GDB LVIII: 11

Jason Gregor
February 10 2010 12:48PM

Who will reach lucky number 11?

The Ducks tied a franchise record with their 10th consecutive home win Monday v. the Kings, while the Oilers set a franchise record with their 10th consecutive road loss the same night. Tonight they meet for the first time this season, and if you were ever going to play Sports Select tonight might be the night to bet against the Copper and Blue.

Hell, don’t just pick them to lose, if you put down a hundred on them to lose by two you will win 110. Doubling your money is never a bad thing. I don’t condone gambling because too many people have ruined their lives over it, but taking a chance when the odds are this good, might give you an extra reason to watch the game tonight. I don’t bet very often because I suck at it, but when I look at these streaks and just how bad the Oilers are playing right now, even a conservative gambler like me is contemplating it.

In their ten-game home winning streak the Ducks have scored five goals twice, lit the lamp four times in seven games and scored three once. They are averaging 4.1 GPG in this stretch. Meanwhile the Oilers have scored a whopping ten goals in their ten-game losing skid.

If Ryan Getzlaf was playing I’d take this bet in a second, I still might do it, but the Olympian is on the shelf rehabbing his ankle and praying he will be ready to go next Tuesday when Canada plays their first game. I should also mention that the Oilers have won four straight in Anaheim, and nine of their last 12 at the house of Duck.

VETERAN PRESENCE

Getzlaf’s absence is music to the ears of the Oilers non-checking line of Ethan Moreau, Shawn Horcoff and Fernando Pisani. You can’t hide the fact those three have been terrible lately.

Horcoff is -31, Moreau is -18 in his last 32 games and Pisani has only dressed for one win this season; ONE.

I’ve had some GMs and scouts tell me there is interest in Moreau, but the way he is playing I can’t understand why. The Ducks were a team that was sniffing around a few weeks ago, so if Moreau is ever going to play well this year, you’d think it would be tonight and Sunday when the Ducks come to Edmonton.

It is clear Moreau and Pisani aren’t worried about showcasing themselves, because if they were, they’d be playing much better. At least show some emotion. Hit someone, get in a pushing match, or even better, make the correct play with the puck.

The only explanation for Pat Quinn not stapling these three to the bench is that the organization believes that opposing scouts want to see them play. I’d argue the Oilers might be better served to start giving these guys some soft minutes to try and pad their stats, or least stop them from becoming worse.

DUBNYK TO START?

It doesn’t make any sense to recall Devan Dubnyk and not start him tonight, so I’d expect to see the former first-rounder between the pipes. I do expect the Oilers to then send Dubnyk back to Springfield before the roster freeze on the 12th and have Bryan Pitton back up Deslauriers on Sunday, and then send Pitton to the ECHL. If they send him directly to the ECHL, it sounds like he doesn’t need to clear waivers so then only Deslauriers won’t be playing during the Olympic break.

At this point I’m not sure it really matters if they dress Zach Stortini or sit a forward from Monday’s loss, because Quinn can only take out one forward. Right now eight forwards deserve to take a seat in the pressbox.

After two horrendous efforts the Oilers need to show up tonight. They aren’t good enough to be expected to win, but at least compete and try to play smart. The Oilers have 12 players who will need a new contract next year, and when you throw in Steve Staios, Ethan Moreau and Robert Nilsson, who might get bought out if they don’t play well that is 15 guys who have their careers to play for. Pride should be enough to motivate them, but if it isn’t then their future career should be.

GASP! AN OILER ISN’T WORST

When times are tough, some days you need something to boost your spirits and with the Oilers in 30th place in the league, 29th in goals scored, 29th in goals against here is a list where one of their players in only 4th worst. Now this list isn’t filled with a lot of data,  and I’m sure if someone (Willis) did a point-per-dollar X minutes played comparison then Horcoff might sneak into the top three, but according to Goldstein Horcoff is the 4th worst contract in the league.

Rejoice Oiler fans: he isn’t the worst.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#151 Librarian Mike
February 10 2010, 04:52PM
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Rigger wrote:

Honorable mention goes to "The Greasy Tacos" and "The Mooseknuckles"

Too bad you're not with the Hawks:

The Camel Toews!

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#152 Wanyes bastard child
February 10 2010, 04:53PM
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PooFan wrote:

Speaking of things that are weak, I'd like to nominate this discussion thread as the weakest ever at ON. :)

The first post with the ON lineup was good, and I liked Brownlee's quip, but it was a dead horse from then on.

Im rubber and your glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you :P

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#153 WHAT!!!
February 10 2010, 04:53PM
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So let me get this straight...

Edmonton's new AHL team in Oklahoma have a brand new state of the art building to play in.... anything seem weird about that?

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#154 Matt Henderson
February 10 2010, 04:55PM
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PooFan wrote:

Speaking of things that are weak, I'd like to nominate this discussion thread as the weakest ever at ON. :)

The first post with the ON lineup was good, and I liked Brownlee's quip, but it was a dead horse from then on.

You won a Stanley Cup? Great. I've won six Stanley Cups, you want to count rings?...Oh, uh, nevermind.

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#155 Rigger
February 10 2010, 04:55PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

Too bad you're not with the Hawks:

The Camel Toews!

Hahahaha! That's some pure gold right there.

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#156 Librarian Mike
February 10 2010, 04:57PM
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PooFan wrote:

Speaking of things that are weak, I'd like to nominate this discussion thread as the weakest ever at ON. :)

The first post with the ON lineup was good, and I liked Brownlee's quip, but it was a dead horse from then on.

Thanks for sharing, and good luck with getting your computer to stop automatically redirecting you here. :)

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#157 jeanshorts
February 10 2010, 05:03PM
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@PooFan

You know, you're completely right.

It's way more fun to find new ways to talk about how horrible the Oilers are. After all, it's not like they've been the worst team in the league since January or anything (probably before that too). I'm sure there's plenty more topics of conversation we can dig out of this gem of a team.

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#159 McCreeper
February 10 2010, 05:28PM
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Good News

My bets are in and its against the oil. The problem I have betting on the oil, my home team is Kharma will find a way to make me pay. Usually with a win.

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#160 Harlie
February 10 2010, 05:33PM
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Rigger wrote:

Honorable mention goes to "The Greasy Tacos" and "The Mooseknuckles"

what about the "The Meatdrapes"?

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#161 Eddie Shore
February 10 2010, 05:44PM
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Am I the only one shocked and appalled that RossCreek made the team?

I'm insulted actually.

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#162 Matt Henderson
February 10 2010, 05:50PM
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@Eddie Shore

Now now. RC has been an active member of the Nation for a long time. He's paid his dues on the Flames site too. We need a plugger like that to teach the young kids what work ethic looks like.

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#163 Eddie Shore
February 10 2010, 05:52PM
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Matt Henderson wrote:

Now now. RC has been an active member of the Nation for a long time. He's paid his dues on the Flames site too. We need a plugger like that to teach the young kids what work ethic looks like.

You're right. Every team needs a flamer..

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#164 Drinkin' the Oilaid
February 10 2010, 06:02PM
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Gregor, did i hear you right on the show on the way home? Only one of tonight's combatants will reach 11? (Okay, so calling the Oilers combatants is a bit much...)

But won't both the Oilers and Ducks reach lucky 11 tonight? If (okay, when) the Ducks win, they reach 11 straight home wins and the Oilers reach 11 straight road losses. My math is right, right?

5-0 Ducks, Getzlaf surprises everyone by scoring a hat trick playing on one leg, using his stick as a crutch and Horc-awful clarifies that THIS is now the bottom

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#165 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
February 10 2010, 06:07PM
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Eddie Shore wrote:

You're right. Every team needs a flamer..

well played

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#166 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
February 10 2010, 06:07PM
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So you guys are just going to send me down to the AHL 'just because'?

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#167 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
February 10 2010, 06:14PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

So you guys are just going to send me down to the AHL 'just because'?

not be belittle what the man does, but the joey moss role is still open.

***disclaimer*** in no way is the above post intended to insult/demean/make fun of joey moss and the role he plays on the oilers. fact is, any one of us would kill to have the job he has...

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#168 Librarian Mike
February 10 2010, 06:15PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

So you guys are just going to send me down to the AHL 'just because'?

That seems to be Tambellini's rationale for pretty much everything this season, so why change now?

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#169 David S
February 10 2010, 06:18PM
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Eddie Shore wrote:

You're right. Every team needs a flamer..

Man, the Tom Gilbert jokes just keep on coming!

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#170 I'm a Scientist!
February 10 2010, 06:19PM
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PooFan wrote:

Speaking of things that are weak, I'd like to nominate this discussion thread as the weakest ever at ON. :)

The first post with the ON lineup was good, and I liked Brownlee's quip, but it was a dead horse from then on.

Hey, look...this guy must be a part of the fantasy flames team! Our first look at the competition! I like the way the team bonded together to point out how he is a total joy killer...hell, with that much team unity, could 29th position be in our sights?*

*No.

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#171 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
February 10 2010, 06:22PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

That seems to be Tambellini's rationale for pretty much everything this season, so why change now?

That's fine. I didn't want to go all the way to Edmonton to play hockey with you guys, anyway.

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#172 Librarian Mike
February 10 2010, 06:25PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

That's fine. I didn't want to go all the way to Edmonton to play hockey with you guys, anyway.

How bad is it that guys don't want to play for an IMAGINARY Oilers team? hahaha....*sobs*

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#173 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
February 10 2010, 06:25PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

How bad is it that guys don't want to play for an IMAGINARY Oilers team? hahaha....*sobs*

It's nothing personal. It's just so far away from my family.

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#174 jeanshorts
February 10 2010, 06:26PM
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@Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things

I think you need to learn how to be more of a team player. You try to be too much of a one man show. This isn't Ogden Kings 'n' Pretty Things Hockey. This is imaginary Oilers Nation Hockey.

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#175 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
February 10 2010, 06:35PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

I think you need to learn how to be more of a team player. You try to be too much of a one man show. This isn't Ogden Kings 'n' Pretty Things Hockey. This is imaginary Oilers Nation Hockey.

How can you call yourself an imaginary Oilers squad when 'flashes of brilliance' and 'YouTube sensation' don't net me a fat contract and 1st line minutes?

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#176 Kai
February 10 2010, 06:38PM
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Gregor...

I dont think you understand the odds of sports betting very well, and although you say you dont advocate gambling, its uninformed comments like "taking a chance when the odds are this good" that lead others to make uninformed betting decisions because they see you as some sort of sports authority when really your more of a sports gossip authority.

First off, advocating a bet on sports select is just terrible. The nature of sports select is such that you are offered a line that is 20-30% worse then the actual line set by oddsmakers. Not only that, your disadvantage is compounded by forcing you to parlay that bet with 2 other games.

The Anaheim Ducks are a -238 favorites over the Edmonton Oilers tonite which means odds makers feel they should win the game 70.4% of the time. If you are a sports bettor, you have to feel the Anaheim ducks are going to win this game around 75% of the time to have a reasonable expectation of profit.

The Oilers have a 33% winrate (meaning an average team should have a 67% winrate against the oilers) this year...they are playing a 17th best team (point wise) in the Anaheim ducks which is BELOW AVERAGE...without their best player Ryan Getzlaf. Do you honestly think that the are a 75% favorite given these factors? Maybe, but its certainly not the slam dunk you make it out to be.

Arguements like the Oilers are on a 10 game losing streak and the Ducks are on a 10 game losing so bet the Ducks are silly. Dont you think Vegas oddsmakers...who have been doing this for decades upon decades have factored this into the lines they make?? Have you seen the size of the casinos there? Its a city built on poor math, poor decision making and people who think they have an edge when they dont.

Do you know when "doubling your money" is a bad thing? When your forced to lose your money some of the time.

I work in the gambling industry and have seen more then enough people ruin their lives with similar faulty logic. And it annoys me to no end when people in positions of influence such as yours make uninformed comments like these.

P.S. I like your show, when you talk hockey. Your very good at it, stick to your wheel house.

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#177 jeanshorts
February 10 2010, 06:39PM
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@Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things

You know, I have a lot of faith in whoever the GM is (I've already forgotten) to not make these stupid, hasty mo-

I've just recieved word that Ogden Kings 'n' Pretty Things has just been signed to a 19 year, 700 million dollar contract.

Welcome to the team*!

*you're still going to have to work your way up from Springfield/Oklahoma (Springahoma?). Enjoy riding the bus while you make 30 million dollars.

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#178 Crust
February 10 2010, 06:41PM
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I'm dead sure you don't have room for me on your team.

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#179 David S
February 10 2010, 06:46PM
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Kai wrote:

Gregor...

I dont think you understand the odds of sports betting very well, and although you say you dont advocate gambling, its uninformed comments like "taking a chance when the odds are this good" that lead others to make uninformed betting decisions because they see you as some sort of sports authority when really your more of a sports gossip authority.

First off, advocating a bet on sports select is just terrible. The nature of sports select is such that you are offered a line that is 20-30% worse then the actual line set by oddsmakers. Not only that, your disadvantage is compounded by forcing you to parlay that bet with 2 other games.

The Anaheim Ducks are a -238 favorites over the Edmonton Oilers tonite which means odds makers feel they should win the game 70.4% of the time. If you are a sports bettor, you have to feel the Anaheim ducks are going to win this game around 75% of the time to have a reasonable expectation of profit.

The Oilers have a 33% winrate (meaning an average team should have a 67% winrate against the oilers) this year...they are playing a 17th best team (point wise) in the Anaheim ducks which is BELOW AVERAGE...without their best player Ryan Getzlaf. Do you honestly think that the are a 75% favorite given these factors? Maybe, but its certainly not the slam dunk you make it out to be.

Arguements like the Oilers are on a 10 game losing streak and the Ducks are on a 10 game losing so bet the Ducks are silly. Dont you think Vegas oddsmakers...who have been doing this for decades upon decades have factored this into the lines they make?? Have you seen the size of the casinos there? Its a city built on poor math, poor decision making and people who think they have an edge when they dont.

Do you know when "doubling your money" is a bad thing? When your forced to lose your money some of the time.

I work in the gambling industry and have seen more then enough people ruin their lives with similar faulty logic. And it annoys me to no end when people in positions of influence such as yours make uninformed comments like these.

P.S. I like your show, when you talk hockey. Your very good at it, stick to your wheel house.

Hey Jason - I've never hoped more for another guy to win at Sport Select than I'm hoping for you to win right now.

If you do hit the numbers, PLEASE be sure to tell us about it and how you blew the whole thing at the bar, while you chucked back the loonies at the machines, bought scratch 'n wins and laid HUGE bets down on the poker tables. And enjoyed every damn minute of the night while you did it.

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#180 I'm a Scientist!
February 10 2010, 06:46PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

You know, I have a lot of faith in whoever the GM is (I've already forgotten) to not make these stupid, hasty mo-

I've just recieved word that Ogden Kings 'n' Pretty Things has just been signed to a 19 year, 700 million dollar contract.

Welcome to the team*!

*you're still going to have to work your way up from Springfield/Oklahoma (Springahoma?). Enjoy riding the bus while you make 30 million dollars.

Wait... who approved this? Is Ogden Kings 'n' Pretty Things injury prone and 37 years old? If so, GREAT signing... if he is young and full of potential maybe this was a mistake...

*looks to the President of Hockey Operations*

I don't know if I can play here...besides, i think i just knocked up that chick from A-channel.

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#181 Librarian Mike
February 10 2010, 06:49PM
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@I'm a Scientist!

Hey, I'm only going to say this once to all you degenerates (especially YOU Jeanshorts):

STAY AWAY FROM MY WIFE!

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#182 David S
February 10 2010, 06:50PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

You know, I have a lot of faith in whoever the GM is (I've already forgotten) to not make these stupid, hasty mo-

I've just recieved word that Ogden Kings 'n' Pretty Things has just been signed to a 19 year, 700 million dollar contract.

Welcome to the team*!

*you're still going to have to work your way up from Springfield/Oklahoma (Springahoma?). Enjoy riding the bus while you make 30 million dollars.

Between the next Shawn Horcoff extension and this deal, we'll be pretty hard against the cap would you say?

Too rich man. Too rich.

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#183 jeanshorts
February 10 2010, 06:50PM
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@David S

Did you just promote gambling?

*tries to pick up the pieces of his newly shattered life*

SEE WHAT HAPPENS?

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#184 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
February 10 2010, 06:50PM
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I'm a Scientist! wrote:

Wait... who approved this? Is Ogden Kings 'n' Pretty Things injury prone and 37 years old? If so, GREAT signing... if he is young and full of potential maybe this was a mistake...

*looks to the President of Hockey Operations*

I don't know if I can play here...besides, i think i just knocked up that chick from A-channel.

the president is here and approves of this message

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#185 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
February 10 2010, 06:51PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

Hey, I'm only going to say this once to all you degenerates (especially YOU Jeanshorts):

STAY AWAY FROM MY WIFE!

why would i stay away from her when she is 10 feet away cooking me dinner and wearing only a pink thong that i assume you bought her?

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#186 jeanshorts
February 10 2010, 06:52PM
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HAHAHAHAHA this is glorious!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_W56x_LP__rg/S3NS47qBlGI/AAAAAAAABIo/h0jdkyoGWMA/s1600-h/15-3%28tamb%29%28SMALL%29.jpg

*starts ingesting any household cleaner he can get his hands on*

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#187 Crust
February 10 2010, 06:54PM
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Can I be the ice-maker...I'll use the tears of the fans, just like they do at Rexall.

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#188 jeanshorts
February 10 2010, 06:54PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

Hey, I'm only going to say this once to all you degenerates (especially YOU Jeanshorts):

STAY AWAY FROM MY WIFE!

What do I look like? A pompous 22 year old hometown kid who was on pace to score like 200 points in Jr before being signed to the big club? Of course not. I don't have those weird lines shaved into my head.

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#189 David S
February 10 2010, 06:56PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Did you just promote gambling?

*tries to pick up the pieces of his newly shattered life*

SEE WHAT HAPPENS?

Why yes. Yes I did.*

*In my mind.

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#190 BarryS
February 10 2010, 06:57PM
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Um. Last time I played hockey was before they invented curved sticks. Couldn't skate then, can't skate now. Can I be goalie coach please.

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#191 Dave
February 10 2010, 06:57PM
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This is a bit off topic but hearing Pierre Maguires voice is the new nails scratching chalkboard sound for me. It illicits the same cringing response.

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#192 Kai
February 10 2010, 06:58PM
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David S wrote:

Hey Jason - I've never hoped more for another guy to win at Sport Select than I'm hoping for you to win right now.

If you do hit the numbers, PLEASE be sure to tell us about it and how you blew the whole thing at the bar, while you chucked back the loonies at the machines, bought scratch 'n wins and laid HUGE bets down on the poker tables. And enjoyed every damn minute of the night while you did it.

Yes, because that would show me!

Dont get me wrong, I hope Gregor wins his bet if he puts his down. In fact, it is my most sincere wish that more people would win when they bet. But sadly that is not the reality of sports betting.

Im not a pro sports bettor but I do know a little something about gambling.

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/pokerkai

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#193 Kai
February 10 2010, 06:59PM
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Oh, and Id like to add I enjoy your blog greatly Mr. Staples.

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#194 I'm a Scientist!
February 10 2010, 07:01PM
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@Librarian Mike

Errr....*shuffles his feet and avoids eye contact*...i meant the OTHER chick from A Channel.

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#195 David S
February 10 2010, 07:02PM
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Kai wrote:

Yes, because that would show me!

Dont get me wrong, I hope Gregor wins his bet if he puts his down. In fact, it is my most sincere wish that more people would win when they bet. But sadly that is not the reality of sports betting.

Im not a pro sports bettor but I do know a little something about gambling.

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/pokerkai

a) Sorry, I'm NOT David Staples. He signs on with his full name.

b) Good for you. Your mom must be proud.

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#196 jeanshorts
February 10 2010, 07:07PM
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@David S

"a) Sorry, I'm NOT David Staples."

I'm still not convinced.

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#197 Librarian Mike
February 10 2010, 07:08PM
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I'm a Scientist! wrote:

Errr....*shuffles his feet and avoids eye contact*...i meant the OTHER chick from A Channel.

hahaha. No, I'm not that poor bastard guy. The 'sleeping with wife' angle felt like a natural evolutionary event for our pretend hockey team.

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#198 I'm a Scientist!
February 10 2010, 07:11PM
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@Librarian Mike

Pretend?

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#199 Aleslav Smidsky
February 10 2010, 07:11PM
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Nesquik wrote:

What stick? What flex? What curve?

Nike FlexLite Stick'um Reg Flex 87 535g pg2 Naslund LowKick

Easton Synergy Ultra 95 Flex p3 Lie 5.5 Sakic 1/2"/12mm

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#200 Librarian Mike
February 10 2010, 07:13PM
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I'm a Scientist! wrote:

Pretend?

.......

WHO'S STARTING TONIGHT?!?

*runs to catch bus to Rexall*

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