Prospects Progress

Lowetide
October 03 2010 09:24AM

Each June and December, I post a Top 20 prospects list. Since this is the midway point between the two lists, I thought it might be an idea to see how they're progressing.

  1. Taylor Hall: Since draft day he's devoted himself to making the 10-11 Edmonton Oilers. His Desjardins NHL equivalencies are very close to recent rookie phenoms Stamkos and Tavares. We shouldn't get ahead of ourselves--there are going to be struggles--but this young man has done everything expected and more in his first weeks of pro hockey. His final performance of TC gave him and fans a chance to see what happens when even a gifted rookie faces a wall of veteran defense. He'll adjust.
  2. Magnus Pääjärvi: The young man has stolen the show this TC. 216 days older than Hall, his SEL experience has been extremely beneficial this fall. The kid is a bullet, and despite a gangly frame you can see he'll eventually be an absolute load flying down the wing. A ridiculous talent.
  3. Jordan Eberle: Right on track. I've been impressed by Renney's handling of Eberle, he apparently sees a more complete player than you'd see in an average 20-year old prospect. He's also performed very well offensively and hasn't let the play die on his stick often. Fine young prospect.
  4. Tyler Pitlick: A very impressive training camp has Oiler fans thinking the organization may have acquired that most rare of all things: an effective 2-way center with size. Pitlick is 3gp, 1-0-1 -1 in junior (Medicine Hat, WHL) , plus he's 6.02, 194 and won't turn 20 until November 2011.
  5. Chris Vande Velde: Big college center who won a lot of faceoffs in the NCAA had an impressive main camp. VV has a nice range of skills, including better footspeed than expected and nice touch around the net. He also displays defensive awareness and the ability to impact a play without taking a penalty or botching it altogether. We should remember this name.
  6. Theo Peckham: The top 5 on my list have strong (bold!) arrows going in the right direction this fall. Peckham entered camp with a job to lose and he may have done just that with an uneven performance. I still think he's a solid NHL prospect, and there are rumors that he won't clear waivers, but based on this camp it seems pretty clear the Oilers have some other attractive options.
  7. Linus Omark: If I were Omark I'd fire my agent. If the young man had come over to camp a year ago, Omark would likely be a lock for this roster. As it is, he's "Ringo Starr" and the other members of the fab four are getting all of the attention. Omark has displayed unreal puck skills and a surprising amount of grit and tenacity. Is it enough? It sure as hell would have been a year ago.
  8. Anton Lander: Playing in the SEL (6gp, 0-3-3) and performing a third line role, Lander continues to play enormous minutes for Timra. Lander is once again getting 18 minutes a night (they played him 19 minutes a night in the playoffs last spring) and appears to be among the top 3 in TOI for Timra forwards so far this season.  
  9. Martin Marincin: The young man has had an immediate impact in the WHL. His stats line (4gp, 2-1-3 Even) is very impressive for a defender, and his 15PIMS suggest obstreperous and defiant aggressiveness (looking for new ways to say truculence). This fellow is having a very impressive start.
  10. Devan Dubnyk: His pre-season has been solid and it looks like the big man has won a roster spot. Dubnyk has outplayed JDD so far (SP edge is .906 to .888 in a small sample size) in a race that has been more tortoise than hair. I hope he wins the job, have been cheering for him over many years.
  11. Alex Plante: Solid training camp, he needs more time to mature and get rid of a need to adlib. When he plays it straight, Plante has a lot of things an NHL team can find useful. Strong young man, his development may make it easier for the club to risk waivers on Peckham.
  12. Jeff Petry: Quality TC gave Oilers fans a chance to see what the organization was excited about over the last couple of seasons. His foot speed is already major league, and he has some grit, so the Oilers are waiting on improvement in his decision making and for him to get comfortable with the major leap from NCAA to AHL. Taylor Chorney taught us all its a gap.
  13. Teemu Hartikainen: A solid TC has him in the mix for a callup this season. My guess is that Hartikainen's skating will keep him in the minors for most of the season and he may be looking at a 4th line role when he does arrive in the NHL. However, he's a good bet to have a career, and based on his draft pedigree that's a win for everyone.
  14. Ryan Martindale: A slower start in the OHL (3gp, 0-2-2 -1) has Martindale getting fewer minutes (based on reports),but it is a long season and he's just getting started. Considered a leader on the 67's.
  15. Curtis Hamilton: A nice start to the season (4gp, 1-3-4 -2) and he's healthy. Hamilton is a very interesting prospect, in that he's already a physical presence (listed at 6.03, 202) and playing on a skill line. Although I have him listed 15th, his skill set is very valuable. If he stays healthy, this guy could be a big part of the future.
  16. Olivier Roy: After serving notice that he's a legit "#1G of the future" calibre prospect, Roy returned to the QMJHL and has played in only 1 game (gave up 4 goals). Acadie-Bathurst appears to be riding a less proven goalie, so I wonder if Roy had an injury after TC. An aside: I don't know who is responsible for the mess that is the CHL website fiasco, but the man at the top of that decision should be fired. rfn.
  17. Johan Motin: Slowly but surely, he's being passed by everyone. Seriously. Motin was about even with Alex Plante a year ago (both playing depth minutes in the AHL) and since then Plante and others have passed him. Motin's decision making seems to be the problem, as his physical attributes (6.02, 202) are certainly in the range for pro defensemen. If he does become an NHL regular, it is likely to be later than sooner.
  18. Taylor Chorney: When a young prospect is at a career crossroads this early, it usually means the organization has made a mistake in moving him up the ladder. This is certainly the case for Chorney, who doesn't look big enough to impact (let alone win) a puck battle with NHL forwards. Finesse Dmen can play in the NHL, but he needs time to learn the position.
  19. Jeremie Blain: Has played in only 2 of his team's 8 QMJHL games, going 2gp, 0-1-1 E. We'll need more information on him, but he seems to be a prospect worth following.
  20. Toni Rajala: Impressive start for Ilves Tampere (SM-Liiga) with 4gp, 1-2-3 -1. Appears to be safely in the top 6 for the club, it'll be interesting to see if he can post a better number than Rita or Salmelainen in the same league, same age. Looks good so far.

The number of prospects with arrows in the right direction is impressive. The entire top 5 are hammering on full throttle, and impressive starts for Marincin and others gives the entire list a look of exceptional quality. Not all of these young men will be NHL players 5 years from now; injuries will impact, and some of them won't developed as hoped. However, there aren't many tweeners in the group, and the defensemen are mostly big, strong kids learning the game.

Disappointments? It's early. However, Theo Peckham has struggled in main camp, Motin doesn't appear to have another gear. Worries? Why isn't Roy playing more?Overall, things are breaking well for Oilers prospects early on.

 

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#1 m_kennedy13
October 03 2010, 09:36AM
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Fist I guess.

Lowetide, always a great read, never quit.

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#2 DC
October 03 2010, 09:38AM
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Good read, I hope you keep up on the prospects more over the course of the year. The future is definatley bright. Why isn't Roy playing more?

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#3 dawgbone
October 03 2010, 09:47AM
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One thing I've noticed this TC is that out of the big 3, age seems to matter.

Eberle has consistantly been the better player of the 3 this camp. He is just a solid positional player that knows where to go at both ends of the ice. Game in and game out he's gotten the most chances and contributed the most in his own end. His game right now can translate to the NHL level. He's still going to have to adjust to the speed and the lack of space, but he's far ahead of the rest of the rookies in terms of knowing where to go on the ice.

MPS has been second best by my eye. You can tell he creates everything off his speed because he's kept trying to take it wide since the first game (with less and less success agaisnt more and more NHLers). He's drawing a lot of penalties (including some against NHLers), but they've figured out how he likes to attack the net already. He needs to learn to use his speed without the puck in the offensive end on give and goes. Getting the puck at the defensive zone face-off circle in full flight will cause defencmen issues. There's a lot less room on the ice here and he can't take the puck at centre and attack all the time like he's used to doing.

Hall has surprised me. I've really liked his penalty killing and he's solid at coming down low to support the puck in the defensive end (knowing when to do it and also being able to get back up to his man). Offensively though, he's going to have to adjust his game. He's used to bull rushing to the net and that's a lot harder to do at this level than in the OHL. He also doesn't have a lot of patience with the puck. He wants something to happen right away and often times doesn't let anyone else get in position to support him. I think as he gets bigger and stronger his attacking style will work better. I thought he'd be the other way around. Better offensive instincts and worse defensive ones.

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#4 doritogrande
October 03 2010, 09:48AM
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I'm really concerned about the usage of our two junior-aged goalies. It's not just Roy who's being pushed aside, Bunz looks like the #2 option in Medicine Hat now too. I don't have the kind of high expectations for Roy that you do, but he's still young.

Agreed that all the CHL websites are absolute sh!t right now. Didn't they used to have a game-by-game statistics department for each player on their page like the AHL website has? That's going to be a pain in my a$$ if I'm going to document prospect scoring lines over the course of the season.

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#6 Wanye
October 03 2010, 10:04AM
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Lowetide wrote:

dawgbone: Excellent post. I've been surprised by all 3 away from the puck, they keep their feet moving and (as you say) have performed well in circumstances many of us didn't think they'd see this fall.

I think it is reasonable to ask this question: if Hall ISN'T performing at a top 6 level after 9 games, do you send him to junior?

Please don't send him back to junior. My new HALL4LYFE tattoo across across my forehead will be so gauche until he returns...

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#7 a lg dubl dubl
October 03 2010, 10:07AM
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Good read Lowtide! Im curious if the Oilers decide to send Hall back to junior does it have to be within the first 10 games or can they send him back say after 20-30 game range?

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#8 a lg dubl dubl
October 03 2010, 10:09AM
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Wanye wrote:

Please don't send him back to junior. My new HALL4LYFE tattoo across across my forehead will be so gauche until he returns...

LMAO! and I thought my replica tattoo of Halls jersey on my back was crazy! ;)-

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#10 dawgbone
October 03 2010, 10:20AM
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Lowetide wrote:

dawgbone: Excellent post. I've been surprised by all 3 away from the puck, they keep their feet moving and (as you say) have performed well in circumstances many of us didn't think they'd see this fall.

I think it is reasonable to ask this question: if Hall ISN'T performing at a top 6 level after 9 games, do you send him to junior?

My only concern with the 9 game tryout is what happened with Gagner.

He had 1G 6A -1 in his first 9 games which probably was enough to keep him up with the team based solely on that. His next 15 games he put up 1G 1A -8.

While I think Hall is more physically ready to play in the NHL than Gagner was at 18, I don't think his style of play is ready for it yet.

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#11 madjam
October 03 2010, 10:21AM
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Hemsky appears to be man most likely to make or break our rookies . He's got to start burying those ten bell chances he's getting from these youngsters.

Fraser not making much of a statement . Reddox keeps improving . Giroux in the mix with Omark . Stortini continues to get better. Have to wonder if Omark had better linemates(offensively ) if he'd be up much higher ? I'd still like to see Horcoff center Paajarvi and Omark for a game .

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#12 CurtisS
October 03 2010, 10:25AM
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LT great read and nice comments DB, I think Eberle is also the most ready of the 3.

What you think of Florida waiving Michael Grabner this morning? You think the Oilers are thinking about him this morning?

Whos the better winger right now Cogliano or Grabner? I know Brule is the better centerman between Cogs and himself.

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#13 Shapeman
October 03 2010, 10:33AM
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CurtisS wrote:

LT great read and nice comments DB, I think Eberle is also the most ready of the 3.

What you think of Florida waiving Michael Grabner this morning? You think the Oilers are thinking about him this morning?

Whos the better winger right now Cogliano or Grabner? I know Brule is the better centerman between Cogs and himself.

I would pick up grabner in a heartbeat. DO IT TAMBO!!

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#14 a lg dubl dubl
October 03 2010, 10:33AM
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@Lowetide

Thanks LW, learn somethin new every day. Myself personally thinks Hall should stay up with the team even if he doesn't play every game. I wonder if Renney might do the same thing the Lighting did with Stamkos in his 1st yr, and not give him big time minutes all the time.

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#16 etownman
October 03 2010, 10:58AM
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The Oilers would be foolish to lose Peckham on waivers! I know Belle & Petiot don't bring what Theo can bring to the rink. The Oilers need to be patient with him & the fans (& media, especially Stuffer) so he can adjust his game! They have good guys here in Strudwick & Vandermeer who can help immensely, everybody just needs to be patient because he can bring it when called upon! Belle & Petiot have had numerous opportunities with other organizations & haven't stuck. They'll be good call-ups & good players at OKC but I doubt if they'll be quality everyday NHL d-men!

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#17 Jamie B.
October 03 2010, 11:01AM
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At this point I honestly don't care whether Hall is "ready" or not for the NHL, because he is so far beyond the OHL you can't possibly send him back.

He has to learn to play the NHL game against men. He will do that learning here. That's not wasting a year of restricted free agency, that's developing him properly. Deal with it.

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#18 Wanyes bastard child
October 03 2010, 11:17AM
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Stupid question... where did we get Petiot from?

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#20 PabstBR55
October 03 2010, 11:32AM
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Very good players get waived every now and then. As an early-season strategy, The Oilers should sacrifice holding onto NHL-ready players (like Fraser, Jones, JDD, or Peckham), in favour of fielding a lineup with less experienced talent that has greater upside.

The exhibition season is too small a sample size to determine who will have the greatest impact during the entire NHL season, or over their young career. Meanwhile, hard-nosed 4th liners are available for cheap anytime.

Guys like Omark, Grabner, and other gems who come free of charge courtesy of other teams' cavalier GM's should take priority for the Oilers opening-day 2010-2011 lineup.

For waiver pickups, the price is right.

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#21 @NateInVegas
October 03 2010, 11:33AM
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LT,

The Mike Comrie signing was a waste time.

Omark should change representation.

Can't wait to see Olivier Roy v Jack Campbell at the WJHC.

Roy's probably more valuable to the Oilers future than Pitlick.

What the hell went wrong with Thomas Hickey?

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#22 Rogue
October 03 2010, 11:38AM
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LT......"If I were Omark I'd fire my agent. If the young man had come over to camp a year ago, Omark would likely be a lock for this roster."

I totally agree. Terrible decision. On another note, if 20 games into the year and Frasor is a dissappointment, who do you see as being the first guy called up for the 4th line role?

Great analysis,LT.

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#23 Dutchscooter
October 03 2010, 11:50AM
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@Lowetide

Wanye: I have one word for you: balaclava.

How about one of those one size fits no one stretch ball caps (on backwards)? Then you can rock the Oil logo on the cap and cover your tat until Hall comes back!

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#24 dawgbone
October 03 2010, 11:50AM
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Jamie B. wrote:

At this point I honestly don't care whether Hall is "ready" or not for the NHL, because he is so far beyond the OHL you can't possibly send him back.

He has to learn to play the NHL game against men. He will do that learning here. That's not wasting a year of restricted free agency, that's developing him properly. Deal with it.

Is there anything to suggest leaving a player in the OHL will hurt them in terms of their development?

There is far more evidence to suggest that bringing a player in at 18 can hurt them though (see our own Brule).

And if he's not ready to play in the NHL and plays here all year it is very much wasting a year of restricted free agency. I don't think you could define wasting in a better way. He was here, wasn't ready and a year came off his contract and he got a year of service.

If he goes back to the OHL he is not going back to the same dominant Windsor team. He'll also be able to switch to C if everyone feels that is where he's better suited.

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#25 dawgbone
October 03 2010, 11:55AM
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PabstBR55 wrote:

Very good players get waived every now and then. As an early-season strategy, The Oilers should sacrifice holding onto NHL-ready players (like Fraser, Jones, JDD, or Peckham), in favour of fielding a lineup with less experienced talent that has greater upside.

The exhibition season is too small a sample size to determine who will have the greatest impact during the entire NHL season, or over their young career. Meanwhile, hard-nosed 4th liners are available for cheap anytime.

Guys like Omark, Grabner, and other gems who come free of charge courtesy of other teams' cavalier GM's should take priority for the Oilers opening-day 2010-2011 lineup.

For waiver pickups, the price is right.

I couldn't agree more (which is why I'd rather risk losing Belle or Petiot to waivers than Peckahm).

This is by all accounts a developmental year. Why not use it on reclaimation projects? It's a no lose situation.

If the guy turns out great. You've got another young player ready to break out or you've got a trading chip.

If he doesn't, you've cost yourself a $100k in waiver transfer fees and whatever you paid the player.

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#26 PabstBR55
October 03 2010, 11:57AM
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@@NateInVegas

What's the story with Thomas Hickey? Isn't he a top D prospect with LA?

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#28 Jamie B.
October 03 2010, 12:13PM
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dawgbone wrote:

Is there anything to suggest leaving a player in the OHL will hurt them in terms of their development?

There is far more evidence to suggest that bringing a player in at 18 can hurt them though (see our own Brule).

And if he's not ready to play in the NHL and plays here all year it is very much wasting a year of restricted free agency. I don't think you could define wasting in a better way. He was here, wasn't ready and a year came off his contract and he got a year of service.

If he goes back to the OHL he is not going back to the same dominant Windsor team. He'll also be able to switch to C if everyone feels that is where he's better suited.

I suppose your point about Windsor is true, I just don't see how you can ask a guy who's done everything Hall's done in junior to go back and do more. Would it hurt his development? I can't say, but I bet it would hurt his relationship with the team. "Suck it up, this is a business, etc." but to me that's at least as valuable as a year of his contract.

Regardless, I do think he's ready to play in the NHL. He doesn't have to be perfect to deserve to be here. It's not like he's peaking this year. This is the best place for him and I doubt anyone can convince me otherwise.

If, come the end of the season, it's been a horrible disaster, I will concede my wrongness then. :)

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#29 dawgbone
October 03 2010, 12:36PM
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Jamie B. wrote:

I suppose your point about Windsor is true, I just don't see how you can ask a guy who's done everything Hall's done in junior to go back and do more. Would it hurt his development? I can't say, but I bet it would hurt his relationship with the team. "Suck it up, this is a business, etc." but to me that's at least as valuable as a year of his contract.

Regardless, I do think he's ready to play in the NHL. He doesn't have to be perfect to deserve to be here. It's not like he's peaking this year. This is the best place for him and I doubt anyone can convince me otherwise.

If, come the end of the season, it's been a horrible disaster, I will concede my wrongness then. :)

He won't be the first highly touted player to do this though. Ottawa did it with Spezza and Anaheim did it with Ryan. Both guys were held off for various reasons (including financial).

I agree, he doesn't have to be perfect to be here, but he does have to be able to contribute. Even if you don't agree that saving the year on the contract could be important, it should be noted that he hasn't really done much to suggest he's going to be able to contribute at the NHL level.

MPS has been drawing penalties at a fantastic rate, Omark has been getting a lot of good scoring chances and Eberle has been very good at both ends of the ice. Those are things that can contribute. Has Hall done the same? Personally I don't think he has.

In the end, it's all a moot point. Hall is playing in the NHL this year unless he completely craps the bed the first 9 games (even then they might keep him up). Whether it's a good idea or not will be answered in a few years.

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#30 GSC
October 03 2010, 12:37PM
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I saw Vande Velde good a while ago, before his days in Grand Forks, ND.

Glad to see that my eyes haven't deceived me.

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#31 book¡e
October 03 2010, 12:41PM
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@dawgbone

We actually won't know, because we won't know what would have happened if Hall were sent down. This is the primary reason there is debate, we can't try both options and the sample size of similar situations is too small to do some kind of statistically meanigful study - and even it were large enough there is enough differences between cases (and individuals) that knowing which individuals would benefit more from more junior or less junior is impossible.

With that said, there is a good argument for allowing the middle of the road - the AHL.

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#32 GSC
October 03 2010, 12:48PM
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@dawgbone

"In the end, it's all a moot point."

Exactly, it's about time that someone pointed this out. He's playing in the NHL whether some like it or not.

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#33 GSC
October 03 2010, 12:50PM
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dawgbone wrote:

My only concern with the 9 game tryout is what happened with Gagner.

He had 1G 6A -1 in his first 9 games which probably was enough to keep him up with the team based solely on that. His next 15 games he put up 1G 1A -8.

While I think Hall is more physically ready to play in the NHL than Gagner was at 18, I don't think his style of play is ready for it yet.

Do you really see Gagner as a comparable to Hall?

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#34 SumOil
October 03 2010, 01:07PM
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GSC wrote:

Do you really see Gagner as a comparable to Hall?

No he doesnt. All he is saying is that there is a good chance that Hall plays well in the first 9 games and his point production trails off. It is a very valid point. At the start of the season, teams are still sloppy and there is a better chance for a player like hall to have good production

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#36 GSC
October 03 2010, 01:38PM
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Lowetide wrote:

GSC: It isn't a matter of "liking it or not" as much as how best to use the asset. Is Hall better off going back to junior? Would that make him a better player two years from now?

My opinion is that if he can play in the NHL this season (and learn at that level) it is the best option.

But I respect other views, and don't think anyone is approaching it as a "like or not" discussion.

We're Oilers fans. I think we all approach it from that pov.

Another year in junior isn't going to do anything for Hall. He's already had three years in the O and has gotten progressively better with each season. He'd be spinning his wheels with a 4th season in Windsor.

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#37 GSC
October 03 2010, 01:39PM
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SumOil wrote:

No he doesnt. All he is saying is that there is a good chance that Hall plays well in the first 9 games and his point production trails off. It is a very valid point. At the start of the season, teams are still sloppy and there is a better chance for a player like hall to have good production

Well put, thanks for clarifying (even though you're not dawgbone...or are you? Who put you up to this?!)

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#38 Phil
October 03 2010, 01:58PM
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Don't necessarily agree with the rankings LT re: Petry, Peckham and Omark, but aside from maybe a minor shuffle that's a good list.

Wow do the Oilers ever have a solid, if not unspectacular stable of prospects ATM. And quite honestly I do not think I am overvaluing any of these players. From the seeing eye to the numbers game, there are a few potential studs there, a few under-the-radar gems, and some very serviceable future players.

Oilers have to be top 5 in the league ATM in terms of their prospect depth chart and the amount of potential high end players they have in the system. Not that it really means anything until they are fully developed and meet their actual potential but man is that exciting to look at.

Add in another high end prospect after this season and the future is lookin' good boys and gals!

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#39 RossCreekNation
October 03 2010, 02:10PM
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RE: Alex Plante - Strong young man, his development may make it easier for the club to risk waivers on Peckham.

Exactly what I was thinking. Plus, as has been pointed out, that would be a Stu MB pick vs an old regime "Ted Turner" pick.

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#40 RossCreekNation
October 03 2010, 02:16PM
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Lowetide wrote:

The rule is 9 games. After that, he'll burn a season of his entry level deal. Personally, I think Hall will play well enough to stay. However its worth talking about.

Wanye: I have one word for you: balaclava.

They would burn a year of his entry-level deal (bad), but wouldn't burn a year of his UFA eligibility as long as he was returned before his 40th game (good). At least that's my understanding.

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#42 RossCreekNation
October 03 2010, 02:20PM
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Shapeman wrote:

I would pick up grabner in a heartbeat. DO IT TAMBO!!

Uh... why?

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#43 godot10
October 03 2010, 02:31PM
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//Linus Omark: If I were Omark I'd fire my agent. If the young man had come over to camp a year ago, Omark would likely be a lock for this roster. As it is, he's "Ringo Starr" and the other members of the fab four are getting all of the attention. Omark has displayed unreal puck skills and a surprising amount of grit and tenacity. Is it enough? It sure as hell would have been a year ago.//

Omark will play in the NHL eventually somewhere. The year in the KHL set him up financially for life ($1 million in the bank). He has derisked his furture with respect to injuries by taking a bird in the hand for one year, before chasing bigger prey in the bush.

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#44 RossCreekNation
October 03 2010, 02:38PM
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I agree Hall is likely here to stay, but with Bob Boughner moving on from Windsor, and some of the other high-end talent doing the same, could the Oilers theoretically force Windsor to trade him elsewhere (yes, rhetorical)? Could they somehow force them to trade him to the Oil Kings (or anywhere in the Dub, for that matter)? I know trading between leagues is, at the very least, uncommon, but is it possible? I assume $$ would be the biggest factor heading Windsor's way (perhaps a Euro or Euro pick, as well). Just curious...

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#45 Phil
October 03 2010, 02:47PM
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I have a huge mancrush on Linus Omark that much is certain.

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#46 a lg dubl dubl
October 03 2010, 03:17PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Uh... why?

My thoughts exactly....IMO if the oilers did grab Grabner(pardon the pun lol) i think it would stunt the likes of omark getting a chance with the big club, unless there's some deal we dont know about that include Cogliano, then Grabner could take his spot but at 6'0 170 lbs i dont see the Oilers taking Grabner

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#47 spOILer
October 03 2010, 03:22PM
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Godot...

That's only $125K more than he would have earned on this side of the pond. Giving up $125k for entrenching one's self in the best league, isn't such a bad trade-off.

But there's no guarantee he would have made the team. The Comrie signing, Cogliano staying, POS trade, and the play of Brule would have made it tough to make the team last year. It just would have been a bit easier than this year. We're also assuming he was the same player last autumn as this one. He probably picked up a few things in the K.

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#48 godot10
October 03 2010, 04:09PM
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The difference was a lot more than $125K

Omark's Russian million was guarenteed. Financial security for life.

The Oilers had to offer a two-way entry level deal to Omark. $1 million in the hand in Russia vs. injury risk and $50K in the AHL.

It was a smart decision.

Omark;s agent could could the infinite number of midgets the Oilers had on one-way contracts last year.

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#49 ken
October 03 2010, 04:20PM
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Hall reminds me of Messier.Out of control but really wired and a whole lot more skill than Mark had back then. some of my buds wanted Mark traded before he broke out.It would have been a big mistake!!!I think Hall just needs time to adjust to the speed of the NHL game.Just looking at his shoulders this guy is going could be ovechkin size in a few years.The ohl would be useless for his development.as the AHL is not an option just have a little patience.

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#50 dohfOs
October 03 2010, 04:48PM
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great read. will most def. come back here more then once a day. keep it up!

and on your list. i'd place omark abpve both vande velde and peckham. and please. let it be dub and not jdd for the future.

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