Tambellini talks: famous last words?

Robin Brownlee
February 15 2010 05:15PM

Ice Hockey - Canada v Switzerland

Generally speaking, being all talk and no action makes you a poser. When you're the GM of the 30th-place Edmonton Oilers as Steve Tambellini is, it seems to me being all talk and no walk should get you gone.

It was interesting, then, to listen to Tambellini's interview with Gene Principe of Sportsnet on the Oilers website today. Tambellini, who hasn't done much of anything since handing Nikolai Khabibulin a four-year retirement package last summer, spoke about what he intends to do moving forward in his sit down with Principe.

It was, to my ear, relatively bold stuff in terms of Tambellini addressing the need for change and how the responsibility for making it happen is his with an Oilers outfit about to miss the playoffs for a fourth straight season.

With the green the light from owner Daryl Katz to do what it takes to begin a rebuild, something the boss reiterated in an interview with radio analyst Bob Stauffer last week, the task sits where it should, in Tambellini's lap.

Tambellini sounded convincing talking about what lies ahead between now, the trade deadline, the Entry Draft and the opening of free agency July 1. Then again, he talked the ears off reporters at the end of last season, then delivered small on some big expectations.

I'm thinking a repeat means a pink slip. And it should.

Tambi-speak

"I think it's a reflection of our entire organization's feeling," Tambellini told Principe, who'd asked about Katz's reference to the state of the franchise being "unacceptable."

"Daryl Katz has been not only supportive and caring about this hockey club. One of the first things that stood out for me is his passion for the city. He's extremely proud and wants to make a further contribution in so many different ways to grow this city and bring it back to the stature where he believes it should be.

"He mentioned this team being in last place being unacceptable. Of course it is. That's no secret to anyone here involved. Are we happy about it? No. Do we have an opportunity here to rebuild this franchise in a way that's not just for next year but many years to come? Yes, we do. That's my job."

Yes. Yes, it is. This we already know.

"My job is to look at this entire organization," he said. "I've been given the authority to do that and make this not a good organization, but a great organization. Am I pushing people in different areas of this organization? Yes, I am.

"Is it uncomfortable at times? I'm sure it's very uncomfortable. From a players' standpoint, will there be change? Of course there will be change. Can we do it by the trade deadline? I'm not sure. But I do know by the time we get to the spring and the start of next year, there'll be significant change and we'll be in a spot where we can start this rebuilding process."

So, what to do?

"From a players' standpoint, the trade deadline is step one," Tambellini said of March 3. "We'll see what we can do to change or move some of the pieces that we have in place. Everyone is aware of that and clear that there will be change there. We have the draft and July 1."

Walking the walk

Unloading Ethan Moreau at the deadline seems a necessity. If there's somebody to take Steve Staios and Fernando Pisani, by then as opposed to later in the summer, all the better.

At the draft, assuming things go as they've gone so far, Tambellini's first order of business is to not bugger up one of the first two picks with a hunch about a Swiss forward. Thanks, Captain Obvious.

Tambellini has to do more than call the name of Taylor Hall or Tyler Seguin. He has to find a way to move either Sheldon Souray or Tom Gilbert at something approaching fair value (which won't be easy given the seasons they've had). Not both, but one. Do that, and fans might start buying in.

As for free agency July 1, Tambellini must, and I expect will, consider buy-outs for spare parts he can't move. He'll have to get a read on the state of Khabibulin's back. Trade Patrick O'Sullivan? He has to address holes in the line-up. Remember that face-off guy? Grit?

That's not the entirety of what promises to be a lengthy laundry list, but it's plenty, given Tambellini's inability to pull the trigger on much since he took over from Kevin Lowe.

"Are we going to be able to do everything in a couple months here? No, this is going to be a process, there's no question about that," Tambellini said.

"I understand that. I know the people of Edmonton understand that. I know they're not looking for a quick-fix type of weekend where we fix the Oilers. This is going to take some time.

"I know it's going to be extremely painful at times, but the end result is going to be terrific. I know what the end result is going to look like, and that's going to take some time."

I wouldn't take too much time to get started down that road to "terrific" if I was Tambellini. It's difficult to get there from the unemployment line.

This and that

-- If the Oilers didn't have brutal luck with illness and injuries, they wouldn't have any luck at all. A bizarre mishap on the AHL farm Springfield just added to that.

Alex Plante, who had a decent stint here with the Oilers, is out with a concussion after colliding with teammate Kip Brennan during the warm-up for a game against Providence Saturday.

Plante and Brennan were doing 3-on-2 line rushes as part of the warm-up when they ran into each other. The impact knocked Plante out cold.

"It's just one of those things, but I've never seen it before in all my years," said Springfield coach Rob Daum. "I don't know how long he'll be out. We haven't had much good luck."

-- While the Oilers will have lots of eyes an ears at the Olympics, some of them on Jaromir Jagr, there's another player who they'll be gawking at, as will other NHL teams.

Keep an eye on Czech Republic forward Roman Cervenka, an undrafted 24-year-old who might turn out to be a player for somebody.

Cervenka never got a sniff during his draft year because he was ridiculously small at five-foot-seven and 127 pounds. That's not a mis-print. He was a-buck-27 as a teenager.

At five-foot-11 and 187 pounds now, Cervenka's looking like a late-bloomer. In 48 games with Slavia Praha this season, Cervenka has scored 30-41-71 to lead the team in scoring.

-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Wednesday and Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on the Jason Gregor Show on TEAM 1260.

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#51 Crash
February 15 2010, 10:21PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Those guys aren't soft, POS/Nilsson/Cogliano are soft.

Uh yah, those guys (Betts, Malhotra, Moore) are soft too and aren't hard to play against. Moore has 18 PIM's, Malhotra 16 PIM's, Betts 12 PIM's...it doesn't get much softer than that. They sure as hell don't scare anyone.

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#52 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 10:33PM
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Crash wrote:

Name me the last #1 overall pick that spent any time in the AHL?

By all means if Eberle and Hall/Seguin aren't NHL ready then yes send them to the AHL but by no means should they go there just for the sake of going there. There are tons of examples in numerous NHL cities whereby their best prospects didn't spend any time in the AHL or at the very least spent just a handful of games in the AHL...tons

Why is everyone so quick to send our best prospects to the minors already?...do not pass go do not collect an NHL paycheck....it boggles my mind

See the problem with your theory is: "if they are ready" isn't a black and white, cut and dry question.

If coaching/managment chose incorrectly you've then handicapped your team.

What is better? Having a vet on the team and then have Eberle come up at game 40 when the inevitable injuries hit or have Eberle on the team from day one and have Reddox come up when injuries hit.

The answer should be clear.

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#53 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 10:37PM
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Crash wrote:

Uh yah, those guys (Betts, Malhotra, Moore) are soft too and aren't hard to play against. Moore has 18 PIM's, Malhotra 16 PIM's, Betts 12 PIM's...it doesn't get much softer than that. They sure as hell don't scare anyone.

Just so were on the same page here.

Are you arguing that the team WOULDN't have been better off with proven bottom 6'ers in the prime of their career rather then miscast players (Cogs/Comrie) players past their prime (Moreau) and unproven players that probably wont have an NHL career (Stone)?

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#54 Shawner
February 15 2010, 10:45PM
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Thats Just what we need Another "small" forward with "potential" and "Skill", Roman Cervenka is "clearly" the answer, Might as well trade away eberle cause this "late" Bloomer is gonna be the answer to our problems and i cant wait till training camp to see him dawn the now famous #88 and show off all his "SKILL" and "POTENTIAL" only to get sent to the minors for 3 years, called up for 3 games and then let go. Sounds LIke another schremp, we have already travelled that route and got burned, im not saying that this roman Cervenka is or is not the answer as with Schremp, but it seems to me that we need to stop trying to recriut the very thing that got us here in the first place!!.

oh BY THE WAY

Rob Scremp: 40gp 6g, 15a, 21p +/-:-3 4ppg, 8 PIMS Salary: $715,000, cap hit: same. Last five games: 3A, 0 PIM, +2, 7s, avg toi= 15 mins Faceoffs avg 52.3%

Shawn Horcoff: 56gp 9g, 14a, 23p +/-:-29 3ppg, 41 PIMS Salary: $7 Mil, cap hit: $5.5 Mil. Last five Games: 3A, 4 PIM, -2, 4s, avg toi= 20 mins Faceoffs avg 46.4%

IM sure at 1 point shcremp's defensive skills were in question, and at 1 point Horcoff was a defensive specialist. HHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, WOW horcoff is definitly a clear "up" grade!!!! I dont know you tell me!!

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#55 Crash
February 15 2010, 10:49PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

See the problem with your theory is: "if they are ready" isn't a black and white, cut and dry question.

If coaching/managment chose incorrectly you've then handicapped your team.

What is better? Having a vet on the team and then have Eberle come up at game 40 when the inevitable injuries hit or have Eberle on the team from day one and have Reddox come up when injuries hit.

The answer should be clear.

Are you serious? Is this the same theory that Dallas used this year with Jamie Benn? Or Buffalo did with Tyler Myers? Colorado with Mat Duchene and Ryan O'Reilly, etc.

Depends on who all of your vets are...the idea is to ice the best team possible....that is the only answer that should be clear...at least it is to me...maybe not so much to you.

If the prospect makes your team better, then he stays and plays...all other teams in the NHL do it.

If the answer is so clear as you put it why are there so many prospects in the NHL that never spend any significant time in the AHL?

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#56 Crash
February 15 2010, 10:57PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Just so were on the same page here.

Are you arguing that the team WOULDN't have been better off with proven bottom 6'ers in the prime of their career rather then miscast players (Cogs/Comrie) players past their prime (Moreau) and unproven players that probably wont have an NHL career (Stone)?

Well let's see how much better was Florida this year with Dominic Moore? You tell me.

Philadelphia was supposed to be a powerhouse with all their talent...how much better has Blair Betts made them?

Malhotra is a spare part in San Jose...you're not suggesting otherwise are you?

So yes I don't think having Moore, Betts or Malhotra would have made a lick of difference to this team especially with all the sickness and injuries.

Not a lick of difference...they don't provide offense, they don't provide toughness, they are soft like so many players we have....

Again, not a lick of difference.

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#57 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 11:01PM
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Crash wrote:

Are you serious? Is this the same theory that Dallas used this year with Jamie Benn? Or Buffalo did with Tyler Myers? Colorado with Mat Duchene and Ryan O'Reilly, etc.

Depends on who all of your vets are...the idea is to ice the best team possible....that is the only answer that should be clear...at least it is to me...maybe not so much to you.

If the prospect makes your team better, then he stays and plays...all other teams in the NHL do it.

If the answer is so clear as you put it why are there so many prospects in the NHL that never spend any significant time in the AHL?

The fact that some players are really good right away doesn't = all players are good right away.

And yes I'm serious, if you read what I wrote it should be pretty cut and dry. If you do nothing in the summer expecting your prospects to be ready you have handicapped yourself if they aren't. Oh, and I'm glad you brought O'Reilly up, after a fast start he's got 3 points in his last 36 games.

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#58 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 11:03PM
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Crash wrote:

Well let's see how much better was Florida this year with Dominic Moore? You tell me.

Philadelphia was supposed to be a powerhouse with all their talent...how much better has Blair Betts made them?

Malhotra is a spare part in San Jose...you're not suggesting otherwise are you?

So yes I don't think having Moore, Betts or Malhotra would have made a lick of difference to this team especially with all the sickness and injuries.

Not a lick of difference...they don't provide offense, they don't provide toughness, they are soft like so many players we have....

Again, not a lick of difference.

They aren't difference makers they are pieces to the puzzle... pieces the Oilers badly lack. On a normal team, those guys wouldn't make a huge difference, but on a team with four 5th line wingers and one center that can play 200 feet they would be important pieces.

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#59 Crash
February 15 2010, 11:07PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

They aren't difference makers they are pieces to the puzzle... pieces the Oilers badly lack. On a normal team, those guys wouldn't make a huge difference, but on a team with four 5th line wingers and one center that can play 200 feet they would be important pieces.

Betts, Moore and Malhotra aren't what they lack...they already have players just like them...no offense, no grit, no toughness...

This team doesn't need more of the same....they need what they don't have....some game breaking scorers and some stand up for your teammates, nastiness....and now possibly another starting goaltender

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#60 Matt Henderson
February 15 2010, 11:12PM
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@Crash

Are you arguing the Oilers dont need faceoff winning Penalty Killers with experience playing against top opponents?

Toughness is great, but what good is tough when you cant kill a penalty or skate 5 on 5?

How could winning more faceoffs and killing more penalties not make a lick of difference?

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#61 wax for my stick
February 15 2010, 11:15PM
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I still think its a bad idea to give up on o'sullivan, i get that hes the "whipping boy" right now and all but he'll turn it around if he ends up staying and if they can find some consistency out of him and some proper line mates but the oil got more serious problems to deal with right now.....(cough!...horcoff!...cough!)...

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#62 Crash
February 15 2010, 11:17PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

The fact that some players are really good right away doesn't = all players are good right away.

And yes I'm serious, if you read what I wrote it should be pretty cut and dry. If you do nothing in the summer expecting your prospects to be ready you have handicapped yourself if they aren't. Oh, and I'm glad you brought O'Reilly up, after a fast start he's got 3 points in his last 36 games.

I didn't say do nothing all summer...where did I say that? Please show me where I said that...I did say don't go out and sign more of what we already have small players and/or more of the same kind of players. In fact I think I said to add toughness, grit, size (ie: Ott, Armstrong/Hamhuis) if it's even possible.

You still only get to have 50 signed contracts...Eberle will be one of those...if he is good enough to make the team better, then he stays if he isn't then he goes down till he is...that's the way it works.

And as for O'Reilly he wasn't a big scorer in Junior and isn't playing an offensive role with Colorado....he is mostly a defensive player who kills penalties and is a plus player...he was good enough to play there, so he stayed...that's the point.

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#63 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 11:17PM
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Crash wrote:

Betts, Moore and Malhotra aren't what they lack...they already have players just like them...no offense, no grit, no toughness...

This team doesn't need more of the same....they need what they don't have....some game breaking scorers and some stand up for your teammates, nastiness....and now possibly another starting goaltender

Your the one the brought up specific names here, I'm saying they need proven bottom 6'ers that can play mutliple roles. Nystrom this summer would be a candidate in my eyes, he has some grit to boot.

One FO winning center and one 3rd line winger that can get you 10 goals, PK and play with a mean streak were on my summer wish list last summer (and this summer) I don't care what the names are, just that they can do the job.

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#64 Crash
February 15 2010, 11:20PM
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Matt Henderson wrote:

Are you arguing the Oilers dont need faceoff winning Penalty Killers with experience playing against top opponents?

Toughness is great, but what good is tough when you cant kill a penalty or skate 5 on 5?

How could winning more faceoffs and killing more penalties not make a lick of difference?

NO it would be great to win faceoffs but there is not guarantee when you bring in a player he is going to win faceoffs...who is to say the guys we already have can't win faceoffs...

Would you have said that Horcoff was going to be a good faceoff guy this year based on last year? How are his faceoff numbers this year?

Are you actually of the belief that adding names like Moore, Betts and Malhotra would have turned ths Oilers into a playoff contending team?

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#65 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 11:21PM
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Crash wrote:

I didn't say do nothing all summer...where did I say that? Please show me where I said that...I did say don't go out and sign more of what we already have small players and/or more of the same kind of players. In fact I think I said to add toughness, grit, size (ie: Ott, Armstrong/Hamhuis) if it's even possible.

You still only get to have 50 signed contracts...Eberle will be one of those...if he is good enough to make the team better, then he stays if he isn't then he goes down till he is...that's the way it works.

And as for O'Reilly he wasn't a big scorer in Junior and isn't playing an offensive role with Colorado....he is mostly a defensive player who kills penalties and is a plus player...he was good enough to play there, so he stayed...that's the point.

You're missing the point, I'm not saying you said to do nothing in the summer. I'm saying if the team goes into camp EXPECTING prospects to fill roles and they then find out they can't fill them (either right out of camp or 40 games in) then those holes are far harder to fill then they would be in the summer when role players are available on the cheap. Which leaves your team at a disadvantage that could have easily been avoided.

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#66 Crash
February 15 2010, 11:25PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Your the one the brought up specific names here, I'm saying they need proven bottom 6'ers that can play mutliple roles. Nystrom this summer would be a candidate in my eyes, he has some grit to boot.

One FO winning center and one 3rd line winger that can get you 10 goals, PK and play with a mean streak were on my summer wish list last summer (and this summer) I don't care what the names are, just that they can do the job.

I brought up those names because those are the names that you have mentioned in the past...so tell me which players were you referring to then when you talked of the available FA's that no one had signed later in the summer? Am I wrong to suggest you had Betts, Moore and Malhotra on your mind?

As for Nystrom...Nystrom would work for what we need as he brings some toughness and an edge that this team sorely needs more than a soft center who might win a faceoff.

What happens if said soft faceoff man can't win a faceoff? Then you're stuck with a one trick pony who has lost his trick and can't provide anything else.

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#67 Matt Henderson
February 15 2010, 11:27PM
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Crash wrote:

NO it would be great to win faceoffs but there is not guarantee when you bring in a player he is going to win faceoffs...who is to say the guys we already have can't win faceoffs...

Would you have said that Horcoff was going to be a good faceoff guy this year based on last year? How are his faceoff numbers this year?

Are you actually of the belief that adding names like Moore, Betts and Malhotra would have turned ths Oilers into a playoff contending team?

You're the only one who said playoff team. The team had obvious weaknesses in the faceoff circle even with a healthy and usefull Horcoff, they needed to add to that. They didnt, in fact they shipped out Brodziak, who was the next best faceoff man.

Are you suggesting that when looking for a proven vet who can win faceoffs they should NOT look at his career faceoff percentage? They should guess maybe? Maybe Tambi makes a little prayer and hopes for the best instead of looking at actual numbers and making an informed decision?

Sure.

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#68 Crash
February 15 2010, 11:29PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

You're missing the point, I'm not saying you said to do nothing in the summer. I'm saying if the team goes into camp EXPECTING prospects to fill roles and they then find out they can't fill them (either right out of camp or 40 games in) then those holes are far harder to fill then they would be in the summer when role players are available on the cheap. Which leaves your team at a disadvantage that could have easily been avoided.

And you're missing my point that the team is allowed 50 pro contracts no matter who the players are and if the prospect is ready to make the team better then he stays and plays...you still have 48 or so contracts to pick from if the prospect doesn't make the team. I do believe you have to have your prospects amongst those 50 contracts by a certain time or they go back in the draft...Eberle pretty much has to have a pro contract now or we risk losing him.

So he is one of the 50 we're allowed...I don't see how this changes anything in the summer.

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#69 Crash
February 15 2010, 11:38PM
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Matt Henderson wrote:

You're the only one who said playoff team. The team had obvious weaknesses in the faceoff circle even with a healthy and usefull Horcoff, they needed to add to that. They didnt, in fact they shipped out Brodziak, who was the next best faceoff man.

Are you suggesting that when looking for a proven vet who can win faceoffs they should NOT look at his career faceoff percentage? They should guess maybe? Maybe Tambi makes a little prayer and hopes for the best instead of looking at actual numbers and making an informed decision?

Sure.

Didn't Gagner improve his faceoffs this year? If Horcoff could have held up his end would there really be a problem?

Ok so if adding your faceoff guy with good career numbers wasn't going to get this team in the playoffs, what was it going to accomplish?

If this team goes into next year with all the same type of players we have this year and what I mean by that is players who don't bring much of an edge to their game or skill and scoring then you will see pretty much the same result as this year...

Doesn't matter how many good faceoff guys you bring in...if you lack skill and toughness you WILL fail.

Brodziak was another soft forward in the bottom six....we have too many of those and need to purge more of them...not add them

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#70 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 11:46PM
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Crash wrote:

I brought up those names because those are the names that you have mentioned in the past...so tell me which players were you referring to then when you talked of the available FA's that no one had signed later in the summer? Am I wrong to suggest you had Betts, Moore and Malhotra on your mind?

As for Nystrom...Nystrom would work for what we need as he brings some toughness and an edge that this team sorely needs more than a soft center who might win a faceoff.

What happens if said soft faceoff man can't win a faceoff? Then you're stuck with a one trick pony who has lost his trick and can't provide anything else.

I just want to step back and point out that your now going with the "might win a faceoff" when 2 weeks ago you were championing the "I'm just saying it's possible" bregaid regarding rookies making an impact.

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#71 Colin
February 15 2010, 11:50PM
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@WT

"wife got an autograph and picture wtih the fiddler player on the way out"

Really? I didn't know Nero....er Tambellini was down by the exit.

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#72 Crash
February 15 2010, 11:53PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

I just want to step back and point out that your now going with the "might win a faceoff" when 2 weeks ago you were championing the "I'm just saying it's possible" bregaid regarding rookies making an impact.

Not really following your point here...is it not possible for rookies to make an impact? Does this ever happen?

What are you talking about "might win a faceoff"?

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#73 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 11:56PM
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Crash wrote:

I brought up those names because those are the names that you have mentioned in the past...so tell me which players were you referring to then when you talked of the available FA's that no one had signed later in the summer? Am I wrong to suggest you had Betts, Moore and Malhotra on your mind?

As for Nystrom...Nystrom would work for what we need as he brings some toughness and an edge that this team sorely needs more than a soft center who might win a faceoff.

What happens if said soft faceoff man can't win a faceoff? Then you're stuck with a one trick pony who has lost his trick and can't provide anything else.

"I brought up those names because those are the names that you have mentioned in the past...so tell me which players were you referring to then when you talked of the available FA's that no one had signed later in the summer? Am I wrong to suggest you had Betts, Moore and Malhotra on your mind?"

Your going off on a tangent here. I brought up "late summer signings" to show that this was a buyers market, meaning that even the lowly Oilers should have had a shot at a few role players.

For specific names I wanted a:

3C: Pahlson was my first pick but he went fairly quick. Malhotra was my 2nd pick looks like he held out for a winner when he couldn't get the big ticket he wanted. Moore was my 3rd pick because he wasn't as proven and Betts was the consolation prize for more of a 4th line/PK role

3W: I was hoping the team would pick up Moen, Pyatt was my 2nd pick and a R Nieds would have been a consolation prize

2nd pairing D: Pipe dream was Komisarek if we could swap one of Gilbert/Grebs for something else. Zannon was the main guy that I thought we could resonable land.

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#74 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 11:58PM
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Crash wrote:

Not really following your point here...is it not possible for rookies to make an impact? Does this ever happen?

What are you talking about "might win a faceoff"?

Your using the possibility of rookies contributing with positive connotations while using the possibility that proven vetrans may no longer be able to do what they've proven they can do with negative connotations.

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#75 Crash
February 16 2010, 12:00AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

I just want to step back and point out that your now going with the "might win a faceoff" when 2 weeks ago you were championing the "I'm just saying it's possible" bregaid regarding rookies making an impact.

Ahh ok I see the part you are referring to...so my point is why would you go out and sign a guy...a soft player who had a good year the year before in the faceoff circle and brings nothing else to the table?

I'm not sure how that compares to the thought that it's possible for a prospect to make an impact...the fact is you have to sign your prospects or you lose them back to the draft...

you DON'T have to sign one dimensional FA's

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#76 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 16 2010, 12:08AM
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Crash wrote:

Ahh ok I see the part you are referring to...so my point is why would you go out and sign a guy...a soft player who had a good year the year before in the faceoff circle and brings nothing else to the table?

I'm not sure how that compares to the thought that it's possible for a prospect to make an impact...the fact is you have to sign your prospects or you lose them back to the draft...

you DON'T have to sign one dimensional FA's

No one is saying sign one dimentional UFA's. FO/PK/Play tough minutes. Those are multiple dimentions. Gritty play is another dimention. No one is saying stay away from gritty role players, in fact I'm pretty sure everone would be in agreement that they would want as many as those dimensions as possible. Sometimes however you have to take the best of whats available.

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#77 Crash
February 16 2010, 12:08AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

"I brought up those names because those are the names that you have mentioned in the past...so tell me which players were you referring to then when you talked of the available FA's that no one had signed later in the summer? Am I wrong to suggest you had Betts, Moore and Malhotra on your mind?"

Your going off on a tangent here. I brought up "late summer signings" to show that this was a buyers market, meaning that even the lowly Oilers should have had a shot at a few role players.

For specific names I wanted a:

3C: Pahlson was my first pick but he went fairly quick. Malhotra was my 2nd pick looks like he held out for a winner when he couldn't get the big ticket he wanted. Moore was my 3rd pick because he wasn't as proven and Betts was the consolation prize for more of a 4th line/PK role

3W: I was hoping the team would pick up Moen, Pyatt was my 2nd pick and a R Nieds would have been a consolation prize

2nd pairing D: Pipe dream was Komisarek if we could swap one of Gilbert/Grebs for something else. Zannon was the main guy that I thought we could resonable land.

Now you're starting to use some names that we could use...Moen would have worked IMO, Pyatt too....both bring size with an edge...same with Komisarek...not so much Zanon, R. Nieds or Pahlsson...wasn't really sold on Malhotra either...

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#78 Victor
February 16 2010, 01:16AM
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Robin,

Does Tambellini realize what an awful move he made with the Khabibulin signing, or does he think he's just been the victim of bad luck so far? Fans like myself knew this deal was a train wreck just waiting to happen and would do anything at this point to fix the problem. Does Tambellini share this attitude at all, or is he in denial, still locked into the idea that Khabby is "his guy?"

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#79 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
February 16 2010, 07:17AM
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6 ring circus wrote:

what then should we expect? what trades or moves do you think he should make?

i think trades will be minimal, dumping over paid, under performing, often injured vets probably wont be easy.

i do, however, think buyouts will be happening over the summer.

i think people are expecting way to many moves by july 1st. i could be wrong, and i hope i am.

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#80 Robin Brownlee
February 16 2010, 07:25AM
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Victor wrote:

Robin,

Does Tambellini realize what an awful move he made with the Khabibulin signing, or does he think he's just been the victim of bad luck so far? Fans like myself knew this deal was a train wreck just waiting to happen and would do anything at this point to fix the problem. Does Tambellini share this attitude at all, or is he in denial, still locked into the idea that Khabby is "his guy?"

He hasn't said anything to me to acknowlege it was a hummer of a signing, no "I blew it with that one."

I didn't want to give Roloson two years, and I wrote not doing it was the right move. Then they give Khabibulin four? They started down one road by not giving an old goalie multiple years and then reversed themselves with a guy almost as old and more injury prone. Made no sense then. Makes less sense now.

They haven't made a smart move with their goaltending since they shipped Tommy Salo to Denver for Tom Gilbert.

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#81 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 16 2010, 11:43AM
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@ Brownlee

So with the Panthers proposing to make big changes, what are the chances of the Oil getting Booth? Or for that matter even Ballard.

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#82 Bucknuck
February 16 2010, 02:23PM
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@Robin Brownlee

I think signing Roli for three years in '06 was a good idea.

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#83 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
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Bucknuck wrote:

I think signing Roli for three years in '06 was a good idea.

And trading for him in the first place.

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#84 Bucknuck
February 16 2010, 03:09PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

And trading for him in the first place.

no kidding - I wouldn't trade that run for the draft pick we lost.

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#85 Robin Brownlee
February 16 2010, 05:21PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

I think signing Roli for three years in '06 was a good idea.

Obviously. He was big in the 2006 playoffs. I was already talking about Roloson. I didn't think I had to say a move "aside from acquiring and signing Roloson the first time . . ."

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#86 Bucknuck
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Obviously. He was big in the 2006 playoffs. I was already talking about Roloson. I didn't think I had to say a move "aside from acquiring and signing Roloson the first time . . ."

OK. Rereading your article I see the implication there, sorry. Gotta make sure Roli gets his due.

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#87 Rob
February 17 2010, 09:11AM
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What's with the rather odd trait of Tamb the lamb posing questions and then answering them?

Q) Am I Steve Fumbellini? A) Yes I am.

Q) Am I human? A) Yes. Absolutely.

Q) Do I suck as an NHL GM. A) No fooling.

What's with this?

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#88 Reggie Dunlop
February 17 2010, 07:42PM
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Sirius XM is broadcasting AHL games now that the NHL has shutdown for 2 weeks. 1st game up is Worcester Sharks vs. Springfield Falcons. Devan Dubnyk gets lit up and the Falcons loose 6-0. The Worcester broadcaster says he'll wear the popcorn bucket on his head if they get to 7. LOL Whoever called Dubnyk over Deslaurier needs his head examined. Khabibulin at 37 yrs. old must be laughing his head off being pushed by these two. If I was him I'd milk this gig for all it's worth. On second thought, maybe he is.

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