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RossCreekNation
February 16 2010 07:32PM

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#51 Archaeologuy
February 16 2010, 09:58PM
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@Jonathan Willis

If he can carve out a Reasoner-like career he should be proud.

I dont know what the Oilers should do with Pouliot this offseason. I would lean towards keeping him as a cheap 3rd/4th line option.

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#52 Jonathan Willis
February 16 2010, 10:05PM
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@ Archaeologuy:

That's more or less my take too. He's got some things in short supply on the roster, and while he's not an important player he's dirt cheap (or should be).

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#53 Colin
February 16 2010, 10:07PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

If he can carve out a Reasoner-like career he should be proud.

I dont know what the Oilers should do with Pouliot this offseason. I would lean towards keeping him as a cheap 3rd/4th line option.

Plus we would be left hanging on the scatalogical references without him.

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#54 Bill Rizer
February 16 2010, 10:09PM
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My thoughts:

Is Gord Miller the best play by play man available for the Canada game? I feel like he should be announcing University Hockey.

Why do we have to listen to Pierre? Damn you NBC for not stealing him and making him exclusive to your telecast. I wish someone would crosscheck that guy while he's between the benches.

Gene Principe? Those tidbits sure were interesting. Yikes.

And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the mindless wonder Nick Kypreos. I'm not sure there's any lights on, but there's definitely nobody home.

Watching Team Canada muted is annoying.

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#55 David S
February 16 2010, 10:30PM
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Bill Rizer wrote:

My thoughts:

Is Gord Miller the best play by play man available for the Canada game? I feel like he should be announcing University Hockey.

Why do we have to listen to Pierre? Damn you NBC for not stealing him and making him exclusive to your telecast. I wish someone would crosscheck that guy while he's between the benches.

Gene Principe? Those tidbits sure were interesting. Yikes.

And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the mindless wonder Nick Kypreos. I'm not sure there's any lights on, but there's definitely nobody home.

Watching Team Canada muted is annoying.

And the Russians get Ray Ferraro.

*facepalm*

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#56 David S
February 16 2010, 10:33PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

What were the odds I was willingly watching figure skating without my wife? One of those little trades you make for watching the hockey game.

Ha ha Jonathan!

If you take the inherent gayness out of the performance, they're wicked athletes. But you really have to work hard to see past it (the gayness).

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#57 Archaeologuy
February 16 2010, 10:35PM
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Ha ha Jonathan!

If you take the inherent gayness out of the performance, they're wicked athletes. But you really have to work hard to see past it (the gayness).

Just remind yourself. Johnny Weir is a WAYYYYYYYYYYY better athlete than you've ever been. Then go do something manly....just not man-on-manly.

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#58 Serious Gord
February 16 2010, 10:44PM
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Watching the rooshans beat-up Latvia. Jayzus they look good and they seem to be on a mission.

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#59 bigrroberto
February 16 2010, 10:54PM
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And the Russians get Ray Ferraro.

*facepalm*

Ray Ferraro was sitting right behind me on Friday night (12th) watching his son Landon play for the Red Deer Rebels. I wanted to chat with him between periods, but other people beat me to him lol. His kid's good, first star again.

Go Canada!

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#60 bigrroberto
February 16 2010, 10:56PM
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oh and I thought this was the WINTER Olympics... why are the Russians diving?

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#61 Aleslav Smidsky
February 16 2010, 11:02PM
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@bigrroberto

Just to screw Canada out of more medals they want but can't get.

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#62 Wanyes bastard child
February 16 2010, 11:06PM
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@David S

Whats the score?

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#63 Senator Theo
February 16 2010, 11:22PM
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@bigroberto

I was going to go to that game but couldn't make it - how was eberle?

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#64 Serious gord
February 16 2010, 11:27PM
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Russians are struggling in second period. Latvia is a way better team than Norway and they never give up especially against their former colonists. They seem to be exploiting what has been pointed to as the Russians weakness from the beginning - defence. This team is beatable if cda can skate with them and hammer them every chance they get. The Russians have talent to burn but they play a very choreographed stlye that physical play can throw off with disastrous results.

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#65 David S
February 16 2010, 11:28PM
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Wanyes bastard child wrote:

Whats the score?

4-0 Russia

I always feel bad for teams like the Latvians. Its like watching The Oilers, except something like 2 billion people are watching this epic failure.

Maybe there should be gold medals for each of tier 1 and 2. Or a "super" gold medal for winning tier 1, I dunno. It just doesn't seem fair.

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#66 David S
February 16 2010, 11:32PM
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H wrote:

RB Wrote

Resist the urge to be a weasel and slip in cheap shots at MY MAN Deslauriers every chance you get (which you\'ve been doing). I\'m monitoring you, smart guy. Don\'t make me hit the button.

Jesus F*cking Christ you\'re a douche, someone doesnt like JDD so you threaten a ban. I officially am done with this site (besides Wanye\'s articles, classic) as they encourage you to act like a child on the internets

Relax. Robin was just giving me the gears, as witnessed by his emphasis on "MY MAN". Holy crap it gets serious here on the internets.

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#67 Wanyes bastard child
February 16 2010, 11:40PM
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David S wrote:

4-0 Russia

I always feel bad for teams like the Latvians. Its like watching The Oilers, except something like 2 billion people are watching this epic failure.

Maybe there should be gold medals for each of tier 1 and 2. Or a "super" gold medal for winning tier 1, I dunno. It just doesn't seem fair.

To be honest, I don't think it will be a bad thing if the NHL doesn't go to the next winter olympics.

I mean it makes for spectacular hockey and all but like you said "It just doesn't seem fair" and the awesome hockey only happens in the medal rounds.

Even without the NHL there im sure countries will still have exciting teams and we will still get good hockey games, maybe even better, or at least a better tourny that doesn't revolve around a few games...

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#68 David S
February 16 2010, 11:48PM
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Wanyes bastard child wrote:

To be honest, I don't think it will be a bad thing if the NHL doesn't go to the next winter olympics.

I mean it makes for spectacular hockey and all but like you said "It just doesn't seem fair" and the awesome hockey only happens in the medal rounds.

Even without the NHL there im sure countries will still have exciting teams and we will still get good hockey games, maybe even better, or at least a better tourny that doesn't revolve around a few games...

I'm all for a super tournament. The best in the world going at it. But maybe there should be two divisions or something.

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#69 David S
February 16 2010, 11:50PM
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YAY LATVIA!!!!!!!

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#70 bigrroberto
February 16 2010, 11:52PM
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Senator Theo wrote:

@bigroberto

I was going to go to that game but couldn't make it - how was eberle?

Good game overall, for Red Deer.

Eberle had a few good moments, but for the most part was invisible. To me its alot like watching Iginla play. If Eberle had some better more consistant teammates he'd be better.

His average play could have been a number of things, but I think most of it has to do with the fact that he was going against Petrovic on defence all night. He's a beast.

Im slightly worried that Eberle isnt the game breaker that everyone's hoping he will be. Based on what I saw at the game, he looks like someone who's better with better players around him. I havent watched him enough through the season to make an educated opinion on that though.

Bottom line: I went in expecting more from him, but you could tell he's much better than most players on the ice.

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#71 bigrroberto
February 16 2010, 11:55PM
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There's definately obvious holes on this Russian defence. I'm confident if Canada was to play a patient game they could expose them. If they end up getting into a end to end type of game it could get scary.

Nabokov looks... well he's goodm but I thought the goals were weak, especially the first one.

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#72 David S
February 17 2010, 12:20AM
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Holy god! Jennifer Hedger. Mmmmmmm!!!

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#73 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 17 2010, 01:00AM
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Senator Theo wrote:

@bigroberto

I was going to go to that game but couldn't make it - how was eberle?

Unfortunatly he didn't do much.

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#74 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 17 2010, 01:02AM
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bigrroberto wrote:

Good game overall, for Red Deer.

Eberle had a few good moments, but for the most part was invisible. To me its alot like watching Iginla play. If Eberle had some better more consistant teammates he'd be better.

His average play could have been a number of things, but I think most of it has to do with the fact that he was going against Petrovic on defence all night. He's a beast.

Im slightly worried that Eberle isnt the game breaker that everyone's hoping he will be. Based on what I saw at the game, he looks like someone who's better with better players around him. I havent watched him enough through the season to make an educated opinion on that though.

Bottom line: I went in expecting more from him, but you could tell he's much better than most players on the ice.

He really was invisable, he looked like an opportunisty scorer that didn't (couldn't?) make his own opportunities. Which like you said may indicate he needs strong line-mates to be productive.

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#75 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
February 17 2010, 06:53AM
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Senator Theo wrote:

Sure Jerome had a great game, but popping Norwegian Wood against a team like this tonight doesn't exactly put him in the Canadian Olympic Hall of Fame yet!

Does anyone remember who the poster here was that watched a game with someone that thought he was Irish (Jarro McGinla)? I say that in my head now everytime I hear his name.

Ha! Yeah, that was my buddy Ryan.

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#76 Robin Brownlee
February 17 2010, 07:22AM
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David S wrote:

Relax. Robin was just giving me the gears, as witnessed by his emphasis on "MY MAN". Holy crap it gets serious here on the internets.

I'm glad you caught that part about MY MAN Deslauriers. Apparently, H and Smidsky are slow on the uptake. Probably MY FAULT for not using stupid smiley symbols (like you did).

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#77 Crash
February 17 2010, 08:40AM
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Senator Theo wrote:

@bigroberto

I was going to go to that game but couldn't make it - how was eberle?

His skill as a puok handler and shooter were evident in the game. He creates offense and can turn on a dime with the puck on his stick. He goes to the net and you can clearly see how he is able to score goals. You could see by the type of shots he was taking that his has great hockey sense. There was one shot in particular when he had the puck on down low on the PP and the goaltender was crouched down low protecting the post. There was a small opening up over his shoulder and Eberle took the shot. It's the type of shot that is pretty much a guaranteed goal if he hits the spot because the goaltender was in a position that he would not be able to react to the shot. On this occasion he missed but I'm willing to bet quite often he doesn't.

He kills penalties and is on the PP. He goes to the net, works the corner and behind the net to generate chances. He was clearly more skilled than anyone on the ice although Nugent-Hopkins and Landon Ferraro looked pretty good too.

I don't what these other guys on here were watching but Eberle looked pretty good to me. I guess unless he's actually pumping in 2 pts every night other people believe he doesn't do much....

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#78 Crash
February 17 2010, 08:50AM
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Senator Theo wrote:

@bigroberto

I was going to go to that game but couldn't make it - how was eberle?

After proof reading I corrected my errors, my bad:

His skill as a puck handler and shooter were evident in the game. He creates offense and can turn on a dime with the puck on his stick. He goes to the net and you can clearly see how he is able to score goals. You could see by the type of shots he was taking that he has great hockey sense. There was one shot in particular when he had the puck down low on the PP and the goaltender was crouched down low protecting the post. There was a small opening up over his shoulder and Eberle took the shot. It's the type of shot that is pretty much a guaranteed goal if he hits the spot because the goaltender was in a position that he would not be able to react to the shot. On this occasion he missed but I'm willing to bet quite often he doesn't.

He kills penalties and quite often got his stick in the passing lanes and broke up opportunities by Red Deer on the PP. He goes to the net, works the corner and behind the net to generate chances. He was clearly more skilled than anyone on the ice although Nugent-Hopkins and Landon Ferraro looked pretty good too.

I don't know what these other guys on here were watching but Eberle looked pretty good to me even though he didn't get any points in the game.

I guess unless he's actually pumping in 2 pts every night other people believe he doesn't do much....

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#79 rubbertrout
February 17 2010, 08:53AM
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Bill Rizer wrote:

My thoughts:

Is Gord Miller the best play by play man available for the Canada game? I feel like he should be announcing University Hockey.

Why do we have to listen to Pierre? Damn you NBC for not stealing him and making him exclusive to your telecast. I wish someone would crosscheck that guy while he's between the benches.

Gene Principe? Those tidbits sure were interesting. Yikes.

And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the mindless wonder Nick Kypreos. I'm not sure there's any lights on, but there's definitely nobody home.

Watching Team Canada muted is annoying.

At the strat of the 2nd period MaGuire kepts using the word "hard" with such homoeroticism it was freaking me out. Then I saw Johnny Weir and was very confused.

Kypreos sounds way more intelligent when he sits next to Doug McLean. i wonder how that works?

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#80 Nesquik
February 17 2010, 09:23AM
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@Bill Rizer

do you have RDS? I went there 5 minutes in, hockey is much more exciting in french!

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#81 BUCK75
February 17 2010, 09:32AM
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@David S

I was willing to give most of the guys the benefit of the doubt, but when Johnny Weir skates out in black lace covered in hot pink tassles outfit it's kinda tough.

The clincher for me was when Elizabeth Manley said he was searching all over YVR for pink bathmats for his room @ the village.

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#82 Aleslav Smidsky
February 17 2010, 09:52AM
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Good Morning Nation.

I got a new Dive For Five, this one with a little optimism.

There is no reason to give up hope and sh!t on everything Oilers.

There is hope, and here is proof.

1.) Hall or Seguin ?

2.) Eberle

3.) MPS

4.) Gagner

5.) Hemsky

I gots to get back to work, I will add more optimism as the day goes on.

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#83 David S
February 17 2010, 09:59AM
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Aleslav Smidsky wrote:

Good Morning Nation.

I got a new Dive For Five, this one with a little optimism.

There is no reason to give up hope and sh!t on everything Oilers.

There is hope, and here is proof.

1.) Hall or Seguin ?

2.) Eberle

3.) MPS

4.) Gagner

5.) Hemsky

I gots to get back to work, I will add more optimism as the day goes on.

~WHEW!!! And here I thought we were screwed.~

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#84 Matthew Hanson
February 17 2010, 10:01AM
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Lets all give a round of applause for Norway, the Retarded twisted sister of Sweden.... Thank ya, Thank ya Very Much!!

GO CANADA.... and to Iginla, a little message even though you are originally from the Edmonton-St. Albert Area you play for my hated team the Calgary Flames....THIS MEANS WAR!!!

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#85 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
February 17 2010, 10:28AM
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Matthew Hanson wrote:

Lets all give a round of applause for Norway, the Retarded twisted sister of Sweden.... Thank ya, Thank ya Very Much!!

GO CANADA.... and to Iginla, a little message even though you are originally from the Edmonton-St. Albert Area you play for my hated team the Calgary Flames....THIS MEANS WAR!!!

It's a shame they didn't wear the curling clown pants.

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#86 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
February 17 2010, 10:35AM
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Womens hockey tonight against Sweden? Can we get some team photos as the ice girls of the week?

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#87 bigrroberto
February 17 2010, 11:14AM
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@Crash

Based on past performances and what he's done in the world jr's, that game for him wasn't good. Yeah you're right he was doing alot of little things right, but he can do more. We expect him to do more.

I thought Ferraro and Nugent-Hopkins were quite dominating. I love the speed of NH. He's going to be a great player if he can get a little bigger. ;)

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#88 Crash
February 17 2010, 11:24AM
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bigrroberto wrote:

Based on past performances and what he's done in the world jr's, that game for him wasn't good. Yeah you're right he was doing alot of little things right, but he can do more. We expect him to do more.

I thought Ferraro and Nugent-Hopkins were quite dominating. I love the speed of NH. He's going to be a great player if he can get a little bigger. ;)

He (Eberle) showed his skill, he showed that he can play a solid two way game..he showed his hockey sense is above average.

The part that scares me is people now wanting and expecting actual scoring results everytime, every game...The guy has averaged close to 2 pts a game this year on a bad team. He isn't going to score 2 pts every night. We aren't expecting this are we? I sure hope we aren't.

The kid shows his skill level and his ability to think the game at a high level everytime he plays.

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#89 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 17 2010, 11:32AM
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bigrroberto wrote:

Based on past performances and what he's done in the world jr's, that game for him wasn't good. Yeah you're right he was doing alot of little things right, but he can do more. We expect him to do more.

I thought Ferraro and Nugent-Hopkins were quite dominating. I love the speed of NH. He's going to be a great player if he can get a little bigger. ;)

Ya, again it was only one game. But he looked alot more like a complementary "opportunistic scorer" rather then a creator.

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#91 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 17 2010, 11:51AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Kinda like Joff Lupul?

Hmmm, probably a decent skill set comparison. I like to think Eberle has more drive though.

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#92 Archaeologuy
February 17 2010, 12:06PM
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Lupul got a raw deal here. They never should have given up on him so quickly. What do have now ultimately in return? Patty O'Sullivan? Bahumbug.

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#93 BigE57
February 17 2010, 12:24PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Kinda like Joff Lupul?

I don't think I would compare him to Lupul just yet. The kid had a good game in Edmonton on Saturday night, albeit against inferior competition. (Can the Oilers do anything right? If they offered to sponsor my rec hockey team I think I'd retire).

Personally I think he will be a good to great player for the Oilers but if they don't have the supporting cast to help him elevate his game to an NHL level than a year in the AHL might be the best route for him to go.

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#94 Starving Student
February 17 2010, 12:27PM
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win.

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#96 Crash
February 17 2010, 12:45PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Ya, again it was only one game. But he looked alot more like a complementary "opportunistic scorer" rather then a creator.

Don't think his game is creating..he's a finisher, not a creator, although as I mentioned he can turn on a dime with the puck on his stick and handle it in a phone booth...it enables him to get scoring opportunities in tight quarters. But he takes shots that not many others would think of let alone attempt. His hands are quick and he's smart.

The Oilers have some creatviity, now we need to develop some finishers and Eberle is just that...

a goal scorer IMO

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#97 offside
February 17 2010, 01:00PM
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Edmonton Journal is saying Khabibulin was charged with a DUI in Arizona last week.

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#98 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 17 2010, 01:02PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

I'd agree with that (Eberle has more drive though.). I wasn't necessarily saying he'd be Joff Lupul, but comparing skill sets. I wonder where Joffrey would be if he never left Anaheim? Probably pretty well off.

Ya, the more I think about the Lupul comparison, the closer I think they will be. Looking at Lupuls #'s they also seem pretty reasonable for Eberle, though the extra "drive" will (hopefully) keep him from having an "abbreviation" season like Lupul did in Edmonton.

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#99 sags
February 17 2010, 01:03PM
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Bulin gets a DUI? WOW... the hits just keep on coming!

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#100 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 17 2010, 01:04PM
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Crash wrote:

Don't think his game is creating..he's a finisher, not a creator, although as I mentioned he can turn on a dime with the puck on his stick and handle it in a phone booth...it enables him to get scoring opportunities in tight quarters. But he takes shots that not many others would think of let alone attempt. His hands are quick and he's smart.

The Oilers have some creatviity, now we need to develop some finishers and Eberle is just that...

a goal scorer IMO

Theirs a difference between a creator and a playmaker. I agree that he will be a goal scorer, but a scorer that finds open space and waits for opportunity vs one that creates the opportunity himself. ie a Heatly/Sykora/Lupul type rather then a Vclav/Nash/or even Hemsky type.

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