The Hurt Continues

Wanye
January 31 2010 04:12PM

We’d rather jam a nail into our eye and wiggle it around until we passed out from the pain than discuss the Oilers and Flames game Saturday night. We would rather pull that same nail out and sprinkle drops of lemon juice into the open wound than think about the implications of being swept in a seasonal series by the Flames and being so far down the Conference Standings that the Oilers could soon be technically eliminated from the 2010/11 playoffs too.

But we would rather have all of our limbs amputated by an old rusty bandsaw using nothing stronger than a half drank Smirnoff Ice as anesthestic than think about Sheldon Souray’s broken hand and what it means to the effort to rebuild this Shitanusly ® bad hockey club.

This is bad Nation, so very bad.

We didn’t want to get caught up in the “finally a game that means something” current that our compatriot Jason Gregor was promoting this week because we can only have our heart broken so many times before it starts to develop a thick exoskeleton that prevents it from being broken again.

But get caught up we did and went down to the Pint, cracked open a bottle of Canadian Club and kept knocking er back while witnessing one of the worst hockey games we can recall. Having later bundled ourselves into a cab and toddled off into the night, we climbed into our cardboard box under the Terwilligar Bridge and confidently reflected that “this must be rock bottom – it can’t get any worse.”

THEN THINGS GOT WORSE

We don’t know what part of getting worse has been worse – the cracking of the hand of Big Sex on the skull of Iginla or the fact that the Leafs just dramatically reordered their team with the very same kinds of trades we have been screaming for all year. It’s probably the Leafs, but let’s take a look in depth at these two newest kicks to our collective junk shall we?

KICK NUMBER ONE: Souray's hand

If you believe in destiny, Destiny’s Child or any sort of guiding force in the universe, perhaps we will one day look back and say “thank heavens Souray busted his hand. Remember how we all wanted to trade him?” Then we will laugh and laugh and toast each other with flagons of Romulan Ale – which is what we will all be drinking in 2059 when the Oilers finally climb out of this hole.

One of the few Oilers that actually garnered any interest on the open market has now taken himself out of the line up for a good long while and essentially ruled out a trade before the offseason. It’s amazing that both Comrie and Souray have busted their hands fighting in the last two games yet both games were so lacking in emotion that you would have thought the Oilers were dead last in the NHL.

Oh.

KICK NUMBER TWO: The Maple Leafs get 'er done

In case you have been caught in a Sunday morning shame spiral and are only now ready to learn the news from the outside world, the Toronto Maple Leafs have been hard at work this morning making drastic changes to their team:

Trade #1

To TOR:

D Dion Phaneuf

D Keith Aulie

F Frederik Sjostrom

To CGY:

D Ian White

F Matt Stajan

F Nick Hagman

F Jamal Meyers

Trade #2:

To ANA:

G Vesa Toskala

F Jason Blake

To TOR:

G JS Giguere

Remember all of those people who have been saying that multiplayer deals are dead in this here NHL? Remember all of the talk that big contracts can’t be moved in this day and age? Well Nation, Vesa Toskala and Jason Blake just got dealt. Anything is possible.

If it is somehow possible, 2 trades involving 3 teams none of which being the Oilers have actually screwed the team over. How you ask? Here’s how:

1. If deals of this nature are out there, it raises the terrifying thought that:

a) No one in the Oilers front office is working harder than big fat Burkie, who has pulled off not one but two massive deals or b) that the value of the Oilers Tambo is willing to part with is so low that deals cannot be made.

2. It shreds the comparative trade value of Big Sex Souray, considered by many to be one of the few Oilers with any trade value on the team. The Flames had to package up two other players in order to ship Phaneuf out for a bunch of crappy UFAs and Nick Hagman. What do you figure you can get for Souray now?

All of the GMs negotiating with the Oilers for Souray must have been pleasantly surprised when they saw this deal hit the wire and began pulling prior offers off the table and dramatically scaling down what they were offering. You know, till Souray busted his head on Iginlas face seeking revenge for the concussion he got earlier in the season at the hands of the Flames Captain thus making him untradeable at the deadline.

If it weren't so sad it would almost be funny. But it ain't funny. It's so sad.

They are talking about it over at the FlamesNation and seemingly like that they parted with a former all star defenseman in the prime of his career for little more than a bunch of crappy soon-to-be-free agents. But they are a little bit slower than most down there aren’t they?

All the Oilers need to do now to make this officially the biggest cock up of all time is bring back Georges Laraque, citing a need for increased toughness. That would just seal the deal in our mind.

Please let us be right when we say this: January 31, 2010 has to be right around rock bottom for this team - doesn’t it?

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#51 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
February 01 2010, 10:43AM
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Evil Ginger wrote:

@ Rosscreek

I think they got the two better players but they take the only guys away who can score goals away from an offense that has trouble putting up numbers. They added another d man when they have a few high priced already. I just feel like even though they got the better players it didnt do anything to better the team. It would be like trading three of the oilers top 6 guys right now for another d man. I just dont see how it helps.

Moreau, Patches, and Nilsson for that big, physical, stay-at-home we've been looking for + a 2nd rounder or some pending UFAs?

I'd do it.

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#52 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 01 2010, 10:44AM
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Evil Ginger wrote:

@ Rosscreek

I think they got the two better players but they take the only guys away who can score goals away from an offense that has trouble putting up numbers. They added another d man when they have a few high priced already. I just feel like even though they got the better players it didnt do anything to better the team. It would be like trading three of the oilers top 6 guys right now for another d man. I just dont see how it helps.

All in context.

You're right, they are overloaded on the back end, but it's pretty safe to say Burke isn't done and that this wont be a fast process. Kaberle shoul be able to land a solid forward, add a second liner in a smaller trade (an O'sully type) and then bring in 1-2 more decent forwards on the free agent market and things will be looking up in TO.

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#53 RossCreekNation
February 01 2010, 11:00AM
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Evil Ginger wrote:

@ Rosscreek

I think they got the two better players but they take the only guys away who can score goals away from an offense that has trouble putting up numbers. They added another d man when they have a few high priced already. I just feel like even though they got the better players it didnt do anything to better the team. It would be like trading three of the oilers top 6 guys right now for another d man. I just dont see how it helps.

Just think of it as an incomplete puzzle.

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#54 RossCreekNation
February 01 2010, 11:02AM
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@OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

They'll either deal Kaberle for a good forward, or for a 1st round pick this year.

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#55 Dan the Man
February 01 2010, 11:19AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

They'll either deal Kaberle for a good forward, or for a 1st round pick this year.

Kaberle has a bit of an interesting NTC which could cause issues for the Leafs if they want to move him.

From NHLSCAP.com - Kaberle can name 10 teams that he will accept a trade to; if the Leafs miss the playoffs in 2008-09 or 2009-10, he can be traded without restriction from that Entry Draft until August 15

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#56 RossCreekNation
February 01 2010, 11:30AM
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@Dan the Man

Yup. Same as last year. That's why some think he'll wait til the draft to move him (with unlimited options). Which could also make it more likely that they'll be looking for a 1st for him.

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#57 RossCreekNation
February 01 2010, 11:31AM
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For whomever it is that said they want Nick Boynton... he's on waivers.

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#58 Dan the Man
February 01 2010, 11:35AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

For whomever it is that said they want Nick Boynton... he's on waivers.

I think someone wanted to trade Souray for him.

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#59 Gunner
February 01 2010, 11:40AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

They'll either deal Kaberle for a good forward, or for a 1st round pick this year.

Brian Burke has stated that he will not be moving Kaberle nor has he even asked him to waive his no-trade.

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#60 Dan the Man
February 01 2010, 11:42AM
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I wouldn't mind the Oilers picking up Boynton, he's an upgrade on Strudwick and I don't think Chorney or Plante are ready for the NHL just yet.

He's also a UFA at the end of the season.

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#61 Gunner
February 01 2010, 11:48AM
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“I’m glad the question (on Kaberle) was asked because this is the last time I will say it, I will not ask Tomas Kaberle to waive his no-trade clause,” Burke said this morning.

..from mynhltraderumors.com

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#62 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
February 01 2010, 11:51AM
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Gunner wrote:

“I’m glad the question (on Kaberle) was asked because this is the last time I will say it, I will not ask Tomas Kaberle to waive his no-trade clause,” Burke said this morning.

..from mynhltraderumors.com

Burke wouldn't have to ask him to waive anything if a trade cropped up with one of Kaberle's 10 choice teams.

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#63 Gunner
February 01 2010, 11:55AM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

Burke wouldn't have to ask him to waive anything if a trade cropped up with one of Kaberle's 10 choice teams.

Only during that time period after the draft though, right?

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#64 Dan the Man
February 01 2010, 12:06PM
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Gunner wrote:

Only during that time period after the draft though, right?

The 10 teams restriction runs the entire year, it is lifted in the summer.

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#65 Gunner
February 01 2010, 12:08PM
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@Dan the Man

Gotcha.

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#66 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
February 01 2010, 12:11PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

The 10 teams restriction runs the entire year, it is lifted in the summer.

That's a pretty sweet setup for Kaberle - especially because he's tied to a team like the Leafs.

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#67 Dan the Man
February 01 2010, 12:28PM
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From the Journal:

The Oilers did not have a diagnosis on Souray on Sunday and the veteran did not want to talk, but captain Ethan Moreau said he would be surprised to see his teammate even skating before the end of February, given the location of the break.

The break is in his hand or wrist isn't it? How does that affect his skating?

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#68 Bandwagon jumper
February 01 2010, 12:36PM
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OK, call me cynical and paranoid.

Face it, no one wants to play here. Since the Pronger thing, the Oilers have had a hard time attracting anybody with talent. Look at the trades and free agent signings since then.

I bet most NHLers have penciled into their contracts ABE (anywhere but Edmonton).

Now this may be overly cynical, but isn't it convenient how the pressure is now off of Souray (Khabi and Hemsky too) with their injuries. This isn't their problem anymore.

I imagine the top two potential draft picks are cringing at the standings. I wonder if there is the potential for another Lindross type holdout.

And last but not least, we still have time for the Oil to get hot. A little too late for a playoff run, but not to late to play themselves out of the lottery for a number 1 or 2 draft pick. It would be just like the Oil to screw that up too.

Flame away (no pun intended).

NOTE: I am NOT a Flames fan, but a frustrated Oil fan.

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#69 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 01 2010, 12:38PM
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Bandwagon jumper wrote:

OK, call me cynical and paranoid.

Face it, no one wants to play here. Since the Pronger thing, the Oilers have had a hard time attracting anybody with talent. Look at the trades and free agent signings since then.

I bet most NHLers have penciled into their contracts ABE (anywhere but Edmonton).

Now this may be overly cynical, but isn't it convenient how the pressure is now off of Souray (Khabi and Hemsky too) with their injuries. This isn't their problem anymore.

I imagine the top two potential draft picks are cringing at the standings. I wonder if there is the potential for another Lindross type holdout.

And last but not least, we still have time for the Oil to get hot. A little too late for a playoff run, but not to late to play themselves out of the lottery for a number 1 or 2 draft pick. It would be just like the Oil to screw that up too.

Flame away (no pun intended).

NOTE: I am NOT a Flames fan, but a frustrated Oil fan.

I agree with the first part, but I've seen:

"I imagine the top two potential draft picks are cringing at the standings. I wonder if there is the potential for another Lindross holdout"

A few times...

....What? Are people serious? The top draft picks aren't going to want to come here because we are the worst team in the leauge??? ....the trop draft picks go to the worst teams EVERY YEAR.

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#70 Bandwagon jumper
February 01 2010, 12:42PM
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Hey Odgen Bro,

I hear you. But what I was referring to was whatever the negative stigma that is hanging over the Oil since the Pronger thing.

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#71 Bucknuck
February 01 2010, 12:54PM
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I hate saying this, but Phaneuf and Giguere deals were rumoured by Eklund.

Oilers fans lauding Burke, Eklund getting predictions right, The flames 8-0 vs Oilers this year, The Oilers going status quo with a last place team.

Umm... can someone wake me up please?

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#72 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 01 2010, 12:57PM
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Bandwagon jumper wrote:

Hey Odgen Bro,

I hear you. But what I was referring to was whatever the negative stigma that is hanging over the Oil since the Pronger thing.

Hmmm, ya maybe. I don't really know if it's from the Pronger stigma though. Honestly, of the 30 NHL cities though, Edmonton has to be down near the bottom for "want to be there".

I guess it's possible, but I highly doubt Hall/Seguin would pull that.

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#73 Dan the Man
February 01 2010, 12:57PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

I hate saying this, but Phaneuf and Giguere deals were rumoured by Eklund.

Oilers fans lauding Burke, Eklund getting predictions right, The flames 8-0 vs Oilers this year, The Oilers going status quo with a last place team.

Umm... can someone wake me up please?

Whoooaaa...hold on there, the Flames are 6-0 vs the Oilers, lets not make this sound worse than it already is.

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#74 Dan the Man
February 01 2010, 01:02PM
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From the Journal:

Jeff Deslauriers will start in net; Mike Comrie will return to the lineup as will Zack Stortini. Marc Pouliot will sit. The other spectator has not yet been determined. “As someone asked, is the roulette wheel still turning?” Quinn said.

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#75 rubbertrout
February 01 2010, 01:09PM
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Gunner wrote:

Brian Burke has stated that he will not be moving Kaberle nor has he even asked him to waive his no-trade.

Daryl Sutter said a couple of weeks ago that rumours that he was looking at trades for Phaneuf were "ridiculous" and that he didn't know where people came up with those suggestions.

I'll take what any of these guys say with a grain of salt.

Except Tambo. I can rest assured that he will continue to rock quietly in the corner in the fetal position.

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#76 Rigger
February 01 2010, 01:16PM
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The Oilers twitter says that Souray will likely need surgery on his hand. *groan*

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#77 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
February 01 2010, 01:30PM
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Rigger wrote:

The Oilers twitter says that Souray will likely need surgery on his hand. *groan*

Of course. Why wouldn't he?

Next thing you know the Oilers jet will break down and they'll be forced to forfeit the remaining road games in the season.

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#78 Dan the Man
February 01 2010, 01:32PM
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Per Sportsnet in regards the the rumoured Jokinen trade:

Sources told Sportsnet the deal is pending approval from Kotalik who has a limited no-trade clause in his contract. Kotalik’s limited no-trade clause lists three teams he can not be traded to without his permission and Calgary is one of them.

HA! In your face Calgary, looks like Edmonton isn't the only team that guys don't want to play for!

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#79 Rigger
February 01 2010, 01:33PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

Of course. Why wouldn't he?

Next thing you know the Oilers jet will break down and they'll be forced to forfeit the remaining road games in the season.

That would just be the icing on a sh*t cake.

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#80 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
February 01 2010, 01:36PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

Per Sportsnet in regards the the rumoured Jokinen trade:

Sources told Sportsnet the deal is pending approval from Kotalik who has a limited no-trade clause in his contract. Kotalik’s limited no-trade clause lists three teams he can not be traded to without his permission and Calgary is one of them.

HA! In your face Calgary, looks like Edmonton isn't the only team that guys don't want to play for!

Kotalik's limited NTC:

1) Edmonton

2) Calgary

3) Edmonton

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#81 Dan the Man
February 01 2010, 01:43PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

Kotalik's limited NTC:

1) Edmonton

2) Calgary

3) Edmonton

*Begins sobbing uncontrollably because he knows it's true...*

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#82 RossCreekNation
February 01 2010, 02:04PM
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Gunner wrote:

Brian Burke has stated that he will not be moving Kaberle nor has he even asked him to waive his no-trade.

And Daryl Sutter said Dion Phaneuf wasn't going anywhere two weeks ago.

Burke could wait to move him at the draft when his no-trade clause is lifted for a month and a half, and deal him to whomever is willing to give him the highest draft pick.

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#83 RossCreekNation
February 01 2010, 02:10PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

Per Sportsnet in regards the the rumoured Jokinen trade:

Sources told Sportsnet the deal is pending approval from Kotalik who has a limited no-trade clause in his contract. Kotalik’s limited no-trade clause lists three teams he can not be traded to without his permission and Calgary is one of them.

HA! In your face Calgary, looks like Edmonton isn't the only team that guys don't want to play for!

Its likely (at least IMO) that the 3 teams are Calgary, Vancouver & Edmonton.

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#84 Dan the Man
February 01 2010, 02:30PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Its likely (at least IMO) that the 3 teams are Calgary, Vancouver & Edmonton.

It's crazy that a guy like Kotalik could get any type of NTC in his contract.

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