AROUND THE LEAGUE: WEEK ONE

Jason Gregor
October 14 2010 11:35AM

The first week in the NHL had everything the league could ask for; great goals, big saves, exciting hockey, big fights, but they also saw a few things they wish had never happened.

James Wisniewski was suspended for the third time in twelve months, and I can guarantee you he will go down as the only guy in NHL history to get suspended for his “Sean I hear you’re a sword swallower,” obscene gesture.

I can’t see anyone trying to mimic his stupidity in the future.

While some of you probably laughed at his gesture, there is no place for it in the game; and society for that matter. I’m fine with his two game suspension, but once again the NHL looked ridiculous, when they gave him the same two-game suspension as Nicklas Hjalmarsson for his cheap hit on Jason Pominville.

You can’t compare the two actions, because they are completely different. However, the NHL handed out the suspensions within hours of one another Tuesday afternoon, and the optics weren’t good.

Wisniewski’s actions were immature, inappropriate and made him look like a fool, but he didn’t hurt anyone other than himself. Hjalmarsson made a dangerous, stupid play and he had ample time to recognize that Pominville was in a vulnerable position.

In the summer the NHL came up with a new rule to try and curb headshots, but it seems they are only concerned about direct shots to the head, not blows in the back or shoulder that result in a player slamming his head into the boards or glass. Watch the Hjalmarsson again and you’ll see Pominville’s head bounces directly off the glass as a result of the hit.

How is this not considered a head shot? Here’s how the new rule was written:

48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A lateral or blind side hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principle point of contact is not permitted.

While Pominville’s head wasn’t the initial point of contact, his head took the brunt of the blow and subsequently concussed him. If it is a clean hit to the shoulder and a player’s head hits the glass, to me, that is part of the game, but this hit was illegal and dirty.

It seems it is only a head shot in the eyes of the NHL if the initial contact is to the head.

Don’t get me wrong, I like the head shot rule, but I can’t understand how a version of this hit wasn’t taken into account when writing up a new rule. We see more hits from behind or blind hits from the side, than we do direct shots to the head.

I’m okay with Wisniewski’s two games, but the NHL should have used the timing of the suspensions to their advantage.

Slapping Hjalmarsson with a five gamer would have set a new precedent for an illegal “hit-to-the-body-that-impacts-the-head,” and the NHL would have finally looked like they were serious in trying to get cheap shots out of the game. I love hard hits, and I understand players will get hurt sometimes, but the NHL has created a culture of “I was trying to make a play, so it’s not my fault,” and it needs to stop.

No suspension will automatically stop cheap plays. The speed of the game will always incite a wrong decision now and then, but clearly the players aren’t getting the message. Pominville didn’t even have the puck, and he was in that vulnerable position for a few seconds before Hjalmarsson delivered the blow. You can’t tell me it was a wrong split-second decision by the Hawk defender.

Five games would have sent an early message to the rest of the league that cheap shots will cost a player a significant amount of games and money. It also would have shown that league officials consider cheap hits worse than some cheap, childish and immature obscene gesture.

The most egregious part of the suspension is that Hjalmarsson’s first game back after sitting out two games will be against the very same Buffalo Sabres. A three-game suspension would have avoided any possible retribution being handed out by the Sabres, but I guess the NHL doesn’t have a schedule in their office.

Not a great start for the NHL in handing out suspensions, or realizing that shots from the side or behind that don’t initially target the head or just as dangerous as direct blows to the head.

ICE WOMAN OF THE WEEK

~I’m surprised this feature got so much play last year,~ but due to the constant demands we will continue to showcase the best Ice Women the NHL has to offer.

Say hello to Candace who is in her fourth year with the BLUE CREW of the Atlanta Thrashers.

This lovely short-hair is in honour of my former Ice-Women selector, Laurie, a sexy short-hair herself, whose job has limited her time and won't allow her to be our main selector. Kudos to Laurie for your keen eye, and know that the Nations will miss your selections.

RANDOM THOUGHTS

  • It’s pretty cool that the Nation has expanded to the centre of the universe and launched theleafsnation.com Wanye almost sheet himself when Internet giant, Greg Wyshynski - aka Puck Daddy - tweeted about the 4th child of the Nation clan. Welcome to the Nation Leaf fans, and Wanye wants you to know he is taking all the credit for your surprising 3-0 start. Just don’t remind him that his beloved Oilers haven’t made the playoffs since he launched Oilersnation.
  • Alex Ovechkin has four goals in four games, and two of them have been game winners. He had seven last year. Clarke MacArthur, who the Thrashers walked away from after arbitration, also has four goals and two game winners for the Leafs. In his previous 208 games MacArthur had four GWG.
  • There have been some great tilts early this year, and some clear KOs, but the Colton Orr/Deryk Engelland fight made me laugh. Not because Orr lost, but because of the AGH cam. I love how a hospital sponsors the zoom in shot.

  • The more I hear Ray Ferraro, the more I’m convinced he is the best analyst in the game. I wish TSN would use him more.
  • It is only two games, but is there a bigger surprise in the NHL than unknown, Sergei Bobrovsky? The Flyers’ rookie netminder is 2-0 with a 2.00 GAA and .931 SV%. He has the best blueline in the NHL in front of him, so he might be able to keep it up. I wonder if he was chosen in any fantasy drafts? If you took him before the season started, take a bow.
  • If the Leafs become a legitimate playoff contender, I wonder how many other GMs will be trying to sign NCAA free agents for cheap next summer?
  • Eric Francis reported that Jay Feaster was brought in because Darryl and Brent Sutter don’t communicate well enough to each other. You think? I’m sure Brent was doing cartwheels when Darryl told him that Olli Jokinen was going to be his first line centre in the summer, after trading him away in March. Something tells me that Feaster will be the GM before the season ends, with D. Sutter getting a promotion/demotion to President of hockey operations.
  • If the Sedins stay healthy, look for Daniel to get 50 goals. They make plays that no other tandem in the league makes with the same regularity. Backstrom and Ovechkin are close, but they don’t complete as many stunning passes.
  • I loved the LA Kings retro jerseys. Their old logo is great, and I like the jerseys with no name bars on the back. I don’t buy a lot of jerseys, in fact I only own three, the green Hartford Whalers, a teal Miami Dolphins and a Birmingham Bulls warm up jersey, but I’m leaning towards the Kings’ retro look.
  • Panther GM, Dale Tallon, was livid after his Panthers’ lost 3-2 to the Oilers. “How do they allow Horcoff’s goal? I’ve seen worse kicks in a Vegas Chorus line,” he said when I ran into him going down the stairs to the dressing rooms after the game. I thought Tallon had a valid complaint. The Oilers got a break on Horcoff’s eventual game winner.
  • Patrick Kaleta is quickly becoming the newest punk in the NHL. He left his feet to hit a Devil, then used his head as a battering ram into the chest of Travis Zajak, and then gave him a love-tap headbutt. He is a joke, and hopefully someone teaches him a lesson sooner than later.
  • If you are keeping track Carolina, Dallas, Colorado, Tampa and LA have wins that won’t be as valuable as real wins in case of a tiebreaker.
  • Only six teams have yet to lose a game this year. (I count OT and SO as real losses). Who do you think will still be undefeated by this time next week, out of the Leafs, Oilers, Predators, Stars, Blues and Lightning? Strangely enough, five of these teams missed the playoffs last year. I think it is great when a team can start 8-0 so hopefully a few of them are still perfect by next week.
  • The NFL didn’t have a single 4-0 team this year for the first time since 1970. My Miami Dolphins didn’t even have time to chill the champagne before popping the cork when the last undefeated team fell.

PARTING SHOT…

I want to thank all of those for sending me your thoughts/tweets at @JasonGregor. I can’t respond to all of them, but I do reply to most. Your questions and comments are great, so keep them coming.

My sobering tweet of the week comes courtesy of @nmizera:

“@JasonGregor It is ridiculous that the Panthers are selling tickets cheaper than the Oil Kings.”

That isn’t a knock on the Oil Kings, but how ridiculous it is in Florida that they are selling seats for a measly $9.

Tell me again Mr. Bettman how the NHL is working in South Florida?

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#1 Clay
October 14 2010, 11:39AM
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Hello, Candace!

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#2 Alex
October 14 2010, 11:46AM
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Great article. I agree the NHL missed the boat, and I loved the cartoon...$%^$ hits the fan. Great stuff. Candace is dreamy and I think Bobrovsky will be the real deal. Go Flyers and Oilers.

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#3 GEP
October 14 2010, 11:47AM
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Hello Candace! Please Laurie, spare some time to continue making the Ice Girl picks.

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#4 I'm a Scientist!
October 14 2010, 11:54AM
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Sigh...all is right with the world again.

These are my favorite articles because they give a great overview of everything that is happening throughout the league*. Great summary! Thanks Gregor!

*actually, it is because of the ice girl. I didn't even read the rest.

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#5 Phil
October 14 2010, 12:05PM
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ATL sure got some nice trim boy I tell ya.

I remember my first time in Georgia, sun kissed blondes with curves and booties like WHOA.

Pretty much the only good thing about having hockey down south is their Ice Girls.

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#6 Dyckster
October 14 2010, 12:05PM
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Love these articles Jason, keep 'em coming! Even without the Icegirl(s) feature....honest.

Re: Horcoff's goal, right from the 2010-2011 NHL Rulebook - "If an attacking player has the puck deflect into the net, off his skate or body, in any manner, the goal shall be allowed."

Disallowed goal = "(ii) When the puck has been kicked using a distinct kicking motion."

Imho, even though thy Captain's foot moved forward, it's hard to argue it wasn't a deflection. To me, he was putting his foot in the path of the puck, it ultimately entered the net on the forward motion caused by Hall's pass. If the puck's forward propulsion was a direct result of Horc kicking it, then that would be deemed a disallowed goal.

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#7 It's Hall Over!
October 14 2010, 12:05PM
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Yuck. Gregor, please go back to your normal font size.

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#8 DN
October 14 2010, 12:06PM
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I wonder if the Toronto Maple Leafs are upset that you are Theleafsnation.com given that they say that they are the "The Official Site Of Leafs Nation" ... just saying..

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#9 book¡e
October 14 2010, 12:09PM
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#10 hamzinoilcntry
October 14 2010, 12:10PM
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Was in Phoenix about 3 years ago and went to a nascar race and and a Monday Night football game, also went to a Coyotes game when we were there. We sat 4 rows off center ice right behind Gretz on the bench. Paid $11.00 for the tickets and it was free food night at the consession. Announced attendance at that game was 5630. Tell me why that team is not back in Canada someplace?

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#11 SirFozz
October 14 2010, 12:14PM
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It's Hall Over! wrote:

Yuck. Gregor, please go back to your normal font size.

You saw Candace, right?

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#12 Death Metal Nightmare
October 14 2010, 12:16PM
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Patrick Kaleta was a joke already. why do you think Ovechkin smashed the dudes face into the glass last year.

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#13 SirFozz
October 14 2010, 12:18PM
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Agreed on the suspensions. Though I would have given Wisniewski only one game. The hit is the kind of stuff the nhl needs to get rid of. But I guess the nhl sees bj miming = attempted neck breaking.

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#14 Rob...
October 14 2010, 12:19PM
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Every game you watch you can clearly hear many F-bomb's and read plenty more on the lips of players. I understand the graphic nature of the James Wisniewski gesture that has prudes going nuts but can we at least be honest about the level of hypocracy involved in punishing him for it? Or does someone want to argue that the F-bombs are perfectly acceptible and above reproach? Do we need to hire the Church Lady to review gameday tapes and levy fines?

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#15 D-Man
October 14 2010, 12:23PM
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Hey Gregor,

Good article... I agree with you that the league dropped the ball on the suspension, but one has to wonder when the players themselves start holding themselves accountable. I'm not talking about Hjalmarrson, but Pominville... The way he had positioned himself was brutal... I think most of us here can agree he should have had his back to the wall so he could a) see the play and b) see the defender... Too many players skilled or 3rd line grinders seem to be putting themselves in vulnerable positions to allow these hits to occur.

I'm not saying this hit was Pominville's own fault, but whether it be the NHL or NHLPA, someone has to teach these players to play with a bit more game awareness.

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#16 Chris.
October 14 2010, 12:25PM
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Re hockey in Florida. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the income sharing schemes finite in nature? I mean teams can only draw shared league income for three or four seasons in a row right?

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#17 ubermiguel
October 14 2010, 12:30PM
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RE: Pominville Hit. C'mon Gregor, you answered your own question. "Pominville’s head wasn’t the initial point of contact." That's exactly why it's NOT a check to the head.

Call it what it is, intent to injure. 2 games is a joke.

I've seen too many hits where the vunerable player turned towards the boards to put himself in a more vunerable postion, for whatever reason (e.g.: either to protect the puck or draw a penalty). Pominville's position was perfect though, shoulder to the boards, watching the play. Hjalmarsson's hit is the prototypical cheap-shot.

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#18 baggedmilk
October 14 2010, 12:42PM
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Hey Gregor,

Having a Burmingham jersey is possibly the best thing I've read. Not only do you have one, it's a practice jersey. You're gonna want to frame that baby.

2 game suspension for pantomiming a blowie is fair, the hit from behind wasn't. One was funny, and looked ridiculous, while the hit from behind was stupid. Toss some stop signs on the back of their jerseys or something. Works in pee wee. Right? Right.

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#19 Mr. Pederson
October 14 2010, 12:43PM
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@book¡e

Hahaha amazing

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#20 Ryan14
October 14 2010, 12:48PM
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The problem with the NHL's suspension policy is that they punish the injury more often than the hit. I've seen this hit dozens of times (re:Cole vs. Ohlund 2 years ago, Macarthur vs. Reddox last year) that went unpunished.

Maybe if there was consistant punishment on the action, and not the result, then this wouldn't be such an issue.

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#21 Slick
October 14 2010, 12:54PM
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Can't agree with you more about Ray Ferraro. I've only seen a handful of games that he has been covering but he seems to have some very interesting and intelligent analysis. I wish I could say the same about some other analyst's out there.

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#25 OilFan
October 14 2010, 01:07PM
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Toronto a legit playoff team ? They won three games Jason THREE. They were badly outplayed by the Pens in the third period and hung on and got the win. I thought for a second I was reading a TSN article.

Other than that great read and thanks again.

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#26 Blake
October 14 2010, 01:15PM
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Candance has some nice definition, let alone beautiful contours and shapes.

=D

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#27 Dyckster
October 14 2010, 01:16PM
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OilFan wrote:

Toronto a legit playoff team ? They won three games Jason THREE. They were badly outplayed by the Pens in the third period and hung on and got the win. I thought for a second I was reading a TSN article.

Other than that great read and thanks again.

He said IF the Leafs become a contender. He never indicated they WERE a playoff contender.

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#28 Sheldon "Oilers Fan for Life!!!"
October 14 2010, 01:17PM
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Personally I think any way you get the puck in to the net short of throwing it in should be fine it takes real skill to kick in in.

I would like to see goal pads only there to protect the legs and only the width of the upper thigh. the glove should be about half the size as should be the blocker. If a goalie stops it I want it to be a lot more about athleticism than positioning and it just hits you. It will never happen but I would like it better.

Tonight the Oilers end that Minnesota streak of winning home openers and the one of the Oil losing in Min. Oil 5or6 Minnesota 4 Hall scores his first from Horc

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#29 OilFan
October 14 2010, 01:21PM
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@Sheldon "Oilers Fan for Life!!!"

Kicking with skates ?

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#30 OilFan
October 14 2010, 01:23PM
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@Dyckster

I know but if you watched TSN it was retarded. They talked about how the Leafs played so great. 14 Shots on net to get the win reminds me of the Florida game. Ray Ferraro is one of my favs. I really could go without McGuire. Can't wait to hear Rod call the game on Saturday!!!!

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#31 freeze
October 14 2010, 01:29PM
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I think Ferraro is great too! He is the Ying to the astounding Yang that is Pierre McGuire.

I hope TSN doesn't recognize him and that he gets picked up by SNet or CBC; at least then we'll get to hear him more.

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#32 Team Hall
October 14 2010, 01:30PM
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Well, the NHL has made some progress, (remember Pronger "Repeat Offender" getting one game for elbowing Macammond into next year?) but you're right Gregor, more games, no tolerance

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#33 Dyckster
October 14 2010, 01:31PM
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OilFan wrote:

I know but if you watched TSN it was retarded. They talked about how the Leafs played so great. 14 Shots on net to get the win reminds me of the Florida game. Ray Ferraro is one of my favs. I really could go without McGuire. Can't wait to hear Rod call the game on Saturday!!!!

That's the one thing SNet has over TSN, some regional coverage/bias. With TSN the West is always a secondary story.

~And I really like SNet's darts and poker coverage.~

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#35 OilFan
October 14 2010, 01:37PM
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@Jason Gregor

I hear that. I just hate the Leafs and don't really care for Burkie. ~ Wish K Lowe would have knocked him out ~

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#36 ubermiguel
October 14 2010, 01:49PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

But was it a blind-sided it? I would say yes, and the NHL said in the summer they wanted to crack down on blindsided hits. But only if the original contact is to the head. And that is jus stupid. A blindside shot can inflict lots of damage regardless of the initial point of contact.

I think you and I agree for the most part. I just don't think this hit is a hit-to-the-head. Maybe there needs to be a "blindsided" rule to cover hits like this. One that doesn't count if a guy that sees the hit coming then turns into the boards.

That Brendan Shinnimin hit is a good example. Josh Nicholls was 10 feet from the boards, it wasn't a hit to the head, but you don't need to blindside a guy like that. At least the WHL has the right idea on suspensions.

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#37 Let's Rebuild
October 14 2010, 01:56PM
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Interesting that a goalie is playing above his expectation when he has Chris Pronger infront of him for half the game. I'd like to see if Bobrovsky is still good if the Human Rake goes down with an injury. In the last few years he has made some goalies look a lot better then they are so the goalies (Roloson, Giguere, Hiller, Leighton, Boucher) stats should have an asterisk beside it with the footnote "*Pronger".

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#38 freeze
October 14 2010, 02:09PM
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Keep in mind though, that The Rake has only played one game so far.

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#39 JonahTheWhale
October 14 2010, 02:13PM
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Great article Jason. Keep them coming.

Here are a few thoughts i would like to express in a rant. Regards to the Pominville hit. Totally agree that there should of been a more lengthy suspension. That hit was pretty dirty. To everyone that says he should of had his back to the boards, maybe. The only reason i think it was dirty was because he didnt have to hit him that hard in that position. Hit him, take him off the puck and get it down the ice. Period. He wants to hit him hard cool, but he took a good run at him. Didn't have to murder him. In regards to the Horcoff goal.... Come on. I have seen way more goals that were a lot worse then that be allowed. Seriously, remember the old crease rule. Tell me there wasnt garbage being taken away and being allowed ('99 finals anyone. The goal that changed the rule). Do I think the goal should of been allowed? Why not. He put his foot in front of the puck and a defender was on him. I know if the pucks coming towards me and my foots there and i can defect it into the net without kicking it I'm not moving it and neither are any of you. Finally on the TSN commentators loving the leafs....SO what! They love the leafs as a team. Listening to the penguins and leafs game and hearing how many times the penguins commentators were praising the "god of hockey" Sidney Crosby. I swear he was paying them a $100 bucks everytime they said his name. They made 5,000 each easy. I love Sid the kid but come on there was a game being played. Are they also as bad as the Red Wings commentators? Good god you thought Datsyuk won the world title when he fought corey perry. "He threw about 100 punched and showed Perry he can go". Really 100? Wow.

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#40 Max Powers - Team HME Evans
October 14 2010, 02:18PM
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Agree with your views on Ferraro.

My guess is Tampa is the last undefeated team in the league if the Oil don't go 82-0. And that's a big if.

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#41 Ender
October 14 2010, 02:28PM
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Rob... wrote:

Every game you watch you can clearly hear many F-bomb's and read plenty more on the lips of players. I understand the graphic nature of the James Wisniewski gesture that has prudes going nuts but can we at least be honest about the level of hypocracy involved in punishing him for it? Or does someone want to argue that the F-bombs are perfectly acceptible and above reproach? Do we need to hire the Church Lady to review gameday tapes and levy fines?

I think the NHL should take a page from another major entertainment sector; the motion picture industry. They have it figured out and clearly defined; a Mary-Poppins type film gets you a G-rating. Throw in a bit of bad language and a punch to the head and you've now got a PG tag. Guy starts making a 'sword-swallowing' gesture and you're into Mature territory. The point is, the producer and director decide who their audience is and they monitor the content to keep it appropriate. They know full well that if they make a movie for 8-year olds and the censors give it a mature rating because they flashed a bit too much skin, the movie is not going to be nearly as successful.

If the NHL decides that their target audience is a Mature-level audience, then they don't need to monitor or punish the language and gestures as harshly. Of course, that will affect the number of kids that are allowed to watch the games, the channels and times that the games are allowed to broadcast on, and ultimately impact their market share of major sporting revenue.

On the other hand, if the NHL wants to keep things PG to attract the widest possible audience, then they need to be pretty firm to ensure that their show keeps to those standards in the minds of its audience, its sponsors, and its broadcast partners.

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#42 Clyde Frog
October 14 2010, 02:32PM
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They aren't selling them for $9 in Florida... It's actually cheaper than that! That $9 included parking!!

I guess if you are looking to see how well the NHL is doing in the south, well it would appear less well than the CFL as it costs more to go to an Eskies game.

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#43 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 14 2010, 02:38PM
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I know Ferraro got crapped on when he was here from other teams fans, but I really liked that he does his homework. He knows things about both teams, not like say Kelly Hrudey who spent a good chunk of a segment talking about Peckham played himself onto this team.

It'll be interesting to see what Bobvrosky can do over the course of the year. He does have a pretty decent team in front of him, so that should make things easier on the kid.

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#44 CJ
October 14 2010, 02:38PM
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Here's a crazy thought. Penalize the player getting hit. I wonder how many players would put themselves in these vulnerable positions knowing, not only are they going to get crushed, but they will also be penalized for it. I suspect the number of hits from behind would drop significantly.

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#45 dawgbone
October 14 2010, 02:39PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

But was it a blind-sided it? I would say yes, and the NHL said in the summer they wanted to crack down on blindsided hits. But only if the original contact is to the head. And that is jus stupid. A blindside shot can inflict lots of damage regardless of the initial point of contact.

A blindside hit, by it's very definition, is a hit you don't see coming. The rule to address hits to the head were to prevent what happened to guys like Booth when Richards clocked him.

You don't need to extend it to this case here because hits like the one Hjarmalsson are covered under hitting from behind and boarding.

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#46 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 14 2010, 02:40PM
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Let's Rebuild wrote:

Interesting that a goalie is playing above his expectation when he has Chris Pronger infront of him for half the game. I'd like to see if Bobrovsky is still good if the Human Rake goes down with an injury. In the last few years he has made some goalies look a lot better then they are so the goalies (Roloson, Giguere, Hiller, Leighton, Boucher) stats should have an asterisk beside it with the footnote "*Pronger".

The Rake only played in one of the kids games.

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#47 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 14 2010, 02:45PM
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Here's a crazy thought. Penalize the player getting hit. I wonder how many players would put themselves in these vulnerable positions knowing, not only are they going to get crushed, but they will also be penalized for it. I suspect the number of hits from behind would drop significantly.

Not sure we want the refs or the league using more judgement to who is putting themselves in danger. Maybe if they do something similar to the whole diving fine that no one really hears about?

The one problem I see is the NHL only takes action when someone gets hurt or the hit looks bad. You don't see anyone saying anything when a guy gets hit from behind in behind the play in the middle of the ice.

Maybe it's time for the NHL to take a page out of minor hockey and automatic suspension for any hit from behind or blindside hit etc...

I'd also like them to take it one step further and fine guys that take a run at a guy and miss, but I don't see that happening.

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#48 Woogie
October 14 2010, 02:48PM
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Jason,

A friend told me this so I thought I would ask. Is it true that Kipper not only smokes cigarettes however smokes between periods?

***God I hope he doesn't because I have $5.00 on this bet***

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#49 DougWeightProblem
October 14 2010, 02:53PM
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Not sure if its been mentioned, but I believe Gregor touched on it in the article. Wisniewski has had three suspensions in the past twelve months, so perhaps his suspension was more severe than normal, given his recent history. Hjalmarsson, on the other hand, is a first-time offender and perhaps this is more of a warning than any real discipline. I'm not saying I agree with it, and had it been me instead of Colin Campbell it would have been 1 for Wisniewski and 5 for Hjalmarsson, but maybe that's the NHL's reasoning.

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#50 freeze
October 14 2010, 02:54PM
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Woogie wrote:

Jason,

A friend told me this so I thought I would ask. Is it true that Kipper not only smokes cigarettes however smokes between periods?

***God I hope he doesn't because I have $5.00 on this bet***

I haven't heard that about Kipper but I have heard that about Khabby.

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