Do you see what I see, edition VII

Jason Gregor
March 29 2010 10:06AM

With less than two weeks to go in the season, how much can we take out of these final games?

Are five consecutive solid starts enough that the Oilers need to be concerned that a team will claim Devan Dubnyk next year? Or are they enough that the Oilers will keep him and waive Jeff Deslauriers? Or is trading one of them the best option for Steve Tambellini?

If he trades one then they have zero depth in the organization and with Nikolai Khabibulin’s age and recent back surgery I don’t know if that's the best option. The only way they trade one of them is if they can sign a journeyman veteran who won’t get claimed on waivers.

I don’t think Dubnyk has shown enough for a team to grab him and keep him as their back up next season.

Robert Nilsson and Patrick O’Sullivan are exact replicas. Soft and inconsistent yet they can tantalize you skill that gives you a false sense that they have turned the corner. O’Sullivan is a bit grittier, but like his consistency that facet of his game only appears from time-to-time. Does Tambellini keep one of them, or both?

Both of them are under 26 years of age, so they can be bought out for 1/3 of their salary, but I don’t see both of them getting the pink slip. If I had to choose I’d get rid of O’Sullivan first, but I bet the team parts ways with Nilsson.

Can the Oilers move forward with Sam Gagner and Andrew Cogliano as centremen? Not if they want to be a contender some day, but Cogliano has put up some decent numbers since being promoted off the 4th line. He has four goals and nine points in his last 11 games, after scoring five goals and 14 points in the first 64.

I think his promotion has been a showcase and he’ll be moved this summer. I like his game and I think he’ll be a 20-goal man very soon, but he just doesn’t fit in the long term plans with Gagner and Tyler Seguin in the mix. Yes, I said Seguin. I think that is who the Oilers should choose on June 1st, if they get the first pick.

The Oilers will move Cogliano for a winger with size or a solid D-man.

The more I think about it, the more realistic it seems that the Oilers might move Ales Hemsky. Hemsky likes Edmonton, but he is tired of losing. Either they move Hemsky or they improve his supporting cast so this team can make the playoffs. I don’t think the latter is that easy, so Hemsky might be dangled.

I know a majority of fans are dreaming of getting the top two picks, but that slim, and I mean slim, possibility will only happen if Boston or Columbus is the other team in the top two. Carolina, Tampa and the Islanders won’t trade the pick, but Boston and Columbus would at least consider it. Scott Howson and Peter Chiarelli need to win next season, while the other three can be patient.

Once again it looks like the east will have four of the top five picks. It’s no wonder many of the top young stars play in the east. Since the 2000 draft only once, 2007, has the west had three picks in the top five. Every other year the east has had at least three choices, and three times they have had four of the top five picks.

Here is who the east and west have drafted since 2000.

East West
Rick Dipietro Marian Gaborik
Dany Heatley   Rostislav Klesla
Raffi Torres Stanislav Chistov
Ilya Kovalchuk Rick Nash
Jason Spezza Nikolai Zherdev
Alexandr Svitov Cam Barker
Stephan Weiss Blake Wheeler
Kari Lehtonen Bobby Ryan
Jay Bouwmeester Benoit Pouliot
Joni Pitkanen Erik Johnson
Ryan Whitney Jonathon Toews
Marc-Andre Fleury Patrick Kane
Eric Staal Kyle Turris  
Nathan Horton Thomas Hickey
Thomas Vanek Drew Doughty
Alex Ovechkin  Alex Pietrangelo
Evgeni Malkin   Matt Duchene
Sidney Crosby  Brayden Schenn
Jack Johnson  
Carey Price  
Jordan Staal   
Nicklas Backstrom  
Phil Kessel  
James Van Riemsdyk   
Karl Alzner   
Steven Stamkos  
Zach Bogosian  
Luke Schenn  
John Tavares   
Victor Hedman   
Evander Kane  

The western teams need to learn how to suck better down the stretch. The Blue Jackets are 6-2-2 in their last ten and are now out of the bottom five, and if they keep rolling them might find themselves drafting 9th. Just more proof that you can’t get teams to purposely tank it down the stretch. The Jackets beat the Hawks twice in the last week.

With four straight wins it looks the Sharks have woke up and will get home ice advantage in the west. They won’t face Detroit in the first round, so I will pick the Sharks to represent the west in the Cup. I know they have Joe “I can’t play with emotion” Thornton, but I believe the Olympic experience will help him and with Dan Boyle, Dany Heatley and Patrick Marleau all winning the gold, the Sharks will finally make it to the fourth round.

I don’t like the Hawks goaltending, and I don’t think Vancouver’s defence is deep enough to win three rounds.

And it will be sweet to watch the Flames scratch and claw their way to 9th place in the west. They are dreaming if they think they will catch Colorado. They play each other this Friday, but it won’t matter. The Avs have five of their seven remaining games at home where they are 23-11-2. Sorry Flamers you won’t be going to the dance.

I wonder if the Flames would be in the playoffs if they showed as much fire as Jim Playfair, the head coach of their AHL team in Abbotsford.

Playfair lost it over the weekend. To bad he didn’t rip off his shirt,that would have been even funnier.

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#101 Crash
March 29 2010, 02:11PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

So... Phoenix to Winnipeg? Where there's smoke, there's fire! I've been saying this for weeks now (not that I'm that smart, but Scott Taylor suggested as much on Oilers Lunch with Bob a while back). David Thompson, Winnipeg... STAND UP!

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2010/03/29/daily2.html

I really hope Winnipeg does get them...it would be poetic justice too if they came back to where they left from...

If they do come back I hope Winnipeg steps up...even when times are bad

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#102 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 29 2010, 02:21PM
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dragon wrote:

no trolling...really.

in my opinion (and, yes, I've seem Hemsky play) Hemsky has not lived up to the expectations.

yes, his flashy brilliance have enchanted the Oilers fans but have not produced much else.

I have no idea what has gone on in that locker room to the point it was called 'toxic' by management, by in my limited view Hemsky is part of that veteran core that needs changing.

It will make absolutely no sense to bring Eberle in and draft Hall/Seguin just to have them serve master Hamsky.

my problem with Hemsky is he has not made this team better.

he's put himself in better light, yes. by default players playing with him got some points, but his part in this team probably reflects his 4mil pay grade, not more.

1st liner, yer, but as supportive cast.

Couple things:

1. How on earth can you say he hasn't made the team better.... we have the perfect break down right in front of our noses. Look at our record and our scoring when he was and wasn't in the line-up.

2. I always love the "he didn't live up to his potential" rational when talking about trading a guy. What exactly was his potential and how is it at all relavant? For the most part a guys "potential" is some fictional number or level that fans, media (and i guess orginizations put on a player) if we deemed his "potential" as a 90 point player, but he's only a 75 point player....he's still a 75 point player. Some said Crosby was the next Gretz, he clearly isn't .... does that mean he should be traded because he didn't "reach his potential"/

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#103 dragon
March 29 2010, 02:22PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

He hasnt produced much except nearly a point per game since the Lockout. How is Hemsky part of the toxic veteran core that crapped the bed this season considering he only played 1 quarter of the season? (the most successful quarter for the team)

And what makes you think anyone is serving "Master Hemsky"? How hasnt he made this team better? Which of his linemates wasnt helped by playing with him?

I understand wanting more from the guy; Leadership, goals, etc, but your accusations are totally baseless.

well, we've been down this path before...

all I'm saying is, as an Oilers fan, that I'd like to see somebody else give it a try.

whether is management not providing the supportive cast or Hemmer imploding after demanding he should carry the team during the 15 games of the season, the fact remains: this TEAM has not gone anywhere where centered around Hemsky.

I'd just like to see some new blood leading (or dangling...whatever).

POV, of course.

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#104 RossCreekNation
March 29 2010, 02:22PM
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@Crash

They should also get Tkachuk & Khabibulin too! Anyone else still playing?

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#105 dragon
March 29 2010, 02:23PM
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@OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

you cannot talk about Hemsky and Crosby in the same post.

can you...?

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#106 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 02:28PM
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Crash wrote:

I really hope Winnipeg does get them...it would be poetic justice too if they came back to where they left from...

If they do come back I hope Winnipeg steps up...even when times are bad

Times don't get that bad here - we're not a boom town.

The whole 'housing market crash' didn't even affect housing prices here. The market cooled a bit, but growth here tends to be a little steadier - especially when compared to the 'boom and bust' in the West.

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#107 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 02:28PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

They should also get Tkachuk & Khabibulin too! Anyone else still playing?

How soon we forget. How about SELANNE!

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#108 Archaeologuy
March 29 2010, 02:33PM
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@dragon

we have been down this path before. Check the scoring record during that 15 game stretch. He kept scoring, he was doing his part to keep the team going. The perception that he didnt keep his end of the bargain is nothing more than selective memory.

No team can go anywhere if there's only 1 player contributing, ask Atlanta.

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#109 Tracie
March 29 2010, 02:33PM
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Crash wrote:

I really hope Winnipeg does get them...it would be poetic justice too if they came back to where they left from...

If they do come back I hope Winnipeg steps up...even when times are bad

So Bettman didn't want to sell to Balsillie b/c he would move the team to Canada...but he's fine with selling the team to Winnipeg even though they have an arena that only holds 15,100??? This is bull! Bettman put this backup plan in place b/c if he doesn't have a deal in place by June, Balsillie is allowed to bid on it again! the MORON is putting his personal feelings before what's best for the team!

i was a huge jets fan and I cried when they left...so I'll be happy if the Jets get a team back and it would be great for Doan and the Coyotes to go back home where they belong. I just hate the fact that Bettman is too dumb to realize how much more money would be in his filthy little pockets if he just let Balsillie take a team from the States and move it to freakin Hamilton!

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#110 lenny
March 29 2010, 02:36PM
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I am reading this posts and do not understand anything. Usually when people trade they offer there worst for somebody's best and deal in the middle. You people are trading there best player in Hemsky for someone who could be good or bad soon or not so soon. Please tell me the logic behind this stupidity!

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#111 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 02:37PM
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Tracie wrote:

So Bettman didn't want to sell to Balsillie b/c he would move the team to Canada...but he's fine with selling the team to Winnipeg even though they have an arena that only holds 15,100??? This is bull! Bettman put this backup plan in place b/c if he doesn't have a deal in place by June, Balsillie is allowed to bid on it again! the MORON is putting his personal feelings before what's best for the team!

i was a huge jets fan and I cried when they left...so I'll be happy if the Jets get a team back and it would be great for Doan and the Coyotes to go back home where they belong. I just hate the fact that Bettman is too dumb to realize how much more money would be in his filthy little pockets if he just let Balsillie take a team from the States and move it to freakin Hamilton!

Bettman nixed the Balsillie deal because he tried to strong-arm his way into the league. Bettman even went on record saying that he's not opposed to a franchise in Winnipeg (even though he was making reference to a possible expansion).

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#112 Tracie
March 29 2010, 02:46PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

Bettman nixed the Balsillie deal because he tried to strong-arm his way into the league. Bettman even went on record saying that he's not opposed to a franchise in Winnipeg (even though he was making reference to a possible expansion).

Balsillie tried to be nice getting a team and Bettman nixed it...he also nixed Phoenix going to a Canadian venue b/c he beleives there is a successful market in Phoenix, they just needed a successful team. Balsillie played nice with the idea of Nashville going to Hamilton and it was still nixed. he enquired about Phoenix and got nixed so he tried the back door, although i don't agree with him going backdoor, I do think that Bettman has some sort of vendetta for not wanting Balsillie to have an NHL team

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#113 lenny
March 29 2010, 02:49PM
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Why no answer? You people remind me of Obama trading away friendship with Israel for friendship with PLO knowing that PLO will stick a sharp knife in the back of America. Trading Hemsky away? I can see the fun he is going to have with Oiler playing for Columbus.

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#114 Archaeologuy
March 29 2010, 02:49PM
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@Tracie

There was a lot of talk there about Balsillie going backdoor on Bettman.

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#115 Lofty
March 29 2010, 02:50PM
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Dave Smith wrote:

How do you explain his +/- and liability on the ice? If you want to go by the numbers POS is on the decline and Nilsson is on the way up.

Easy, our team sucks, hes been paired with crap players most the season too. By that stat Nilsson > Horcoff. And both are on the decline, Nilsson has 1 more goal than his high, wow, so much better. Hes still 14 pts from his high.

The team sucks but POS sucks the most. -32... are you kidding me?

How about having to play with him and know nothing good is going to come of it. He takes poor shots that gives away possession to the other team instead of making a pass or putting it in the corner for a cycle.

The guy had one good season in LA... hardly convincing.

As far as him vs. Nilsson's stats: he plays almost 4 more minutes than Nilsson per game and has 5 more assists and also has a bigger cap hit.

I'm not a fan of Nilsson but POS really hurts this team (but sure helps get a good draft pick)

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#116 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 02:54PM
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Tracie wrote:

Balsillie tried to be nice getting a team and Bettman nixed it...he also nixed Phoenix going to a Canadian venue b/c he beleives there is a successful market in Phoenix, they just needed a successful team. Balsillie played nice with the idea of Nashville going to Hamilton and it was still nixed. he enquired about Phoenix and got nixed so he tried the back door, although i don't agree with him going backdoor, I do think that Bettman has some sort of vendetta for not wanting Balsillie to have an NHL team

I honestly don't think it has to do with wanting a team in Canada or not.

If I were in Bettman's shoes and saw the option to sell the team to a billionaire in Toronto (who - by the way - wasn't really affiliated with True North during this Balsillie debacle) who wants to move the team to Winnipeg. I would compare this to the option to sell the team to Jim Balsillie.

It wouldn't be a difficult decision.

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#117 Lofty
March 29 2010, 02:55PM
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lenny wrote:

I am reading this posts and do not understand anything. Usually when people trade they offer there worst for somebody's best and deal in the middle. You people are trading there best player in Hemsky for someone who could be good or bad soon or not so soon. Please tell me the logic behind this stupidity!

If you want trade proposals that have Hemsky being delt straight up for the #1 pick, Spezza, Getzlaf, Crosby, etc... go to Hockeybuzz.

Your average Oiler fan thinks Hemsky is worth way more than his actual market value.

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#118 Dyckster
March 29 2010, 02:59PM
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@RossCreekNation

Shane Doan and Teemu are the only other ones I can think of. Isn't Paul McLean coaching somewhere, we might as well get him as well!

EDIT: Sorry OKPT, I missed your post RE: Selanne.

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#119 Tracie
March 29 2010, 03:03PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

I honestly don't think it has to do with wanting a team in Canada or not.

If I were in Bettman's shoes and saw the option to sell the team to a billionaire in Toronto (who - by the way - wasn't really affiliated with True North during this Balsillie debacle) who wants to move the team to Winnipeg. I would compare this to the option to sell the team to Jim Balsillie.

It wouldn't be a difficult decision.

So from that I'm assuming that you would go with True North...my question is why? Both have money to burn and both want NHL teams in NHL markets. Both will make the NHL and bettman lots of money and both seem to be stable business men who won't run away on their team at the first sign of a loss...so why choose True North OVER Balsillie? It must be personal is my reasoning...Balsillie didn't play dirty until he was rejected twice with no real reason...

I'm not trying to be an ass...but this whole situation just has me right choked and I would like to understand someone else view on it b/c you seem to be a more objective...

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#120 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 29 2010, 03:03PM
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dragon wrote:

you cannot talk about Hemsky and Crosby in the same post.

can you...?

My point had nothing to do with Hemsky vs Crosby and everything to do with demonstrating how reaching the level expected of a player should have no baring on trading or keeping him.

You make the decision based on what you have, not on what you have in comparison to what you thought you should be getting.

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#121 Crash
March 29 2010, 03:04PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

They should also get Tkachuk & Khabibulin too! Anyone else still playing?

Selanne is still going

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#122 RossCreekNation
March 29 2010, 03:05PM
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@Dyckster

Ya, Doan's already on Phoenix though. Paul MacLean is an assistant in Detroit.

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#123 RossCreekNation
March 29 2010, 03:08PM
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@Tracie

True North is likely the only possible ownership group in Winnipeg. Balsillie likely is not the only possible owner in GTA. GTA team will more likely be expansion than relocation.

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#124 Dyckster
March 29 2010, 03:09PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Ya, Doan's already on Phoenix though. Paul MacLean is an assistant in Detroit.

Ya, I was so quick to jump on the bandwagon, I neglected to think of that slightly important detail.

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#125 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 03:11PM
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Tracie wrote:

So from that I'm assuming that you would go with True North...my question is why? Both have money to burn and both want NHL teams in NHL markets. Both will make the NHL and bettman lots of money and both seem to be stable business men who won't run away on their team at the first sign of a loss...so why choose True North OVER Balsillie? It must be personal is my reasoning...Balsillie didn't play dirty until he was rejected twice with no real reason...

I'm not trying to be an ass...but this whole situation just has me right choked and I would like to understand someone else view on it b/c you seem to be a more objective...

I just think that the NHL prefers Winnipeg over Hamilton. It doesn't give you any issues with competing markets nearby (Toronto, Buffalo) because Winnipeg's closest neighbour is an 8hr drive. Winnipeg also has demonstrated dedication to pro-hockey in the form of the Manitoba Moose.

Another interesting piece of the puzzle (that I really had no idea about before) is the fact that the MTS Centre was built with a possibility to renovate to a capacity of roughly 19,000. It really doesn't seem like it to me as the seating is cramped as it is, and the second-bowl seating is so steep it gives me vertigo. I go to the MTS Centre a lot as my office is attached by the downtown skywalk, and I get cheap tickets on a corporate deal. If what I heard about increased capacity is true, that could be a huge bargaining chip.

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#126 lenny
March 29 2010, 03:11PM
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Lofty wrote:

If you want trade proposals that have Hemsky being delt straight up for the #1 pick, Spezza, Getzlaf, Crosby, etc... go to Hockeybuzz.

Your average Oiler fan thinks Hemsky is worth way more than his actual market value.

Maybe he is not as good as Crosby but for this team he is the best. See how they did AFTER Hemsky got injured! You do not trade away your best player unless his contract is up and that is not happening for another 2 years. I don't care what Hockeybuzz says, you should have your own brain.

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#127 Dyckster
March 29 2010, 03:12PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

The Jets could always add a second-gen player... Alex Steen!

We forgot about Kris Draper as well.....

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#128 Crash
March 29 2010, 03:12PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

The Jets could always add a second-gen player... Alex Steen!

And isn't Carter Ashton in the Tampa organization speaking of second gen?

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#129 Tracie
March 29 2010, 03:13PM
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@ Rosscreek

Ravil Gusmanov and Oleg Tverdosky are still playing...in the KHL. I didn't know if you just wanted info on Jets Alumni playing in the NHL.

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#130 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 03:15PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

True North is likely the only possible ownership group in Winnipeg. Balsillie likely is not the only possible owner in GTA. GTA team will more likely be expansion than relocation.

True North is largely owned by the Chipmans, who own a huge chain of car dealerships here. I was concerned about their ability to invest in something like an NHL franchise as the automotive industry was one of the few exceptions to what I said before regarding the whole economic downturn.

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#131 smiliegirl15
March 29 2010, 03:17PM
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Nilsson over POS just for +/- alone! I think Quinn has managed to make something of an actual worthwhile NHL player out of Nilsson.

Tambellini has some trades to make this summer for sure but I hope he doesn't go to the other extreme and start giving away the farm (and I'm not talking Springfield). Whitney was a great addition, especially since he seems to really compliment the skills of Gilbert, especially if we keep getting good Gilbert.

Hemsky's value with the Oilers is high because we really don't have anything better than him on our roster, injured or healthy. I think his value has become evident this season. He and Penner were starting to become a pretty solid pairing and if they had a complementary centre, I think this team could turn around next season.

With the success of the Coyotes in Phoenix this season, we won't see them pried out of there for a long time to come.

Getting both Hall and Seguin would be awesome but not sure it would be realistic. Thank you Robin, for this pipe dream. Would the price mean another year at the bottom?

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#132 Tracie
March 29 2010, 03:21PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

I just think that the NHL prefers Winnipeg over Hamilton. It doesn't give you any issues with competing markets nearby (Toronto, Buffalo) because Winnipeg's closest neighbour is an 8hr drive. Winnipeg also has demonstrated dedication to pro-hockey in the form of the Manitoba Moose.

Another interesting piece of the puzzle (that I really had no idea about before) is the fact that the MTS Centre was built with a possibility to renovate to a capacity of roughly 19,000. It really doesn't seem like it to me as the seating is cramped as it is, and the second-bowl seating is so steep it gives me vertigo. I go to the MTS Centre a lot as my office is attached by the downtown skywalk, and I get cheap tickets on a corporate deal. If what I heard about increased capacity is true, that could be a huge bargaining chip.

The GTA things makes sense but in my mind, that's just more political bullsh*t! I mean you can have two teams less 30 minutes away from eachother in NYR, and NYI, but you can't put a team almost an hour away?? I think the GTA area has more then enough people for two hockey teams, don't you?

But if they put a team in Winnipeg first that makes sense, especially if the arena will be able to be renovated to hold 19,000. Thanks for that info, I didn't know that.

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#133 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 03:26PM
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The other thing that people don't realize is the fact that Winnipeg's population (~700,000) really gets combined with Brandon 3 hours away (~50,000) Selkirk close-by (~25,000) and a bunch of cities in North Dakota that are 2-ish hours away like Fargo (~200,000) and Grand Forks (~100,000).

The salary cap is another factor that helps Winnipeg out.

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#134 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 03:29PM
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Tracie wrote:

The GTA things makes sense but in my mind, that's just more political bullsh*t! I mean you can have two teams less 30 minutes away from eachother in NYR, and NYI, but you can't put a team almost an hour away?? I think the GTA area has more then enough people for two hockey teams, don't you?

But if they put a team in Winnipeg first that makes sense, especially if the arena will be able to be renovated to hold 19,000. Thanks for that info, I didn't know that.

The whole '19,000 capacity' thing comes from a possibly-reliable source. I don't actually know if it's true, and like I said - from my personal experience it doesn't seem like it is.

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#135 Tracie
March 29 2010, 03:30PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

The other thing that people don't realize is the fact that Winnipeg's population (~700,000) really gets combined with Brandon 3 hours away (~50,000) Selkirk close-by (~25,000) and a bunch of cities in North Dakota that are 2-ish hours away like Fargo (~200,000) and Grand Forks (~100,000).

The salary cap is another factor that helps Winnipeg out.

This is true! the salary cap will go a long way to helping keep a team in Winnipeg! Would you get season tickets if the Jets came back?

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#136 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 29 2010, 03:33PM
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Tracie wrote:

This is true! the salary cap will go a long way to helping keep a team in Winnipeg! Would you get season tickets if the Jets came back?

North Dakotans love their hockey, too. UND was good enough for Jonathan Toews, after all!

I would definitely consider going halfers on it with a buddy of mine. What does a set of season tickets run in Edmonton? $4,000?

Edit: Keep in mind that I'm 23. I don't exactly have that kind of cheddar to toss around on a whim.

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#137 The Real Scuba Steve
March 29 2010, 03:53PM
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I hate to say it but the way our division is we might be in the same position next year.

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#138 Lofty
March 29 2010, 04:36PM
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lenny wrote:

Maybe he is not as good as Crosby but for this team he is the best. See how they did AFTER Hemsky got injured! You do not trade away your best player unless his contract is up and that is not happening for another 2 years. I don't care what Hockeybuzz says, you should have your own brain.

You said "Usually when people trade they offer there worst for somebody's best and deal in the middle." which sounds like most the trade props that people on hockeybuzz talk about. The other day I saw some prop suggesting Souray for the Bruins pick...

If you wait to trade away a good player when his contract is up you get almost nothing like with Bouwmeester and Kovalchuk. If the Oil trade him now they can get decent return otherwise it all starts going downhill.

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#139 Rusty duggan
March 29 2010, 04:40PM
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@Pokey Reddock

I should have mentioned that I had no basis for my thoughts on Hall, just a gut instinct.

What is the actual scoop are these guys, character wise? Brownlee, Gregor?

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#140 Hemmertime
March 29 2010, 04:54PM
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@BUCK75

I meant it needs to be a Bonafide star, and likely a C. Malkin is first name to come to mind since just seen his Jersey for sale. There is no way Pitts moves Malkin... however, big Joe I'd do, or anyone of that caliber that has over 4-5 years left on contract. Even if have to move the pick.

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#141 Senator Theo
March 29 2010, 04:55PM
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@RossCreekNation

I can't believe no one has brought up Randy Carlyle.

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#144 Crash
March 29 2010, 05:27PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Gents...Tkachuk scored against the Oilers last night...He also played for the Jets...

Yah, Ross Creek mentioned Tkachuk and Khabibulin in the original post and everyone has been trying to come up with others...and now we're even venturing into the gene pool with Alex Steen and Carter Ashton...lol

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#145 Puritania
March 29 2010, 05:38PM
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The Nilsson vs POS debate is quite simple to resolve. Send them both packing, they both stink.

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#146 rindog
March 29 2010, 05:39PM
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Why can't I find the game on TV?

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#147 rindog
March 29 2010, 05:41PM
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@rindog

Nevermind. My desktop calendar is wrong.

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#148 Skidplate
March 29 2010, 05:41PM
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What game?

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#149 Archaeologuy
March 29 2010, 05:51PM
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rindog wrote:

Nevermind. My desktop calendar is wrong.

Consider the possibility that your computer is right. What's the future like? I bet it's a lot like today but everyone rides hover-skateboards.

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