Do you see what I see, edition VII

Jason Gregor
March 29 2010 10:06AM

With less than two weeks to go in the season, how much can we take out of these final games?

Are five consecutive solid starts enough that the Oilers need to be concerned that a team will claim Devan Dubnyk next year? Or are they enough that the Oilers will keep him and waive Jeff Deslauriers? Or is trading one of them the best option for Steve Tambellini?

If he trades one then they have zero depth in the organization and with Nikolai Khabibulin’s age and recent back surgery I don’t know if that's the best option. The only way they trade one of them is if they can sign a journeyman veteran who won’t get claimed on waivers.

I don’t think Dubnyk has shown enough for a team to grab him and keep him as their back up next season.

Robert Nilsson and Patrick O’Sullivan are exact replicas. Soft and inconsistent yet they can tantalize you skill that gives you a false sense that they have turned the corner. O’Sullivan is a bit grittier, but like his consistency that facet of his game only appears from time-to-time. Does Tambellini keep one of them, or both?

Both of them are under 26 years of age, so they can be bought out for 1/3 of their salary, but I don’t see both of them getting the pink slip. If I had to choose I’d get rid of O’Sullivan first, but I bet the team parts ways with Nilsson.

Can the Oilers move forward with Sam Gagner and Andrew Cogliano as centremen? Not if they want to be a contender some day, but Cogliano has put up some decent numbers since being promoted off the 4th line. He has four goals and nine points in his last 11 games, after scoring five goals and 14 points in the first 64.

I think his promotion has been a showcase and he’ll be moved this summer. I like his game and I think he’ll be a 20-goal man very soon, but he just doesn’t fit in the long term plans with Gagner and Tyler Seguin in the mix. Yes, I said Seguin. I think that is who the Oilers should choose on June 1st, if they get the first pick.

The Oilers will move Cogliano for a winger with size or a solid D-man.

The more I think about it, the more realistic it seems that the Oilers might move Ales Hemsky. Hemsky likes Edmonton, but he is tired of losing. Either they move Hemsky or they improve his supporting cast so this team can make the playoffs. I don’t think the latter is that easy, so Hemsky might be dangled.

I know a majority of fans are dreaming of getting the top two picks, but that slim, and I mean slim, possibility will only happen if Boston or Columbus is the other team in the top two. Carolina, Tampa and the Islanders won’t trade the pick, but Boston and Columbus would at least consider it. Scott Howson and Peter Chiarelli need to win next season, while the other three can be patient.

Once again it looks like the east will have four of the top five picks. It’s no wonder many of the top young stars play in the east. Since the 2000 draft only once, 2007, has the west had three picks in the top five. Every other year the east has had at least three choices, and three times they have had four of the top five picks.

Here is who the east and west have drafted since 2000.

East West
Rick Dipietro Marian Gaborik
Dany Heatley   Rostislav Klesla
Raffi Torres Stanislav Chistov
Ilya Kovalchuk Rick Nash
Jason Spezza Nikolai Zherdev
Alexandr Svitov Cam Barker
Stephan Weiss Blake Wheeler
Kari Lehtonen Bobby Ryan
Jay Bouwmeester Benoit Pouliot
Joni Pitkanen Erik Johnson
Ryan Whitney Jonathon Toews
Marc-Andre Fleury Patrick Kane
Eric Staal Kyle Turris  
Nathan Horton Thomas Hickey
Thomas Vanek Drew Doughty
Alex Ovechkin  Alex Pietrangelo
Evgeni Malkin   Matt Duchene
Sidney Crosby  Brayden Schenn
Jack Johnson  
Carey Price  
Jordan Staal   
Nicklas Backstrom  
Phil Kessel  
James Van Riemsdyk   
Karl Alzner   
Steven Stamkos  
Zach Bogosian  
Luke Schenn  
John Tavares   
Victor Hedman   
Evander Kane  

The western teams need to learn how to suck better down the stretch. The Blue Jackets are 6-2-2 in their last ten and are now out of the bottom five, and if they keep rolling them might find themselves drafting 9th. Just more proof that you can’t get teams to purposely tank it down the stretch. The Jackets beat the Hawks twice in the last week.

With four straight wins it looks the Sharks have woke up and will get home ice advantage in the west. They won’t face Detroit in the first round, so I will pick the Sharks to represent the west in the Cup. I know they have Joe “I can’t play with emotion” Thornton, but I believe the Olympic experience will help him and with Dan Boyle, Dany Heatley and Patrick Marleau all winning the gold, the Sharks will finally make it to the fourth round.

I don’t like the Hawks goaltending, and I don’t think Vancouver’s defence is deep enough to win three rounds.

And it will be sweet to watch the Flames scratch and claw their way to 9th place in the west. They are dreaming if they think they will catch Colorado. They play each other this Friday, but it won’t matter. The Avs have five of their seven remaining games at home where they are 23-11-2. Sorry Flamers you won’t be going to the dance.

I wonder if the Flames would be in the playoffs if they showed as much fire as Jim Playfair, the head coach of their AHL team in Abbotsford.

Playfair lost it over the weekend. To bad he didn’t rip off his shirt,that would have been even funnier.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#101 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 02:28PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

They should also get Tkachuk & Khabibulin too! Anyone else still playing?

How soon we forget. How about SELANNE!

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#102 Archaeologuy
March 29 2010, 02:33PM
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@dragon

we have been down this path before. Check the scoring record during that 15 game stretch. He kept scoring, he was doing his part to keep the team going. The perception that he didnt keep his end of the bargain is nothing more than selective memory.

No team can go anywhere if there's only 1 player contributing, ask Atlanta.

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#103 Tracie
March 29 2010, 02:33PM
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Crash wrote:

I really hope Winnipeg does get them...it would be poetic justice too if they came back to where they left from...

If they do come back I hope Winnipeg steps up...even when times are bad

So Bettman didn't want to sell to Balsillie b/c he would move the team to Canada...but he's fine with selling the team to Winnipeg even though they have an arena that only holds 15,100??? This is bull! Bettman put this backup plan in place b/c if he doesn't have a deal in place by June, Balsillie is allowed to bid on it again! the MORON is putting his personal feelings before what's best for the team!

i was a huge jets fan and I cried when they left...so I'll be happy if the Jets get a team back and it would be great for Doan and the Coyotes to go back home where they belong. I just hate the fact that Bettman is too dumb to realize how much more money would be in his filthy little pockets if he just let Balsillie take a team from the States and move it to freakin Hamilton!

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#104 lenny
March 29 2010, 02:36PM
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I am reading this posts and do not understand anything. Usually when people trade they offer there worst for somebody's best and deal in the middle. You people are trading there best player in Hemsky for someone who could be good or bad soon or not so soon. Please tell me the logic behind this stupidity!

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#105 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 02:37PM
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Tracie wrote:

So Bettman didn't want to sell to Balsillie b/c he would move the team to Canada...but he's fine with selling the team to Winnipeg even though they have an arena that only holds 15,100??? This is bull! Bettman put this backup plan in place b/c if he doesn't have a deal in place by June, Balsillie is allowed to bid on it again! the MORON is putting his personal feelings before what's best for the team!

i was a huge jets fan and I cried when they left...so I'll be happy if the Jets get a team back and it would be great for Doan and the Coyotes to go back home where they belong. I just hate the fact that Bettman is too dumb to realize how much more money would be in his filthy little pockets if he just let Balsillie take a team from the States and move it to freakin Hamilton!

Bettman nixed the Balsillie deal because he tried to strong-arm his way into the league. Bettman even went on record saying that he's not opposed to a franchise in Winnipeg (even though he was making reference to a possible expansion).

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#106 Tracie
March 29 2010, 02:46PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

Bettman nixed the Balsillie deal because he tried to strong-arm his way into the league. Bettman even went on record saying that he's not opposed to a franchise in Winnipeg (even though he was making reference to a possible expansion).

Balsillie tried to be nice getting a team and Bettman nixed it...he also nixed Phoenix going to a Canadian venue b/c he beleives there is a successful market in Phoenix, they just needed a successful team. Balsillie played nice with the idea of Nashville going to Hamilton and it was still nixed. he enquired about Phoenix and got nixed so he tried the back door, although i don't agree with him going backdoor, I do think that Bettman has some sort of vendetta for not wanting Balsillie to have an NHL team

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#107 lenny
March 29 2010, 02:49PM
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Why no answer? You people remind me of Obama trading away friendship with Israel for friendship with PLO knowing that PLO will stick a sharp knife in the back of America. Trading Hemsky away? I can see the fun he is going to have with Oiler playing for Columbus.

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#108 Archaeologuy
March 29 2010, 02:49PM
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@Tracie

There was a lot of talk there about Balsillie going backdoor on Bettman.

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#109 Lofty
March 29 2010, 02:50PM
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Dave Smith wrote:

How do you explain his +/- and liability on the ice? If you want to go by the numbers POS is on the decline and Nilsson is on the way up.

Easy, our team sucks, hes been paired with crap players most the season too. By that stat Nilsson > Horcoff. And both are on the decline, Nilsson has 1 more goal than his high, wow, so much better. Hes still 14 pts from his high.

The team sucks but POS sucks the most. -32... are you kidding me?

How about having to play with him and know nothing good is going to come of it. He takes poor shots that gives away possession to the other team instead of making a pass or putting it in the corner for a cycle.

The guy had one good season in LA... hardly convincing.

As far as him vs. Nilsson's stats: he plays almost 4 more minutes than Nilsson per game and has 5 more assists and also has a bigger cap hit.

I'm not a fan of Nilsson but POS really hurts this team (but sure helps get a good draft pick)

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#110 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 02:54PM
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Tracie wrote:

Balsillie tried to be nice getting a team and Bettman nixed it...he also nixed Phoenix going to a Canadian venue b/c he beleives there is a successful market in Phoenix, they just needed a successful team. Balsillie played nice with the idea of Nashville going to Hamilton and it was still nixed. he enquired about Phoenix and got nixed so he tried the back door, although i don't agree with him going backdoor, I do think that Bettman has some sort of vendetta for not wanting Balsillie to have an NHL team

I honestly don't think it has to do with wanting a team in Canada or not.

If I were in Bettman's shoes and saw the option to sell the team to a billionaire in Toronto (who - by the way - wasn't really affiliated with True North during this Balsillie debacle) who wants to move the team to Winnipeg. I would compare this to the option to sell the team to Jim Balsillie.

It wouldn't be a difficult decision.

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#111 Lofty
March 29 2010, 02:55PM
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lenny wrote:

I am reading this posts and do not understand anything. Usually when people trade they offer there worst for somebody's best and deal in the middle. You people are trading there best player in Hemsky for someone who could be good or bad soon or not so soon. Please tell me the logic behind this stupidity!

If you want trade proposals that have Hemsky being delt straight up for the #1 pick, Spezza, Getzlaf, Crosby, etc... go to Hockeybuzz.

Your average Oiler fan thinks Hemsky is worth way more than his actual market value.

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#112 Dyckster
March 29 2010, 02:59PM
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@RossCreekNation

Shane Doan and Teemu are the only other ones I can think of. Isn't Paul McLean coaching somewhere, we might as well get him as well!

EDIT: Sorry OKPT, I missed your post RE: Selanne.

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#113 RossCreekNation
March 29 2010, 03:01PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

How soon we forget. How about SELANNE!

Uhh... ooops. I mean, he's retiring anyway, right? Good catch.

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#114 Tracie
March 29 2010, 03:03PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

I honestly don't think it has to do with wanting a team in Canada or not.

If I were in Bettman's shoes and saw the option to sell the team to a billionaire in Toronto (who - by the way - wasn't really affiliated with True North during this Balsillie debacle) who wants to move the team to Winnipeg. I would compare this to the option to sell the team to Jim Balsillie.

It wouldn't be a difficult decision.

So from that I'm assuming that you would go with True North...my question is why? Both have money to burn and both want NHL teams in NHL markets. Both will make the NHL and bettman lots of money and both seem to be stable business men who won't run away on their team at the first sign of a loss...so why choose True North OVER Balsillie? It must be personal is my reasoning...Balsillie didn't play dirty until he was rejected twice with no real reason...

I'm not trying to be an ass...but this whole situation just has me right choked and I would like to understand someone else view on it b/c you seem to be a more objective...

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#115 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 29 2010, 03:03PM
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dragon wrote:

you cannot talk about Hemsky and Crosby in the same post.

can you...?

My point had nothing to do with Hemsky vs Crosby and everything to do with demonstrating how reaching the level expected of a player should have no baring on trading or keeping him.

You make the decision based on what you have, not on what you have in comparison to what you thought you should be getting.

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#116 Crash
March 29 2010, 03:04PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

They should also get Tkachuk & Khabibulin too! Anyone else still playing?

Selanne is still going

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#117 RossCreekNation
March 29 2010, 03:05PM
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@Dyckster

Ya, Doan's already on Phoenix though. Paul MacLean is an assistant in Detroit.

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#118 RossCreekNation
March 29 2010, 03:08PM
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@Tracie

True North is likely the only possible ownership group in Winnipeg. Balsillie likely is not the only possible owner in GTA. GTA team will more likely be expansion than relocation.

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#119 Dyckster
March 29 2010, 03:09PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Ya, Doan's already on Phoenix though. Paul MacLean is an assistant in Detroit.

Ya, I was so quick to jump on the bandwagon, I neglected to think of that slightly important detail.

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#120 RossCreekNation
March 29 2010, 03:09PM
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The Jets could always add a second-gen player... Alex Steen!

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#121 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 03:11PM
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Tracie wrote:

So from that I'm assuming that you would go with True North...my question is why? Both have money to burn and both want NHL teams in NHL markets. Both will make the NHL and bettman lots of money and both seem to be stable business men who won't run away on their team at the first sign of a loss...so why choose True North OVER Balsillie? It must be personal is my reasoning...Balsillie didn't play dirty until he was rejected twice with no real reason...

I'm not trying to be an ass...but this whole situation just has me right choked and I would like to understand someone else view on it b/c you seem to be a more objective...

I just think that the NHL prefers Winnipeg over Hamilton. It doesn't give you any issues with competing markets nearby (Toronto, Buffalo) because Winnipeg's closest neighbour is an 8hr drive. Winnipeg also has demonstrated dedication to pro-hockey in the form of the Manitoba Moose.

Another interesting piece of the puzzle (that I really had no idea about before) is the fact that the MTS Centre was built with a possibility to renovate to a capacity of roughly 19,000. It really doesn't seem like it to me as the seating is cramped as it is, and the second-bowl seating is so steep it gives me vertigo. I go to the MTS Centre a lot as my office is attached by the downtown skywalk, and I get cheap tickets on a corporate deal. If what I heard about increased capacity is true, that could be a huge bargaining chip.

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#122 lenny
March 29 2010, 03:11PM
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Lofty wrote:

If you want trade proposals that have Hemsky being delt straight up for the #1 pick, Spezza, Getzlaf, Crosby, etc... go to Hockeybuzz.

Your average Oiler fan thinks Hemsky is worth way more than his actual market value.

Maybe he is not as good as Crosby but for this team he is the best. See how they did AFTER Hemsky got injured! You do not trade away your best player unless his contract is up and that is not happening for another 2 years. I don't care what Hockeybuzz says, you should have your own brain.

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#123 Dyckster
March 29 2010, 03:12PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

The Jets could always add a second-gen player... Alex Steen!

We forgot about Kris Draper as well.....

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#124 Crash
March 29 2010, 03:12PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

The Jets could always add a second-gen player... Alex Steen!

And isn't Carter Ashton in the Tampa organization speaking of second gen?

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#125 Tracie
March 29 2010, 03:13PM
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@ Rosscreek

Ravil Gusmanov and Oleg Tverdosky are still playing...in the KHL. I didn't know if you just wanted info on Jets Alumni playing in the NHL.

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#126 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 03:15PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

True North is likely the only possible ownership group in Winnipeg. Balsillie likely is not the only possible owner in GTA. GTA team will more likely be expansion than relocation.

True North is largely owned by the Chipmans, who own a huge chain of car dealerships here. I was concerned about their ability to invest in something like an NHL franchise as the automotive industry was one of the few exceptions to what I said before regarding the whole economic downturn.

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#127 smiliegirl15
March 29 2010, 03:17PM
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Nilsson over POS just for +/- alone! I think Quinn has managed to make something of an actual worthwhile NHL player out of Nilsson.

Tambellini has some trades to make this summer for sure but I hope he doesn't go to the other extreme and start giving away the farm (and I'm not talking Springfield). Whitney was a great addition, especially since he seems to really compliment the skills of Gilbert, especially if we keep getting good Gilbert.

Hemsky's value with the Oilers is high because we really don't have anything better than him on our roster, injured or healthy. I think his value has become evident this season. He and Penner were starting to become a pretty solid pairing and if they had a complementary centre, I think this team could turn around next season.

With the success of the Coyotes in Phoenix this season, we won't see them pried out of there for a long time to come.

Getting both Hall and Seguin would be awesome but not sure it would be realistic. Thank you Robin, for this pipe dream. Would the price mean another year at the bottom?

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#128 Tracie
March 29 2010, 03:21PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

I just think that the NHL prefers Winnipeg over Hamilton. It doesn't give you any issues with competing markets nearby (Toronto, Buffalo) because Winnipeg's closest neighbour is an 8hr drive. Winnipeg also has demonstrated dedication to pro-hockey in the form of the Manitoba Moose.

Another interesting piece of the puzzle (that I really had no idea about before) is the fact that the MTS Centre was built with a possibility to renovate to a capacity of roughly 19,000. It really doesn't seem like it to me as the seating is cramped as it is, and the second-bowl seating is so steep it gives me vertigo. I go to the MTS Centre a lot as my office is attached by the downtown skywalk, and I get cheap tickets on a corporate deal. If what I heard about increased capacity is true, that could be a huge bargaining chip.

The GTA things makes sense but in my mind, that's just more political bullsh*t! I mean you can have two teams less 30 minutes away from eachother in NYR, and NYI, but you can't put a team almost an hour away?? I think the GTA area has more then enough people for two hockey teams, don't you?

But if they put a team in Winnipeg first that makes sense, especially if the arena will be able to be renovated to hold 19,000. Thanks for that info, I didn't know that.

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#129 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 03:26PM
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The other thing that people don't realize is the fact that Winnipeg's population (~700,000) really gets combined with Brandon 3 hours away (~50,000) Selkirk close-by (~25,000) and a bunch of cities in North Dakota that are 2-ish hours away like Fargo (~200,000) and Grand Forks (~100,000).

The salary cap is another factor that helps Winnipeg out.

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#130 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 03:29PM
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Tracie wrote:

The GTA things makes sense but in my mind, that's just more political bullsh*t! I mean you can have two teams less 30 minutes away from eachother in NYR, and NYI, but you can't put a team almost an hour away?? I think the GTA area has more then enough people for two hockey teams, don't you?

But if they put a team in Winnipeg first that makes sense, especially if the arena will be able to be renovated to hold 19,000. Thanks for that info, I didn't know that.

The whole '19,000 capacity' thing comes from a possibly-reliable source. I don't actually know if it's true, and like I said - from my personal experience it doesn't seem like it is.

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#131 Tracie
March 29 2010, 03:30PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

The other thing that people don't realize is the fact that Winnipeg's population (~700,000) really gets combined with Brandon 3 hours away (~50,000) Selkirk close-by (~25,000) and a bunch of cities in North Dakota that are 2-ish hours away like Fargo (~200,000) and Grand Forks (~100,000).

The salary cap is another factor that helps Winnipeg out.

This is true! the salary cap will go a long way to helping keep a team in Winnipeg! Would you get season tickets if the Jets came back?

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#132 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 03:33PM
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Tracie wrote:

This is true! the salary cap will go a long way to helping keep a team in Winnipeg! Would you get season tickets if the Jets came back?

North Dakotans love their hockey, too. UND was good enough for Jonathan Toews, after all!

I would definitely consider going halfers on it with a buddy of mine. What does a set of season tickets run in Edmonton? $4,000?

Edit: Keep in mind that I'm 23. I don't exactly have that kind of cheddar to toss around on a whim.

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#133 The Real Scuba Steve
March 29 2010, 03:53PM
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I hate to say it but the way our division is we might be in the same position next year.

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#134 Lofty
March 29 2010, 04:36PM
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lenny wrote:

Maybe he is not as good as Crosby but for this team he is the best. See how they did AFTER Hemsky got injured! You do not trade away your best player unless his contract is up and that is not happening for another 2 years. I don't care what Hockeybuzz says, you should have your own brain.

You said "Usually when people trade they offer there worst for somebody's best and deal in the middle." which sounds like most the trade props that people on hockeybuzz talk about. The other day I saw some prop suggesting Souray for the Bruins pick...

If you wait to trade away a good player when his contract is up you get almost nothing like with Bouwmeester and Kovalchuk. If the Oil trade him now they can get decent return otherwise it all starts going downhill.

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#135 Rusty duggan
March 29 2010, 04:40PM
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@Pokey Reddock

I should have mentioned that I had no basis for my thoughts on Hall, just a gut instinct.

What is the actual scoop are these guys, character wise? Brownlee, Gregor?

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#136 Hemmertime
March 29 2010, 04:54PM
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@BUCK75

I meant it needs to be a Bonafide star, and likely a C. Malkin is first name to come to mind since just seen his Jersey for sale. There is no way Pitts moves Malkin... however, big Joe I'd do, or anyone of that caliber that has over 4-5 years left on contract. Even if have to move the pick.

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#137 Senator Theo
March 29 2010, 04:55PM
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@RossCreekNation

I can't believe no one has brought up Randy Carlyle.

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#140 Crash
March 29 2010, 05:27PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Gents...Tkachuk scored against the Oilers last night...He also played for the Jets...

Yah, Ross Creek mentioned Tkachuk and Khabibulin in the original post and everyone has been trying to come up with others...and now we're even venturing into the gene pool with Alex Steen and Carter Ashton...lol

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#141 Puritania
March 29 2010, 05:38PM
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The Nilsson vs POS debate is quite simple to resolve. Send them both packing, they both stink.

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#142 rindog
March 29 2010, 05:39PM
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Why can't I find the game on TV?

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#143 rindog
March 29 2010, 05:41PM
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@rindog

Nevermind. My desktop calendar is wrong.

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#144 Skidplate
March 29 2010, 05:41PM
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@rindog

What game?

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#145 Archaeologuy
March 29 2010, 05:51PM
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rindog wrote:

Nevermind. My desktop calendar is wrong.

Consider the possibility that your computer is right. What's the future like? I bet it's a lot like today but everyone rides hover-skateboards.

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#147 rindog
March 29 2010, 06:00PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Consider the possibility that your computer is right. What's the future like? I bet it's a lot like today but everyone rides hover-skateboards.

Just another sign of the season from hell. I looked at my Oiler Wallpaper Desktop Calendar and decided that I would actually watch the game tonight, and...

The good news is - they won't lose tonight!!

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#148 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
March 29 2010, 06:50PM
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rindog wrote:

Just another sign of the season from hell. I looked at my Oiler Wallpaper Desktop Calendar and decided that I would actually watch the game tonight, and...

The good news is - they won't lose tonight!!

with the way the year is gone at least 2 players will suffer season ending injuries in the non-game tonight

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#149 Spot The Loon
March 29 2010, 07:08PM
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Tracie wrote:

So from that I'm assuming that you would go with True North...my question is why? Both have money to burn and both want NHL teams in NHL markets. Both will make the NHL and bettman lots of money and both seem to be stable business men who won't run away on their team at the first sign of a loss...so why choose True North OVER Balsillie? It must be personal is my reasoning...Balsillie didn't play dirty until he was rejected twice with no real reason...

I'm not trying to be an ass...but this whole situation just has me right choked and I would like to understand someone else view on it b/c you seem to be a more objective...

Like it or not, the NHL is like an exclusive country club. Balsillie, when trying to buy the Nashville team, refused to say he would keep the team there and was accepting season ticket deposits in Hamilton before he had been approved. That isn't the sort of thing other NHL owners are going to warm to. Now, if he had been approved as owner and pulled up stakes, there would have been law suits from the arena owners in Nashville and there would have been the whole mess to deal with related to Toronto and Buffalo concerning territorial rights.

Do I think Hamilton will eventually get a team? Yes. But it will likely be through expansion where the owners look at expansion fees they can divide among themselves.

Is there a possibility of the Coyotes moving back to Winnipeg? Sure. But the NHL wants to go through the process of due diligence to ensure the team can't work in Phoenix. They are trying to avoid law suits from the city as there is an agreement in place the team will play in that arena. Now, if the city won't step up to the table and rework the lease with no one coming forward to buy the team and guarantee they will lose money, then I can see a move happening. But it has nothing to do with not like Canada or anything like that.

And Balsillie essentially pissed in the face of those reviewing his application to join that exclusive country club. It won't make him friends with the other owners and they don't want to lose out on a big payday from expansion fees.

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#150 Pajamah
March 29 2010, 07:18PM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

with the way the year is gone at least 2 players will suffer season ending injuries in the non-game tonight

I read Rindogs post, thought up a good "Dustin Penner is out with a broken femur" line, then scrolled down to see you stealing my thunder, how dare you

just when things couldn't get worse.....

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