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Wanye
March 03 2010 03:25PM

"Its just one of those days when you don't wanna wake up, everything is f***ed, everybody sucks. You don't really know why but you wanna justify, rippin' someone's head off. Your best bet is to stay away mother f****r - its just one of those days."

- Fred Durst of Limp Bizkit fame rapping directly to Oilers fans around the world.

So this is it is it Nation? After a season of waiting for someone - anyone among the 4,026 people collecting a Kay-Z paycheque to run this team - to step up and fix the squadron and provide us with a micron of hope. This is the best we could do is it?

It is clear that we have now crossed the threshold of a team looking to make upgrades to the current roster and have now become a team looking to blow it all up and let it all die. 17 points out of 14th place in the Western Conference, it's hard to imagine how things could get worse for the Oilers.

But that is exactly what the monkeys running the zoo have been able to pull off.

So, lets take a quick gander at the trades the Oilers managed to pull off today shall we?

INSULT NUMBER ONE

Lubomir Visnovsky to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for Ryan Whitney and a sixth-round draft pick.

Wow, where do we start with this humdinger of a crappy deal? Perhaps by pointing out that dealing away the only only offensive defenseman that isn't currently staring down hand amputation surgery - helpfully announced with about an hour to the deadline we might add - the Oilers are basically saying "there is no sense keeping good players around here. Not with what we are in the midst of destroying."

RYAN WHITNEY - 4 Million per season, signed through 2012-13.

2009-10 ANA 62 GP 4G 24A  28 Pts  -6 48 PIM

2008-09 ANA 20 GP 0G 10A 10 Pts +1 12 PIM

2008-09 PIT 28 GP 2G 11A 13 Pts -15 16 PIM

2007-08 PIT 76 GP 12G 28A 40 Pts -2 45 PIM

2006-07 PIT 81 GP 14G 45 A 59 Pts +9 77 PIM

2005-06 PIT 68 GP 6G 32A 38 Pts -7 85 PIM

Here is the boiled down deal with Whitney. When he broke into the league with Pittsburgh, he collected mad second assists, scored at an above average pace for a defenseman and used to hit. This all went down on a young gun team of Penguins and he was able to coast along with an offensively gifted team.

Then he stopped hitting, scoring and collecting points and got dealt to Anaheim late last year.

Then the Ducks took a look at him doing less and less and dealt him to the Oilers for one of the better offensive defensemen in the game in Visnovsky. Even on the worst team in the NHL (and possibly the AHL) Visnovsky has been able to contribute regularly this season and was arguably one of the only positives on the team.

This trade is a salary dump - plain and simple - and for 1.6 million less per season it wasn't even a good one in that regard. The Oilers are still paying 4 million for a substantially worse defenseman that they have up for another 3 seasons to come.

Welcome to the Oilers Tom Gilbert II.

INSULT NUMBER TWO

Steve Staios to the Calgary Flames for defenceman Aaron Johnson and a third round draft pick.

Steve Staios, Assistant Captain and former folk hero with 99% of Edmontonians, has exactly one year left on his contract but was moved to the Calgary Flames of all teams to save $2.7 million dollars on a team that will still be incapable of even hoping to be .500 next year. Remember when trading within your Conference or Division was considered unwise? Remember when deals with the Flames were rarer than a 2010 Oilers victory? All these rules seem to have gone out the window now.

It's as though the Oilers head office have a secret list of "the hell we can put our fan base though in a 6 year period" and they are just checking off each item as fast as they can.

Really Tambellini? Staios to the Flames huh? Are there any insults left you can hurl in our collective direction?

We aren't going to even bother looking at Aaron Johnson's career stats. Know why? Cause he sucks and we don't care. And as he is a UFA at the end of the season hopefully he hits the dusty trail as quickly as he arrived.

HERE IS WHAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND

As crappy as the Oilers have been, they have at least been able to lay claim to a decent - albeit expensive - defensive corps. It has been one of the few bright spots on this team that justice and time have forgotten. But now with the departures of Lubo, Staios and Grebs, coupled with the wonderfully timed season ending hand infection suffered by Sheldon Souray, this leaves the Oilers with the following defenseman:

Whitney - Gilbert

Smid - Studwick

JUNK - JUNK

JUNK

This could be somehow overlooked if by some miracle the holes on the team had actually been plugged as a result of the decimation of our defensive corps. Defensive forward anyone? Nope. Physical forward or d-man capable of hardening up this butter soft lineup? Nope. The ever elusive player capable of winning faceoffs on a regular basis? Crickets. A mercy trade for our shell shocked Captain? Nein. A goalie to plug in behind Glug Glug Ripoffibulin and the backup AHL goaltending duo? No.

How can we have even less hope after the trade deadline? It boggles the mind.

We are really rollin' now.

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#2 In Hall We Trust
March 03 2010, 04:14PM
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Ok im not sure why everybody is in panic mode. The sky is not falling !!!

1) Tambo got us a depth player who can play physical in Ryan Jones. Everybody complains this team is far too soft.

2) Tambo got rid of the turnover machine known as Grebeshkov (Garbagekov).

3) We dumped a bad contract in Lubo (33 with 3 more seasons left on his contract)and added a younger more physical d-man in Ryan Whitney (yeah he makes 4 million per but Zidlicky just got 4 million per contract so is it that bad?)

4) We cut more cap in Steve Staios (seriously this isnt a bad move)

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#3 stilldrinkingthekoolaid
March 03 2010, 03:29PM
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rebuilding sucks don't it?

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#4 Ender
March 03 2010, 03:31PM
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I still can't get over how our blueline looks tonight. I wonder what someone on the 'Hawks top six had to give the Devil to make this happen?

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#5 seymour glass
March 03 2010, 03:36PM
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wanye, you are an idiot.

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#6 Travis Dakin
March 03 2010, 03:52PM
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So essentially, it is now Jarret Stoll and Matt Greene for Ryan Whitney straight up.....

This team could really use a young veteran, right handed, face-off winning, special teams playing, captain Material centre and a young veteran, big, bruising stay-at-home Defenceman that is captain material who hurts people right about now....

That Deal sure worked out well for the Oilers.

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#8 Rick
March 03 2010, 03:42PM
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To read how Anaheim fans (and Pittsburgh fans for that matter) decribe Whitney, he sounds alot like that guy....what was his name again?

Oh yeah Grebeshkov, remember the one that cost a million less and was traded for Nashville's best player...or wait second round pick.

Well atleast Tambellini has a plan...right?

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#9 Zamboni Driver
March 03 2010, 03:49PM
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Plus, I can stop checking and rechecking how the hell to spell Staios now!

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#10 Chris.
March 03 2010, 03:50PM
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O'm on board with Wayne on this one... Tambellini should have got more for Visnovsky. The big bag of needs has only gotten bigger with only a few late round picks arriving back in return. Epic fail.

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#11 The Towel Boy
March 03 2010, 03:51PM
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This game against the lowly Hawks and their lame offense is going to be a good easy game for our AHL D-men to cut their teeth on.

What?

Oh?

Oh really?

Kane AND Toews?

Oh I see.

FML.

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#12 Chris.
March 03 2010, 03:54PM
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I would rather have Visnovsky than an extra 1.6 million in cap space.

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#13 Bucknuck
March 03 2010, 03:56PM
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Heavyd wrote:

Why fill holes for 20 games?

I hope that in the offseason we will start seeing the Oilers fill those certain holes.

I think the underlying fear is that the holes as we see them aren't the holes as Tambellini sees them. The Oil had three major problems this offseason:

Problems: faceoffs, need shutdown defenseman, too many small forwards

So what does he do?

Faceoffs - unloads Brodziak for a fifth rounder. Shutdown Defensemen - signs grebs to another year and stands pat. Too many small forwards - signs Comrie.

I liked the Comrie signing but only if you are trading one of the other shrimps. Now we have a trade deadline and AGAIN all those weaknesses are ignored. It makes me nervous. I have no confidence that Tambi even sees these things as weaknesses and so I am worried.

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#14 RossCreekNation
March 03 2010, 03:57PM
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On the bright side, the Flames added Staios... not Moreau.

*looks proudly at glass, 1/8 full, not 7/8 empty*

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#15 Tracie
March 03 2010, 04:01PM
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@Bucknuck

Props Bucknuck! That's exactly correct! I mean, why the hell should we put our faith in this guy when he hasn't even been able to see the glaring holes??

I guess we will wait until the off season now but I'm not holding my breath that we will be happy after trades made in the off season either...

And it gives me less hope about the team we have in September...

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#16 Ender
March 03 2010, 04:03PM
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Chris. wrote:

I would rather have Visnovsky than an extra 1.6 million in cap space.

A-freakin'-men.

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#17 Travis Dakin
March 03 2010, 04:12PM
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So whatever happened to The Ducks wanting Moreau? Why the hell couldn't they find a way to make the Ducks take him with Visnovski? I think that would have been a nice courtesy from the Ducks.

You know, a little extra lube to ease the forced entry.

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#18 Matt Henderson
March 03 2010, 04:17PM
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@In Hall We Trust

Visnovsky's contract wasnt bad. He was the only D-Man on the team that was actually earning his paycheck. The other contracts were bad, his was just expensive. There is a difference.

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#19 Mur
March 03 2010, 04:19PM
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What a garbage article! Maybe Oilers Nation could trade Wanye!!!!!!!!!!

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#20 David S
March 03 2010, 04:55PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

You all think you're depressed. Imagine how Ales Hemsky feels:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNRUjnp-5Rw

Katz asks Tambellini to join him in his office after today's activities...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akOSLIf_DvU&feature=related

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#21 Ender
March 03 2010, 05:30PM
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I needed time to process. I’ve processed now. Here are the three reasons why the Whitney/Vishnovsky trade absolutely stinks:

1) As Rick pointed out, Whitney and Grebeshkov are very similar players. I spent some time following up on their stats; their scoring rates are almost identical and the slightly better +/- from Whitney is offset by Grebs slightly younger age and slightly higher goal-scoring ability. Add to this the fact that Whitney got these numbers playing for the Ducks while Grebs got his playing for the Oilers, and Grebs actually comes out looking (to me) like the better player. (I know. It shocked me too. Sorry, Wanye.) Oh, and here’s the kicker: Grebs was doing it for about $1M less per year. Where are we going with this? (Secondrounder in / Grebs out) + (Grebsclone in / Visnovsky out) ≈ (Secondrounder in / Visnovsky out) And that makes me sick. The savings for Vis/Whitney are eaten up by the price increase on Whitney/Grebs, so salary is a wash and it ends up to be dumping Visnovsky for a pick.

2) In case you’re curious about actual salary, Visnovsky’s deal was getting cheaper every year. Whitney’s is getting more expensive. I’m sure Katz doesn’t mind, right Tambo?

3) As Travis Dakin pointed out, Stoll+Greene for Vishnovsky for Whitney = Stoll+Greene for Whitney. Methink me no likey.

The more I think about it, the more I hate this deal. Spin it however you like; this is the day I’m officially onboard the FTNF bandwagon.

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#22 GLoKz0r
March 03 2010, 07:04PM
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I don't think I'll ever understand people's reactions to days like this. What did you expect? Did you really think 1pm was going to roll around, and we were going to be well on our way through the rebuilding process?

Face it folks, we're in this for the long haul. This isn't something that was going to get fixed today.. it's not going to get fixed this off season... we'll probably still be shaking our fists in frustration NEXT off season. If rebuilds were painless, do you think there'd ever be any hesitation? The minute a team was out of the playoff race, GM's would just detonate.

Pittsburgh drafted Crosby with their first round pick. They proceeded to finish dead last that season with a Rookie who put up a 100+ point season. Did you think that we were going to bust out of this one and be playoff bound next season? Give your head a shake. I'd bet dollars to donuts the fans in Chicago weren't exactly ready to hand the key to the city over to their GM either while they wallowed through one piss poor season after another and watched good players get parted out for crap and picks.

We had huge cap problems going in to the deadline day with some key contracts coming to bear on us July 1st. Bitch and moan about the lack of return on Viz all you want, we need the money to sign our young guys more than we need someone who's going to need a walker and portable air tank by the time we're ready to compete.

And Staios? Who cares WHERE he goes so long as he's gone. Nothing but love for the guy, but that 2.7 mil is gonna be mighty handy when Gagner, Cogs and Brule are sitting at the negotiation table this summer. Not to mention we get another pick (Guess what rebuilding teams need? PICKS!)

You guys better get used to this. If Player X's age is >30, they'll likely be shipped for whatever we can get for them.

More to the point, if you think Tambo is going to start kicking doors down to fill all our holes now, rather than in the off season, you should probably look around your room for a paint can with a loose lid or something; there's some fumes doing damage to yer brain. Why trade now for something that might be attainable for free on the FA Market in the off season. (And to hell with this "Edmonton can't sign anyone on the FA Market" nonsense. If that's the case, we're screwed no matter what GM is at the helm, because if you can't even attract some gritty PKers and a decent face off man through the FA, this team will never be complete.)

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#23 Kaiser Wilhelm
March 03 2010, 03:32PM
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Today was the last thing I was actually looking forward to this season: send Moreau and Staios out for some decent young prospects/draft picks, maybe pick up one or two bad UFA salarys in exchange, at least have something for next year. Even with those low expectations, today was like three hard kicks in the groin. Randy Jones and Ray Whitney? I'm speechless.

I've been a diehard for my entire life, but it looks like the bandwagon is about to fall apart for this team. I'm sorry to say it, but we are now the Atlanta Thrashers of Canada, and its is utterly depressing.

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#25 VMR
March 03 2010, 03:37PM
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Our defence hasnt been adequate let alone decent. They may move the puck ok but if they dont have the puck they dont know what to do and constantly fail to cover open players/defend the front of the net or fight for the puck. This had to be done. I'm not sure Whitney is the answer but it's a start.

The one thing for certain now is we are in a rebuild and it's not going to be turning around next season. Dump the blame on Tambellini if you want but the problems on this team didnt show up in one season.

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#26 jeanshorts
March 03 2010, 03:48PM
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I don't like losing Lubo whatsoever, but the sheer madness of the Sutters has helped brighten my day.

Seriously what is going on down there???? They've made it pretty clear that they LOVE defensemen and hate draft picks. And they also hate making the playoffs.

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#27 Heavyd
March 03 2010, 03:49PM
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@Wanye

Why fill holes for 20 games?

I hope that in the offseason we will start seeing the Oilers fill those certain holes.

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#28 Tracie
March 03 2010, 03:54PM
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Wanye,

It's too bad I can't give you props for your article b/c this is exactly what I'm thinking as well!

We are all going on the HOPE that Tambellini has a plan but really, has he ever shown that he has a plan? I mean if we had Yzerman as our GM, I would KNOW he has a plan...But it doesn't seem like Tambo does!

You can't tell me that we couldn't have traded one of our smallish forwards, Cogs was a big name this year, so was Comrie, O'Sullivan, etc...we couldn't trade any of them??? If their names were being thrown around it means they were talked about right? Then was Tambo asking too much? I mean, Cogs is the only guy on that list that we should get a player back for, but we could've gotten a draft pick for O'sullivan and Comrie couldn't we? Why did we not get rid of our surplus to try to fill our holes???

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#29 Ethan
March 03 2010, 03:55PM
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I tried to find information on JUNK on the Oilers website, I can't find anything on him.

Can somebody tell me if he is any good?

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#30 The Towel Boy
March 03 2010, 03:58PM
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Chris. wrote:

I would rather have Visnovsky than an extra 1.6 million in cap space.

But what if that 6th rounder turns into a Pavel Datsyuk?!?

*hopes 6th round pick turns out to be rad*

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#31 Zamboni Driver
March 03 2010, 04:15PM
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David S wrote:

Stauffer was explaining it as cap savings, younger guy and bigger (and theoretically tougher). Although he could just as easily be, and probably was reading the Oilers press release.

Just think. Every team we meet until the end of the year is going to look like the Harlem Globetrotters. We'll see more goals in 20 games than we will have seen for the balance of the season. If we ignore which team scores them, it should make for some exciting hockey.

Winning of course will be something our dads will have to tell us about, you know, in the "olden days".

...and probably was reading the Oilers press release.

Change "was reading" to wrote.

His participation on the radio was sad sad sad.

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#32 Word
March 03 2010, 04:15PM
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I wonder if this is supposed to be some kind of terrorist hostage style posturing by Katz?

"Until the City of Edmonton buys us a new arena, I will continue to order my minions to sabotage the team... Mr. Tambellini, trade Hemsky for Wade Redden.... now."

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#34 Matt Henderson
March 03 2010, 04:20PM
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In Hall We Trust wrote:

It's called tanking and ensuring we see Taylor Hall in Oiler silks come June.

Or Seguin, I'm not sure who is better. A lot of people say its pretty even and the Oilers need a superstar Centre.

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#35 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
March 03 2010, 04:21PM
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Mur wrote:

What a garbage article! Maybe Oilers Nation could trade Wanye!!!!!!!!!!

For whom - RossCreek?

...and you thought the Visnovsky trade was bad!

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#36 jeanshorts
March 03 2010, 04:23PM
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Wanye wrote:

I wasn't suggesting filling holes for 20 games only.

I was hoping that they could move some of the higher priced assets for some of the cheap role players we need so badly.

These problems are only going to be worse after a summer of being turned down by free agents from near and far.

Thankfully though, instead of having free agents turn our team down, they'll must likely be completely ignored as Tambo and Lowe spend their entire summer trying to woo Peter Bondra out of retirement.

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#38 Westcoastoil
March 03 2010, 04:24PM
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Everyone should be simultaneously logging into SportsAction right now. Whatever the over/under is for the Chicago game it's too low.

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#39 Petr's Jofa
March 03 2010, 04:26PM
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I'm confused. If this team is committed to a proper rebuild why do we need all this cap space for next season?

Or does proper rebuild it mean showing up on some UFAs door step again next summer with a big check and a fancy video about Edmonton?

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#40 BUCK75
March 03 2010, 04:28PM
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Westcoastoil wrote:

Everyone should be simultaneously logging into SportsAction right now. Whatever the over/under is for the Chicago game it's too low.

5.5

*calls bank to refinance house*

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#41 Racki
March 03 2010, 04:33PM
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Petr's Jofa wrote:

I'm confused. If this team is committed to a proper rebuild why do we need all this cap space for next season?

Or does proper rebuild it mean showing up on some UFAs door step again next summer with a big check and a fancy video about Edmonton?

Quite a few RFAs this year, including the big ones.. Gagner, Cogliano, Brule, to name a few...

So having that cash is good. Plus, why spend money to suck? :)

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#42 Red Deerian Convert
March 03 2010, 04:44PM
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In Hall We Trust wrote:

Ok im not sure why everybody is in panic mode. The sky is not falling !!!

1) Tambo got us a depth player who can play physical in Ryan Jones. Everybody complains this team is far too soft.

2) Tambo got rid of the turnover machine known as Grebeshkov (Garbagekov).

3) We dumped a bad contract in Lubo (33 with 3 more seasons left on his contract)and added a younger more physical d-man in Ryan Whitney (yeah he makes 4 million per but Zidlicky just got 4 million per contract so is it that bad?)

4) We cut more cap in Steve Staios (seriously this isnt a bad move)

Way to be positive... props

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#43 Petr's Jofa
March 03 2010, 05:37PM
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Racki wrote:

Quite a few RFAs this year, including the big ones.. Gagner, Cogliano, Brule, to name a few...

So having that cash is good. Plus, why spend money to suck? :)

Yes there are RFAs to resign, but there are also players that can be bought out and contract that will expire. I don't understand why you give up a quality player like Visnosky unless you clearly win the trade.

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#44 RossCreekNation
March 03 2010, 05:39PM
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Kinda shocked Ethan Moreau wasn't moved. Even for a 7th round pick. Did Tambellini get greedy and try to get to much or was no one willing to take him for a 7th? I bet they got greedy.

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#45 Crooked
March 03 2010, 05:43PM
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Tambellini was going to face harsh criticism regardless of what moves he made. He could have gotten more for Grebs and Visnovsky, but it doesn't seem like the other teams were offering much, based on the trades made throughout the NHL at the deadline this season. I don't like moving Visnovsky, but it's clear with a rebuild taking place he wasn't in the team's plans moving forward. Best of luck to him.

Regardless, I'm glad Grebs and Staios are gone. They contributed pretty well in the past, but this year has been a disaster for both of them. Hopefully they do well with their new teams.

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#46 Ender
March 03 2010, 05:47PM
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@Crooked

Pardon me, did you just say you hope Staios does well with his new team? Blasphemy!!!

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#47 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 03 2010, 05:48PM
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Ender wrote:

I needed time to process. I’ve processed now. Here are the three reasons why the Whitney/Vishnovsky trade absolutely stinks:

1) As Rick pointed out, Whitney and Grebeshkov are very similar players. I spent some time following up on their stats; their scoring rates are almost identical and the slightly better +/- from Whitney is offset by Grebs slightly younger age and slightly higher goal-scoring ability. Add to this the fact that Whitney got these numbers playing for the Ducks while Grebs got his playing for the Oilers, and Grebs actually comes out looking (to me) like the better player. (I know. It shocked me too. Sorry, Wanye.) Oh, and here’s the kicker: Grebs was doing it for about $1M less per year. Where are we going with this? (Secondrounder in / Grebs out) + (Grebsclone in / Visnovsky out) ≈ (Secondrounder in / Visnovsky out) And that makes me sick. The savings for Vis/Whitney are eaten up by the price increase on Whitney/Grebs, so salary is a wash and it ends up to be dumping Visnovsky for a pick.

2) In case you’re curious about actual salary, Visnovsky’s deal was getting cheaper every year. Whitney’s is getting more expensive. I’m sure Katz doesn’t mind, right Tambo?

3) As Travis Dakin pointed out, Stoll+Greene for Vishnovsky for Whitney = Stoll+Greene for Whitney. Methink me no likey.

The more I think about it, the more I hate this deal. Spin it however you like; this is the day I’m officially onboard the FTNF bandwagon.

How do you come to the conclusion that Whitney and Grebs put up very similar numbers?

I'm not a huge Whitney fan, but he's alot better then Grebs. He's a Gilbert clone only better, Whitney's down years are Gilbert good years.

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#48 DonDon
March 03 2010, 05:54PM
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After coming off a real high from the excitement of the Vancouver 2010 Olympics, this is just appalling! It is not like the sky is falling, the sky has actually fallen and Oiler fans have been pancaked.

If Tambellini was trying to clear some cap space as well as rid the organization of bad contracts, why would he have claimed an AHL player off waivers and added Whitney's and Johnson's contracts? Is this rebuilding?

This is indeed the season from hell for the Oil. I guess we should have expected such when Tambellini wasted the summer passing up on opportunities to strengthen the team by picking up inexpensive players while pathetically chasing Heatley and then signing a 36-year old often injured Khabibullin to a 4-year contract.

When you think it can't get worse, it gets worse. The monkeys are actually running the zoo.

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#49 S.Tambellini
March 03 2010, 05:54PM
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Sheesh. You guys are never happy. Maybe next year I let Joey and Sparky steer the ship for the day.

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#50 Crooked
March 03 2010, 06:11PM
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@Petr's Jofa

When has Tambellini done anything as a GM that's made any sense?

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