Calder Race Heating Up

Lowetide
December 03 2010 07:36AM

After three big road games, the Oilers rookies are moving up the scoring race. Although leading the league in total rookie points is not a guarantee of winning the ROY, it certainly helps. Being famous and scoring ridiculous goals that make Sportsentre's Plays of the Day/Week/Month also help. The Oilers have two strong candidates.
 

Winning the Calder would be historic for Hall or Eberle. For all the phenomenal talent that Oiler fans have watched over the years, none won the Calder (which is as ridiculous as it sounds). Maybe the hockey Gods owe us one, but it looks to me as though one of these two kids could win it outright:

  1. Jeff Skinner (CAR) 24gp, 7-12-19 -4
  2. Jordan Eberle (EDM) 25gp, 5-13-18 -1
  3. Logan Couture (SJS 24gp, 10-5-15 +2
  4. Derek Stepan 27gp, 6-9-15 -1
  5. Taylor Hall 25gp, 8-6-14 -2

There are other candidates (Shattenkirk, Subban and Carlson among the D and goalie Bobrovsky is dynamite). Having said all that, it looks like the Oilers are going to have a really good shot at winning this thing. The best chance since maybe Jason Arnott over a decade ago.

I don't like to spend a lot of time on newer stats at ON, but this is an important item. RelCorsi measures total shots for and against while specific players are on the ice. This measurement goes back decades, innovative coaches were using it in the 1970's. Here are the relCorsi's for the 5 players above. I should mention that Corsi is a tool best used to compare players on the same team, but it does show a strong trend:

  1. Hall (EDM) +14.8
  2. Eberle (EDM) +10.4
  3. Logan Couture (SJS) +9.2
  4. Derek Stepan (NYR) +3.6
  5. Jeff Skinner (CAR) +0.9

Hall and Eberle are playing against tough competition and the puck is going the right way. Music! I'm hopeful one of these young men wins some hardware, it would be a solid indicator for the future. But in reality we already have it.

Let the good times roll.

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#51 John Chambers
December 03 2010, 03:39PM
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@Crashing for Couturier

This is a valid point, CfC. Because you have rookies who are 18 (Hall & Skinner), 20 (Eberle, and Carlson), 22 (Bobrovsky), and anywhere in between, the Calder race isn't a great measuring stick for who will be the best NHL player based on performance during their first NHL season.

It would be nice to have an Oiler win the hardware, but it's a poor determinant of future success.

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#52 Zed
December 03 2010, 03:53PM
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encore wrote:

WE DONT NEED A TOP 5 PICK :D Eberle 22nd overall... and paajarvi 10th overall.

Say you were an Oiler scout and you had a choice between:

Roast chicken (pick #1) or prime rib (pick #2) -OR-

Brown mystery meat with gravy (pick #10) or the squishy stuff in that green sauce in the buffet line up (pick #11).

All four choices could be winners, but if you had to pull a Pendergast and choose one that tastes like the underside of an elephant's armpit. Which dish would you pick?

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#53 mayorpoop
December 03 2010, 04:03PM
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@zed

as soon as you said roast chicken #1 you lost me...really chicken? i mean really?

the donair meat sounds good tho....ummmmy!

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#54 Zed
December 03 2010, 04:05PM
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@mayorpoop

Ok then... Use donair meat in place of chicken.

Donair meat is still a winner in my mind.

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#55 mayorpoop
December 03 2010, 04:08PM
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thank you!

and valid point about the picks. we seem to be so concerned with the pick placement of 2010....we are forgetting about the "potential" of the team of 2010.

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#56 Zed
December 03 2010, 04:18PM
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I wonder who is the donair meat of the 2011 entry draft? Who's the squishy stuff with the green sauce?

I'm sure one day the writers on this blog can do a comparison for us.

*munches on fruit roll up*

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#57 mayorpoop
December 03 2010, 04:22PM
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my bad 2011 draft....its that banana(is this the hardest word in the world to spe1l or what jeez) hammock change clothes damn you!

stupid jpegs!

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#58 pelhem grenville
December 03 2010, 04:53PM
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Alexander Mikhaylovich Ovechkin (Russian: Александр Михайлович Овечкин; pronounced [ˈɐlʲɪkˌsɑndr ɐˈvʲetʃkɪn];

picked 1st overall & Calder Winner

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#59 pelhem grenville
December 03 2010, 05:09PM
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20cent...1st overall & calder weiner

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#60 Oilcruzer
December 03 2010, 05:53PM
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Yep, only Five plus months til the playoffs. Can't get behind on the Calder picks.

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#61 John Chambers
December 03 2010, 06:25PM
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@Oilcruzer

I've already got a pool on for Calder winners for the '11-'12 season.

Front runners are Jonathan Bernier, Neat-o Niederreiter, and whoever we're gushing over after successful completion of this year's ELPH!

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#62 Harlie
December 03 2010, 08:34PM
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Souray to MTL now that Markov is a scratch for the whole year? I can see it.

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#63 positivebrontefan
December 03 2010, 08:49PM
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Harlie wrote:

Souray to MTL now that Markov is a scratch for the whole year? I can see it.

No it won't happen. Period.

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#64 Oilcruzer
December 03 2010, 09:39PM
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Harlie wrote:

Souray to MTL now that Markov is a scratch for the whole year? I can see it.

Nah, but we could probably swing a deal for two first rounders with Burkie...or maybe Sutter... They both like to spend their cap on D.

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#65 Dan the Man
December 03 2010, 09:48PM
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Harlie wrote:

Souray to MTL now that Markov is a scratch for the whole year? I can see it.

Maybe if he didn't have to clear recallable waivers first.

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#66 Dan the Man
December 03 2010, 09:54PM
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Maybe this isn't such a bold prediction since he is tied for the lead right now but....Hall will lead the Oil in goals at the end of the season.

Book it.

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#67 DSF
December 03 2010, 11:14PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

Maybe this isn't such a bold prediction since he is tied for the lead right now but....Hall will lead the Oil in goals at the end of the season.

Book it.

With 25.

Dan Cleary is on pace for 45.

Perspective is eveything.

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#68 Oilertown
December 04 2010, 03:53AM
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Crashing for Couturier wrote:

The calder is no indicator of sucess, for example, Stamkos did not win the calder, but in retrospect, he is the most dominant rookie from that year. Horcoff is becoming a much better playmaker than I ever gave him credit for, he sets up those rookies pretty nicely, not a great shooter, but a good set up man.

That's what he's always been regarded as is a playmaker ~ says so on every year of NHL gaming~

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#69 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
December 04 2010, 07:45AM
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Harlie wrote:

Souray to MTL now that Markov is a scratch for the whole year? I can see it.

Well, if you ignore common sense and the NHL CBA, you might be on to something

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#70 Oilcruzer
December 04 2010, 08:59AM
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FYI - Tyler Innes (Buffalo) has same pts as Taylor Hall and is a plus 4... how did he not make the top 5?

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#71 Harlie
December 04 2010, 11:57AM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

Well, if you ignore common sense and the NHL CBA, you might be on to something

re-entry and a trade can't happen?

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#72 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
December 04 2010, 12:06PM
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Harlie wrote:

re-entry and a trade can't happen?

why wouldnt the team just grab him on re-entry at half price?

or, you think souray at 2+mil makes it through 29 other teams to clear re-entry?

yes, in theory, it could happen. anything "could happen". brownlee "could" win a wet t-shirt contest at diamonds tonight. Is it likely? nope. it is possible? yup

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#73 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
December 04 2010, 12:16PM
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DSF wrote:

With 25.

Dan Cleary is on pace for 45.

Perspective is eveything.

Must be feeling a little heat now that your call on Hall is looking like absolute non-sense.

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#74 Oilers89
December 04 2010, 12:27PM
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Oilcruzer wrote:

FYI - Tyler Innes (Buffalo) has same pts as Taylor Hall and is a plus 4... how did he not make the top 5?

It's because I do believe that he just scored two points last night after the article was written.

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#76 trancebond808
December 05 2010, 07:31AM
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@cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

i could not agree more. that made me laugh in a good way.

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