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Jonathan Willis
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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 GSC
March 16 2010, 09:07AM
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I'll just state the obvious and say that Aaron Johnson is playing for a contract...would be a nice bottom-pairing guy for the next couple of years at the right price (nothing over $800K).

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#2 Archaeologuy
March 16 2010, 09:12AM
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@GSC

Agreed. Although, I think the Oil could bump that up to a cool 1 million and be ok.

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#3 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 16 2010, 09:27AM
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GSC wrote:

I'll just state the obvious and say that Aaron Johnson is playing for a contract...would be a nice bottom-pairing guy for the next couple of years at the right price (nothing over $800K).

I'd like to go into summer with the expectation that Johnson replaces Strudwick, hoping to sign a more proven 3rd pairing guy and then you've got Johnson as an insurance policy.

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#4 jake
March 16 2010, 10:11AM
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GSC wrote:

I'll just state the obvious and say that Aaron Johnson is playing for a contract...would be a nice bottom-pairing guy for the next couple of years at the right price (nothing over $800K).

Imagine if the Oilers only gave out one year contracts, every player playing every year for the privelege to play in NHL. Heck, imagine if it was league wide, the quality of play you would see.

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#5 OilCrazy
March 16 2010, 10:48AM
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The most recent ISS draft rankings just came out and Seguin is now ranked number 1. I wonder how many Hall bandwagon jumpers will now move over to team Seguin on this site.

For the record, I still believe Hall is the player the Oilers will pick. Even though Hall finished second in league scoring, he did play at the world juniors and played 6 less junior games than Seguin as a result.

Hall has also been viewed as the top prospect for the last 3 years and now all of a sudden Seguin is stepping up. I would go with the proven track history of Hall to date.

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#7 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 16 2010, 11:01AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

@ OilCrazy:

I agree with you that Hall's probably number one right now, but it's so close that it could go either way. I tried to take a look at some more in-depth numbers yesterday to split the two apart but it didn't help nearly as much as I thought it would.

Hall's the safer pick at this point, IMO, although the attitude reports are a little disconcerting. He might be Dany Heatley, which would be both good and bad.

So you are saying he will refuse to come to Edmonton.

:(

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#8 Muji 狗
March 16 2010, 11:12AM
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If that's the case, let's go with Seguin... for the sake of pedestrians in Edmonton.

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#9 rubbertrout
March 16 2010, 11:12AM
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@Jonathan Willis

I can just imagine Lowe and Tambo.

"WE CAN SIGN THE NEXT DANY HEATLEY? TELL KATZ TO FIRE UP THE BATJET SO WE CAN BEG AND GROVEL TO HAVE THIS PLAYER JOIN OUR FRANCHISE."

This time nobody can say no because we drafted his ass!

Seguin is the correct pick IMO--book it.

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#10 Chris.
March 16 2010, 11:18AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote: "Hall's the safer pick at this point, IMO, although the attitude reports are a little disconcerting."

I wouldn't worry about attitude problems... after all; Hall is a a good Canadian kid.

Sincerely,

Sean Avery.

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#11 Ender
March 16 2010, 11:20AM
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rubbertrout wrote:

This time nobody can say no because we drafted his ass!

Two words: Eric Lindros.

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#12 Mike Krushelnyski
March 16 2010, 11:25AM
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Ender wrote:

rubbertrout wrote:

This time nobody can say no because we drafted his ass!

Two words: Eric Lindros.

So we trade him for a better star player and some depth that wins us a cup. Even better!

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#13 dragon
March 16 2010, 11:27AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

I'd like to go into summer with the expectation that Johnson replaces Strudwick, hoping to sign a more proven 3rd pairing guy and then you've got Johnson as an insurance policy.

right on.

and then find a replacement for Tommy Gilbert on second pairing and we're all set:

SOURay - Whitney Smid - ?? Johnson - Peckham 7th: Plante, Chorney, Fowler (LOL)

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#14 Chris.
March 16 2010, 11:28AM
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If Hall=Heatley... and Eberle can equal Gagner... this team needs at least two more lottery picks to even come close to the "Chicago method".

I can hardly stomach the next next thirteen games, let alone the next 164.

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#15 Dyckster
March 16 2010, 11:32AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

@ OilCrazy:

I agree with you that Hall's probably number one right now, but it's so close that it could go either way. I tried to take a look at some more in-depth numbers yesterday to split the two apart but it didn't help nearly as much as I thought it would.

Hall's the safer pick at this point, IMO, although the attitude reports are a little disconcerting. He might be Dany Heatley, which would be both good and bad.

~Surely the Oilers braintrust would do their due diligence before making the most important decision in the history of the franchise.~

You know, maybe interview the kid, ask some thought provoking questions that may expose this supposed 'attitude' flaw. Gawd I hope they do.

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#16 rubbertrout
March 16 2010, 11:35AM
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@Ender

Damn you sir. That Rikeresque beard just screams authority.

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#17 Ender
March 16 2010, 11:40AM
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rubbertrout wrote:

Damn you sir. That Rikeresque beard just screams authority.

You know, sometimes other people see more than we do. I hadn't ever connected it that way before, but that photo captures me pretty bang dead on. A far better avatar than what I had.

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#18 Archaeologuy
March 16 2010, 12:21PM
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@Jonathan Willis

Those even strength goal scoring numbers from your report are striking. That's the kind of statistic that a bitter JW 6 years from now might harp on if Seguin turns out to be the bigger star.

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#19 Harlie
March 16 2010, 12:26PM
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@Ender

make it so, Number One.

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#20 Archaeologuy
March 16 2010, 12:36PM
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Just watched John Garrett get asked on Sportsnet by Mike Brophy if Bouwmeester is free to roam now that they have Staios, Garrett just laughed.

Are the guys in Toronto under the impression that Staios is good?

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#21 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 16 2010, 12:38PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Just watched John Garrett get asked on Sportsnet by Mike Brophy if Bouwmeester is free to roam now that they have Staios, Garrett just laughed.

Are the guys in Toronto under the impression that Staios is good?

Well, it's a fair question - especially if by "free to roam", Brophy means "go out on the PK late in the third period".

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#22 Ender
March 16 2010, 01:08PM
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Harlie wrote:

make it so, Number One.

I'm not sure if I can be Number One; the Captain said it's ok, but I need to ask Sparky if it's available.

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#23 Crash
March 16 2010, 01:10PM
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OilCrazy wrote:

The most recent ISS draft rankings just came out and Seguin is now ranked number 1. I wonder how many Hall bandwagon jumpers will now move over to team Seguin on this site.

For the record, I still believe Hall is the player the Oilers will pick. Even though Hall finished second in league scoring, he did play at the world juniors and played 6 less junior games than Seguin as a result.

Hall has also been viewed as the top prospect for the last 3 years and now all of a sudden Seguin is stepping up. I would go with the proven track history of Hall to date.

This Hall bandwagon jumper is firmly on it....Looks like everyone is getting caught up in Seguin's one good season....

What if this season was an aberration for Seguin never to be equaled again?

He could be having the year of his life..

No thanks...give me Hall and his consistency.

Even when you listen to Tyler Seguins Junior coach talking about the two you can see that Hall is the more dynamic explosive player...

Hall ALL the WAY

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#26 Clyde Frog
March 16 2010, 01:17PM
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I'm not sure why this is even a discussion between Hall or Seguin. Its pretty obvious we will trade the #1 overall pick to the KHL for a discounted Jagr.

Hell its what I would do, why draft a kid with ZERO nhl goals when we can pick up a guy with more than 10!!!

PS, I can only imagine how much Tambo is praying to lose the lottery... Imagine being able to draft without the worry of being burned at the stake.

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#27 Ender
March 16 2010, 01:28PM
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Clyde Frog wrote:

I can only imagine how much Tambo is praying to lose the lottery... Imagine being able to draft without the worry of being burned at the stake.

That's actually a really good point. Tambi picks first, we spend the next two years griefing him every time his pick stumbles or the 'guy he let get away' scores. Tambi picks second, none of that matters; either he was going to pick the guy anyway if he's dynamite (riiiight . . . ) or he couldn't do anything about it if he gets the dog. He avoids a ton of microscope up his a$$ if he finishes 30th and still picks second. He must be doing an inordinate amount of praying these days. Come to think of it, maybe that explains the absurd injury total as well . . .

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#28 Archaeologuy
March 16 2010, 01:42PM
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@Jonathan Willis

Yeah, I would definitely be more comfortable with Seguin if he had done this last year too.

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#29 RossCreekNation
March 16 2010, 02:55PM
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I'm firmly on the Tyler Seguin bandwagon...

First off, his first name is AWESOME!

Second off, he WILL be better (~even though he's only had 1 good year~)

Third, Hall WILL be an Oiler... nuff said. Maybe I've got my 'hate glasses' on for him already :)

If all the pundits are split, then it obviously isn't such an easy choice, so for anyone to think it is, well...

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#30 Pajamah
March 17 2010, 06:23AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

I'm firmly on the Tyler Seguin bandwagon...

First off, his first name is AWESOME!

Second off, he WILL be better (~even though he's only had 1 good year~)

Third, Hall WILL be an Oiler... nuff said. Maybe I've got my 'hate glasses' on for him already :)

If all the pundits are split, then it obviously isn't such an easy choice, so for anyone to think it is, well...

What scares me is the comparison to the Lecavalier-Legwand race for number one in their draft year.

It would be better if both players made their respective clubs, and both put up an 80 point season within 5 years.

However, I think of the 3 or 4 games I've watched of both, Hall looks more like what the Oilers need, and that's being more of a power forward, more of a pure scorer. Plus, Hall and Eberle together

Yugoddabekiddinmeovahee!!!!

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