GDB LVIII: 11

Jason Gregor
February 10 2010 12:48PM

Who will reach lucky number 11?

The Ducks tied a franchise record with their 10th consecutive home win Monday v. the Kings, while the Oilers set a franchise record with their 10th consecutive road loss the same night. Tonight they meet for the first time this season, and if you were ever going to play Sports Select tonight might be the night to bet against the Copper and Blue.

Hell, don’t just pick them to lose, if you put down a hundred on them to lose by two you will win 110. Doubling your money is never a bad thing. I don’t condone gambling because too many people have ruined their lives over it, but taking a chance when the odds are this good, might give you an extra reason to watch the game tonight. I don’t bet very often because I suck at it, but when I look at these streaks and just how bad the Oilers are playing right now, even a conservative gambler like me is contemplating it.

In their ten-game home winning streak the Ducks have scored five goals twice, lit the lamp four times in seven games and scored three once. They are averaging 4.1 GPG in this stretch. Meanwhile the Oilers have scored a whopping ten goals in their ten-game losing skid.

If Ryan Getzlaf was playing I’d take this bet in a second, I still might do it, but the Olympian is on the shelf rehabbing his ankle and praying he will be ready to go next Tuesday when Canada plays their first game. I should also mention that the Oilers have won four straight in Anaheim, and nine of their last 12 at the house of Duck.

VETERAN PRESENCE

Getzlaf’s absence is music to the ears of the Oilers non-checking line of Ethan Moreau, Shawn Horcoff and Fernando Pisani. You can’t hide the fact those three have been terrible lately.

Horcoff is -31, Moreau is -18 in his last 32 games and Pisani has only dressed for one win this season; ONE.

I’ve had some GMs and scouts tell me there is interest in Moreau, but the way he is playing I can’t understand why. The Ducks were a team that was sniffing around a few weeks ago, so if Moreau is ever going to play well this year, you’d think it would be tonight and Sunday when the Ducks come to Edmonton.

It is clear Moreau and Pisani aren’t worried about showcasing themselves, because if they were, they’d be playing much better. At least show some emotion. Hit someone, get in a pushing match, or even better, make the correct play with the puck.

The only explanation for Pat Quinn not stapling these three to the bench is that the organization believes that opposing scouts want to see them play. I’d argue the Oilers might be better served to start giving these guys some soft minutes to try and pad their stats, or least stop them from becoming worse.

DUBNYK TO START?

It doesn’t make any sense to recall Devan Dubnyk and not start him tonight, so I’d expect to see the former first-rounder between the pipes. I do expect the Oilers to then send Dubnyk back to Springfield before the roster freeze on the 12th and have Bryan Pitton back up Deslauriers on Sunday, and then send Pitton to the ECHL. If they send him directly to the ECHL, it sounds like he doesn’t need to clear waivers so then only Deslauriers won’t be playing during the Olympic break.

At this point I’m not sure it really matters if they dress Zach Stortini or sit a forward from Monday’s loss, because Quinn can only take out one forward. Right now eight forwards deserve to take a seat in the pressbox.

After two horrendous efforts the Oilers need to show up tonight. They aren’t good enough to be expected to win, but at least compete and try to play smart. The Oilers have 12 players who will need a new contract next year, and when you throw in Steve Staios, Ethan Moreau and Robert Nilsson, who might get bought out if they don’t play well that is 15 guys who have their careers to play for. Pride should be enough to motivate them, but if it isn’t then their future career should be.

GASP! AN OILER ISN’T WORST

When times are tough, some days you need something to boost your spirits and with the Oilers in 30th place in the league, 29th in goals scored, 29th in goals against here is a list where one of their players in only 4th worst. Now this list isn’t filled with a lot of data,  and I’m sure if someone (Willis) did a point-per-dollar X minutes played comparison then Horcoff might sneak into the top three, but according to Goldstein Horcoff is the 4th worst contract in the league.

Rejoice Oiler fans: he isn’t the worst.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#51 Helmerfied
February 10 2010, 02:40PM
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In light of the stats thrown out there today, here's one for the positive side:

Deslauriers is currently tied for the league lead in assists by a goaltender! It's not all doom and gloom in Oilerland...we have one of the most offensive goaltenders in the game today!

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#52 Dan the Man
February 10 2010, 02:40PM
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The Towel Boy wrote:

Haha...touche!

What does that actually make jeanshorts then?

Ohhh right...the guy in a tube top and daisy dukes that sits on the end of the bench twirling his hair and winking at all the boys.

Or icegirl?

Nothing hotter than an icegirl in jeanshorts.

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#53 BUCK75
February 10 2010, 02:42PM
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JDD starts in net tonight apparently. Call me pessimistic, but I don't think I will not take your gambling advice Gregor, but thanks.

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#54 rubbertrout
February 10 2010, 02:43PM
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Twiggs wrote:

I totally agree with Original Dakin Ogden Brother, where was Dipeitro on that list?

Ricky D still has about a 10% chance of making that contract work out for the Islanders. If the cap goes up, he stays healthy on a go forward basis, and he continues to develop as a number one goalie (all pretty iffy ifs) the overall number at the end of the day might be workable because he's still pretty young.

If the stars don't line up like that then it definitely is a stinker.

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#55 The Towel Boy
February 10 2010, 02:44PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

Or icegirl?

Nothing hotter than an icegirl in jeanshorts.

It has been remarked that his milkshake does indeed bring all the boys to the yard.

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#56 Librarian Mike
February 10 2010, 02:44PM
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The Towel Boy wrote:

Haha...touche!

What does that actually make jeanshorts then?

Ohhh right...the guy in a tube top and daisy dukes that sits on the end of the bench twirling his hair and winking at all the boys.

Hey, whatever keeps those Sharks distracted is fine by me. I need all the help I can get after Brownlee got ejected for stabbing Heatley with his skate, and the acid I took isn't helping either...

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#58 rubbertrout
February 10 2010, 02:47PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

Thecaptainrobinbrownlee?

@ Gregor

You shouldn't complain about playing out of position. At least you get to play. I'm on the bench playing 'I Spy' with Joey.

I didn't even make the team.

*sob

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#59 Twiggs
February 10 2010, 02:48PM
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@rubbertrout

Fair enough. I guess the possibility of his career going in either direction at this point kept his contract off the list.

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#60 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
February 10 2010, 02:48PM
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Betting on the Ducks to win is only a 1.45. You'd actually get a better return picking the Sharks or the Caps to win against their respective opponents tonight, because they're visitors. Betting the ducks on Sunday would be a better bet than tonight.

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#61 rubbertrout
February 10 2010, 02:49PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

It's 5.5 Million you silly! www.capgeek.com

I think ODOB was being sarcastic.

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#62 Archaeologuy
February 10 2010, 02:50PM
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@rubbertrout

I'm still looking for a 13th forward and 7th defenceman. Your choice.

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#63 Twiggs
February 10 2010, 02:51PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

I didn't even make the team.

*sob

You might have a spot with me in Oklahoma...

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#64 Librarian Mike
February 10 2010, 02:51PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

I didn't even make the team.

*sob

Don't sweat it. You'll likely get snapped up by another team for nothing and go on to win a cup and/or score 40 goals a season.

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#65 rubbertrout
February 10 2010, 02:52PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

I'm still looking for a 13th forward and 7th defenceman. Your choice.

As long as I get a per diem and a seat on the charter flight I'm happy with either.

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#66 Archaeologuy
February 10 2010, 02:55PM
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@rubbertrout

Welcome to the club as our new 13th forward.

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#67 rubbertrout
February 10 2010, 02:56PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Welcome to the club as our new 13th forward.

Healthy scratch here I come! Just nobody get hurt OK? I wouldn't want to have to play or anything.

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#68 LoDog
February 10 2010, 03:00PM
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I'd rather have Briere at 6.3 than Horcoff at 5.5.

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#69 jeanshorts
February 10 2010, 03:09PM
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Ender wrote:

First pairing. Not bad. Now that I think about it, I do kind of compare myself to a young Sergei Gonchar.

Very young.

Like, eight. And handcuffed to something.

Jeanshorts, I hope you ate your wheaties, buddy; you're goin' to be doing some serious skating.

Can I use my pylon for balance?

On a side note, I actually do play defense and have my entire life, in every sport! Someone has a little too much information on me *COUGH Archaeologuy COUGH*. Time to go back into the sleep chamber for 10 more years!

*drinks a bottle of Nyquill and winds up in the hospital*

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#70 Bucknuck
February 10 2010, 03:14PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

I think ODOB was being sarcastic.

most likely he was...

My prediction for tonight: Our leaders will break out.

Horcoff will get a hattrick tonight and be plus 4.

Moreau and Pisani with 2 assists each and Staios and Penner with the other two goals.

5-2 Oilers.

Rubbertrout, do you think I am being sarcastic?

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#71 Jamie B.
February 10 2010, 03:15PM
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So who coaches?

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#72 Aleslav Smidsky
February 10 2010, 03:20PM
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Does anyone need/want 2 left handed sticks? I used them about 3 4 times this winter. I payed 225$ for each, I will sell both for 200$. They aren't stollen or nothing, I'm moving into a condo and i have no room for my hockey equipment.

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#73 Tracie
February 10 2010, 03:20PM
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This is awesome! I can be the coach who will replace Liberian Mike after RB gets chucked from the game and LM passes out from exhaustion! No one will shoot hard at a girl!!

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#74 rubbertrout
February 10 2010, 03:20PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

most likely he was...

My prediction for tonight: Our leaders will break out.

Horcoff will get a hattrick tonight and be plus 4.

Moreau and Pisani with 2 assists each and Staios and Penner with the other two goals.

5-2 Oilers.

Rubbertrout, do you think I am being sarcastic?

Probably, but my idealistic side is willing to look beyond that and get totally on board with your prediction.

A hatty for Horc! Awesome!

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#75 Archaeologuy
February 10 2010, 03:21PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Can I use my pylon for balance?

On a side note, I actually do play defense and have my entire life, in every sport! Someone has a little too much information on me *COUGH Archaeologuy COUGH*. Time to go back into the sleep chamber for 10 more years!

*drinks a bottle of Nyquill and winds up in the hospital*

you can use the pool noodle and nothing else. And for god's sake uncuff Ender the Dragon.

And of course I know a lot about you. You think I just made this team off the top of my head?* No, I scouted everybody on the list.**

*See 1998 Canadian Men's Olympic Hockey Team **Scouting Wanye consisted of sifting through his garbage (why so many copies of Teen People Magazine with the pictures of Zac Efron cut out of them?)

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#76 Tracie
February 10 2010, 03:21PM
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@ Aleslav Smidsky

No room for equipment? Why would you move to a place that doesn't have room for hockey equipment?

If I was left handed, I'd take those in a heartbeat!! but i'm not...so...I'll pass! Good deal though!

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#77 DougWeightProblem
February 10 2010, 03:24PM
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Aleslav Smidsky wrote:

Does anyone need/want 2 left handed sticks? I used them about 3 4 times this winter. I payed 225$ for each, I will sell both for 200$. They aren't stollen or nothing, I'm moving into a condo and i have no room for my hockey equipment.

NO ROOM FOR HOCKEY EQUIPMENT! You should at least keep a stick, skates and a puck for the outdoor rink. Otherwise, you can't call yourself a true Czechanadian.

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#78 Nesquik
February 10 2010, 03:25PM
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@Aleslav Smidsky

What stick? What flex? What curve?

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#79 Jodes
February 10 2010, 03:31PM
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So to change the topic a bit, is their anyone hitting the Pint either tonight or tomorrow to watch the continuation of the car wre.. umm I mean 2009/2010 Oilers season?

What's a good time to get there? 7? 7:30? Should I expect the place to be packed?

Thanks.

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#80 rubbertrout
February 10 2010, 03:34PM
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@Aleslav Smidsky

Maybe donate them to Archaeologuy's team. Something tells me that the revenues at RX1 won't be so good next year. Plus Brownlee might break the rest of the teams sticks in a fit of rage after being put in net.

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#81 Dan the Man
February 10 2010, 03:35PM
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From Elliotte Friedman of CBC:

One player Edmonton is getting calls about: Denis Grebeshkov. He’s an RFA after this season, making $3.15 million US. I know he’s having a rough year – who isn’t out there – but I’m not so sure I’d give up on him. Unless, of course, you could package him with one of the contracts you’d want to move.

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#82 David S
February 10 2010, 03:35PM
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Well boys, THIS is when you know you've reached rock bottom. Close to 80 comments on a GDB and 90% of 'em are of the comedy gold variety.

On second thought, we've gone pretty deep into the GDB without a whole bunch of HF Boards guys popping up with ridiculous fantasy trade comments. That's a solid upside in my book!

*Jason - I really liked your arena riff around 5:45 on yesterday's show. Well done.

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#83 MattL
February 10 2010, 03:38PM
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I would really like it if they shut Horcoff down for the rest of the year. The guy's shoulder is obviously terminally crap now, he's not taking a lot of faceoffs. What's the point in running him out night after night to get blown out? Let him rehab from now until September, and hopefully play like he did when he got the contract in the first place.

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#84 David S
February 10 2010, 03:39PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Thinking along those lines. If the Oilers sent out a lineup that looked like this...

1st Line) Wanye - Bingofuel - Willis 2nd Line) Gregor - Travis Dakin - David S 3rd Line) Rosscreek - Chris - Original Ogden Brother 4th Line) Archaeologuy - Im a Scientist! - Amber

1st Pair) Jeanshorts - Ender the Dragon 2nd Pair) Minister Towelboy - Ambasador Humantorch 3rd Pair) Rigger - Smokin Ray

Starting Goalie) Robin Brownlee Backup Goalie) Librarian Mike

...we could also vie for 30th place in the NHL. Just Sayin.

Thanks for the mention bud!

Although I'd place Robin as GM on that lineup. He'd probably smoke Tambellini and Lowe at the trade table.

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#85 Bruthah
February 10 2010, 03:39PM
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Aleslav Smidsky wrote:

Does anyone need/want 2 left handed sticks? I used them about 3 4 times this winter. I payed 225$ for each, I will sell both for 200$. They aren't stollen or nothing, I'm moving into a condo and i have no room for my hockey equipment.

Wow, how small is the place?

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#86 Librarian Mike
February 10 2010, 03:40PM
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@Archaeologuy

Awesome job on the hockey team. This is the most fun I've had on a thread here in a long time.

One thing remains though; nicknames.

We could go with the lame-actual-NHL-nickname generator: Arch-er, Jeanshorts-y....or we could go for awesome nicknames: Brownlee=Down by three, Amber=BAM-ber

I really should get back to work...

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#87 DougWeightProblem
February 10 2010, 03:42PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

From Elliotte Friedman of CBC:

One player Edmonton is getting calls about: Denis Grebeshkov. He’s an RFA after this season, making $3.15 million US. I know he’s having a rough year – who isn’t out there – but I’m not so sure I’d give up on him. Unless, of course, you could package him with one of the contracts you’d want to move.

Grebeshkov is like that girl with the smokin' body, but annoying habit of getting raped by big, strong men everytime she touches the puck. Wait, am I still making a metaphor?

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#88 Ender
February 10 2010, 03:43PM
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@ Tracie

"No one will shoot hard at a girl!" *

Manon Rhéaume, 1992

*quote made up, because Wanye said we could do that here.

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#89 I'm a Scientist!
February 10 2010, 03:44PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

Awesome job on the hockey team. This is the most fun I've had on a thread here in a long time.

One thing remains though; nicknames.

We could go with the lame-actual-NHL-nickname generator: Arch-er, Jeanshorts-y....or we could go for awesome nicknames: Brownlee=Down by three, Amber=BAM-ber

I really should get back to work...

Would you go for 'Bookworm'...or just Mikey? Or Libs?

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#90 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
February 10 2010, 03:44PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Thinking along those lines. If the Oilers sent out a lineup that looked like this...

1st Line) Wanye - Bingofuel - Willis 2nd Line) Gregor - Travis Dakin - David S 3rd Line) Rosscreek - Chris - Original Ogden Brother 4th Line) Archaeologuy - Im a Scientist! - Amber

1st Pair) Jeanshorts - Ender the Dragon 2nd Pair) Minister Towelboy - Ambasador Humantorch 3rd Pair) Rigger - Smokin Ray

Starting Goalie) Robin Brownlee Backup Goalie) Librarian Mike

...we could also vie for 30th place in the NHL. Just Sayin.

you heartless SOB, you told me i was special.

was that just to get into my pants?

***weeps and eats from a 4l container of chocolate ice cream***

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#91 Archaeologuy
February 10 2010, 03:47PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

Awesome job on the hockey team. This is the most fun I've had on a thread here in a long time.

One thing remains though; nicknames.

We could go with the lame-actual-NHL-nickname generator: Arch-er, Jeanshorts-y....or we could go for awesome nicknames: Brownlee=Down by three, Amber=BAM-ber

I really should get back to work...

I task thee, OilersNation, with also finding good nicknames for the Line combinations and D-Pairings. ie) "The Twin Towers" or "The Legion of Doom"

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#92 Archaeologuy
February 10 2010, 03:48PM
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@cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

mostly the pants thing, but i have a vacancy in the 7th dman spot and in my Coaching/Management positions. I'm currently accepting applications.

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#93 The Towel Boy
February 10 2010, 03:50PM
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I know you're not supposed to pick your own hockey team nickname, but I would like throw out there "Bortok The Destroyer" as my hockey team nickname. Yah.

*continues dreaming of playing hockey on the back of a sabre tooth while wielding a giant battle axe - which is in no way related to riding a grizzly bear while wielding a sword and a gun*

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#94 Ender
February 10 2010, 03:51PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

I task thee, OilersNation, with also finding good nicknames for the Line combinations and D-Pairings. ie) "The Twin Towers" or "The Legion of Doom"

Pairing #1:

Asses Draggin'

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#95 Nesquik
February 10 2010, 03:52PM
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@Archaeologuy

D2 -The politics of fear or church and state (depending on how towelboy is using minister)

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#96 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
February 10 2010, 03:53PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

mostly the pants thing, but i have a vacancy in the 7th dman spot and in my Coaching/Management positions. I'm currently accepting applications.

can i be president? i would LOVE to have an intern... and i like cigars.. it is like the perfect fit

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#97 I'm a Scientist!
February 10 2010, 03:54PM
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4th line: The AIASA line. Sounds catchy.

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#98 I'm a Scientist!
February 10 2010, 03:55PM
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@The Towel Boy

I second this nickname. But you must play with the number '1/2'.

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#99 Archaeologuy
February 10 2010, 03:56PM
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@cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

Well you sound qualified.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present the new President of Hockey Operations, cableguy.

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#100 jeanshorts
February 10 2010, 03:57PM
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Ender wrote:

Pairing #1:

Asses Draggin'

YES!

*starts giving random people his autograph until someone punches him out*

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