Tambellini talks: famous last words?

Robin Brownlee
February 15 2010 05:15PM

Ice Hockey - Canada v Switzerland

Generally speaking, being all talk and no action makes you a poser. When you're the GM of the 30th-place Edmonton Oilers as Steve Tambellini is, it seems to me being all talk and no walk should get you gone.

It was interesting, then, to listen to Tambellini's interview with Gene Principe of Sportsnet on the Oilers website today. Tambellini, who hasn't done much of anything since handing Nikolai Khabibulin a four-year retirement package last summer, spoke about what he intends to do moving forward in his sit down with Principe.

It was, to my ear, relatively bold stuff in terms of Tambellini addressing the need for change and how the responsibility for making it happen is his with an Oilers outfit about to miss the playoffs for a fourth straight season.

With the green the light from owner Daryl Katz to do what it takes to begin a rebuild, something the boss reiterated in an interview with radio analyst Bob Stauffer last week, the task sits where it should, in Tambellini's lap.

Tambellini sounded convincing talking about what lies ahead between now, the trade deadline, the Entry Draft and the opening of free agency July 1. Then again, he talked the ears off reporters at the end of last season, then delivered small on some big expectations.

I'm thinking a repeat means a pink slip. And it should.

Tambi-speak

"I think it's a reflection of our entire organization's feeling," Tambellini told Principe, who'd asked about Katz's reference to the state of the franchise being "unacceptable."

"Daryl Katz has been not only supportive and caring about this hockey club. One of the first things that stood out for me is his passion for the city. He's extremely proud and wants to make a further contribution in so many different ways to grow this city and bring it back to the stature where he believes it should be.

"He mentioned this team being in last place being unacceptable. Of course it is. That's no secret to anyone here involved. Are we happy about it? No. Do we have an opportunity here to rebuild this franchise in a way that's not just for next year but many years to come? Yes, we do. That's my job."

Yes. Yes, it is. This we already know.

"My job is to look at this entire organization," he said. "I've been given the authority to do that and make this not a good organization, but a great organization. Am I pushing people in different areas of this organization? Yes, I am.

"Is it uncomfortable at times? I'm sure it's very uncomfortable. From a players' standpoint, will there be change? Of course there will be change. Can we do it by the trade deadline? I'm not sure. But I do know by the time we get to the spring and the start of next year, there'll be significant change and we'll be in a spot where we can start this rebuilding process."

So, what to do?

"From a players' standpoint, the trade deadline is step one," Tambellini said of March 3. "We'll see what we can do to change or move some of the pieces that we have in place. Everyone is aware of that and clear that there will be change there. We have the draft and July 1."

Walking the walk

Unloading Ethan Moreau at the deadline seems a necessity. If there's somebody to take Steve Staios and Fernando Pisani, by then as opposed to later in the summer, all the better.

At the draft, assuming things go as they've gone so far, Tambellini's first order of business is to not bugger up one of the first two picks with a hunch about a Swiss forward. Thanks, Captain Obvious.

Tambellini has to do more than call the name of Taylor Hall or Tyler Seguin. He has to find a way to move either Sheldon Souray or Tom Gilbert at something approaching fair value (which won't be easy given the seasons they've had). Not both, but one. Do that, and fans might start buying in.

As for free agency July 1, Tambellini must, and I expect will, consider buy-outs for spare parts he can't move. He'll have to get a read on the state of Khabibulin's back. Trade Patrick O'Sullivan? He has to address holes in the line-up. Remember that face-off guy? Grit?

That's not the entirety of what promises to be a lengthy laundry list, but it's plenty, given Tambellini's inability to pull the trigger on much since he took over from Kevin Lowe.

"Are we going to be able to do everything in a couple months here? No, this is going to be a process, there's no question about that," Tambellini said.

"I understand that. I know the people of Edmonton understand that. I know they're not looking for a quick-fix type of weekend where we fix the Oilers. This is going to take some time.

"I know it's going to be extremely painful at times, but the end result is going to be terrific. I know what the end result is going to look like, and that's going to take some time."

I wouldn't take too much time to get started down that road to "terrific" if I was Tambellini. It's difficult to get there from the unemployment line.

This and that

-- If the Oilers didn't have brutal luck with illness and injuries, they wouldn't have any luck at all. A bizarre mishap on the AHL farm Springfield just added to that.

Alex Plante, who had a decent stint here with the Oilers, is out with a concussion after colliding with teammate Kip Brennan during the warm-up for a game against Providence Saturday.

Plante and Brennan were doing 3-on-2 line rushes as part of the warm-up when they ran into each other. The impact knocked Plante out cold.

"It's just one of those things, but I've never seen it before in all my years," said Springfield coach Rob Daum. "I don't know how long he'll be out. We haven't had much good luck."

-- While the Oilers will have lots of eyes an ears at the Olympics, some of them on Jaromir Jagr, there's another player who they'll be gawking at, as will other NHL teams.

Keep an eye on Czech Republic forward Roman Cervenka, an undrafted 24-year-old who might turn out to be a player for somebody.

Cervenka never got a sniff during his draft year because he was ridiculously small at five-foot-seven and 127 pounds. That's not a mis-print. He was a-buck-27 as a teenager.

At five-foot-11 and 187 pounds now, Cervenka's looking like a late-bloomer. In 48 games with Slavia Praha this season, Cervenka has scored 30-41-71 to lead the team in scoring.

-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Wednesday and Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on the Jason Gregor Show on TEAM 1260.

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#1 Eric Johnson
February 15 2010, 05:18PM
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FIST!

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#2 Eric Johnson
February 15 2010, 05:19PM
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My god am I ever on a fisting streak!....

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#3 Wanye
February 15 2010, 05:23PM
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Eric Johnson wrote:

My god am I ever on a fisting streak!....

That's what she said.

*claps once, so loud the fourth olympic pillar rises*

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#4 Eric Johnson
February 15 2010, 05:26PM
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@Wanye

"*claps once, so loud the fourth olympic pillar rises*"

How did you know what I call it?

Get out of my room!

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#5 Gerald R. Ford
February 15 2010, 05:51PM
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@Wanye

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo6/Clivetyolar/ebjiX.jpg

For you, O' Leader.

Also, the winter of our discontent is not sparing ANY Oil fan from its wrath:

Kevin Smith got booted off a SW Airlines flight for being too fat, and he's all over CNN about it with his Oilers gear on the home page, front and centre. So, now the world thinks we suck AND we're obese. Awesome.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/15/kevin.smith.southwest/index.html?hpt=C1

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#6 Eric Johnson
February 15 2010, 05:52PM
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My hope is that the boys in charge are not as dumb as they seem and this season being in the tank was maybe accidental at first but I think they realized early this would be an opportunity to get their first shot at a legitimate franchise player in the draft in many years.

Thats my hope anyway....

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#7 Reggie Dunlop
February 15 2010, 06:09PM
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You have stated Robin that you're not exactly sold on the Oiler's management team being capable of rebuilding the team. The sorry state of the farm team and parent club surely rests on this current bunch of mis-managers who can't see the forest for the trees. While the on-ice product is getting revamped, I think a long, hard look in the mirror is required by the owner (Katz). His hand picked management team at the controls is pretty scarey stuff. Another few miscues and this could turn into the perpetual rebuilding machine, or the Toronto Maple Leafs organization as we know them today.

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#8 Robin Brownlee
February 15 2010, 06:16PM
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Reggie Dunlop wrote:

You have stated Robin that you're not exactly sold on the Oiler's management team being capable of rebuilding the team. The sorry state of the farm team and parent club surely rests on this current bunch of mis-managers who can't see the forest for the trees. While the on-ice product is getting revamped, I think a long, hard look in the mirror is required by the owner (Katz). His hand picked management team at the controls is pretty scarey stuff. Another few miscues and this could turn into the perpetual rebuilding machine, or the Toronto Maple Leafs organization as we know them today.

Tambellini has given fans no reason to believe he's got a long-range vision for this team and is capable of carrying it out. Sometimes two years isn't enough and sometimes it's too much. In Tambellini's case, unless he changes my mind between now and July 1, I'm leaning big-time to the latter.

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#9 6 ring circus
February 15 2010, 06:19PM
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Robin,do you think the Katz and Tamballini interviews have anything to do with fan support dropping?I was at last nights game and there where alot of empty seats,I know this has alot to do with the teams performance but do you think the management is starting to get worried that this is snow balling into fan support and revenue dropping?

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#10 jeanshorts
February 15 2010, 06:19PM
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That kid has 71 points already? Holy crow. Sign him up!

Although knowing our luck he'll be more Fabian Brunnstrum than Henrik Zetterberg.

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#11 The Real Scuba Steve
February 15 2010, 06:24PM
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It is big talk and no action is why we are in last place, I would not be surprise if we are the same boat this time next year.

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#12 Dave
February 15 2010, 06:31PM
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I think it would be a mistake to usher Tambellini to the unemployment line without one more year at it. Personally i didnt think it was a bad idea keeping mostly the same team intact for the beginning of this season. Then illness and injuries mounted and players grossly underperformed. Contracts egregiously disproportianate to players value with long terms and Tambellini is hand cuffed. I want to see what happens over the summer and the course of next season before passing judgement.

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#13 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 06:39PM
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Sutter turned over 25% of his roster in 5 days.... theirs no reason Tambellini can't turn over 50% of his in 6 months.

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#14 6 ring circus
February 15 2010, 07:13PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Sutter turned over 25% of his roster in 5 days.... theirs no reason Tambellini can't turn over 50% of his in 6 months.

Give Tambellini time will ya,he is still assesing.

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#15 Crash
February 15 2010, 07:20PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Sutter turned over 25% of his roster in 5 days.... theirs no reason Tambellini can't turn over 50% of his in 6 months.

Yah he did, but did he improve them?....I don't think he did. They are basically Kipper reliable....

I hope I'm wrong and the Oilers can be made better for next season but it may be much tougher than just saying it...it could be awhile...a lot really does depend on how quickly the prospects turn out...the quicker the better so as to attract FA's here.

Buckle in Oiler fans....it looks like sweeping changes are coming.

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#16 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 07:24PM
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Crash wrote:

Yah he did, but did he improve them?....I don't think he did. They are basically Kipper reliable....

I hope I'm wrong and the Oilers can be made better for next season but it may be much tougher than just saying it...it could be awhile...a lot really does depend on how quickly the prospects turn out...the quicker the better so as to attract FA's here.

Buckle in Oiler fans....it looks like sweeping changes are coming.

"Yah he did, but did he improve them"

I guess we'll find out if they go more then one round.

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#17 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 07:25PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

Give Tambellini time will ya,he is still assesing.

My personal deadline is mid July, otherwise we'll be in for another 2/3 years of rebuilding.

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#18 Crash
February 15 2010, 07:26PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

"Yah he did, but did he improve them"

I guess we'll find out if they go more then one round.

True enough, or even make the playoffs.

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#19 Crash
February 15 2010, 07:30PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

My personal deadline is mid July, otherwise we'll be in for another 2/3 years of rebuilding.

If players won't sign here then we just may have to wait 2/3 yrs and that's if our prospects turn out fine otherwise it could be even longer no matter who the GM is....

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#20 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 07:52PM
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Crash wrote:

If players won't sign here then we just may have to wait 2/3 yrs and that's if our prospects turn out fine otherwise it could be even longer no matter who the GM is....

I'd like to think we could at least attract role players.

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#21 jake
February 15 2010, 08:07PM
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Tambellini seems like he is interviewing himself, asks himself all the questions. I'll also give him til mid-july to do some things.

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#22 WT
February 15 2010, 08:12PM
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WT went to the game last night, section 130, row 15. WT took his wife with him and walked up to Ticketmaster and asked for tickets, sorry, he is told, all sold out. Just then this guy comes up to WT and says he has two tickets to the game,$147/ticket. He said there yours for $50 total. WT sits down with his wife and the guy who sold the tickets sits next to him. He proceeds to tell WT he just comes to get hammered by the third period. Sure enough the third period roles around and the guy is wasted. Actually most people in the area were wasted by the third period. Conclusion, fans are going to the games to get wasted watching this young fast team. Just keep getting younger and younger and Oil President will keep drawing in younger and younger fans who will do nothing but spend money on booze. Who needs the Big Valley Jambore when you have the Oil.

Ps. WT' wife got an autograph and picture wtih the fiddler player on the way out.

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#23 Eddie Shore
February 15 2010, 08:17PM
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Looks like he is finally done "assessing". Lets see if he can work some magic now.

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#24 Matt Henderson
February 15 2010, 08:18PM
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I am now cheering for Cervenka. I too was an undersized 18 yr old. When I graduated Highschool I was 135 lbs. I now sit at a fit* 210lbs. Go Cervenka!

*lies

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#25 Eddie Shore
February 15 2010, 08:27PM
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@Matt Henderson

He might be the real deal.. there are basically no videos of him on youtube. That's a good sign... right?

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#26 Wanye
February 15 2010, 08:28PM
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Gerald R. Ford wrote:

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo6/Clivetyolar/ebjiX.jpg

For you, O' Leader.

Also, the winter of our discontent is not sparing ANY Oil fan from its wrath:

Kevin Smith got booted off a SW Airlines flight for being too fat, and he's all over CNN about it with his Oilers gear on the home page, front and centre. So, now the world thinks we suck AND we're obese. Awesome.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/15/kevin.smith.southwest/index.html?hpt=C1

For Heaven's sakes. How on earth to the Oilers get dragged into this mess? The subliminal messages off of this are brutal.

Someone get someone tough into Oilers gear and run them in front of TMZ stat.

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#27 6 ring circus
February 15 2010, 08:33PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

My personal deadline is mid July, otherwise we'll be in for another 2/3 years of rebuilding.

Mine is July 2nd,what will you do if Tambellini does nothing? I am not renewing my tickets,if he sits still and does nothing,I am tired of all the BS.

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#28 Crash
February 15 2010, 08:33PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

I'd like to think we could at least attract role players.

Ask yourself, if you were a good role player would you sign here if you had other choices....the answer is probably....maybe, if they pay me lots...

So then if the Oilers pay lots what will be said then around here? It won't be pretty.

If we do sign role players, I hope they are kick ass role players and not more small forwards or bigger forwards who play soft.

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#29 6 ring circus
February 15 2010, 08:37PM
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Eddie Shore wrote:

Looks like he is finally done "assessing". Lets see if he can work some magic now.

I will believe it when I see him trading,talk is cheap,what happened to all the changes he said where going to happen at the end of last year?

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#30 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
February 15 2010, 08:37PM
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Eddie Shore wrote:

Looks like he is finally done "assessing". Lets see if he can work some magic now.

you forgot about the post analysis analysis that will surely take an addtional 6 months to compile, re-pile, and re-file all the data collected during the current 18month analysis.

after which, the action can begin.

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#31 Eddie Shore
February 15 2010, 08:38PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

Mine is July 2nd,what will you do if Tambellini does nothing? I am not renewing my tickets,if he sits still and does nothing,I am tired of all the BS.

I mean this in all sincerity, but what is it you'd like to see done by July 2nd that will convince you either way to renew or not?

I think the season ticket holders that do not renew will be kicking themselves in a few years when they will be unable to get seats at all because, in theory, the team will be competitive again.

I find it at least a little promising now that Tambellini has finally realized this team is crap and work needs to be done. I'm trying to remain optimistic...

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#32 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 08:41PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

Mine is July 2nd,what will you do if Tambellini does nothing? I am not renewing my tickets,if he sits still and does nothing,I am tired of all the BS.

I'll complain on here a bit, other then that sadly nothing I can do.

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#33 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 08:43PM
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Crash wrote:

Ask yourself, if you were a good role player would you sign here if you had other choices....the answer is probably....maybe, if they pay me lots...

So then if the Oilers pay lots what will be said then around here? It won't be pretty.

If we do sign role players, I hope they are kick ass role players and not more small forwards or bigger forwards who play soft.

Their were role players sitting around waiting for contracts into September last year, I'm confident this summer will be the same.

It's discount days (last summer/this summer) on 3rd liners/5th dmen... it's time we took advantage of it. Also, I'm not worried about "overpaying" (withen reason) for pieces that we actually need. Assuming the "big 3" prospects are for real and even 1-2 more from the suspect pool can step in, in the next year or two the cap will not be an issue for the Oil.

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#34 6 ring circus
February 15 2010, 08:54PM
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Eddie Shore wrote:

I mean this in all sincerity, but what is it you'd like to see done by July 2nd that will convince you either way to renew or not?

I think the season ticket holders that do not renew will be kicking themselves in a few years when they will be unable to get seats at all because, in theory, the team will be competitive again.

I find it at least a little promising now that Tambellini has finally realized this team is crap and work needs to be done. I'm trying to remain optimistic...

Moreau,Staios,O'sullivan,Cogliano,out bye march 03,2010,Souray and Grebeshkov traded at the draft,buy out Nilsson,do not resign Pisani and Strudwick,also decisions need to be made on Jacques and Pouliot.Tambellini should also sign Gagner,Brule and Comrie.Is this to much to ask bye July 02,2010?

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#35 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
February 15 2010, 08:55PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

Moreau,Staios,O'sullivan,Cogliano,out bye march 03,2010,Souray and Grebeshkov traded at the draft,buy out Nilsson,do not resign Pisani and Strudwick,also decisions need to be made on Jacques and Pouliot.Tambellini should also sign Gagner,Brule and Comrie.Is this to much to ask bye July 02,2010?

yes

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#36 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 09:02PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

Moreau,Staios,O'sullivan,Cogliano,out bye march 03,2010,Souray and Grebeshkov traded at the draft,buy out Nilsson,do not resign Pisani and Strudwick,also decisions need to be made on Jacques and Pouliot.Tambellini should also sign Gagner,Brule and Comrie.Is this to much to ask bye July 02,2010?

Looks reasonable, though I would guess Cogs/O'sully would be more likely to move in the summer.

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#37 6 ring circus
February 15 2010, 09:03PM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

yes

what then should we expect? what trades or moves do you think he should make?

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#38 Crash
February 15 2010, 09:11PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

Moreau,Staios,O'sullivan,Cogliano,out bye march 03,2010,Souray and Grebeshkov traded at the draft,buy out Nilsson,do not resign Pisani and Strudwick,also decisions need to be made on Jacques and Pouliot.Tambellini should also sign Gagner,Brule and Comrie.Is this to much to ask bye July 02,2010?

Sign Comrie?...god no, please no more pip squeak signings...we already have enough small and/or soft forwards....

Hemsky, Penner, Gagner, Brule, Horcoff, Eberle, Hall/Seguin...that's already 7 forwards without signing Comrie.....we need some grit and nastiness

Don't be surprised if nothing happens by trade deadline day...Moreau, O'Sullivan and Nilsson may have to be bought out or waived...We may not be able to trade Souray. Vishnovsky might be a better bet. I agree about not resigning Pisani and Strudwick. I think the same should go for Pouliot and Grebeshkov if no one will trade for their rights. But if we dump all of these guys we need players to replace them...who are all of these players going to be?...especially if we can't get anything back for all the guys you want to dump. Cogliano might be a good trading chip at the draft and not as much at the trade deadline.

This team may have to go with a lineup full of prospects next season. If we dump all of the players who everyone wants dumped.

It's easy to dump players...the hard part is replacing them with something you want.

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#39 6 ring circus
February 15 2010, 09:25PM
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@Crash

There is no guarantee Eberle and Hall/Seguin will be here playing come October,The last thing this organization needs to do is rush a couple of blue chip prospects, let them start out in the AHl and then bring them up,trading the veterans and some of the young guns will bring players and picks back to us.A healthy Comrie would be good for this team, I would sign him for 1 year and if it works out, I would extend the contract at seasons end.

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#40 Crash
February 15 2010, 09:32PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Their were role players sitting around waiting for contracts into September last year, I'm confident this summer will be the same.

It's discount days (last summer/this summer) on 3rd liners/5th dmen... it's time we took advantage of it. Also, I'm not worried about "overpaying" (withen reason) for pieces that we actually need. Assuming the "big 3" prospects are for real and even 1-2 more from the suspect pool can step in, in the next year or two the cap will not be an issue for the Oil.

Which role players were left sitting around? Betts? Malhotra? Moore?....just what we need, more soft players to add to the lineup at inflated prices...we already had that here...Pisani, Moreau, Potulny....not sure why we want more of it...honestly ask yourself if they make a lick of difference to this team without Hemsky, Khabby, Souray, Comrie, Smid (all of which have missed significant time), etc.

Who is to say that those players weren't approached and wanted sick amounts of $$ to come here? Or maybe they even said no thanks I will wait for a different offer.

If the Oilers dump as many players as everyone wants dumped we just might have to sign left overs and it might cost us big $$ too. Then everyone here will flip their lids. This team may have to welcome more prospects in here next than they want to....

Hopefully we can parlay guys like POS, Pouliot, Grebeshkov, Cogliano and possibly some picks into some useful players and maybe the Oilers might be able to convince a couple of UFA's to sign here...my preference being Ott/Armstrong/Hamhuis. But I hope people realize we will have to pay to get them.

But maybe it won't happen....it's easier said than done.

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#41 Matt Henderson
February 15 2010, 09:32PM
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@6 ring circus

Either Hall or Seguin would be back in junior if not here. But i agree with you on Eberle. The fact is that the Oilers would probably call him up part way through the season anyway, given how often our guys get hurt.

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#42 Crash
February 15 2010, 09:37PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

There is no guarantee Eberle and Hall/Seguin will be here playing come October,The last thing this organization needs to do is rush a couple of blue chip prospects, let them start out in the AHl and then bring them up,trading the veterans and some of the young guns will bring players and picks back to us.A healthy Comrie would be good for this team, I would sign him for 1 year and if it works out, I would extend the contract at seasons end.

Name me the last #1 overall pick that spent any time in the AHL?

By all means if Eberle and Hall/Seguin aren't NHL ready then yes send them to the AHL but by no means should they go there just for the sake of going there. There are tons of examples in numerous NHL cities whereby their best prospects didn't spend any time in the AHL or at the very least spent just a handful of games in the AHL...tons

Why is everyone so quick to send our best prospects to the minors already?...do not pass go do not collect an NHL paycheck....it boggles my mind

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#43 Heavyd
February 15 2010, 09:41PM
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@Eric Johnson

Do you still have your watch?

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#44 Crash
February 15 2010, 09:47PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

There is no guarantee Eberle and Hall/Seguin will be here playing come October,The last thing this organization needs to do is rush a couple of blue chip prospects, let them start out in the AHl and then bring them up,trading the veterans and some of the young guns will bring players and picks back to us.A healthy Comrie would be good for this team, I would sign him for 1 year and if it works out, I would extend the contract at seasons end.

What players and what kind of picks do you expect to get for all of these players that many of us are deeming not useful anymore or that are getting older and injury prone...or are lazy and super soft?

There is no magic wand....do I hope it happens and we can trade Souray, Grebeshkov, Moreau, Pisani, Pouliot, etc. and land a bunch of useful players and picks?

Oh yes I sure do but let's be realistic...what do you expect the Oilers to get back for all of the players that you want to dump?

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#45 john
February 15 2010, 09:51PM
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Robin, if Tambi has the right to do everything now does that mean that K. Lowe is out?

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#46 6 ring circus
February 15 2010, 10:02PM
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Crosby,malkin and Fluery would be a good start. You know I am joking right? Souray a 2nd or 3rd round pick and a good d man prospect,Grebeshkov a pick or a prospect,Moreau a 4th or 5th rounder,Pisani nothing he is a ufa at seasons end,Pouliot I would trade him for a 4 or 5th rounder,We have to be realastic and so does Tambellini, if he over values our players nothings going to happen. If he wants to make changes then this is a start.Package the picks and some of our left overs to make trades and some F/a signings in the summer to fill out the remainder of the roster it can be done.

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#47 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 15 2010, 10:08PM
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Which role players were left sitting around? Betts? Malhotra? Moore?....just what we need, more soft players to add to the lineup at inflated prices...we already had that here...Pisani, Moreau, Potulny....not sure why we want more of it...honestly ask yourself if they make a lick of difference to this team without Hemsky, Khabby, Souray, Comrie, Smid (all of which have missed significant time), etc.

Who is to say that those players weren't approached and wanted sick amounts of $$ to come here? Or maybe they even said no thanks I will wait for a different offer.

If the Oilers dump as many players as everyone wants dumped we just might have to sign left overs and it might cost us big $$ too. Then everyone here will flip their lids. This team may have to welcome more prospects in here next than they want to....

Hopefully we can parlay guys like POS, Pouliot, Grebeshkov, Cogliano and possibly some picks into some useful players and maybe the Oilers might be able to convince a couple of UFA's to sign here...my preference being Ott/Armstrong/Hamhuis. But I hope people realize we will have to pay to get them.

But maybe it won't happen....it's easier said than done.

Those guys aren't soft, POS/Nilsson/Cogliano are soft.

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#48 Crash
February 15 2010, 10:10PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

Crosby,malkin and Fluery would be a good start. You know I am joking right? Souray a 2nd or 3rd round pick and a good d man prospect,Grebeshkov a pick or a prospect,Moreau a 4th or 5th rounder,Pisani nothing he is a ufa at seasons end,Pouliot I would trade him for a 4 or 5th rounder,We have to be realastic and so does Tambellini, if he over values our players nothings going to happen. If he wants to make changes then this is a start.Package the picks and some of our left overs to make trades and some F/a signings in the summer to fill out the remainder of the roster it can be done.

Ok fair enough...but you didn't add any actual players in those trades that can step in with the team next year and you traded Souray, Grebeshkov, Moreau, Pouliot. This is what I've been saying....

I do hope we can sign some FA's too but keep in mind why would any FA's come here? The only way to get them if we can get them at all is to overpay them.....and that usually gets everyone here all in a tither....I for one am ok with overpayment for the right guys..

But what you may see here next year are some of the prospects...it all depends on how many guys we end up dumping and for what...

Possibly we can use a Coglano and a pick or two to get some players from a team or two that need to dump some salary...ie: Chicago

I just hope people realize that it's easier to dump guys you don't want than it is to add guys you do want and that will improve things

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#49 Giggsunited
February 15 2010, 10:12PM
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john wrote:

Robin, if Tambi has the right to do everything now does that mean that K. Lowe is out?

he was never in? god people!

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#50 Crash
February 15 2010, 10:18PM
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Crash wrote: Which role players were left sitting around? Betts? Malhotra? Moore?....just what we need, more soft players to add to the lineup at inflated prices...we already had that here...Pisani, Moreau, Potulny....not sure why we want more of it...honestly ask yourself if they make a lick of difference to this team without Hemsky, Khabby, Souray, Comrie, Smid (all of which have missed significant time), etc.

Who is to say that those players weren't approached and wanted sick amounts of $$ to come here? Or maybe they even said no thanks I will wait for a different offer.

If the Oilers dump as many players as everyone wants dumped we just might have to sign left overs and it might cost us big $$ too. Then everyone here will flip their lids. This team may have to welcome more prospects in here next than they want to....

Hopefully we can parlay guys like POS, Pouliot, Grebeshkov, Cogliano and possibly some picks into some useful players and maybe the Oilers might be able to convince a couple of UFA's to sign here...my preference being Ott/Armstrong/Hamhuis. But I hope people realize we will have to pay to get them.

But maybe it won't happen....it's easier said than done.

Those guys aren't soft, POS/Nilsson/Cogliano are soft.

Uh yah, those guys (Betts, Malhotra, Moore) are soft too and aren't hard to play against. Moore has 18 PIM's, Malhotra 16 PIM's, Betts 12 PIM's...it doesn't get much softer than that. They sure as hell don't scare anyone.

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