to pry Boston's first round pick from them.

That is the one they get from Toronto.

Total insanity by their GM, imo. It's not like they got that pick handed to them for free. Boston's in good shape now (when healthy) but they need to look three years down the road and find a good player to replace what Kessel could have been for them then.

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#70 Bucknuck
January 14 2010, 04:08PM
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Offthebandwagon wrote:

I hear you, but will Staal ever be a legit first liner? If not, then trading Gagner would be putting all of our eggs in one basket three years from now--Eberle's the only prospective centreman to fill that void. What I'd like to know is what it would take to pry Boston's first round pick from them.

That is the one they get from Toronto.

Staal won't be a first line centre. He is a third line center now with potential to be a second lie centre. On the Oil he would slot behind Gagner and Horcoff, but would drastically improve our third line (and at 4 million a season he had better).

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#71 Rigger
January 14 2010, 04:11PM
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Jamie B. wrote:

He's been playing as our first-line centre half of this year, and he's 20. He still has time to get better.

Agreed, he should still be centering that line. Why he's been moved to the third line with that damn goat Moreau and Pies is beyond me.

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#72 Rigger
January 14 2010, 04:13PM
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Jamie B. wrote:

He's been playing as our first-line centre half of this year, and he's 20. He still has time to get better.

But then we wouldn't get the prime opportunity to watch Horcoff whiff on passes while on first line PP duty. Ugh, that makes me want to claw out my own eyes.

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#73 Rigger
January 14 2010, 04:15PM
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Crash wrote:

Again, I agree.

As far as I'm concerned he should be our 1st line center now, even last year. As well as our 1st line PP guy...especially now if he indeed is winning faceoffs at a 50% clip as Bucknuck stated.

Ok, my last comment was supposed to be a response to this. Not sure what happened there.

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#74 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 14 2010, 04:18PM
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Crash wrote:

I think his offense would be much better if they (coaching staff) would just realize the fact that he is our most skilled offensive center with the best hockey sense and make him our number one center with top PP time and just leave him alone and let him learn from his mistakes in that role, let him live thru any mini slumps.

Another thing to note...check out the stats of such players as the Sedins or Patrick Marleau at the beginning of their careers...they all had slow starts similar to Gagner maybe even slower...I think Gagner's numbers are improving but it will be hard going forward working with Pisani and Moreau on his wings..

Or maybe fans need to realize that probably doesn't give the team the best chance to win ;)

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#75 Crash
January 14 2010, 04:20PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Or maybe fans need to realize that probably doesn't give the team the best chance to win ;)

Actually I think it does give them the best chance to win...it sure isn't with having Horcoff lead our 1st line or even our 2nd line for that matter...

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#76 David S
January 14 2010, 04:23PM
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Oh man. Penner and Nilsson are screwed. They might as well put Moreau up there. At least you could blame the 1st line's complete ineffectiveness on him, rather than another version of "Horcoff had his chances and just couldn't bury 'em. He'll be better next game."

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#77 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 14 2010, 04:23PM
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Crash wrote:

Actually I think it does give them the best chance to win...it sure isn't with having Horcoff lead our 1st line or even our 2nd line for that matter...

Pat Quinn disagrees.

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#78 Crash
January 14 2010, 04:25PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Pat Quinn disagrees.

I guess if we always agreed with what was being done then we wouldn't have to come here and blog

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#79 Crash
January 14 2010, 04:28PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Pat Quinn disagrees.

Besides just how much winning are we doing anyway?

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#80 Rigger
January 14 2010, 04:31PM
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David S wrote:

Oh man. Penner and Nilsson are screwed. They might as well put Moreau up there. At least you could blame the 1st line's complete ineffectiveness on him, rather than another version of "Horcoff had his chances and just couldn't bury 'em. He'll be better next game."

No kidding. What I want to know is what Horcoff did to earn those first line minutes, at the expense of another center, Penner and Nilsson/Brule? People get promotions and ice time by earning it, then Horcoff should be cleaning everyone's jock straps with his league leading -21.

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#81 Ender
January 14 2010, 04:34PM
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You know what I find especially relaxing about the DFF? In the old days when we used to fool ourselves into thinking there might be a postseason, we actually worried about who our wins and losses came against. It mattered because a game against an Eastern team only meant two points while a game against a division rival, especially one you were racing for eighth in the West, was a crucial nailbiter where victory meant you had a moment to draw a breath and a loss was agonizing, heartrending despair from which you might never recover.

Now? The jersey doesn't matter. I was just reading the schedule and realized 'Why bother?' We could play the same team 25 more times and some of us wouldn't notice; just let us know if we fall out of 30th spot so we can plot ways to suck more. Penguins, Stars, Avalanche, it's all pretty much the same at this point (as long as it's not the 'Canes); very relaxing by comparison.

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#82 David S
January 14 2010, 04:42PM
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Rigger wrote:

No kidding. What I want to know is what Horcoff did to earn those first line minutes, at the expense of another center, Penner and Nilsson/Brule? People get promotions and ice time by earning it, then Horcoff should be cleaning everyone's jock straps with his league leading -21.

I thought Penner/Brule/Nilsson worked really well together. God love Horcoff, but he's dead weight right now. Of course, this might be the plan, although I'd hate to think Quinn would actually stoop that low.

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#83 Rigger
January 14 2010, 04:56PM
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David S wrote:

I thought Penner/Brule/Nilsson worked really well together. God love Horcoff, but he's dead weight right now. Of course, this might be the plan, although I'd hate to think Quinn would actually stoop that low.

I'd hate to think the old guy would do that too, but who the heck knows anymore. When Gagner was centering the top line and Nilsson was with Storts and Stone (I think) we had two lines that were creating offense and putting up goals. I don't get the impetus for the change there. I don't mind Nilsson on the top line, since he is also doing well with Penner, but why in God's name would you give Horcoff first line minutes and take them away from someone who IS producing?

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#84 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 14 2010, 05:06PM
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Crash wrote:

Besides just how much winning are we doing anyway?

We (fans) just need a little humility. I mean sure NHL coaches can make mistakes. But common now, the odds of you or I knowing better then Quinn/Renney regarding which player gives you the best chance to win are pretty slim.

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#85 rubbertrout
January 14 2010, 05:06PM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:

Aside from Crosby and Fleury, the Penguins did not look very good last night even though they won the game. Malkin looked like he was sleepwalking, and the slightest traffic in front of the Penguins net caused ridiculous amounts of chaos.

I'm worried Edmonton might accidentally win this game.

I was at the game. Crosby made a bunch of saves but the flames really helped him look good. There were lots of shots right at his chest and Bourque missed about 4 golden opportunities.

I actually thought he wasn't all that spectacular. He was out of position a ton and had some good defensive play from his teamates (for a change).

If the wingers stay down low and the weak side winger hangs out beside the net i think he's pretty vulnerable.

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#86 David S
January 14 2010, 05:10PM
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Rigger wrote:

I'd hate to think the old guy would do that too, but who the heck knows anymore. When Gagner was centering the top line and Nilsson was with Storts and Stone (I think) we had two lines that were creating offense and putting up goals. I don't get the impetus for the change there. I don't mind Nilsson on the top line, since he is also doing well with Penner, but why in God's name would you give Horcoff first line minutes and take them away from someone who IS producing?

Well I guess it makes the organization look pretty bad having a guy as expensive as Horcoff buried somewhere down the lineup, so there's that. But we have had some success this year with the combos you've mentioned and it seems we're avoiding the little success we might be able to generate.

Now if you want to talk about FAIL, let's look at Sam with Moreau, the ultimate game killer. Of course, I suppose if you could still put up points with that guy, you could do really well with NHL caliber team mates.

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#87 rubbertrout
January 14 2010, 05:11PM
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Jamie B. wrote:

He's been playing as our first-line centre half of this year, and he's 20. He still has time to get better.

~I think we should put Gagner on the 4th line but only for the Jan 30 game in the hopes that he fights Craig Conroy for the Clash of the Titians II~

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#88 olderthendirt
January 14 2010, 05:28PM
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Playing Moreau with a more skilled player may make him look better and have a better selling price. The sooner the better. I see Gagner as a future captain of this team. Sheldon would do for now. Keep Gilbert trade Grebs. Bigger upside and fewer bone head player. If we can keep Cogs.

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#89 RossCreekNation
January 14 2010, 05:32PM
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Well... off to the game. Ray Whitney would look nice in a Flames uni.

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#90 cowboykid
January 14 2010, 05:39PM
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I would add Potulny to my list of untouchables...i think he has shown he is much better than just an AHL call up and will only get better when he can play with the likes of Omark,Eberle,MPS,Hall,Seguin,etc

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#91 cowboykid
January 14 2010, 05:42PM
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i mean Hall or Seguin haha

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#92 Ninjafoot
January 14 2010, 06:15PM
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Ender wrote:

You know what I find especially relaxing about the DFF? In the old days when we used to fool ourselves into thinking there might be a postseason, we actually worried about who our wins and losses came against. It mattered because a game against an Eastern team only meant two points while a game against a division rival, especially one you were racing for eighth in the West, was a crucial nailbiter where victory meant you had a moment to draw a breath and a loss was agonizing, heartrending despair from which you might never recover.

Now? The jersey doesn't matter. I was just reading the schedule and realized 'Why bother?' We could play the same team 25 more times and some of us wouldn't notice; just let us know if we fall out of 30th spot so we can plot ways to suck more. Penguins, Stars, Avalanche, it's all pretty much the same at this point (as long as it's not the 'Canes); very relaxing by comparison.

No kidding. Since I embraced the carnage, hockey has become fun again. I now have 29 teams to cheer for (everyone except the Leafs) and it is great. If Boston beats New Jersey...Yay!! If San Jose lays a beating on Vancouver...Woo Hoo!! If the Oil beat the Penguins...AWESOME !!! But at the same time if Sid the Kid lights us up for a cool dozen, life is still good. The draft pick looks fantastic and the rebuild continues. I don't even have to sweat those dreaded "3 point games" leading into the playoffs, that cause everyone so much stress due to the loser's point Bettman gives instead of a tie. Now if someone would just figure out how to hand Horcoff's +/- directly to Phanuef, it could be the most complete season we have seen in a long while.

And if we could somehow trade for all 5 first round "lottery" picks, to keep our "scouting staff" from royally screwing us again we would be laughing.

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#93 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
January 14 2010, 06:27PM
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cowboykid wrote:

I would add Potulny to my list of untouchables...i think he has shown he is much better than just an AHL call up and will only get better when he can play with the likes of Omark,Eberle,MPS,Hall,Seguin,etc

hang on just a second.

I would add Potulny to my list of untouchables

***mutters to self "serenity now, serenity now"***

please be sarcasm...please....please?

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#94 WT
January 14 2010, 06:53PM
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How long before Quinn says he doesn't need this. WT worried about coaching next year

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January 14 2010, 06:54PM
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WT wrote:

How long before Quinn says he doesn't need this. WT worried about coaching next year

With Renney waiting in the wings, I don't think you should be losing too much sleep over it.

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#96 Librarian Mike
January 14 2010, 06:57PM
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Game Day Prediction: Moreau gets a clear breakaway with 2 minutes left and, instead of shooting, fires the puck into the corner and cross-checks Fleury in the face. Crosby scores on the ensuing PP for the win.

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#97 Rigger
January 14 2010, 07:02PM
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David S wrote:

Well I guess it makes the organization look pretty bad having a guy as expensive as Horcoff buried somewhere down the lineup, so there's that. But we have had some success this year with the combos you've mentioned and it seems we're avoiding the little success we might be able to generate.

Now if you want to talk about FAIL, let's look at Sam with Moreau, the ultimate game killer. Of course, I suppose if you could still put up points with that guy, you could do really well with NHL caliber team mates.

True enough, and Sam has a point per game in the last 5, even with lower quality linemates. Imagine usual his second half of the season tear with good linemates.

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#98 Rigger
January 14 2010, 07:03PM
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olderthendirt wrote:

Playing Moreau with a more skilled player may make him look better and have a better selling price. The sooner the better. I see Gagner as a future captain of this team. Sheldon would do for now. Keep Gilbert trade Grebs. Bigger upside and fewer bone head player. If we can keep Cogs.

I suppose, if you can keep him out of the GD box. I did have that same thought about moving Cogs up to the second line, as a selling factor, seeing as there are so many rumours that have him leaving town.

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#99 Rigger
January 14 2010, 07:05PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

Game Day Prediction: Moreau gets a clear breakaway with 2 minutes left and, instead of shooting, fires the puck into the corner and cross-checks Fleury in the face. Crosby scores on the ensuing PP for the win.

LOL, sounds about right. On a more annoying note, 25 mins until game time and still 14 minutes of watching the leafs before our game starts. Ugh!

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#100 Wanye
January 14 2010, 07:26PM
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I am so jet lagged i believe I am some sort of hummingbird. HOWEVER nothing is going to stop me from crushing some "back home" Bud Lights and witnessing my third hockey game in 3 months.

Please Oilers, hear my prayer: PLEASE DON'T SUCK TONIGHT.

That's what she said.

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