Oilers vs. Ducks Highlights: The Ducks Just Saw Moreau Real Good

Jonathan Willis
February 11 2010 07:26AM

Anaheim Ducks: 3

Edmonton Oilers: 2

Due to some personal obligations I missed tonight's game, but the box score was all kinds of interesting.  Apparently Ladislav Smid holding penalties are the secret formula to unlock Oilers' shorthanded goals, and apparently Ethan Moreau really, really, really wants to play in Anaheim.

It also appears that Bobby Ryan has yet to forgive Kevin Lowe for those comments he made about him.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#101 Aleslav Smidsky
February 11 2010, 12:42PM
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@Jonathan Willis

So injuries are considered a mess?

Whats the sense in getting better PK killers now?

25+ centres why?

There isn't many trades to be had in the NHL, Steve said so him self.

I guess all I'm trying to say is, it is easier said then done.

I could give you my list of 5 6 things Steve could/should do.

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#102 Archaeologuy
February 11 2010, 12:44PM
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Dyckster wrote:

Pistol, meet temple. Finger, meet trigger.

I'm not even going to play Russion Roulette for fear of the cylinder stopping on an emtpy chamber. FML! Frickin Horc couldn't even play centre on the Oilernations first line. I'd give that spot to Wanye no doubt. I play D if you need a guy from the minors of the minors of the minors 16 times over. In other words I suck.

I always that thought that the veteran guys were the ones that showed the new guys how to play the NHL game, but before he left, RS must have taught Horc how to play "Rob Schremp hockey"

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#103 Harlie
February 11 2010, 12:47PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Did I just hear that Gene Principe is actually calling the game tonight?

~ Sounds like it will be a pun game ~

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#105 Word
February 11 2010, 12:50PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

My favourite Edmonton Journal editorial so far this year.

I just can't take Paula Simons seriously when she says things like "Katz and co... need to stop acting like spoiled, entitled brats and start negotiating like grownups."

Let me know when your next seminar on business negotiation is Professor Simons, I'd love to come learn how to become a billionaire from you.

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#106 Chris.
February 11 2010, 12:51PM
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Aleslav Smidsky wrote:

Yes, what mess? I am serious. Tell me.

The team. The roster. The record.

Believe me... I don't want the owner making day to day Hockey decisions. I don't want Katz to choose who is to be signed, or waived, or traded: That is the GM's job.

However, as owner of the Edmonton Oiler Hockey Club, Daryl Katz is tasked with the responsibility of hiring/retaining the Oiler management team... Katz needs to assess this existing group and ask himself if this is the group that he wants making important hockey decisions moving forward. If I had that responsibility I would look at the track record of my group as it compares to that of their peers... IMO, it would be easier to make the case that this is the absolute worst management team in the entire league, than to argue for their general competence. The truth, I'm sure, lies somewhere in the middle... Nonetheless: I don't think Oiler managemnt has accomplished enough, or performed well enough to deserve Katz's continued support.

I believe it's time for leadership on the ice to be changed... same goes for off ice leadership.

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#107 Dyckster
February 11 2010, 12:51PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

I always that thought that the veteran guys were the ones that showed the new guys how to play the NHL game, but before he left, RS must have taught Horc how to play "Rob Schremp hockey"

Horcoff -

G - 9, A - 11, -31

Schremp -

G - 6, A - 14, -5

Schremp (by the numbers anyway) better in his own zone? Obviously he didn't teach Horc EVERYTHING he knows.

Never mind the pistol, hand me the 12 gauge please.

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#108 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
February 11 2010, 12:56PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

My bad. I though Oklahoma was one of the places that they had built a new arena. Must be thinkng about Kansas City.

Thanks for the correction.

Of course I'm sure the AHL squad will need to accommodate nearly dozens of fans as opposed to sell outs night after night.

@ Cableguy Stinkyfish? Ouch. That's no way to talk to the 13th forward on Arch's squad.

need i remind you that i am President of Hockey Operations for Arch's squad?

now, find me 5 virgins as punishment

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#109 Chris.
February 11 2010, 12:56PM
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Re: my above post:

The DFFers should be pleased that a new GM could spend several years "evaluating" the talent: thus further first round picks may be garnered.

*Facepalm*Sigh*Resigned Grimace*

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#110 Aleslav Smidsky
February 11 2010, 12:57PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Aleslav Smidsky:

So injuries are considered a mess?

The most damaging injury to this team was Khabibulin's, and it was entirely predictable. Yeah, the whole situation there is a mess.

Whats the sense in getting better PK killers now?

Summer of 2009. This is what Tambellini should have been doing rather than chasing Chris Neil.

25+ centres why?

Because traditionally young players need to be brought along slowly and put in a sheltered position until they outgrow it.

There isn't many trades to be had in the NHL, Steve said so him self.

Again, the biggest problems with this team stem back to Tambellini's mistakes in the summer of 2009. Although given the trades made in the last two weeks, I reject your premise.

I guess all I'm trying to say is, it is easier said then done.

Sure, but the problem is that Tambellini's inaction has been better for the franchise than Tambellini's actions - which I might add were thoroughly criticized well before the puck dropped this season.

I could give you my list of 5 6 things Steve could/should do.

Why should he do anything? I thought you didn't see a mess?

Hemsky not Khabi.

It's winter of 2010.

What about the veteran core we have? How do you know some other veterans would do a better job?

That's your opinion.

I do see the mess, and it's not the same mess you want him to clean up.

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#111 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
February 11 2010, 12:59PM
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Aleslav Smidsky wrote:

Yes, what mess? I am serious. Tell me.

you mean the pile of inflated contracts handed out to underperforming players that has left the team with a top end salary structure with bottom end players? that mess?

how about the 30th place in the standings mess with no end in sight? that mess?

how about the horrid make-up of the roster? that mess?

how about the disaster that is every team within the oilers umbrella? that mess?

yah, no mess here

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#112 Chris.
February 11 2010, 01:03PM
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@Jonathan Willis

How on earth do you break up a comment like that to address items on a point by point basis? I used to love doing that under the old website format... Can you teach me your weirding internet ways?

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#113 Archaeologuy
February 11 2010, 01:09PM
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Dyckster wrote:

Horcoff -

G - 9, A - 11, -31

Schremp -

G - 6, A - 14, -5

Schremp (by the numbers anyway) better in his own zone? Obviously he didn't teach Horc EVERYTHING he knows.

Never mind the pistol, hand me the 12 gauge please.

Yup. If some hotshot smart-mouthed prospect came up and put up those numbers and was as inept in his own zone then the team would have no reservations sending him back to the minors. It must be nice for the veterans in the league to know that here in Oilerville they can do pretty much anything and get away with it.

*end mini-rant*

Good for Rob Schremp to find a place in the NHL. Maybe now we as fans can see past the crazy idea that every player needs to be as fast as Cogliano to play in the NHL. We've been supporting that theory for as long as I can remember and it hasnt gotten the Oilers very far.

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#114 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
February 11 2010, 01:11PM
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Chris. wrote:

How on earth do you break up a comment like that to address items on a point by point basis? I used to love doing that under the old website format... Can you teach me your weirding internet ways?

How on earth do you break up a comment

you mean like this?

Can you teach me your weirding internet ways?

maybe edit: put BLOCKQUOTE whatever text /BLOCKQUOTE (dont forget the <>)

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#115 Bucknuck
February 11 2010, 01:11PM
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Aleslav Smidsky wrote:

Hold up! Hold up! I have read SOMEWHERES that the only reason OILers drafted Chorney is because he had a past relationship with Gilbert. I don't know what kind of relationship and I don't want to assume either. Now that you say Chorney likes girls, I'm confused.

I have enough gay friends that I figure this kind of talk is a little off side. Especially days after Brendan Burke's death.

IF Gilbert and Chorney were crazy in love it should make no difference and not be something to be mocked for.

I know it's all fun, I'm just saying...

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#116 Chris.
February 11 2010, 01:12PM
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My take is this:

If Tambellini crashed this team by accident: he should be replaced.

If Tambellini crashed this team on purpose: he should be shot.

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#117 JailbirdJoe
February 11 2010, 01:13PM
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Breaking: Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz speaks on the team and the new arena in a special broadcast this afternoon at 2pm on 630 CHED.

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#118 Chris.
February 11 2010, 01:19PM
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@cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

You mean

Really?

like this?

Thanks.

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#119 RossCreekNation
February 11 2010, 01:19PM
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JailbirdJoe wrote:

Breaking: Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz speaks on the team and the new arena in a special broadcast this afternoon at 2pm on 630 CHED.

twitter.com/CoreyGraham... Katz speaks on Oilers Lunch @ 2:15

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#120 Robin Brownlee
February 11 2010, 01:27PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

twitter.com/CoreyGraham... Katz speaks on Oilers Lunch @ 2:15

This is Stauffer's interview, one-on-one with Katz. He alluded to the fact this interview might be happening on Oilers Lunch on TEAM 1260 eight or nine days ago.

So, everybody will be wanting to tune in on TEAM 1260, right?

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#121 Bucknuck
February 11 2010, 01:28PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

This is Stauffer's interview, one-on-one with Katz. He alluded to the fact this interview might be happening on Oilers Lunch on TEAM 1260 eight or nine days ago.

So, everybody will be wanting to tune in on TEAM 1260, right?

I think I will find an excuse to go out to my vehicle for that one. I wonder if Katz will call anyone a moron.

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#122 RossCreekNation
February 11 2010, 01:31PM
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@Robin Brownlee

That is definitely correct, Robin, and the very reason I posted it.

Team1260 >>>> 630 CHED

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#123 VK63
February 11 2010, 01:33PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

This is Stauffer's interview, one-on-one with Katz. He alluded to the fact this interview might be happening on Oilers Lunch on TEAM 1260 eight or nine days ago.

So, everybody will be wanting to tune in on TEAM 1260, right?

It would make a certain amount of sense, since we all care so very much.

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#124 smiliegirl15
February 11 2010, 01:34PM
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Hopefully someone will post the pertinent points here since some of us are trapped at work with no radio?

*batts eyelashes hopefully

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#125 rubbertrout
February 11 2010, 01:36PM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

need i remind you that i am President of Hockey Operations for Arch's squad?

now, find me 5 virgins as punishment

~whatever man--that just isn't rubbertrout hockey~

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#126 rubbertrout
February 11 2010, 01:39PM
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@Aleslav Smidsky

Hemsky not Khabi.

I guess Hemmer can play goal too? Even if he was healthy this team would be a long way from contention with Rehabulin between the pipes.

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#127 Aleslav Smidsky
February 11 2010, 02:18PM
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rubbertrout wrote:
Hemsky not Khabi.

I guess Hemmer can play goal too? Even if he was healthy this team would be a long way from contention with Rehabulin between the pipes.

HuH???

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#128 Dan the Man
February 11 2010, 02:19PM
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Katz is on with Stauffer right now on The Team.

For some reason Stauffer is talking like a 1950's radio news guy.

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#129 Chris.
February 11 2010, 02:27PM
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smiliegirl15 wrote:

Hopefully someone will post the pertinent points here since some of us are trapped at work with no radio?

*batts eyelashes hopefully

-Results unacceptable.

-"Tambi" has the green light to improve the club

-The future is bright.

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#130 David S
February 11 2010, 02:28PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

Katz is on with Stauffer right now on The Team.

For some reason Stauffer is talking like a 1950's radio news guy.

He's reading prepared questions and Katz is answering with prepared responses.

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#131 Chris.
February 11 2010, 02:29PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

Katz is on with Stauffer right now on The Team.

For some reason Stauffer is talking like a 1950's radio news guy.

LOL! I was thinking the same thing.

Stauffer must get nervous in the presence of his master.

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#132 David S
February 11 2010, 02:30PM
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Chris. wrote:

-Results unacceptable.

-"Tambi" has the green light to improve the club

-The future is bright.

You can go to The Team 1260 site and stream the radio. Of course, now that you know this you won't get any work done from 1:00 to 6:00 between Oilers Lunch and Just a Game. Haha!

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#133 Shifty203
February 11 2010, 02:32PM
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Meh, sounded like the same speech tambi gave at the end of last season. I'm not expecting much to change.

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#134 Librarian Mike
February 11 2010, 02:33PM
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Chris. wrote:

LOL! I was thinking the same thing.

Stauffer must get nervous in the presence of his master.

Now the truth can come out about Katz and Tambellini:

http://goremasternews.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/kuato-in-total-recall.jpg

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#135 VK63
February 11 2010, 02:34PM
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@David S

heres the link for those missing it.

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/podcastplayer.htm?pid=98&iid=20203

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#136 Dan the Man
February 11 2010, 02:35PM
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David S wrote:

He's reading prepared questions and Katz is answering with prepared responses.

~WHAAAAAAaaaaaaTTTT!!!!?????~

*Spits coffee all over monitor*

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#137 Ender
February 11 2010, 02:42PM
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Chris wrote:

-"Tambi" has the green light to improve the club

Whew, well that's sure a relief. Now at least we know what the problem was. Tambellini apparently knew all along what the difficulties were with this team and how to fix them, but he was just waiting for Katz to give him the 'green light' so he could spring into action and make it all better.

-The future is bright.

Absolutely. Why, I bet the league awards us 19 points for tonight's pending win against the Kings on style points alone. And wait'll you see who's coming to town in the trade that'll be announced tonight. All the way from Japan; no, can't tell. It's Tambo's big surprise he's been saving; wouldn't want to spoil it.

Edit: Maybe Katz found the secret loophole in the NHL CBA that says that if you finish at least twice as badly as any other NHL team in a given season, you get the first two picks in the entry draft. That would qualify as pretty bright, eh? See, Katz had things under control the whole time. And we were all worried and stuff . . .

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#138 VK63
February 11 2010, 02:45PM
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For those not familiar with Oiler generated fart and catch. That was your renewal message... now get your wallets out.

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#139 Librarian Mike
February 11 2010, 02:47PM
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VK63 wrote:

For those not familiar with Oiler generated fart and catch. That was your renewal message... now get your wallets out.

...and bend over.

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#140 RossCreekNation
February 11 2010, 02:48PM
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I see I'm late to the "Stauffer sounds robotic party", but wow. Katz/Stauffer on two stations at once with an "exclusive" interview where each reads a transcript. Not quite what I was expecting. Too rehearsed; not real enough. Nice timing, by the way.

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#142 rubbertrout
February 11 2010, 03:35PM
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Aleslav Smidsky wrote:

HuH???

Your post 110.

I gathered that your suggestion was that the injury issue that mattered was Hemsky not Khabby. My response was that even if Hemmer was playing the team would still stink because of the AHL level goaltending.

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#143 Bam
February 11 2010, 06:34PM
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@Aleslav Smidsky

"Hemsky not Khabi."

If you think missing Khabibulin has less of an impact on this team then missing Hemsky I don't even know what to say, have you been watching the AHL goaltending all season?

"It's winter of 2010."

Tambellini has had this job for around 18 months... that is plenty of time for someone with "hockey smarts" to assess what a team needs and make some moves accordingly... chasing rainbows AKA Dany Heatley all summer or trying to get Neil are just examples of time that could have been better spent trying to fill the obvious holes on our team (shut down forwards / a good stay at home defensemen anyone?)

"What about the veteran core we have? How do you know some other veterans would do a better job?"

I honestly can't tell if this is a real question or if you're just trolling at this point, but the veteran core on this team is one of its biggest problems(imo). Have you seen Horcoffs / Moreaus (and to a lesser extent Staios/Sourays) performance this year? It's been hard to watch.

"I do see the mess, and it's not the same mess you want him to clean up."

What in your opinion is the mess? Missing Hemsky?

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