GDB 10.0: OFFENCE STARTING TO ROLL?

Jason Gregor
November 02 2010 01:08PM

After a 7-4 win in Chicago on Friday are the Oiler forwards starting to feel comfortable? Sam Gagner and Andrew Cogliano scored their first goals of the season, while Ales Hemsky, Jordan Eberle, Magnus Paajarvi and Taylor Hall each had two points. The entire forward group has had a bit more bounce in their step since Friday, and they hope to continue it tonight in the 200th regular season game between the Oilers and Canucks.

The Oilers all-time record v. the Nucks is 104-68-19-8 (19 ties came before the shootout). Tonight also marks the 100th home game v. Vancouver where the Oilers are 59-29-7-4. Many of those wins came in the in the 1980s, but since the lockout the Oilers have still been good v. the Canucks at home going 10-7-1, including going 2-0-1 last year v. Vancouver.

 For many the Battle of Alberta is still the main rivarly for the Oilers, but I'd argue that in the past five years the games v. the Canucks have more animosity, chippiness and action. The Canucks have a lot of skill with the Sedin Sisters, but they have lots of skill, grit and overall piss-you-off-ness in the likes of Ryan Kesler, Kevin Bieksa, Rick Rypien and Alex Burrows.

Burrows will make his season debut tonight, and you know he'll be amped up to deliver a cheap shot or two. The Oilers seem to enjoy the chippiness and in most games v. the Canucks they have responded well and delivered as many  blows/cheap shots as they've recieved. Outside of the first and last games v. Calgary this year, the Oilers haven't been involved in many physical affairs, but tonight we should see the intensity heighten.

DISCIPLINE NEEDED

The Oilers need to be disciplined though, because if they take too many penalties the Sedins will destroy them. Daniel, seven goals and 12 points, and Henrik, no goals and 11 points, are once again leading the Canucks offensive charge early this season. They will have Burrow back on their RW tonight, and the Oilers have to make sure they don't allow Burrows to agitate and become the focus, or that will just give the Sedins more room to work their magic.

The Sedins have killed the Oilers the past few years, especially on the PP.

The Canucks aren't 9th on the PP at an efficient 21%, and the Sedins have five and four points respectively. The Canucks have only had 38 PP chances in ten games, while the Oilers have had 43 in their nine games. The Sedins along with Christian Ehrhoff control the Canucks PP and their puck movement and ability to read off one another might be the best in the league.

STICK AND SMARTS NOT SHOULDERS? 

Ryan Whitney and Tom Gilbert will see a lot of the Sedins tonight, and Whitney might have to talk to his stick often to ensure it knows where he wants it to go. We always hear how you should try to play the Sedins, Sidney Crosby or Alex Ovechkin tough and hard, but according to Whitney that isn't the best philosophy.

"I think they have the best chemistry as a pair of any players in the game. They've grown up together and know exactly where the other is all the time. They move so well off the puck. They move it and they never stand still, then they get to another area and the other one throws it back to where his brother is going. They have that sixth sense and that's why when they move it you can't let them create space and you have to take away their time.

"It's all about having a good stick. Those guys want you to go the them. If you saw Datsyuk score a goal v. Nashville the other night, he waited in the corner for the D-man to come at him, and when he did, boom Datsyuk is off him and scored. Those guys you don't go right at him, you have a good stick and good position because they are too good to try and put through the boards. Unless you are Chara, other guys just can't do it consistently."

Whitney and Gilbert aren't overly physical, but they skate well and Whitney, especially, has a good stick so expect to see them match up often against the Sedins. Five-on-five they are very dangerous. Burrows scored 26 EV strength last year, and added five SH and only four on the PP. Despite playing his first game in over five months, Burrows is someone the Oilers need to be aware of.

Tom Renney won't make any changes to the lineup that beat Chicago.

Paajarvi/Gagner/Hemsky
Hall/Horcoff/Eberle
Penner/Cogliano/Brule
Jones/Fraser/Stortini

Whitney/Gilbert
Smid/Foster
Peckham/Strudwick

Khabibulin

Roberto Luongo will play tonight after a 3-0 shutout win last night v. New Jersey.

D.Sedin/H.Sedin/Burrows
Raymond/Kesler/Samuelsson
Torres/Malhotra/Hansen
Glass/Schaefer/Desbiens

Edler/Ehrhoff
Bieksa/Alberts
Ballard/Rome

The Canucks have lots of skill, but a lot guys who like to run around like Glass, Hansen, Burrows, Kesler and even their bottom four D-men are physical. The Oilers will need a solid, energetic game from their 4th line tonight, and will need Smid to play more in-your-face than we have seen so far this season.

JDD AND JACQUES TO OKC

Jeff Deslauriers cleared waivers today and will head to Oklahoma and will play this weekend, and he will J.F Jacques on the flight with him. Jacques told me he is going down to OKC on a conditioning stint. He is hoping to play four or five games. He doesn't have to clear waivers, because he is on a conditioning stint, but he remains on the 23-man roster so the Oilers can't recall anyone. 

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#2 jeanshorts
November 02 2010, 03:27PM
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Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, and hide yo husband, cause Rick Rypien's shakin' errbody.

Is it wrong of me to hope the entire Canucks team hits a slick patch while walking into the bowels or Rexall, simultaneously breaking all of their ankles beyond repair?

I guess the silver lining here is O'Brien won't be around to grease up Oil City after the game and impregnate some poor, overweight woman.

I COULD DO THIS ALL DAY!*

*no I can't.

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#3 JimmyOiler
November 02 2010, 01:31PM
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The Towel Boy wrote:

DIE CANUCKS!! DIIIIIEEEE!!!

I'm assuming this is German for "The Canucks, the!!!"

Nobody who speaks German could be an evil man...

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#4 bingofuel
November 02 2010, 02:17PM
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I will be at this game, and no matter what happens, I promise to vomit on a pretty girl's shoes.

GOOOoooooooooOOOOILERS

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#5 The Towel Boy
November 02 2010, 01:22PM
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DIE CANUCKS!! DIIIIIEEEE!!!

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#6 Senator Theo
November 02 2010, 10:38PM
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@NateInVegas wrote:

I was off by a goal sorry...

Predicting 4-2 and being off by a goal would probably cover 60-70% of hockey games.

That gets you 3-2, 5-2, 4-1,and 4-3. LOL - not exactly Nostradamus.

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#7 jimmycrackcorn
November 02 2010, 02:44PM
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Predictions:

#1 Hall gets his 3rd through to his 7th goals

#2 Gagner beats up everyone once and the Sedin's twice!

#3 Horc gets the hat trick, one off foot (no clear kicking motion), one off his back and one off his face

#4 People wake up tomorrow and still hate on Horc because it went off his face all wrong.

Should be a great game.

Man I just hate the Can-uks!

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#8 Blair
November 02 2010, 01:13PM
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Hopefully Stortinit will put a FIST in Burrows jaw tonight...

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#9 Soft Hands McSteeley - FIST Movement
November 02 2010, 01:18PM
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UHHHHFHFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!

what happened to my FIST!?!?!?**

** THIS WEDDING IS HORSE SH*T

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#10 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
November 02 2010, 02:27PM
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Soft Hands McSteeley - FIST Movement wrote:

UHHHHFHFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!

what happened to my FIST!?!?!?**

** THIS WEDDING IS HORSE SH*T

R.I.P FIST

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#11 jeanshorts
November 02 2010, 04:14PM
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@Ender

Imma let you finish, but Antoine Dodson has the best remix video OF ALL TIME!

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#12 Archaeologuy
November 02 2010, 09:34PM
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Exciting last place hockey quota all but met except the lack of fisticuffs.

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#13 Slumpbreaker
November 03 2010, 08:59AM
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positivebrontefan wrote:

First career hatrick against us! Why is it every body sets records and breaks streaks and so on against us?

Why???

Ill tell you why..the oilers are the "fat girls" of the NHL and anyone (former friend or foe) always breaks their slump against the Oil.

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#14 Archaeologuy
November 02 2010, 07:34PM
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Another ex-Oiler. Yikes.

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#15 @NateInVegas
November 02 2010, 09:56PM
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@NateInVegas wrote:

Vancouver 4-2.

Edmonton will get owned on the dot.

With the Canucks playing last night it'll look closer than it should be.

Wouldn't be shocked to see this game get ugly.

I was off by a goal sorry...

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#16 David S
November 03 2010, 12:21AM
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Senator Theo wrote:

Predicting 4-2 and being off by a goal would probably cover 60-70% of hockey games.

That gets you 3-2, 5-2, 4-1,and 4-3. LOL - not exactly Nostradamus.

Or as the boys down in accounting call it..."Nostrodumbass".

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#17 David S
November 03 2010, 12:38AM
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TonyT wrote:

What happened with Stortini? Isn't he supposed to the muscle when Mac's not around?

I was at the game. He was really chirpin' it up but nobody wanted to go and you don't take stupid penalties when your team is behind. Besides, he worked his butt off and set up Jones for a goal. You can't ask much more from the guy.

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#18 Ryan
November 02 2010, 01:13PM
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I can't stand the Canucks, but the games are normally very exciting...Go OIL...they win 4-3.

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#19 NsxZero
November 02 2010, 01:26PM
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Multi-point night for Horcoff with one goal going off his shins. Called it!

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#20 jayoilfan
November 02 2010, 01:32PM
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I really really hate them canucks. Even more than the Flames. I've lived in Calgary for the last 11 years and my hatred of the Flames has dropped considerably but I think my loathing for the canucks has increased ten fold.

Especially the Sedin's. Is it wrong to hate some based on the way they look. They might be really ncii guys and all but I'd still like to punch them repeatedly in the face. I don't know why but I do feel that way.

Here's to Halls 3'rd of the season!

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#21 Golden Seals
November 02 2010, 01:38PM
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Canucks cycle game will be a real challenge for the Oil's D tonight. Sedin's seem to control the puck on every shift.

DAMN YOU SEDIN SISTERS

also holds fist in air shaking wildly

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#22 sean17
November 02 2010, 01:40PM
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I would feel better with McIntyre in the line-up to control Torres bull crap. We know how Raffi would love to cheap shot one of our rookies.

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#23 Wax Man Riley
November 02 2010, 01:42PM
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JimmyOiler wrote:

I'm assuming this is German for "The Canucks, the!!!"

Nobody who speaks German could be an evil man...

Ahhh.... There is a Simpson's quote for every occasion. Well played sir..

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#24 AussieOil
November 02 2010, 01:53PM
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Prediction: First Oil Hat Trick of The Year! Can't tell you who it is though, that would take away the suprise.

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#25 Dan the Man
November 02 2010, 02:00PM
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I hate to say it and I hope I'm wrong but I don't see tonight going well. I just see us getting crushed on special teams again.

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#26 Dan the Man
November 02 2010, 02:00PM
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God D@mn, that Kenny Rogers is one creepy looking b@st@rd.

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#27 PabstBR55
November 02 2010, 02:35PM
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If only the Dionne quintuplets played hockey. That would've have been a real mindscrew to the opposing team.

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#28 laughing pug
November 02 2010, 02:51PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

I don't accept just a blah fist...It adds nothing...You're wittier than that, so only comments with a fitting FIST will be used on my article..

That's what Henrik said

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#29 Senator Theo
November 02 2010, 02:51PM
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I hope the rookies light Luongo up like a Halloween tree tonight.

I think it's too early for Christmas references.

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#30 Quicksilver ballet
November 02 2010, 02:54PM
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Lord helps us all if the Oilers hang a lickin on the Cannots. After dissing the Blackhacks and then the Canucks...undergarment sales would go through the roof again.

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#31 PaperDesigner
November 02 2010, 03:01PM
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It is nice to go into a game and not know what is going to happen. Last year, it was not a question of whether a superior team like Vancouver or Chicago would destroy the Oilers, but merely a matter of how many. I am intrigued; it could as easily be 7-2 Oilers as 7-2 Canucks. The long-term fan in me is worried they might be too improved to get another lottery pick, but it is fun to be a fan again for more than the soap opera storylines.

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#32 Milli
November 02 2010, 03:05PM
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I HATE the cannots. They are some of the worst bandwagon jumping luongo wanting to trade losers around! Man I wish I was gonna be there to puke on a pretty gurls shoe also!!!!

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#33 D-Man
November 02 2010, 03:07PM
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jimmycrackcorn wrote:

Predictions:

#1 Hall gets his 3rd through to his 7th goals

#2 Gagner beats up everyone once and the Sedin's twice!

#3 Horc gets the hat trick, one off foot (no clear kicking motion), one off his back and one off his face

#4 People wake up tomorrow and still hate on Horc because it went off his face all wrong.

Should be a great game.

Man I just hate the Can-uks!

Who says "jimmycrackcorn and I don't care"??... Well said, sir... Quick question - does Gagner beat up the entire Canuck roster before or after he works over Smackintrye to assume the team enforcer role??.

4-3 Oilers; Shootout Win (by Horcoff)

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#34 Wreck'em Peckham
November 02 2010, 03:09PM
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These Sedin twins are quite talented. If they keep this up they have the chance to become really good players someday. I don't think fisticuffs will hurt Vancity tonite, its big, bruising bodychecks that do damage. This is where Peckham, out of nowhere, will become a lethal weapon for the Oilers this year. You want to run around? Maybe one of your squirts gets laid out at centre ice. That is damaging to the psyche of a team. Its not the nukes in the common age that will do the scaring, its the ICBMs at centre ice. (InterContinental Balistic Missiles)

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#35 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
November 02 2010, 03:27PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

I don't accept just a blah fist...It adds nothing...You're wittier than that, so only comments with a fitting FIST will be used on my article..

Fair comment, only the the finest FISTS shall be used.

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#36 OILERSORDEATH
November 02 2010, 03:30PM
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I think we all agree on something, we hate those Mothersucking Casucks just as much if not more than the flamers!! Its gotten so bad I have to DVR the games then forward through the Casuck goals just so I dont break the goddamn remote!!

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#37 DK0
November 02 2010, 03:47PM
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@jeanshorts

Excellent Bed Intruder reference.

For those who don't know what they are missing

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#38 Aleslav Smidsky
November 02 2010, 03:54PM
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I hate the Canucks, I wish they would trade for Horcoff.

My Ninja Paajarvi will get the hat-trick a few of you are foreseeing.

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#39 Ender
November 02 2010, 04:10PM
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DK0 wrote:

Excellent Bed Intruder reference.

For those who don't know what they are missing

That stuff is HILARIOUS!

"You aw' so dumb. You aw' really dumb. Fo' real."
(Dumbest Guy on the Planet)

Ahhhh, good times, good times indeed.

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#40 Soft Hands McSteeley - FIST Movement
November 02 2010, 04:18PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

I don't accept just a blah fist...It adds nothing...You're wittier than that, so only comments with a fitting FIST will be used on my article..

Well how about some notice of this totalitarian control you have imposed over the Nation??

Ask Wanye to explain FYOB to you and you'll get a whitty FIST.

**Run's away SQUEEing loudly

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#41 knobert
November 02 2010, 04:23PM
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DK0 wrote:

Excellent Bed Intruder reference.

For those who don't know what they are missing

seconded

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#42 Mouse
November 02 2010, 04:41PM
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jayoilfan wrote:

I really really hate them canucks. Even more than the Flames. I've lived in Calgary for the last 11 years and my hatred of the Flames has dropped considerably but I think my loathing for the canucks has increased ten fold.

Especially the Sedin's. Is it wrong to hate some based on the way they look. They might be really ncii guys and all but I'd still like to punch them repeatedly in the face. I don't know why but I do feel that way.

Here's to Halls 3'rd of the season!

Only hockey could bringa bunch of men (and some women too) to loath and hate two red headed, rich, twin sisters...

I love them redheads.* Red is my favorite colour.

*Except sedin sisters

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#43 jeanshorts
November 02 2010, 04:44PM
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@Mouse

Swedish twins at that!

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#45 Ender
November 02 2010, 05:11PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Imma let you finish, but Antoine Dodson has the best remix video OF ALL TIME!

I know I will destroy several people's opinion of me by saying this, but . . .

[clears throat, shuffles nervously]

. . . well, that was just plain awesome. Props to JS for bringing enlightenment to the world.

Now don't let this go to your head. You have that other website to stretch your epeen on. You know - the one that I would never, ever visit, let alone post anonymously on . . .

[clears throat, continues to shuffle nervously]

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#46 Gerald R. Ford
November 02 2010, 05:32PM
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I love Antoine Dodson's remix as much as I hate the 'nucks. A LOT. They are so dumb. So dumb. So dumb. Lock up the sisters, too.

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#47 Chris.
November 02 2010, 05:48PM
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Game Day Prediction: Canucks continue to struggle on the road. 5-3 Oiler win.

Obvious Game Prediction: Burrows' return to action is marred by rust and timing issues; he is somewhat responsible for limiting the Sisters to a two goal performance. Torres with the other... Who scores for the Oilers? The four kids of course! (Eberle with 2)

Not-So-Obvious Game Day Prediction: Joey Moss is seen flipping off Kesler... (Even the lovable and innocent Joey can tell that Kesler is a total Douche-Bag)

*Disclaimer... This is not an actual report. It is soely intended for my own entertainment. Do not base your Pro Line picks on the info provided. Do not write angry letters to Joey Moss.

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#48 sizedoesmatter
November 02 2010, 06:30PM
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Oil will win in a shoot out Horcoff and Eberle seal the deal.

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#49 @NateInVegas
November 02 2010, 06:32PM
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Vancouver 4-2.

Edmonton will get owned on the dot.

With the Canucks playing last night it'll look closer than it should be.

Wouldn't be shocked to see this game get ugly.

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#50 Slats
November 02 2010, 06:37PM
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Good article and take from Whitney.

But I think the answer to the Sedins (who are awesome to watch 6th sense is being kind!!) is a combination of the two aspects - a strong physical prescence early in the game to keep them honest so they do not dangle so much AND then a quick stick most other times (more the latter).

Gilbert will have to be at his best and have a near perfect outing for us to do well - otherwise it will be a long night!

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