Do trades at the deadline actually help?

Jason Gregor
March 02 2010 01:30PM

How many of the trades leading up to the deadline actually help a team? Here’s a recap of what happened last year leading up to the trade deadline.

Montreal acquired Mathieu Schneider and a 3rd rounder and sent a 2009 2nd rounder and a 2010 3rd rounder to Atlanta. Habs made playoffs but lost in 1st round.

Islanders acquired Dean McCammond and 1st rounder (was Sharks 26th pick that they turned into #12 Calvin deHaan) in exchange for Mike Comrie and Chris Campoli. Senators missed the playoffs, lost Comrie while Campoli is still in Ottawa.

Pittsburgh acquired Chris Kunitz and Eric Tangradi and send Ryan Whitney to the Ducks. Penguins win the Cup and Kunitz was a solid contributor. Ducks get Whitney which allows them to trade the Human Rake to Philly. Good deal for both teams.

Stars send Doug Janik to Montreal for Steve Begin. Insignificant deal.

New Jersey acquired Niclas Havelid and Myles Stoesz from Atlanta for Anssi Salmela. Devils lose in first round and Havelid doesn’t re-sign.

Columbus acquired Antoine Vermette from Ottawa for Pascal Leclaire and a 2nd rounder (Robin Lehner, another goalie). Columbus made the playoffs for the first time, but lost in first round. Leclaire has been hurt and lost his starting job. Neither player has made an positive impact this season.

Calgary acquired Jordon Leopold from Colorado for Lawrence Nycholat, Ryan Wilson and Montreal’s 2nd rounder (Stefan Elliot). Flames made playoffs, but lost in first round again. Wilson has been solid in Colorado this year, and is very physical. The Flames sent Leopold to Florida for the rights to Jay Bouwmeester. Both teams benefitted.

Buffalo acquired Mikael Tellqvist from Phoenix for a 4th rounder this summer. Phoenix wins because Tellqvist is useless.

Boston got Steve Montador from Anaheim for Petteri Nokelainen. Neither made impact last year, but both are serviceable. Helped both teams.

Flames grabbed Olli Jokinen a 3rd rounder (which they traded to Florida in Bouwmeester deal) from Phoenix for Matt Lombardi, Brandon Prust and Calgary’s first rounder this year. Coyotes win this deal hands down. Lombardi is contributing and it looks like they will get a top-20 or maybe top-15 pick this year. Flames turned Jokinen into Ales Kotalik and Chris Higgins. Ask Flames fans if they’d like Lombardi and their first instead of those two now!

Boston received Mark Recchi and a 2nd in 2010 from Tampa Bay for Matt Lashoff and Martins Karsums. Good deal for Boston, and Lashoff hasn’t progressed in Tampa.

Penguins grabbed Bill Guerin from the Islanders for a conditional pick that turned out to be a 3rd rounder. Guerin was a good soldier for Penguins in Cup win. Easy win for Pittsburgh.

Phoenix nabbed Scottie Upshall and a 2nd rounder in 2011 from the Flyers for Daniel Carcillo. Flyers lost in first round, while Upshall scored 8 goals after trade in Phoenix, and was their leading goal scorer this year before blowing his ACL. Phoenix wins easily.

Rangers acquired Nik Antropov from the Leafs for a 2nd rounder (Kenny Ryan) and a conditional pick in 2010. Leafs got something for a guy they didn’t want and Rangers lost in first round. Antropov is gone too. Nobody wins this one.

Rangers grabbed Derek Morris from Phoenix for Dmitri Kalinin, Petr Prucha and Nigel Dawes. Prucha is only one still with the team, so Phoenix gets the nod. Deal didn’t do much for either team.

Sabres took Dominic Moore from the Leafs for a 2nd rounder (Jesse Blacker). Sabres missed the playoffs, and didn’t re-sign Moore. Leafs win cause they got something. Still can’t believe Moore is worth a 2nd rounder two years in a row.

Ducks grab Erik Christensen from Atlanta for Eric O’Dell. No winner.

Florida picks up Steve Eminger from Tampa for Noah Welch and a 3rd rounder (they traded pick to Detroit). Florida missed the playoffs and didn’t re-sign Eminger and Welch is in the minors. No winner.

Columbus grabbed Kevin Lalande from Calgary for a 4th rounder (traded pick). Nothing trade right now.

Chicago took Sammy Pahlsson, Logan Stephenson and conditional 2009 pick from Anaheim for James Wisnewski and Petri Kontiola. Pahlsson and Wisnewski have both helped their teams. Pretty even deal.

Ducks sent Travis Moen and Kent Huskins to San Jose for Nick Bonino, Timo Pielmeier and conditional pick in 2010. Sharks lost in first round and Moen signed in Montreal. Deal didn’t help either team.

Oilers acquired Patrick O’Sullivan and a 2nd rounder (Brian Dumoulin) from Carolina for Erik Cole and a 5th rounder (Matt Kennedy). Cole didn’t do much in Carolina, but they went to conference final. O’Sullivan has been inconsistent in Edmonton. Edmonton got something for a guy they would lose, so I guess they get the edge.

Oilers acquire Ales Kotalik from Buffalo for 2nd rounder (Brian Dumoulin). Oilers didn’t make the playoffs, so I’d say they lost the deal.

Leafs acquired Olaf Kolzig, Jamie Howard, Andy Rogers and a 4th rounder. (I have no idea what happened to this pick. It was #118 and no one was chosen. Seriously I can’t find it anywhere. Weird) from Tampa for Richard Petiot. This was a nothing trade that was about money. League should be fined for allowing it to happen.

So when you look back at last year, Pittsburgh was the obvious winner, with Kunitz and Guerin, but the Phoenix Coyotes did very well as well acquiring Upshall, Lombardi and they still have a first rounder coming this year.

I wonder if any teams will truly benefit from this year’s trades. What do you think?

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#51 Oilers fan2
March 02 2010, 05:08PM
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@Heavyd

I was at that game , don't recall people leaving early. Ryan smyth was very over rated and still is. Thank god K Lowe had the balls to make that trade. As much as Nilson and o'mara have not made a good fit. Smyth would have left anyway

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#52 jeanshorts
March 02 2010, 06:33PM
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Couldn't Grebs have at least waited to come back to Rexall before he got his first point against the Oilers?

Edit: HAHAHAHA OH MAN! Oh man. Just, oh man. Wow.

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#54 Heavyd
March 02 2010, 07:09PM
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@Oilers fan2

Ya I remeber they were leaving cause we were losing real bad.

But I was also hammered so who knows. But the fans were defintly very upset.

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#55 jeanshorts
March 02 2010, 07:16PM
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Who needs Grebeshkov when we've got Peckham!

Atta go Theo! Get dem goals son!

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#56 Heavyd
March 02 2010, 07:18PM
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Just got an e-mail from the Oilers.

Tommorow's game will be on TSN2, or on edmontonoilers.com

This game was not scheduled for local tv.

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#57 Heavyd
March 02 2010, 07:21PM
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Gregor, Brownlee.

Are you guys hearing any trade rumors?

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#59 Wanyes bastard child
March 02 2010, 07:26PM
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With Pisani and Moreau, im guessing we'd be bringing players back as it wouldn't just be for picks. Or am I wrong in my guess? What i meant is because of the contracts, but im not sure what LA or San Jose have for cap room...

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#60 Giggsunited
March 02 2010, 07:27PM
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This would be a good time to take some salary on for just this year to help Pitts out on the Poni trade. Thoughts?

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#61 Pajamah
March 02 2010, 07:41PM
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I think no matter what, someone benefits off of any trade, most of the time.

Its rare to see teams trade good talent, for good talent, only to see both new acquistions play worse.

Help can be subjective, nothing the Oilers trade for should, or will, help for the next season or 2, but realistically, should help by freeing up space, and bringing in new prospects/picks.

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#62 Pajamah
March 02 2010, 07:43PM
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Giggsunited wrote:

This would be a good time to take some salary on for just this year to help Pitts out on the Poni trade. Thoughts?

Don't help out Pitts until we've helped ourselves. Take an upcoming UFA and a good prospect, sure, but the Oilers would need to trade a Cogliano or Brule to get that kind of return, and then, why would Pittsburgh do it, just to bring in Ponikarovsky

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#63 Giggsunited
March 02 2010, 07:45PM
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@Pajamah ??? give us skoula and a 3rd rnd man from pitts. if that offer were there, that wuld help us?? no? lol

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#64 Red Deerian Convert
March 02 2010, 07:51PM
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@Giggsunited

that seems fair if we offer them our fourth rounder for both?

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#65 Aleslav Smidsky
March 02 2010, 07:56PM
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I want to see Theo beat someone up.

What a rocket by Pouliot! Trade him too, his value is pretty high RIGHT NOW.

Between Moreau Staios and Pisani, i can only see one, two in a dream world leaving tomorrow.

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#66 Jagrbaum
March 02 2010, 08:40PM
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Hey guys i'm new here, looking forward to discussing hockey with you guys

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#67 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 02 2010, 08:44PM
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Jagrbaum wrote:

Hey guys i'm new here, looking forward to discussing hockey with you guys

We welcome you with open arms.

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#68 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 02 2010, 08:45PM
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Grebs first star. Well done.

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#69 Heavyd
March 02 2010, 08:49PM
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@OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

I knew he would turn into an allstar.

Why did tambo trade him.

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#70 Heavyd
March 02 2010, 08:50PM
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What's with all the users using ogden for their names?

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#71 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 02 2010, 08:51PM
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Heavyd wrote:

What's with all the users using ogden for their names?

Secret

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#72 Jagrbaum
March 02 2010, 08:51PM
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@OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

lol

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#73 Jagrbaum
March 02 2010, 08:52PM
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@Heavyd

uber secret

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#74 Jagrbaum
March 02 2010, 08:52PM
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@OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

didn't get to watch the game, any noticeable turnovers or did he for once play a solid game

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#75 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 02 2010, 08:57PM
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Jagrbaum wrote:

didn't get to watch the game, any noticeable turnovers or did he for once play a solid game

Only caught the last 10 min, I can't justify rearranging my schedule to watch this anymore.

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#76 Jagrbaum
March 02 2010, 08:59PM
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@OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

got that right. at least until they call up eberle for 9 games at the end of the season. They can do that right?

Anyone know what happened to Kyle Turris?

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#77 Crash
March 02 2010, 09:20PM
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Jagrbaum wrote:

didn't get to watch the game, any noticeable turnovers or did he for once play a solid game

If you're talking about Grebeshkov, he started the game out well...assisted on the 1st Preds goal then scored one and was plus 2...

He wound up even on the night....that should tell the story.

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#78 Crash
March 02 2010, 09:23PM
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Wow, Regina officially eliminated from WHL playoffs tonight and they have the top 2 scorers in the league.

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#79 Pajamah
March 02 2010, 09:27PM
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Giggsunited wrote:

@Pajamah ??? give us skoula and a 3rd rnd man from pitts. if that offer were there, that wuld help us?? no? lol

Is this the same Martin Skoula , the one from Pittsburgh?? No, that would not help us, in any way shape or form. a 3rd rounder is less than 10% likely to become a day to day NHL'er.

So even if we get that for free, I'm not impressed. Who would we have to give up? A Ponikarovsky-like talented player. Wouldnt that defeat the purpose of Pittsburgh trading with Toronto?

Pittsburgh made the trade to get better immediately, assuming that what they gave up was less detrimental compared to what they brought in.....why in gods name would we do the opposite deal?

Youre making very little sense

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#80 Aleslav Smidsky
March 02 2010, 09:34PM
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Oilers should trade for Casey Zabotel in the Pitts minors. Awesome little indian from the Seacamus area, i believe he was better then Eberle in points last year in the WHL.

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#81 Jess
March 02 2010, 09:51PM
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Ya i watched the trade for Poni and Skuola at TheScore.com's NHL Trade Deadline tracker(found at http://tradedeadline.thescore.com/) at work and had to scream a sigh of relief that the leafs may get worse than Edmonton.

I pray Poni lights it up on the Pens leafs nation might riot.

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#82 SirFozz
March 02 2010, 10:08PM
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Well I see everything is back to normal now. Oilers lose, OilersNation gains one more Ogden. Has it really been a couple weeks with neither of those? Also nice to see Grebs continue his season long effort to help us gain the #1 pick.

Hey, remember when we won gold on Sunday...good times.

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#83 NHL Trade Deadline
March 02 2010, 10:35PM
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They will help long term - no doubt. Oilers need to get rid of some bad contracts.

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#84 Librarian Mike
March 02 2010, 11:04PM
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@SirFozz

Hey, remember when we won gold on Sunday...good times.

Remember when our biggest worry was Khabibulin getting dehydrated during games? Those were the days...

*feels sudden compulsion to download 'CPO Sharkey' torrents*

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