Do you see what I see, edition VII

Jason Gregor
March 29 2010 10:06AM

With less than two weeks to go in the season, how much can we take out of these final games?

Are five consecutive solid starts enough that the Oilers need to be concerned that a team will claim Devan Dubnyk next year? Or are they enough that the Oilers will keep him and waive Jeff Deslauriers? Or is trading one of them the best option for Steve Tambellini?

If he trades one then they have zero depth in the organization and with Nikolai Khabibulin’s age and recent back surgery I don’t know if that's the best option. The only way they trade one of them is if they can sign a journeyman veteran who won’t get claimed on waivers.

I don’t think Dubnyk has shown enough for a team to grab him and keep him as their back up next season.

Robert Nilsson and Patrick O’Sullivan are exact replicas. Soft and inconsistent yet they can tantalize you skill that gives you a false sense that they have turned the corner. O’Sullivan is a bit grittier, but like his consistency that facet of his game only appears from time-to-time. Does Tambellini keep one of them, or both?

Both of them are under 26 years of age, so they can be bought out for 1/3 of their salary, but I don’t see both of them getting the pink slip. If I had to choose I’d get rid of O’Sullivan first, but I bet the team parts ways with Nilsson.

Can the Oilers move forward with Sam Gagner and Andrew Cogliano as centremen? Not if they want to be a contender some day, but Cogliano has put up some decent numbers since being promoted off the 4th line. He has four goals and nine points in his last 11 games, after scoring five goals and 14 points in the first 64.

I think his promotion has been a showcase and he’ll be moved this summer. I like his game and I think he’ll be a 20-goal man very soon, but he just doesn’t fit in the long term plans with Gagner and Tyler Seguin in the mix. Yes, I said Seguin. I think that is who the Oilers should choose on June 1st, if they get the first pick.

The Oilers will move Cogliano for a winger with size or a solid D-man.

The more I think about it, the more realistic it seems that the Oilers might move Ales Hemsky. Hemsky likes Edmonton, but he is tired of losing. Either they move Hemsky or they improve his supporting cast so this team can make the playoffs. I don’t think the latter is that easy, so Hemsky might be dangled.

I know a majority of fans are dreaming of getting the top two picks, but that slim, and I mean slim, possibility will only happen if Boston or Columbus is the other team in the top two. Carolina, Tampa and the Islanders won’t trade the pick, but Boston and Columbus would at least consider it. Scott Howson and Peter Chiarelli need to win next season, while the other three can be patient.

Once again it looks like the east will have four of the top five picks. It’s no wonder many of the top young stars play in the east. Since the 2000 draft only once, 2007, has the west had three picks in the top five. Every other year the east has had at least three choices, and three times they have had four of the top five picks.

Here is who the east and west have drafted since 2000.

East West
Rick Dipietro Marian Gaborik
Dany Heatley   Rostislav Klesla
Raffi Torres Stanislav Chistov
Ilya Kovalchuk Rick Nash
Jason Spezza Nikolai Zherdev
Alexandr Svitov Cam Barker
Stephan Weiss Blake Wheeler
Kari Lehtonen Bobby Ryan
Jay Bouwmeester Benoit Pouliot
Joni Pitkanen Erik Johnson
Ryan Whitney Jonathon Toews
Marc-Andre Fleury Patrick Kane
Eric Staal Kyle Turris  
Nathan Horton Thomas Hickey
Thomas Vanek Drew Doughty
Alex Ovechkin  Alex Pietrangelo
Evgeni Malkin   Matt Duchene
Sidney Crosby  Brayden Schenn
Jack Johnson  
Carey Price  
Jordan Staal   
Nicklas Backstrom  
Phil Kessel  
James Van Riemsdyk   
Karl Alzner   
Steven Stamkos  
Zach Bogosian  
Luke Schenn  
John Tavares   
Victor Hedman   
Evander Kane  

The western teams need to learn how to suck better down the stretch. The Blue Jackets are 6-2-2 in their last ten and are now out of the bottom five, and if they keep rolling them might find themselves drafting 9th. Just more proof that you can’t get teams to purposely tank it down the stretch. The Jackets beat the Hawks twice in the last week.

With four straight wins it looks the Sharks have woke up and will get home ice advantage in the west. They won’t face Detroit in the first round, so I will pick the Sharks to represent the west in the Cup. I know they have Joe “I can’t play with emotion” Thornton, but I believe the Olympic experience will help him and with Dan Boyle, Dany Heatley and Patrick Marleau all winning the gold, the Sharks will finally make it to the fourth round.

I don’t like the Hawks goaltending, and I don’t think Vancouver’s defence is deep enough to win three rounds.

And it will be sweet to watch the Flames scratch and claw their way to 9th place in the west. They are dreaming if they think they will catch Colorado. They play each other this Friday, but it won’t matter. The Avs have five of their seven remaining games at home where they are 23-11-2. Sorry Flamers you won’t be going to the dance.

I wonder if the Flames would be in the playoffs if they showed as much fire as Jim Playfair, the head coach of their AHL team in Abbotsford.

Playfair lost it over the weekend. To bad he didn’t rip off his shirt,that would have been even funnier.

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#151 Canadasportsguy
March 29 2010, 09:21PM
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No way the Oilers keep O'Sullivan, I think the writing is on the wall and its better to keep Nilsson.

The Flames are toast and while I don't think Sutter gets the axe as the GM, he will be on the shortest of leashes next season.

The Flames have blown it. I've been saying for a year on my blog that they need to get Iginla out of town while his stock was high. It's almost getting too late to get a franchise pot of picks in return for him. His diminsihing value coupled with his high salary makes him at this point, untradeable.

Sutter, you blew it.

TBH

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#152 Biowolf
March 29 2010, 11:42PM
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Of all the options available you can bet the oiler´s management will select the worst one and do it. No chance these guys will build a winning team.

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#153 Biowolf
March 29 2010, 11:57PM
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Bring in Doug and Marc Messier. I bet you things would change in a flash. To the worse? That is not possible in this case. So what is the risk. As a matter of fact, bring in anybody including Mike Milbury and things cant get worse.

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#154 Hemmertime
March 30 2010, 02:01AM
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Ballsy comment. We could ignore Hall and Seguin and take a goalie.

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#155 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
March 30 2010, 07:08AM
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Biowolf wrote:

Bring in Doug and Marc Messier. I bet you things would change in a flash. To the worse? That is not possible in this case. So what is the risk. As a matter of fact, bring in anybody including Mike Milbury and things cant get worse.

late night internet party at the alberta hospital?

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#156 Bill Rizer
March 30 2010, 07:53AM
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Is Teppo Numminen still playing? He was on the Jets if I recall.

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#157 madjam
March 30 2010, 07:56AM
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Biowolf wrote:

Bring in Doug and Marc Messier. I bet you things would change in a flash. To the worse? That is not possible in this case. So what is the risk. As a matter of fact, bring in anybody including Mike Milbury and things cant get worse.

Messier is what this Oiler club needs to instill a fight " in the dog" and "competitive edge" this club of ours sadly lacks . Too many Oilers have lost that competitive edge and have been too satisfied in just earning a position and playing/ managing on skill only . Teams and players that develop their games use a strong work ethic to compliment and make their game better than just their skills . You don't wait for others to fight your battles you overcome your deficiencies (size , etc. ) by your desire to minimize them yourself . Underdeveloped talent in our club is the result of too many players being allowed to play soft and float on talent alone . Gags and rest of crew had that fire to begin with , and have not found it again since the first season . Penner discovered it early in season and has since lost it again . Horcoff had it his contract year and he lost it again .In fact ,you can say the Oilers as a club have pretty much all lost it . It appears very infrequently (desire and work ethic to compliment their skill level ). A fireball like Messier just might be able to get that desire and competitive edge back or bring in players with character to provide it . Quinn talks of it , but is not having much success getting players to do it . Even a new Whitney can see our club is too satisfied with a losing attitude, and a group that is waiting for others to do the little things each player should be doing for themselves and teammates . Our club has a severe motivational problem along with many other obvious ones that management has done little to correct over the last few years . Fear of Messier ripping their heads off just might be the motivational edge this club lacks to move forward !

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#158 smiliegirl15
March 30 2010, 08:04AM
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Mark Messier is not the one who will save the Oilers. Enough of the old boys club already! If they're not going to turf Tambellini then this summer is his last chance. He had better start listening to Quinn about who this team needs in the way of players and start getting it done.

As for Sutter, he was a much better coach than he is GM. He had his salary cap debacle last season and a group of also rans this seaon. He took a fairly decent team and traded himself out of the playoffs.

@cableguy! Quote of the week!!!

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#159 VMR
March 30 2010, 08:40AM
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@Canadasportsguy

Are you kidding? Iginla is still a premiere forward in this league and tons of teams would trade for him. He's going to be close to a ppg with around 35 goals, he's big strong and fights for the puck. Who wouldnt want him?

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#160 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 30 2010, 08:41AM
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Canadasportsguy wrote:

No way the Oilers keep O'Sullivan, I think the writing is on the wall and its better to keep Nilsson.

The Flames are toast and while I don't think Sutter gets the axe as the GM, he will be on the shortest of leashes next season.

The Flames have blown it. I've been saying for a year on my blog that they need to get Iginla out of town while his stock was high. It's almost getting too late to get a franchise pot of picks in return for him. His diminsihing value coupled with his high salary makes him at this point, untradeable.

Sutter, you blew it.

TBH

~I'd say at this point 95% of the league is "untradable" for salary reasons~

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#161 Ender
March 30 2010, 08:58AM
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@madjam

Coaching is not this team's problem. You can't get blood from a stone.

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#162 madjam
March 30 2010, 09:30AM
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Ender wrote:

Coaching is not this team's problem. You can't get blood from a stone.

On the contrary . Motivation and getting quality work from employees is/has always been the top priority of every managerial/coaching team ! Keeping that in mind , how well has coaching staffed faired over the season ? Thats simple business practice and goal setting, and is part and parcel of every good business course and plan . You may not agree , but where has our coaching made us any better or reached an acceptable level ? If managing and being deadlast is acceptable ,then maybe in some peoples eyes that is good enough . Ultimately ,in all better business , management (that includes coaching ) is responsible for productivity out of it's workforce , and is accountable for it . Bad management is bad production -plain and simple . In management, your paid to get results not C.Y.A (Cover Your Asses) with excuses all the time .

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#163 Ender
March 30 2010, 09:37AM
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madjam wrote:

On the contrary . Motivation and getting quality work from employees is/has always been the top priority of every managerial/coaching team ! Keeping that in mind , how well has coaching staffed faired over the season ? Thats simple business practice and goal setting, and is part and parcel of every good business course and plan . You may not agree , but where has our coaching made us any better or reached an acceptable level ? If managing and being deadlast is acceptable ,then maybe in some peoples eyes that is good enough . Ultimately ,in all better business , management (that includes coaching ) is responsible for productivity out of it's workforce , and is accountable for it . Bad management is bad production -plain and simple . In management, your paid to get results not C.Y.A (Cover Your Asses) with excuses all the time .

lol. Feel free to explain what a coach's role is all you like, but it doesn't change the fact that there isn't a coach alive that could have motivated this roster into the playoffs. You want to blame management? Fine; I'm with you there. But saying that this season's disaster is Quinn/Renney's fault just illustrates that you haven't been paying attention. They've been told to overhaul an engine using pretzels and dental floss. If you don't feel sorry for them, read through the player list just one more time.

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#164 BUCK75
March 30 2010, 09:37AM
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@madjam

Ridiculous. If anything was proven in the past couple of seasons the coaching is not the problem.

I agreed last season it's easier to get rid of a coaching staff than players, now we are going down the change the players road.

Keep in mind that I am not a billionaire, but I wouldn't want to be paying an all star coaching team for nothing until their Oilers contract is over. Why do you think MacT isn't coaching somewhere? He is still getting paid by the oilers...

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#165 Bucknuck
March 30 2010, 09:40AM
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Ender wrote:

Coaching is not this team's problem. You can't get blood from a stone.

You said it. They tried a coaching change. It made no difference. Obviously the "cast" is the issue, and there isn't that much a coach can do to change that.

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#166 Pajamah
March 30 2010, 09:54AM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

late night internet party at the alberta hospital?

Are you saying the father of a guy who used to play the sport isn't qualified to practically run a professional sports franchise in a billion dollar league?

My daughter starts soccer in 2 weeks, which gives me approx 18 months to own Manchester United

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#167 roughneck
March 30 2010, 09:56AM
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@madjam

Maybe adjust your time machine... messier hasnt ripped anyones head off in 25 years. Dont confuse Messier circa 1984 with the guy who is now getting Sather his morning coffee in New York.

FWIW an illustration on in your face managerial and coaching stylings can be found in the other nhl team in this province. Doesnt do much to inspire me even though the dudes administering the relative levels of abuse do/did have rather impressive reputations as players. (in that tough guy mould). That schtick still works on kids in junior but Im afraid it has begun its fade into oblivion in the show. I would surmise that Messier is aware of that as he is getting a first hand glimpse into another raving lunatics show and his success or lack thereof.

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#168 David S
March 30 2010, 10:45AM
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Ender wrote:

Coaching is not this team's problem. You can't get blood from a stone.

MacT's epitaph.

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#169 Bucknuck
March 30 2010, 11:11AM
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David S wrote:

MacT's epitaph.

Kinda makes me feel bed for calling for his termination papers all of last year.

oops

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#170 madjam
March 30 2010, 12:20PM
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We need some "Kick-ass " not coddlers , i feel . Sounds to me like a lot of you are as content as team is with losing . I have doubts any of you fans had taken business courses or been in management at any level, or you would know what i was talking about -it's common knowledge to most in management ? Tams ,told you last season it was coaching and you all seem to buy it - how pathetic . Is there anything he sells you you do not buy hook,line and sinker ?

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#171 The Real Scuba Steve
March 30 2010, 12:30PM
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madjam wrote:

Messier is what this Oiler club needs to instill a fight " in the dog" and "competitive edge" this club of ours sadly lacks . Too many Oilers have lost that competitive edge and have been too satisfied in just earning a position and playing/ managing on skill only . Teams and players that develop their games use a strong work ethic to compliment and make their game better than just their skills . You don't wait for others to fight your battles you overcome your deficiencies (size , etc. ) by your desire to minimize them yourself . Underdeveloped talent in our club is the result of too many players being allowed to play soft and float on talent alone . Gags and rest of crew had that fire to begin with , and have not found it again since the first season . Penner discovered it early in season and has since lost it again . Horcoff had it his contract year and he lost it again .In fact ,you can say the Oilers as a club have pretty much all lost it . It appears very infrequently (desire and work ethic to compliment their skill level ). A fireball like Messier just might be able to get that desire and competitive edge back or bring in players with character to provide it . Quinn talks of it , but is not having much success getting players to do it . Even a new Whitney can see our club is too satisfied with a losing attitude, and a group that is waiting for others to do the little things each player should be doing for themselves and teammates . Our club has a severe motivational problem along with many other obvious ones that management has done little to correct over the last few years . Fear of Messier ripping their heads off just might be the motivational edge this club lacks to move forward !

Hey I will take anybody for Klowe, Tambo.

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#172 Bucknuck
March 30 2010, 12:30PM
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@madjam

When Tambellini speaks I hear mwah mwah mwah like in the peanuts cartoons when the adults speak. I make my own judgements, thank you very much.

I am a successful business manager, and what you are talking about is akin to sendin a bunch of plumbers to do a complex industrial electrical project and then blaming the foreman on site when there are project delays. MANAGEMENT is Tambellini's role and he is the problem. Not quinn (AKA the foreman).

Common knowledge is that an employee is only as good as the tools you give them to do the job, or did you sleep through that in your business class?

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#173 Crash
March 30 2010, 01:03PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

Kinda makes me feel bed for calling for his termination papers all of last year.

oops

He still needed to go....IMO it has paved the way to rid the team of it's older core (ie: Staios, Moreau, Pisani) and to allow the leadership change to begin...

Under MacT I don't believe this would have happened, at least not this quickly.

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#174 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 30 2010, 01:10PM
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Crash wrote:

He still needed to go....IMO it has paved the way to rid the team of it's older core (ie: Staios, Moreau, Pisani) and to allow the leadership change to begin...

Under MacT I don't believe this would have happened, at least not this quickly.

It was mentioned on the radio a few weeks back that MacT and the old core (or at least some of it) didn't get along, and that it went so far that one of Moreau/Staios/Horcoff were no longer on speaking terms with Mctavish.

I doubt it was because of Craig that those guys were sticking around.

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#175 Word
March 30 2010, 01:24PM
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I gotta be honest - I'm not totally sold on Quinn, and I think I would prefer to see Renney take the reigns next year.

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#176 Dan the Man
March 30 2010, 01:25PM
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Brule being replaced by Comrie on Penner's line tonight.

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#177 Dyckster
March 30 2010, 01:31PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

When Tambellini speaks I hear mwah mwah mwah like in the peanuts cartoons when the adults speak. I make my own judgements, thank you very much.

I am a successful business manager, and what you are talking about is akin to sendin a bunch of plumbers to do a complex industrial electrical project and then blaming the foreman on site when there are project delays. MANAGEMENT is Tambellini's role and he is the problem. Not quinn (AKA the foreman).

Common knowledge is that an employee is only as good as the tools you give them to do the job, or did you sleep through that in your business class?

X2,980,112

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#178 madjam
March 30 2010, 01:46PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

When Tambellini speaks I hear mwah mwah mwah like in the peanuts cartoons when the adults speak. I make my own judgements, thank you very much.

I am a successful business manager, and what you are talking about is akin to sendin a bunch of plumbers to do a complex industrial electrical project and then blaming the foreman on site when there are project delays. MANAGEMENT is Tambellini's role and he is the problem. Not quinn (AKA the foreman).

Common knowledge is that an employee is only as good as the tools you give them to do the job, or did you sleep through that in your business class?

I have been saying your last comment frequently in the past . I try to limit going to far and always being repetitive and lenghthy . Do i think Quinn has done a good job - no , not even as good as MacT. did under similiar circumstances .

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#179 Matt Henderson
March 30 2010, 01:56PM
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@madjam

MacT didnt have similar circumstances.

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#180 Crash
March 30 2010, 02:16PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

It was mentioned on the radio a few weeks back that MacT and the old core (or at least some of it) didn't get along, and that it went so far that one of Moreau/Staios/Horcoff were no longer on speaking terms with Mctavish.

I doubt it was because of Craig that those guys were sticking around.

That's interesting because it seemed under MacT, many of the older core could do no wrong especially Horcoff and Moreau...

I guess in my own mind I felt with MacT out of the way it would make it easier for the organization and new coaching staff to no longer treat the older core with kid gloves.

Oh well...maybe Quinn isn't the answer but I'm still convinced MacTavish had to go.

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#181 Bucknuck
March 30 2010, 02:25PM
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Word wrote:

I gotta be honest - I'm not totally sold on Quinn, and I think I would prefer to see Renney take the reigns next year.

I am curious to see how things go next year. If the team continues to skid hard I think you may get your wish.

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#182 David S
March 30 2010, 02:39PM
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If Quinn were given:

a) The tools to win + b) The mandate to win

I bet you'd be alot more sold on him.

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#183 Ender
March 30 2010, 02:42PM
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@madjam

Let's say you're involved in horse racing. Let's also say that your horse is losing every race. It lost every race last year too. Last year, you decided the jockey was the problem (MacT) so you ditched him and got a new jockey (Quinn). Horse still losing. Here's the question you have to ask yourself, madjam:

Is the problem finding a jockey that can whip the horse across the finish line first, or is the problem the guy who continues to race the slow horse and keeps wondering why it won't run faster?

You decide. Me, I think we need a new horse.

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#184 Lofty
March 30 2010, 03:14PM
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Ender wrote:

Let's say you're involved in horse racing. Let's also say that your horse is losing every race. It lost every race last year too. Last year, you decided the jockey was the problem (MacT) so you ditched him and got a new jockey (Quinn). Horse still losing. Here's the question you have to ask yourself, madjam:

Is the problem finding a jockey that can whip the horse across the finish line first, or is the problem the guy who continues to race the slow horse and keeps wondering why it won't run faster?

You decide. Me, I think we need a new horse.

~not a fair example, Quinn would snap that horses back.~

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#185 Bucknuck
March 30 2010, 03:16PM
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Lofty wrote:

~not a fair example, Quinn would snap that horses back.~

If I were a horse I would rather carry MacTavish.

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#186 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
March 30 2010, 03:37PM
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Ender wrote:

Let's say you're involved in horse racing. Let's also say that your horse is losing every race. It lost every race last year too. Last year, you decided the jockey was the problem (MacT) so you ditched him and got a new jockey (Quinn). Horse still losing. Here's the question you have to ask yourself, madjam:

Is the problem finding a jockey that can whip the horse across the finish line first, or is the problem the guy who continues to race the slow horse and keeps wondering why it won't run faster?

You decide. Me, I think we need a new horse.

~you can take your "common sense" and "logic" elsewhere mr.~

fire MacT!!!!! wooooooo!!!!!

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#187 Canadasportsguy
March 30 2010, 07:50PM
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VMR wrote:

Are you kidding? Iginla is still a premiere forward in this league and tons of teams would trade for him. He's going to be close to a ppg with around 35 goals, he's big strong and fights for the puck. Who wouldnt want him?

He is still a premiere guy in this league? That is very debatable. You need to stop living in the past. Is he worth 7MM per? For the next 3-4 years at his age? Do you want to keep him into next season and have a guy scoring 70 pts making that cash? Move him, stay fresh, get something that you can rebuild and replenish with.

TBH

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#188 DoubleJ
March 30 2010, 08:01PM
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JDD why would you jump in the air? You are 6'4" the net is 4' high? Yeah it was probably a high stick. But why,why would you jump. Let it go over the net into the corner. Or make the save.

Of course, I comment in the wrong forum.

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#189 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 30 2010, 09:12PM
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Canadasportsguy wrote:

He is still a premiere guy in this league? That is very debatable. You need to stop living in the past. Is he worth 7MM per? For the next 3-4 years at his age? Do you want to keep him into next season and have a guy scoring 70 pts making that cash? Move him, stay fresh, get something that you can rebuild and replenish with.

TBH

He's only the 13th highest paid forward in the leauge ...and that's now skewed with a handful of long term, heavy front loaded contracts. I think it's fair to say he's still roughly a top 20 forward in the league which would make him roughly "fair value" at that price point.

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#190 Cowbell_Feva
March 30 2010, 10:47PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

When Tambellini speaks I hear mwah mwah mwah like in the peanuts cartoons when the adults speak. I make my own judgements, thank you very much.

I am a successful business manager, and what you are talking about is akin to sendin a bunch of plumbers to do a complex industrial electrical project and then blaming the foreman on site when there are project delays. MANAGEMENT is Tambellini's role and he is the problem. Not quinn (AKA the foreman).

Common knowledge is that an employee is only as good as the tools you give them to do the job, or did you sleep through that in your business class?

As monotone and melodramatic as Tambi might be, he has done a much better job than KLowe did- after all, who created the mess that poor Tambi inherited?? Moved a struggling Cole for O'Sulli & Kotalik last year (won that trade) and now unloaded a lot of dead weight at the back-end to create cap space for the rebuild. Speaking of "the tools given to them to do the job" these TOOLS (ie, Horc @ 5.5, Pisani, Moreau,etc.etc.) are what Tambi was given. Ken Holland, Stevie Y, and Scotty Bowman combined couldn't turn around this mess in Tambi's tenure!!

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#191 Cowbell_Feva
March 30 2010, 10:50PM
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Don't forget Draper!

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#192 Cowbell_Feva
March 30 2010, 10:53PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

The attitude towards Edmonton trading away Hemsky for one of the top picks is interesting. It's awfully polarized, isn't it? On the one hand, you have people saying that there's no way Boston/CBJ get rid of the pick because Hemsky isn't as good as we think he is. On the other hand, you have people saying that Edmonton would be stupid to trade Hemsky because it's 'just a draft pick'.

Let's not forget people- Hemsky has been flanked by the most enimic,overpaid,and soft #1 center in NHL history, Shawn Horcoff. Give Hemsky someone-anyone to play with and it would show the world how truley gifted he is.

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#193 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 30 2010, 11:17PM
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Cowbell_Feva wrote:

As monotone and melodramatic as Tambi might be, he has done a much better job than KLowe did- after all, who created the mess that poor Tambi inherited?? Moved a struggling Cole for O'Sulli & Kotalik last year (won that trade) and now unloaded a lot of dead weight at the back-end to create cap space for the rebuild. Speaking of "the tools given to them to do the job" these TOOLS (ie, Horc @ 5.5, Pisani, Moreau,etc.etc.) are what Tambi was given. Ken Holland, Stevie Y, and Scotty Bowman combined couldn't turn around this mess in Tambi's tenure!!

Thanks for the laugh. I don't remember any last place finishes when Lowe was GM.

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#194 madjam
March 31 2010, 07:48AM
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Lofty wrote:

~not a fair example, Quinn would snap that horses back.~

Love the races . Quinn might create quite the problem size wise , especially if it were the sulkies . I'd probably put the horse on Lasix first - juice him up . Jockey changes are frequent along with a lot of other variables in the sport . Not a fair comparison .

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