AROUND THE LEAGUE: WEEK FOUR

Jason Gregor
November 04 2010 05:56PM

Scott Arniel (Right) and his teammates (R to L) Laurie Boschman, Dale Hawerchuk and Tim Watters were loving life and 7-Up in Winnipeg in the mid 1980s. Fast forward 25 years and Arniel finds himself as a rookie head coach with the Columbus Blue Jackets. He isn't promoting 7-Up and he's replaced his teammates with assistant coaches, Brad Berry, Bob Boughner and Dan Hinote. You think the 18, 19 and 20-year-old rookies have pressure in the NHL, imagine being a rookie head coach on a team that has never won a playoff game.

After 730 games in the NHL, Arniel played 530 in the now defunct IHL with stops in San Diego, Houston, Utah and playing his final three years with the Manitoba Moose. He retired in 1999 and became an assistant the next season in Manitoba. After three years he moved to Buffalo to work alongside Lindy Ruff for four years. In 2006, he left Buffalo to become the head coach for the Moose in the AHL.

In four season he went 181-106-33 with the Moose and this past summer he was named the 5th full-time head coach in Blue Jackets history. Gary Agnew (five games) and Claude Noel (24 games) were interim head coaches in Columbus. I caught up with Arniel to find out his coaching influences, philosophies and how he is handling the pressure of being an NHL head coach.

 JG:        As a player in the NHL way back to your Jets days, was there one coach that was very influential and made you say, ‘that is the kind of coach I would like to be or aspire to be later on in my coaching career’.
 
SA:         You know what, actually when I was playing up until maybe the last couple of years I didn’t want nothing to do with coaching. I think a lot of coaches would probably say that, ex-players would say that. I think what happens is you’re in the game so long that you want to stay in it and your love for the game continues to grow. I mean I had some great coaches. I had Tom Watt there in Winnipeg when I first went there and I had Scotty Bowman, Rick Dudley - I had some real good people who helped me along kind of as a player. But you know what, I kind of think that starts to grow on you and you start to pay attention as you get older and these are some good examples of people that coached me, but I also had some great people that I worked with once I became an assistant coach. 
 
JG:         Scotty Bowman, what made him such a great coach in your estimation?
 
SA:         Scotty was a really good judge of talent and a real good judge of his team; especially game day, when the games got going, Scotty could tell who was on and who wasn’t. His ability to adjust on the bench and get the match ups that he wanted, get better players against the other team’s weaker players, his preparation. Scotty was a guy that always lived on the edge. He was always trying to be one step ahead of the next guy when it came to style of play, his thoughts were outside the box , and we know he’s highly involved in a lot of the rule changes over the years and that’s always been Scotty - he really thinks the game, you know he really does get a lot out of his players and he was a good guy to learn from.
 
JG:          Now that you are in the NHL, I hear from a lot of coaches how it’s really changed, and how the human element of coaching is there much more than when you played. Is there a distinct difference in how coaches interact and treat players now?
 
SA:          It’s huge. I think that before it was always kind of a dictatorship where the coaches were the ones that had the hammer and they were the ones that were ‘do it this way, or you don’t play at all’ and as a coach if you didn’t like the player, you just told the GM and you got rid of the guy. Now it’s - certainly with salary cap and these players, the amount of money they are making - just the way the youth of these players, you really have to make sure you are involved with them, that you understand them, that you communicate with them, try to be not an authority figure, but you want to be some sort of a friend. You want to be some kind of a parent with some of these guys, so you really have to get to know them more than just as hockey players.
 
JG:          How do you go about doing that, because you still have to maintain the coaching element, but you kind of have to become a friend where they trust you, especially  your first year in the NHL where the stakes are a lot higher, how do you wade through that?
 
SA:         Well the big thing for me is when I talk - you know I phoned all of the players this summer and my first conversations I had with these guys, it started with, where do you live, are you married, you got kids, your parents, siblings - all that stuff. I knew a bit about where they played their junior/college hockey and asked about their experiences there. We talked about maybe some of the guys that have educations, have they continued on. Kind of get it away from the standard hockey stuff that we talk about everyday when they come to the rink. I’ll talk to players about what they’ve done in the past, what do they do with their spare time whatever it might be, it doesn’t always have to be about the game or the game that night or whatever. Sometimes, you just have to get personal with these guys. 

I’ve always said to them that the door is open and that if they have a personal problem - I’ve had this in the past where I’ve had players that have lost a parent - if it’s Cancer or some kind of sickness or whatever. I’ve had guys that have had issues off the ice - different things like that. You want them to come to you, you don’t want them to fear you, you want to help them, you want to let them know you are more than just a coach; they’re your friend. You’re trying to get these guys to be the best they can be and if they believe in you, that certainly goes a long way to growing. I think that can be used at any age. It can be used with kids in minor hockey, junior hockey, College hockey or whatever, right up to pros. If the players know that you’re their friend and you have their best interests at heart, then more than likely you’ll get the best out of them and you’re relationships will grow. 
 
JG:          You had a unique experience when you were playing - you were a player/coach for one year in 1995/1996 with the Houston Aeros. Did that give you any insight into how you would like coaching and how were those dynamics - being an assistant coach and a teammate?
 
SA:          I really enjoyed it because it was the first time I got involved with practice planning, watching videos, breaking games down, doing scoring chances and helping prepare the games. I didn’t like it because I was a player too and you kinda had to walk a tight rope there. But, it was great experience and it really got me started into going to coaching seminars. I played - I think it was three more years after that, not as a player/assistant coach, I went back as a player for three more years, but all summer I went to coaching seminars and to coaching clinics. I went to listen to other coaches speak and if it was someone I knew, I would ask questions and it really got me started coming down the road to becoming a coach.
 
JG:         You took a unique path with the fact that you were in the National Hockey League as an assistant coach in Buffalo, but left and went to the AHL so you could be a head coach. There is a lot of young guys out there - whether they are in Bantam, Midget AAA and Junior A who are looking to go to the WHL or OHL, they look and say ‘ok, if I go to the next step, I might only get to be an assistant coach.’ Did you feel that your ultimate goal was to be a head coach and the only way to better yourself to be ready to be an NHL head coach, was to do it at a lower level?
 
SA:I always wanted to be a head guy. I wanted to run my own show and after being a player and my aspirations to make it to the NHL, the same thing happened as a coach. I wanted to be right where I am today and be one of those 30 guys. I phoned almost everybody that I knew in hockey; General Managers and coaches and I asked them all, 'what is the best way to become a head coach? What is the best advice you can give me?' It was amazing how different the answers were from NHL GM's, American League guys, coaches and assistant coaches.   
 
So, what I found to be number one; Was to be patient. You’ve got to put your time in, don’t try to fast track. What happens with people that fast track, that take one job after another, after another, is that you don’t build relationships, you don’t grow as a coach, you can get caught in the wrong spot, and end up out the door and never have a job again. I think that I knew I had a lot to learn and Randy Carlyle offered me an assistant job after I was done playing to work for him and it was a case that I worked three years with him and really got the feel for what it was like. It was the year we got involved with the Vancouver Canucks and I got to see the other side, what it was like to be with a development team. From there, I had the opportunity to go to Buffalo and work there as an assistant and working with Lindy Ruff and it was a case where I was really learning my trade and trying to do stuff in the summertime to get better, but I knew after working with Lindy that I wanted to be a head coach. 
 
I really knew that’s where I wanted to be. I wanted to be the decision maker at the end of the day. For me to do that, again I asked Lindy lots of advice. I wasn’t going to get that by being an assistant coach in the NHL - it may happen, but you don’t want to get it in the way it usually happens. Where your best friend, who Lindy Ruff was, the guy I admire, I didn’t want him to get fired for me to get my chance as a head coach. So the opportunity to go back to the AHL, which is a very good league to me, was the perfect starting point. It was great family wise, we had a home in Winnipeg, I obviously interviewed for that job a couple times before. For me, it was the perfect scenario - in a great league, great learning league, you could run your own bench, do everything - it really helped me prepare for where I am today. I went through all these different experiences that you really need to do as a coach. 
 
JG:        How do you know if you have what it takes to be a head coach? How can you tell if a guy has the dynamics to be a head coach or maybe just be a really successful assistant coach?
 
SA:         You know that is such a great statement there - How do you know you are head coaching material? I think you have to experience it. I think there are guys that are tremendous assistant coaches in the NHL and the American league, and even in junior, that probably wouldn’t have success if they went and took the job as a head coach. Maybe they don’t have the personalities, maybe they don’t want to be the guy that has all the pressure, they may not want to have to live on the edge. You’re always in this business, the hired to be fired scenario, but I think that, for me, it was like I was driven thw same way I was a player to make it to the NHL ever since I was a young kid. 
 
As I continued to coach year after year after year and I’m what, 11 years into it - my desire, my dream was to get to the NHL, to run my own show, to be the boss. Be like Alain Vigneault, Lindy Ruff and Randy Carlyle. Guys I worked with to try to emulate them and do like those guys. And you know what, it’s just part of the drive that’s in you and it’s no different than trying to do anything in life, if you want it bad enough, you go out there and work at it, and I think there’s people that will accept - and it’s no shot to them - some people accept that that’s what they are, an assistant coach. Me, I just felt I was a head coach and once I got to become a head coach, especially in Manitoba, I knew that I could do the job if I put the work and the effort in.
 
JG:         You mentioned you interviewed for the Manitoba Moose job a few times before you got it, and I’m guessing if you’re not a good interviewee you might never get the job. How do you calm down? What tips do you have for coaches when they go through that interviewing process at any level?
 
SA:         Now I think that’s very important, it’s not something that you just wing. That you think about it, that you ask advice, that you ask the coaches that have come before you, if you can - I mean you might be in minor hockey where you may be going before a panel of four or five people that are on a panel. Have an idea maybe of others that have gone through it and maybe some of the questions that are going to be thrown your way. If it’s a junior job, whatever it might be moving up the ladder , be prepared and have an idea of what might be coming from that GM, the style of play. Know the players, know the team. Have an idea, if it’s working with young kids, how you are going to develop your team, how are you going to make it fun for your team, how are you going to teach these guys to first of all - play hard and have fun, but also at the end of the day want to sign up again and have you as their coach the next year.
 
                So, there’s lots of ways you can prepare for it and there’s lots of vehicles out there, lots of books, Hockey Canada, USA Hockey has lots of things that can help you along the way, but don’t just go into an interview and try to wing it. I’ve interviewed coaches, now that I’m a head guy, I’ve interviewed guys as assistant coaches and I can tell there’s guys walking in there just going on reputation, just thinking it would be a walk through and these guys, right from the get go, have shown me that they are not prepared. I’ve had other guys who have come in and just blow the doors off. They were so prepared, were so real as a person, that you really have to take the time and listen. Those are the ones that you interview maybe a second time or third time and get a really good feel for.
 
JG:          It’s very early I know, and you’re off to a good start, but being a former NHL player, has there been anything that has caught you off guard about being an NHL head coach compared to any other coaching job you’ve done.
 
SA:         As a head guy, the pressure to win now in the NHL is absolutely amazing; the pressure from the ownership, the pressure from your fans and obviously the pressure in the dressing room amongst the players. In October, there is no build up, there is no time anymore to get your feet underneath you where you can hopefully be better in November or hopefully be better in December. There’s so many good teams, especially in the western conference. You have to eliminate seven good teams, you have to be on all the time. So, it means that when you come to the rink, your game has to be on, your coaching has to be. You have to make sure you are crossing all the t’s and dotting all the i’s, and making sure the players have all the information they need so that they’re prepared. That is very time consuming and I knew it was going to be that way, but I’ve really been hit here with a big wave of pressure to be in the playoffs. And it’s amazing that you’re talking about that ten games into it, but you’re looking at the standing boards early on. You’re nine, ten games into it;  and you’re always looking to see what people are doing.
 

 ICE WOMEN OF THE WEEK

In keeping with our rookie theme I introduce you to two rookies in Nashville. The Predators have the Liquid Ice Girls and the Predators Dancers. Chasity is a rookie Ice Girl, and good news all you smart Internet nerds her favourite show is The Big Bang Theory.

 

Not to be out done by a Liquid Ice Girl, Tandra represents the Predator Dancers quite nicely.The Dancer's outfit definitely has more of a Texas feel than the Ice Girls ensemble.

 

 

RANDOM THOUGHTS

  • Brian Burke ripped Leaf fans this week calling them, okay only the ones who booed Dion Phaneuf, "A disgrace". A touch sensitive are we Mr. Burke? If booing a player is a disgrace, what does he call charging more than $200/seat to watch a 29th place team? Or giving Phaneuf the captaincy when he hasn't been consistent for two years. Burke and the coaches put all the pressure on Phaneuf by giving him the "C", and with that pressure comes higher expectations from the fans. He should have known that.
     
  • Sidney Crosby had the 5th fight of his career last night, getting a TKO decision over the Stars' Matt Niskanen. Crosby did pretty well in his first NHL fight back in 2007 v. Andrew Ference. The crazy part was that Crosby dropped the gloves with Ference when his team was leading 3-0. Last night Crosby was annoyed with his Pens' trailing 4-1, and he took out his frustration on Niskanen. I like it when the superstars drop the mitts.

 

 

  • After all the great players that came through Edmonton, Raffi Torres of all players became the first former Oiler to score a hat-trick v. the Oilers when he potted three on Tuesday night. It was Torres' first three-goal game since junior.
     
  • When the Canucks get Dan Hamhuis and Sami Salo back they could have Kevin Bieksa and Keith Ballard in their 3rd pairing. Mike Gillis will have a D-man to dangle at the trade deadline, and unlike last year you have to think the Canucks will try and improve their team via a trade down the stretch.
     
  • Speaking of trades, during the summer I wrote the Flames should consider dealing Jarome Iginla. Many ripped me for that, but here we are a month into the season and many are wondering if the Flames should do it. The Flames aren't good enough to go deep in the playoffs, so why not deal him and get some youth in the organization?
     
  • Tim Thomas is almost unconscious right now. He is 7-0 with a ridiculous 0.71 GAA, .977 SV%, three shutouts and he has an assist. Thomas has responded incredibly well from the challenge of losing his starting job for the 2nd straight season to Tukka Rask. The dilemma for the Bruins is Thomas' age and contract. He is 36 and has two more years after this season at $5 million. Rask is an RFA at the end of 2012, so I don't think they need to make a hasty decision, but you wonder how Rask will react to being second fiddle this year, and possibly next.
     
  • The Sabres are off to their worst start in years at 3-8-2, and you wonder if Darcy Regier or Lindy Ruff will be on the hot seat if things don't improve. The Sabres were upset by the Bruins in the first round last year becaue they didn't have enough size and grit, but this off-season Regier did nothing to change that, and now the Sabres are even worse. For years Regier has made very few changes to his team during the course of the season. He believes you pick you team in October and stick with them. He might have to change his thinking if he wants to keep his job, or unless he is prepared to fire Ruff. The latter seems highly unlikely.
     
  • Goes to show what I know. I openly questioned the Thrashers when Craig Ramsey announced that Dustin Byfuglien would play defence instead of forward, despite scoring nine goals for the Hawks during the Cup run last year. Clearly the Thrashers knew what they were doing because Byfuglien leads defenceman in goals, five, and is tied for first in points, 12, with Duncan Keith and Nick Lidstrom. Byfuglien has made the switch back to the blueline look easier than it is. He is playing 22 minutes a night, and with his size, you can expect his minutes to increase. 
     

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#1 ubermiguel
November 04 2010, 06:02PM
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Byfuglien's a hot and cold player. No way he keeps up that pace and stays fist in D-man scoring.

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#2 wangtaco
November 04 2010, 06:11PM
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Watching both of those fights, I notice how exceptional Crosby is on his skates. He's willing to throw too, but he has such good balance (and strength) that he absolutely tosses the other guy around, catches him off balance a lot, and then can pump in some shots. Solid scrapper actually; good on him.

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#3 Team Hall
November 04 2010, 06:33PM
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On offensive forward playing defense, puts up lots of points, but can't play defense. Hmmmm, sounds like Marc Andre Bergeron to me. You have to be able to cover your own end. Points are secondary when you are a defenseman.

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#4 MattL
November 04 2010, 06:49PM
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I think it's fair to say that Chasity's parents didn't know the meaning OR spelling of the word "chastity".

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#5 Jodes
November 04 2010, 07:18PM
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Wow.. I certainly can't wait til next Saturday when I'm in Nasvhille to see the Preds vs the Hawks..

Tasty.. very tasty!

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#6 I tried it at home
November 04 2010, 07:33PM
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Nashville is now officially my second team... not the guys on the skates though... the other, more, um, interesting ones. I understand there were some word things along with your pictures of my new favorites, although I dont actually remember any

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#7 Rogue
November 04 2010, 07:34PM
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GREGOR

Props man, Double double props.

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#8 David S
November 04 2010, 07:40PM
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Chasity! Tandra!

...oh look, a great interview with Scott Arneil something something...

TANDRA!!!

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#9 jeanshorts
November 04 2010, 08:07PM
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David S wrote:

Chasity! Tandra!

...oh look, a great interview with Scott Arneil something something...

TANDRA!!!

If there's one thing I've noticed that most ice girls share, it's their horribly weird names. Tandra? What the hell is a Tandra?

Not that it matters....... *fapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfap*

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#10 Chris.
November 04 2010, 08:27PM
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http://video.predators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=742&id=81485

Preds Cheerleader Game Day video. My favorite part is when the four girls are primping themselves in the washroom and one of them says: "We're between periods right now."

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#11 Horcsky
November 04 2010, 09:30PM
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Liquid Ice Girls? So . . . Water Girls?

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#12 Mr. K
November 04 2010, 09:43PM
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Has anyone read this?!?!

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2010/11/04/kelly_prospects/

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#13 Rogue
November 04 2010, 10:19PM
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Mr. K wrote:

Has anyone read this?!?!

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2010/11/04/kelly_prospects/

What a door knob. Obviously he has seen none of the Oil games. Hall and Seguin would have to go back to Juniors as they are not eligible for AHL. Seguin is in an ideal situation as a 3rd line center, no pressure. Kadri has to earn a spot? What a homer, its not as if Toronto has the talent of San Jose, JTDC! I guess we should of sent Hall to Juniors, Eberle and Paajarvi to the AHL, as Toronto and Kelley is all wise and knowing.

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#14 Senator Theo
November 04 2010, 10:30PM
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Tim Thomas has Tukka way any chance Rask had of winning the starting job this year.

*rimshot*

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#15 David S
November 04 2010, 10:37PM
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Chris. wrote:

http://video.predators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=742&id=81485

Preds Cheerleader Game Day video. My favorite part is when the four girls are primping themselves in the washroom and one of them says: "We're between periods right now."

Two things

1) That was a group of dummmmmb girls. Hot but dumb.

2) Awesome the number of fans streaming in for the games. There must have been...tens of them! Noticeable because I was at the last home game here on Tuesday and almost got a psychosis being crushed by the mobs in our sardine can.

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#16 Tayranchula
November 04 2010, 10:42PM
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Hey Gregor just wondering how Kyle Bigos is doing if you have any clue?

There is all this talk about the Oil and there possible D prospects (Plante, Petry, Maricin) but I havent heard any talks of this young prospect.

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#17 Freezing Weather Fan
November 04 2010, 10:49PM
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Rogue wrote:

What a door knob. Obviously he has seen none of the Oil games. Hall and Seguin would have to go back to Juniors as they are not eligible for AHL. Seguin is in an ideal situation as a 3rd line center, no pressure. Kadri has to earn a spot? What a homer, its not as if Toronto has the talent of San Jose, JTDC! I guess we should of sent Hall to Juniors, Eberle and Paajarvi to the AHL, as Toronto and Kelley is all wise and knowing.

The way I read it, Kelly's saying that all 3 teams are in different situations, so the way they handle their rookies should be different. Sounds to me like he thinks the three teams are handling their rookies the right way and he just thinks the Toronto media shouldn't be comparing the way Kadri is being handled to the way Hall and Seguin are, because it's just not the same.

I don't see any real Oil hate or toronto love there.

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#18 Horcsky
November 04 2010, 11:07PM
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Rogue wrote:

What a door knob. Obviously he has seen none of the Oil games. Hall and Seguin would have to go back to Juniors as they are not eligible for AHL. Seguin is in an ideal situation as a 3rd line center, no pressure. Kadri has to earn a spot? What a homer, its not as if Toronto has the talent of San Jose, JTDC! I guess we should of sent Hall to Juniors, Eberle and Paajarvi to the AHL, as Toronto and Kelley is all wise and knowing.

I definately agree with FWF's take on this one. I don't see any Oil hate in there. The only thing I disagree with in the article is where Kelly says that Hall was brutal the first 8 games. Pretty sure no one who watched the games would call Hall brutal.

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#19 Matt Henderson
November 05 2010, 12:14AM
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Fact: Even in my fantasies, Tandra can tell I dont have any money and ignores me.

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#20 SmellOfVictory
November 05 2010, 12:25AM
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@Horcsky

From what I've seen against the Flames, Hall isn't brutal given his age and expected point in the development curve, but in comparison to what is considered 'good' NHL play, he's pretty rough. But again, it is to be expected; there aren't a lot of guys who come into the NHL at 18 and do well, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was even noticeably better in the second half of the season.

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#21 treblecharger
November 05 2010, 02:23AM
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Senator Theo wrote:

Tim Thomas has Tukka way any chance Rask had of winning the starting job this year.

*rimshot*

Zing!

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#22 upper-deck-drunk
November 05 2010, 05:06AM
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Attention all Citizens!

Lynda Steele is moving to Vancouver! Her husband is taking a job with the RCMP in BC and she's moving with him.

Its a sad sad day!

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#23 Mouse
November 05 2010, 08:47AM
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I'd like to take Chasity out for a nice steak dinner, then give it to her right in her Tandra.

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#24 ubermiguel
November 05 2010, 09:09AM
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MattL wrote:

I think it's fair to say that Chasity's parents didn't know the meaning OR spelling of the word "chastity".

LOL! I totally missed the spelling of her name, must have been distracted.

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#25 Ender
November 05 2010, 09:54AM
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I don't have a big opinion one way or the other about superstars fighting; money or points shouldn't be a determining factor, but whether the guy is solid enough to take the pounding. I don't think I want Hemsky fighting, but if Kesler drops the mitts I'm fine with that.

I do, on the other hand, have an opinion of captains fighting. I think that at times they are obligated to do so, both to inspire and to stand up for their teammates. Iginla and Modano are two examples of captains I really respected, in no small part because they were never reluctant to get physical in the defense of their team. I wish Horcoff could be that kind of guy, but sadly I know that's just not part of who he is. To the point, though; if Crosby can be the same kind of captain for Pitt as Iginla is for the Flames, I don't see how that can be a bad thing.

In unrelated news, what the heck have they poured into the Gatorade bottles in St. Louis? 16 out of a possible 20 points to start the season? They are absolutely on fire so far this year and I don't see a lot of people making a fuss. If the Oilers had that kind of a record these same ten games in, we'd all be at home today celebrating the impromptu civic holiday. If the Blues can hold this pace, they will be seriously bad news for their playoff rivals this season.

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#26 PabstBR55
November 05 2010, 01:56PM
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@Ender

The Blues are the model. Be patient for a few years, develop a team identity, add a big piece and whammo.

They've also invested heavily in their defense. As such, I think Adam Larsson is the preferred #1 pick for any re-building team.

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#27 SmellOfVictory
November 05 2010, 04:17PM
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The Blues have drafted and traded really well, and their players are almost all becoming more effective by the season.

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#28 Microsoft Office 2007
November 05 2010, 09:28PM
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I just don't know about players fighting with visors on. It's not something I agree with -- but then again, in the heat of the moment, you don't really think to remove the headgear.

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