Gut-check time for you...

Jason Gregor
January 19 2010 09:11AM

I think it's fair to say that the last 16 games have really tested the loyalty of many Oiler fans. One win in 16 games will do that to you; so don’t fret — you aren’t alone.

The final 26 games of 2007 were tough when the Oilers went 4-19-3, and they won their last game of the year to finish 25th and draft Sam Gagner 6th overall. In those 26 games, the Oilers were shut out seven times, scored one goal nine times and were outscored 85-37  the Oilers did win two shootouts so you could give them 39 (but it was only 37 goals in regulation).

Fast forward to now and I wonder if you feel the same way? That team was decimated by injuries and had Sebastien Bisaillon and Bryan Young playing defence for goodness sakes. Joffrey Lupul finished at -29, Shawn Horcoff and Matt Greene were -22 and Petr Sykora was -20.

Ryan Smyth led the team with 53 points despite only playing in 53 games before being traded. It was a dreadful final 43 days of the season, but here we are on Jan 19th, the drought is already 35 days old and looking like it will extend another 86 days until the season ends on April 11th.

Many of you said you could handle a season or two of re-building if it meant getting a franchise player or two. Do you still feel that way? This is a test of your endurance, mettle, loyalty and passion for your mighty Copper and Blue.

You thought 40 days and 40 nights was tough, hell you're five days away from kicking Josh Harnett’s ass and could destroy that by reaching 119 days by season’s end.

The fact is, Oiler fans, for most of you these next 86 days will be the toughest test of your fanhood. Even if you were around during the 92/93 season — the lowest point total in Oiler history — you can’t compare because the three previous years you saw your team win the Cup in 1990, and lose the conference championship in 1991 and 1992.

The 1995/96 season is the closest comparison to the despair you are witnessing right now. Back then it was also the fourth straight season of missing the playoffs. However the previous three years saw you draft Jason Arnott 7th overall in 1993, Jason Bonsignore 4th and Ryan Smyth 6th in 1994, Steve Kelly 7th in 1995 and you were once again in the hunt for a top-five pick, which turned out to be Boyd Devereaux, 6th overall in 1996.

At this point in 1996 you still didn’t know for sure that Kelly and Bonsignore would be busts, and Doug Weight was on his way to 100 points, Zdeno "No chin" Ciger and Arnott were on pace for 30 goals... Arnott got hurt, missed 18 games and finished with 28 goals while "No chin" potted 31. Even that season wasn’t this much of a test.

We are in hell right now

I wonder if Quinn will make a speech similar to this to get the boys through the rest of the season. While the rest of this movie was unrealistic, Al Pacino’s speech was spine-tingling.

You guys are the players. You won’t make it through the next 86 days alone. You’ll need Nation readers to get you thought it. You’ll need the humour, the stupidity, the asinine trade requests, the reasonable replies and the level-headed responses.

You’ll need to know that there are many feeling the same pain while watching your team get pummeled again. Now is not the time to be a quitter or a bandwagon jumper. Hell, now is the time to be more vocal than ever. It would be easy to slip into the shadows of real life, start helping around the house or spending more quality time with the missus, or taking that cooking class you always wanted to or reading a self-help book. But what good will that do you? Nothing I tell you, NOTHING.

Because the minute June 1st rolls around you will be playing catch-up, trying to immerse yourself in the knowledge about the upcoming draft on June 25th. Oh sure, you’ll go to a house party and proclaim you watched the horror of the final 86 days, but you’ll do it with a guilty conscience because deep down you’ll know you couldn’t stomach the horror of those days. You didn’t dig deep down and play through the pain, like you expect the Oilers to do themselves.

If you walk away now you’ll be giving up on the one thing that brings you true joy, but also a pain that only compares to when your first girlfriend dumped you for the guy with a cooler hockey jacket. (Don’t pretend it didn’t hurt because we’ve all been there... in grade seven or eight, or last year for my buddy, but we’ve all been there).

Giving up now and turning off the TV, or not listening to sports shows or not reading the Nation would be easy, but like in life, doing the easy thing is sometimes the wrong thing. It will be hard to drag yourself to the game, or watch it at home without channel surfing, and you might cut down your visits to this lovely site that Wanye built from two batteries, some hair from his ex, and a mixture of a 1993 BL and a half a glass of White Zinfindel.

But why?

Because the team sucks?

Because you know that JDD and DD are overwhelmed at this point and will give up a questionable goal or two?

Because the veterans have decided that taking penalties is the only way they’ll get on the score sheet?

Because Pat Quinn’s pressers aren’t as emotionally charged as they were two months ago?

Because the PPVs are more painful than the games?

Because you truly don’t know who will be better in the long run for this team: Patrick O’Sullivan, Robert Nilsson or Andrew Cogliano?

Those are just excuses; they aren’t real reasons to abandon your love of hockey.

While you ponder what to do instead of watching the Oilers remember that you wouldn’t be the fan you are today without those inconsistent, infuriating bastards...

And things could always be worse. Watch one of the most inspirational sports-related speeches of all time right here:

"If you laugh, you think and you cry that is a full day, that is a heck of a day," Jimmy Valvano.

Keep your dream alive that the Oilers will one day return as a powerhouse in the NHL and that they will do so in your lifetime.

That sums up exactly what it is like to be an Oiler fan right now, I’d bet. You laugh when your buddy tells you they will win. You think hard about which players Steve Tambellini should keep for next season, and then you cry when you watch another trouncing like last night in Colorado.

But wow what an emotional day you will have by maintaining your loyalty to the Nation, the Oilers and hockey talk in general.

And the silver lining is that while the Oilers lost last night, the Leafs, Blue Jackets and Flames all lost. The Oilers have a six point bulge on the Leafs for 29th, and a ten point lead on the Blue Jackets, while the Flames got crushed 9-1 in San Jose and are two points from being out of the playoffs.

And don’t fret if you thought about packing in the season, there are lots of people who have much more stupid ideas than that every day. Check it out and feel good about your decision to get back in the shallow end of the pool with the rest of the true fans.

You’ll feel better about it on June 25th... Unless of course the Oilers go on a winning streak and finish out of the top three.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#351 Archaeologuy
January 20 2010, 10:11AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Shane Doan is the last guy off the ice for the Coyotes. Nuff said.

You mean the same Coyotes team that has spent every season until this year as a joke in the league?

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#352 RossCreekNation
January 20 2010, 10:17AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

You mean the same Coyotes team that has spent every season until this year as a joke in the league?

The point being their best player/leader is the last guy off the ice. Pretty sure Smytty was/is the same way. Highly doubt Crosby is always the 1st guy off the ice.

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#353 Ender
January 20 2010, 10:18AM
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If we're continuing the whole MacT VS Quinn thing, it's pretty basic logic that there isn't enough information yet to draw an exact conclusion. Here's what we know:

08-09 Oilers + MacT = not good

Therefore, one or the other or both need upgrades.

08-09 Oilers ≈ 09-10 Oilers

09-10 Oilers + Quinn = abysmal

Therefore, the team or Quinn or both badly need upgrades. The probablilty of the team being bad is now mathmatically higher (but not certainly) than either coach being bad.

We also know:

4 teams and 19 seasons + Quinn = acceptable

Since we know that:

Quinn - Oilers = acceptable

and

Quinn + Oilers = abysmal

this strongly suggests that the 08-10 Oilers are not good, regardless of coaching.

7 previous Oilers teams (prior to '08) + MacT = acceptable

I'm basing the word acceptable here on win %, not post season appearances. Again, suggestive that the 08-10 Oilers are not good, regardless of coaching.

We can also say, if we go strictly by overall coach win %:

Quinn < MacT

The big factor that would lead to determining the true fault from last season would be in seeing whether

MacT + New Team = good

or

MacT + New Team = bad

If MacT does well moving on, we can safely say that the real problem was that no one could have worked with this Oiler group. If MacT fails horribly, we can safely lay some or even a bunch of the blame at his feet. Without this key information, though, probability suggests that the coaching wasn't what needed fixing. MacT with better Oilers may still have produced very good results; we can't infer that, though, for awhile yet.

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#354 RossCreekNation
January 20 2010, 10:20AM
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FYI (twitter updates)... mid-season Captain change?

FriedmanHNIC... Hurricanes make Eric Staal captain. Brind'Amour stays as alternate. Difficult, but necessary, for Carolina.

kausatoday... Eric Staal has been named Carolina Hurricanes' captain and Rod Brind'Amour is now alternate. It was time. It was past time.

FriedmanHNIC... Brind'Amour is as proud as anyone in NHL. Captained that organization to a Cup; they haven't forgotten. Not easy for Rutherford.

DarrenDreger... BrindAmour was given veto power on the captaincy change and didn't use it. Classy guy!!

Memo to Oil... Ethan Moreau is no Rod Brind'amour.

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#355 RossCreekNation
January 20 2010, 10:24AM
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Mike Comrie looks like he's going to skate with the team this morning

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#356 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 20 2010, 10:25AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

FYI (twitter updates)... mid-season Captain change?

FriedmanHNIC... Hurricanes make Eric Staal captain. Brind'Amour stays as alternate. Difficult, but necessary, for Carolina.

kausatoday... Eric Staal has been named Carolina Hurricanes' captain and Rod Brind'Amour is now alternate. It was time. It was past time.

FriedmanHNIC... Brind'Amour is as proud as anyone in NHL. Captained that organization to a Cup; they haven't forgotten. Not easy for Rutherford.

DarrenDreger... BrindAmour was given veto power on the captaincy change and didn't use it. Classy guy!!

Memo to Oil... Ethan Moreau is no Rod Brind'amour.

Lay it on the coach man, it's not Moreaus choice.

Also, someone mentioned that Moreau/Staios didn't have to participate in the bag skate?... maybe Quinn does play favorites???

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#357 Archaeologuy
January 20 2010, 10:30AM
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@Ender

The logic works soundly if you accept the assumption that the 08/09 team is generally the same as the 09/10 team.

I do not believe they are roughly the same.

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#358 madjam
January 20 2010, 10:33AM
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Top 10 reasons Oilers are where they are : 1. Katz , 2. Lowe , 3. Tambellini, 4. Pendergast , 5. Nichols , 6. Quinn and coaches ,7. Financial and Contract crunch,8. Goaltending 9. Size , 10. Grit . Last 3 are players who have little control of our major problems , yet take the brunt of the criticism .

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#359 Crash
January 20 2010, 10:34AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Lay it on the coach man, it's not Moreaus choice.

Also, someone mentioned that Moreau/Staios didn't have to participate in the bag skate?... maybe Quinn does play favorites???

You truly are a piece of work

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#360 madjam
January 20 2010, 10:36AM
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Whats the Oiler records with and without Comrie in the lineup ?

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#361 rubbertrout
January 20 2010, 10:38AM
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OILERSORDEATH wrote:

Not sure why but more and more lately I'm having second thoughts about letting Nilsson go. I think if we could form a line where he played with couple of skilled power forwards he could flourish. I think he could still pan out.

I think the 4 horsemen should be arriving shortly.

**prepares self for plague of locusts

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#362 rubbertrout
January 20 2010, 10:39AM
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@Ender

I couldn't include that block quote because I have a headache. Math frightens me.

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#363 Motel
January 20 2010, 10:44AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

The point being their best player/leader is the last guy off the ice. Pretty sure Smytty was/is the same way. Highly doubt Crosby is always the 1st guy off the ice.

Yea, but it's just practice.

If Hemsky can’t practice, he can’t practice. It is as simple as that. It ain’t about that at all. It’s easy to sum it up if you’re just talking about practice. We’re sitting here, and he's supposed to be the franchise player, and we’re talking about practice. I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about practice. Not the game that he goes out there and dies for and plays every game like it’s his last but we’re talking about practice man. How silly is that? … Now I know that he's supposed to lead by example and all that but I’m not shoving that aside like it don’t mean anything. I know it’s important, I honestly do but we’re talking about practice. We’re talking about practice man. We’re talking about practice. We’re talking about practice. We’re not talking about the game. We’re talking about practice. When you come to the arena, and you see Hemsky play, you’ve seen him play right, you’ve seen him give everything he's got, but we’re talking about practice right now. … Hey I hear you, it’s funny to me too, hey it’s strange to me too but we’re talking about practice man, we’re not even talking about the game, when it actually matters, we’re talking about practice … How the hell can he make his teammates better by practicing?”

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#364 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 20 2010, 10:48AM
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Crash wrote:

You truly are a piece of work

You think it's up to Moreau to strip himself of the C?

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#365 Ender
January 20 2010, 10:48AM
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rubbertrout wrote:

I couldn't include that block quote because I have a headache. Math frightens me.

Falling from great heights both frightens me and gives me a headache. Especially if I'm forced to do math on the way down, so I get where you're coming from.

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#366 Ender
January 20 2010, 10:51AM
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@Motel

You forget your tildes, Mr. Iverson.

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#367 Crash
January 20 2010, 10:52AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

You think it's up to Moreau to strip himself of the C?

No I wasn't talking about that...

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#368 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 20 2010, 10:55AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

The point being their best player/leader is the last guy off the ice. Pretty sure Smytty was/is the same way. Highly doubt Crosby is always the 1st guy off the ice.

Or is it because they are the captains/leaders of the team?

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#369 BarryS
January 20 2010, 10:55AM
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good to see the humour finally rising above the gloom. Now if only people would understand it takes two GM's to make a trade, things would be a lot better on the site. Better to save up the venim until after the trade deadline if everybody but the oilers make good/any deals. Seems to me those who don't know the plan aren't paying attention. Two untried goalies seems to me to be indication the drive for a 1 or 2 is well in hand. Now if they can trade one of the two current goalies for something would be something . . . .

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#370 Chris
January 20 2010, 10:55AM
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Why not do this: http://www.capgeek.com/buyout_calculator.php?Player=11&buyout_y=2010&buyout_m=06&buyout_d=15&Calculate=CALCULATE+BUYOUT

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#371 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
January 20 2010, 10:57AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Mike Comrie looks like he's going to skate with the team this morning

only 16 guys on the ice? doesnt matter anyways, only 3 show up to a game at any given time

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#372 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 20 2010, 10:58AM
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Dubnyk to start, Staios leaves before practice.

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#373 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
January 20 2010, 10:59AM
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Chris wrote:

Why not do this: http://www.capgeek.com/buyout_calculator.php?Player=11&buyout_y=2010&buyout_m=06&buyout_d=15&Calculate=CALCULATE+BUYOUT

are you being serious?

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#374 Archaeologuy
January 20 2010, 11:05AM
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@Chris

Or he can become the new player/assistant coach for Springfield

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#375 Chris.
January 20 2010, 11:09AM
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I'm a different Chris... (Look for the Avatar)

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#376 Archaeologuy
January 20 2010, 11:11AM
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Chris. wrote:

I'm a different Chris... (Look for the Avatar)

We need some kind of naming control on this site.

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#377 Senator Theo
January 20 2010, 11:14AM
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madjam wrote:

Whats the Oiler records with and without Comrie in the lineup ?

We won 5 Stanley Cups without him, none since he got here. Brutes!

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#378 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 20 2010, 11:17AM
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Crash wrote:

No I wasn't talking about that...

I'm just saying it's possible.

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#379 Chris.
January 20 2010, 11:27AM
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Horcoff's brutal play is out of left field and is one of this sesons most unpleasant surprises... I never expected Horcoff's offensive numbers to justify the contract; there were other more subtle reasons in play. Horcoff's game was always more about substance than style anyway...

I suspect the huge contract was a reflection of a) How highly Horcoff was valued by the management team/owner b) His overall importance to the club. c) A total lack of organizational depth at center.

Point a) is up for debate. (and has been exhaustively); But IMO, Points b) and c) are not. Horcoff's stuggles are a major contributing factor to the terrible slide we are witnessing... and in a backwards kind of way prove his overall importance... He needs to bounce back.

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#380 RossCreekNation
January 20 2010, 11:39AM
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Alberta Massacre by Mark Spector...

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2010/01/19/spector_massacre/

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#381 The Towel Boy
January 20 2010, 11:42AM
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Senator Theo wrote:

We won 5 Stanley Cups without him, none since he got here. Brutes!

That good for nothin'....

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#382 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 20 2010, 11:52AM
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Hey is it ice girl day?

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#383 RossCreekNation
January 20 2010, 11:58AM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Hey is it ice girl day?

Tomorrow. Sweet pic at http://flamesnation.ca/2010/1/19/no-vaseline#comments though ;-)

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#384 Bucknuck
January 20 2010, 11:58AM
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I think the main holdback I would have of stripping the C from Moreau is this:

WHO WOULD YOU GIVE IT TO????

I don't think there is anyone in the organization that warrants the C right now, so there is no point in stripping it. Plus we know there is going to be many personnel changes, so really let's not bother.

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#385 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 20 2010, 12:09PM
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@RossCreekNation

Anyone can find ones of celebs that their players are nailing. But the ice girls have that mysterious I'm not nailing Dion Phaneuf on a daily basis look.

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#386 RossCreekNation
January 20 2010, 12:13PM
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@Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

Hopefully she just slides on over to JayBou or someone when Dion gets traded.

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#387 SirFozz
January 20 2010, 12:16PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Anyone can find ones of celebs that their players are nailing. But the ice girls have that mysterious I'm not nailing Dion Phaneuf on a daily basis look.

Unlike RossCreek..ZING!!!

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#388 Senator Theo
January 20 2010, 12:27PM
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The Towel Boy wrote:

That good for nothin'....

I know! what was the 1.2 mil for?

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#389 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 20 2010, 12:37PM
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Is anyone else creeped out by that loverboy picture on the side? I really can't wait until after Feb 6th when it is gone.

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#390 Ninjafoot
January 20 2010, 12:54PM
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Chris wrote:

Why not do this: http://www.capgeek.com/buyout_calculator.php?Player=11&buyout_y=2010&buyout_m=06&buyout_d=15&Calculate=CALCULATE+BUYOUT

IF (and that is a HUGE "IF") the Oil were to entertain this option, what are the rules as far as Horcoff signing elsewhere, and what that does to these payments??

I am not familiar enough with the CBA...can someone answer that??

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#391 Dennis
January 20 2010, 12:56PM
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I took an Oilers viewing hiatus over the holidays because my childhood home doesn't have CI and the Oilers weren't good enough to warrant a trip to the bar to catch the games like I did in the good old days of the '97 and '98 seasons.

Then when I came back to town after the holidays I took a couple of more games off but now I'm back on the wagon.

It has to be totally understandable for the season ticket holder to tune out given all the garbage they've viewed since Oct of '2006 but from the TV viewing perspective it's fun to see Gene and Co trying to spray perfume on a turd.

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#392 Bob Cobb
January 20 2010, 01:13PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Hopefully she just slides on over to JayBou or someone when Dion gets traded.

I would bet my left nut that Dion doesn't get moved, if anything I would say a lesser dman like Sarich and a forward are traded. They have spent too much on Dion and he still has to much upside to trade this early into his contract. That said, and it must be the true blue Oiler fan in me coming through, but I really do hope Sutter does something that really screws the Flames up because you know misery loves company.

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#393 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
January 20 2010, 01:19PM
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Ninjafoot wrote:

IF (and that is a HUGE "IF") the Oil were to entertain this option, what are the rules as far as Horcoff signing elsewhere, and what that does to these payments??

I am not familiar enough with the CBA...can someone answer that??

does nothing for the payments, and once bought out he basically becomes a UFA

see tucker,darcy

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#394 Dan the Man
January 20 2010, 01:44PM
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Ninjafoot wrote:

IF (and that is a HUGE "IF") the Oil were to entertain this option, what are the rules as far as Horcoff signing elsewhere, and what that does to these payments??

I am not familiar enough with the CBA...can someone answer that??

IF the Oilers bought out Horcoff (not going to happen) he could sign wherever he pleases for however much he's being offered and it would make no difference whatsoever to his cap hit against the Oilers nor to the amount he was being paid by the Oilers..

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#395 Robin Brownlee
January 20 2010, 01:47PM
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Dennis wrote:

I took an Oilers viewing hiatus over the holidays because my childhood home doesn't have CI and the Oilers weren't good enough to warrant a trip to the bar to catch the games like I did in the good old days of the '97 and '98 seasons.

Then when I came back to town after the holidays I took a couple of more games off but now I'm back on the wagon.

It has to be totally understandable for the season ticket holder to tune out given all the garbage they've viewed since Oct of '2006 but from the TV viewing perspective it's fun to see Gene and Co trying to spray perfume on a turd.

Thank goodness you used five lines of an eight-line comment to explain your absence. You have no idea how many people have been asking, "Where's Dennis?" I'm not sure about Gregor, Wanye, Willis or Bingofuel, but I had at least, uh, nobody ask.

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#396 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 20 2010, 01:56PM
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@Robin Brownlee

Was that really called for?

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#397 Chickenplucker
January 20 2010, 02:02PM
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@Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

It made me laugh. Not that anyone cares.

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#398 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
January 20 2010, 02:13PM
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@Chickenplucker

I'm just shocked that someone that writes on this site goes and posts crap like that about people and then expects to get respect back when he has an blog.

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#399 Senator Theo
January 20 2010, 02:15PM
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madjam wrote:

Top 10 reasons Oilers are where they are : 1. Katz , 2. Lowe , 3. Tambellini, 4. Pendergast , 5. Nichols , 6. Quinn and coaches ,7. Financial and Contract crunch,8. Goaltending 9. Size , 10. Grit . Last 3 are players who have little control of our major problems , yet take the brunt of the criticism .

I don't know how much of this we can legitimately blame on Bernie Nicholls and Kevin Quinn.

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#400 Ninjafoot
January 20 2010, 02:21PM
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@cableguy and @Dan the Man

Thanks guys.

So basically that option costs a lot for very little benefit. No additional cap space relief, and no payment sharing.

I hate that contract more and more.

Don't get me wrong, I like Horcoff and I feel for him having to go through a year like this...but I wish we were paying him about $2.75M/season and he was a solid 3rd line guy or a 2nd line center in a pinch.

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