POST GAME REPORT: Wings and Oilers

Wanye
March 30 2010 10:53PM

You know what? That wasn't a bad hockey game at all.

On a night that began with the Red Wings running the table against the home town heroes and racing out to a gentlemanly 4 nothing lead, the Copper and Blue managed to pull themselves right back to a tie game before a goal that was clearly a high stick was allowed with a little over a minute left and the Oilers were sent off the ice with a 5-4 loss.

This was actually one of the more entertaining Oilers games we have had the luxury of watching in some time and if the kids keep this up for the rest of the year we will be able to safely take our spot as unreasonable optimist for the entire offseason.

THREE STARS ACCORDING TO LORD WANYE VON GRETZ IV

1. Jeff Deslauriers

We suppose that a pair of goals from Gilbert might make a case for the long hairian one to be named first star but Deslauriers made several 5 alarm saves when the game seemed out of reach. 40 saves against the Wings only to lose on that goal? Come on.

2. Tom Gilbert

Be still the beating hearts of tween Oilers fans from coast to coast! Tom Gilbert scored twice and was shown dripping with sweat wearing nothing but an Under Armour shirt on National Television! If that doesn't get you second star, nothing will.

3. Goal judges in Toronto

We don't know how a call eminating from the Penalty Box in Detroit, bound for NHL Referee Central Command in Toronto, was intercepted by Mike Babcock - but this is clearly what must have happened. In an era with freeze frame HD technology following the puck for 60 minutes, there is simply no excuse for a blown call of this magnitude.

Call us a pessimist but we don't think the Oilers are going to be able to make the playoffs this year as a result of that goal being allowed.

Still, good game though. Right?

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

Last place is a lock and an 18 year old boy is ALL OURS.

Hat tip to Gerald Ford for knocking a fellow Commander in Chief in such spectacular fashion.

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#51 The Goat - Team FIST
March 31 2010, 11:41AM
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Enough to make ya break and shake ya ass cause I create, rhymes good as a Tasty Cake, mix This style, I'm mastered in Ninja's catchin headaches, what? What? You need aspirin?

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#52 OilFan
March 31 2010, 11:54AM
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@Ducey

Omark IMO is trade bait. I think we all have to remember that Hall, Eberle and MPS have yet to play in the NHL. They all have a great chance and seem to be great players. Anyone remember Rob Schremp ? I thought he was going to be the next great Oiler. These players are all prospects nothing more yet

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#53 Jason Gregor
March 31 2010, 11:57AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Ya, if their was every a year to have Edmonton representation this would be it.

I'd drop some $$ to see Gregor go and feed us updates (though I'd prefer if 1260 bucked up and sent him)

Don't worry I will be in LA for the draft....

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#54 VK63
March 31 2010, 12:28PM
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Whichever kid it is.. they best have thick skin, poor hearing, impeccable work ethic, intensity, leadership, finish, vision, toughness, determination, marketability, speed, finesse, explosiveness, game break ability and total dedication to winning. (etc. etc. etc.)

They have that right?

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#55 LoDog
March 31 2010, 12:34PM
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@Jason Gregor

Super cool it is going to seem like forever until the draft comes.

I caught a bit of 1260 this morning and I don't know the context of what the hosts were saying as I turned on the radio halfway through their conversation but I kind of like the idea.

Which was.... The Oilers trade their first pick + whatever else it takes to Pitt for Malkin.

Kind of makes sense to me as Pit needs better wingers and the Oilers get a proven top player.

I am not sold on either Tyler or Taylor. Why do they have so few points? I mean Schremp had 160 in his draft year, Kane had like 170. These guys have 106?

Not saying it would or could happen but would The Nation be happy or angry at such a deal?

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#56 yegCopywriter
March 31 2010, 12:48PM
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@LoDog

While I'm sure Malkin is better than Hall or Seguin will ever be, we'd only have him for 4 seasons. Even with him on the team, we won't be a contender for at least 3 years. Plus, his salary will hurt our ability to make smart signings to help create a well rounded team - and we'd need to give them a top-level roster player and other prospects/picks on top of our first round pick to ever make it happen. Doesn't sound like a good idea for a rebuilding team.

If we were about to contend, I'd say yes. Since we're not, I say no. Not that the Pens are likely listening to offers anyway.

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#57 Tracie
March 31 2010, 12:53PM
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Just a thought, but with both Penner and Gagner out for a bit, do we call up Eberle? 8 pts in 6 games so far...

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#58 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
March 31 2010, 12:55PM
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LoDog wrote:

Super cool it is going to seem like forever until the draft comes.

I caught a bit of 1260 this morning and I don't know the context of what the hosts were saying as I turned on the radio halfway through their conversation but I kind of like the idea.

Which was.... The Oilers trade their first pick + whatever else it takes to Pitt for Malkin.

Kind of makes sense to me as Pit needs better wingers and the Oilers get a proven top player.

I am not sold on either Tyler or Taylor. Why do they have so few points? I mean Schremp had 160 in his draft year, Kane had like 170. These guys have 106?

Not saying it would or could happen but would The Nation be happy or angry at such a deal?

it was talked about in a sarcastic tone. someone (a fan)apparently suggested it to Chase over the weekend.

as yourself, why oh why oh why, would pittsburgh trade one of the top 5 proven players in the league for a pick that might bust?

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#59 Dan the Man
March 31 2010, 12:59PM
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@LoDog

Schremp had 69 points in his draft year, his best year in Jr hockey was as a 20 year old when he finished with 145 points.

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#60 Crash
March 31 2010, 01:01PM
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Ducey wrote:

Awh, I was hoping to see Willis do the game recap so he could explain how Chorney got a +2 last night yet still played terrible.

I have liked Chorney's game lately. He has been iniating contact and has really been really moving up into the play. He has a long ways to go, but you can see why the org. likes him.

As for Comrie, we need to resign him? Why? Is this part of a plan to finish last next year? He is about a 35 point guy now assuming he can play a full season (which he has not done for a while), he has no more up side, is not going to be part of the future, is small, rarely plays more than 15 minutes a night, and has been floating for weeks now.

He is good at making nice little one touch passes and will fight another smurf 3 times a year but I don't see how he fits with Gagner, Brule, Cogs, Hall, Eberle, MPS, Penner, Horcoff, Omark all fighting for top 6. I don't see him bringing anything more than Potulny, or Pouliot (who is really coming on).

Maybe he is a tad better than O'Sullivan or Nilsson but they are signed next year. Is he so good you should buy out these guys to keep him?

I like him and hope he gets an NHL job and has success, but he is not a fit on this team.

I totally agree with you here...alot of people complain about the size of our team and that we don't have any toughness or mean guys and then I see many wanting to resign Comrie and resign Pisani at a cheaper contract and keep Potulny, etc.

I don't think there's much of a chance at all that Eberle spends much time back in the AHL next year if any at all and it's pretty much a given that either Seguin or Hall will be here as well.

I will say I hope like hell that Horcoff is NOT in the mix for the top six next year...accept the fact that he is a 5.5mil cap hit make him the checking line center and stop force feeding him to us in a top six role and stop worrying about how much he's getting paid.

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#61 DK0
March 31 2010, 01:01PM
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@OilFan

here's your previous link, but minus the being broken ;)

http://etownsgreatest.blogspot.com/2010/03/draft-dreams-case-for-taylor-hall.html

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#62 Crash
March 31 2010, 01:14PM
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DK0 wrote:

here's your previous link, but minus the being broken ;)

http://etownsgreatest.blogspot.com/2010/03/draft-dreams-case-for-taylor-hall.html

Read the story and while I was already sold on Hall this article completely confirmed it for me...Hall is the number one pick.

I already knew about the consistency and agree on the point, what if this year by Seguin is an aberration and not the norm. Also the stuff about showing up when it counts and having a history of it.

Also that he was moved to LW just at the junior age...I'm thinking he can play center if need be. That he also engages physically while Seguin doesn't really makes it a slam dunk IMO.

Take Hall :)

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#63 Dan the Man
March 31 2010, 01:22PM
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I'm leaning towards Seguin but thankfully I don't have to make the choice.

I do have complete faith that Stu Macgregor will choose the right player.

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#64 Crash
March 31 2010, 01:25PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

I'm leaning towards Seguin but thankfully I don't have to make the choice.

I do have complete faith that Stu Macgregor will choose the right player.

Well more than likely we'll lose the top spot in the lottery just to cap off the perfect season and we'll get whichever of the two is left in which case I'm becoming more and more certain it then would be Seguin.

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#65 Archaeologuy
March 31 2010, 01:28PM
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@Crash

Well Seguin is the better Goal scorer so I'd be happy with that :P

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#66 Archaeologuy
March 31 2010, 01:29PM
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And dont get me started on Percentage of Team Offence :)

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#67 Dan the Man
March 31 2010, 01:36PM
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Crash wrote:

Well more than likely we'll lose the top spot in the lottery just to cap off the perfect season and we'll get whichever of the two is left in which case I'm becoming more and more certain it then would be Seguin.

Yeah odds are that we won't retain the top pick so there is a better chance that we pick 2nd. (48.2 % chance of retaining the pick vs. 51.8% chance of moving to 2nd)

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#68 Crash
March 31 2010, 01:39PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Well Seguin is the better Goal scorer so I'd be happy with that :P

I won't get you started on the % of team offense but I will say that just because Seguin is having one season with more goals than Hall doesn't make him a better goal scorer...and if he doesn't engage physically his chances of scoring more goals than Hall at the NHL level are reduced IMO.

I just don't understand how everyone gets caught up in this one season that Seguin is having and all of a sudden they want him over the guy who has been consistent and has shown to be a go to guy at crunch time over and over.

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#69 Sammy D
March 31 2010, 01:43PM
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Ender wrote:

The thing is, even if we have the pick locked up, the player we take isn't a lock until we actually call the name from the podium. Not that I don't trust Tambi or anything; it's just that I don't trust Tambi.

"With the first overall pick in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft, the Edmonton Oilers are proud to select, from the Edmonton Oil Kings, defenseman Mark Pysyk."

That thump you just heard was Mr. and Mrs. Pysyk both dropping over from hearing such an announcement...

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#70 Archaeologuy
March 31 2010, 01:47PM
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@Crash

There is definitely something to be said for consistency. That being said, I dont think too many people believe Seguin is a flash in the pan.

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#71 Crash
March 31 2010, 01:49PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

There is definitely something to be said for consistency. That being said, I dont think too many people believe Seguin is a flash in the pan.

Yes but did you read this:

http://etownsgreatest.blogspot.com/2010/03/draft-dreams-case-for-taylor-hall.html

It seems easy to me...but that's just me

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#72 Dan the Man
March 31 2010, 01:53PM
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Crash wrote:

Yes but did you read this:

http://etownsgreatest.blogspot.com/2010/03/draft-dreams-case-for-taylor-hall.html

It seems easy to me...but that's just me

I read that article but who says the writer has any credibility? I'm not saying he doesn't but what makes him an expert, what are his credentials?

If you go through the archives on that Blog they also have the opposite article making a case for Seguin and it is written by the same guy.

http://etownsgreatest.blogspot.com/2010/03/draft-dreams-part-2-case-for-tyler.html

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#73 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
March 31 2010, 02:04PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

I read that article but who says the writer has any credibility? I'm not saying he doesn't but what makes him an expert, what are his credentials?

If you go through the archives on that Blog they also have the opposite article making a case for Seguin and it is written by the same guy.

http://etownsgreatest.blogspot.com/2010/03/draft-dreams-part-2-case-for-tyler.html

generally, my rule of thumb is:

if it has .blogspot.com in it, skip it.

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#74 Crash
March 31 2010, 02:07PM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

generally, my rule of thumb is:

if it has .blogspot.com in it, skip it.

Good to know...

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#75 Crash
March 31 2010, 02:11PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

I read that article but who says the writer has any credibility? I'm not saying he doesn't but what makes him an expert, what are his credentials?

If you go through the archives on that Blog they also have the opposite article making a case for Seguin and it is written by the same guy.

http://etownsgreatest.blogspot.com/2010/03/draft-dreams-part-2-case-for-tyler.html

Good point but it's also the same kind of things that were being said by both the coaches of Windsor and Plymouth on Gregor's show...even Seguin's coach was hinting that Hall is the better player just by what he was saying.

I think we have our shot at a superstar with Hall and not so much with Seguin just based on all that has been said by numerous people and by what I've seen of the two of them.

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#76 Pajamah
March 31 2010, 02:12PM
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Crash wrote:

Good to know...

You'd already know that if you just read his blog

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#77 Dan the Man
March 31 2010, 02:15PM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

generally, my rule of thumb is:

if it has .blogspot.com in it, skip it.

Pretty good rule of thumb, there are a few exceptions (Coming down the pipe and Lowetide to name a couple) but in general I'd tend to agree.

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#78 Crash
March 31 2010, 02:17PM
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Pajamah wrote:

You'd already know that if you just read his blog

I just read the story using the link provided, I didn't read anything else in or around it..

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#79 Dan the Man
March 31 2010, 02:23PM
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Crash wrote:

Good point but it's also the same kind of things that were being said by both the coaches of Windsor and Plymouth on Gregor's show...even Seguin's coach was hinting that Hall is the better player just by what he was saying.

I think we have our shot at a superstar with Hall and not so much with Seguin just based on all that has been said by numerous people and by what I've seen of the two of them.

I'm not saying Seguin is the better player, I pretty much change my opinion daily on who I'd rather have. I just wouldn't let some random blog be the deciding factor for me.

The writer mentioned that Seguin doesn't engage physically and I've never read or heard that before from anyone else. So has this guy watched him play once, twice... twenty times?

Who knows, the comparables I've heard for Seguin most often are Sakic and Yzerman. I like the sound of that and like I said before, STU will make the right choice.

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#80 Archaeologuy
March 31 2010, 02:27PM
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@Crash

Yeah, after reading the two cases on that site, I'd say that even the author makes a better case for Seguin. Between the two he describes Seguin as having a more NHL ready game etc.

The guy isnt a pro scout. Stu will make the call and I'll believe him.

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#81 Pajamah
March 31 2010, 02:37PM
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Crash wrote:

I just read the story using the link provided, I didn't read anything else in or around it..

I was just messing with you

cableguy.blogspot doesn't exist

I think

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#82 Crash
March 31 2010, 02:41PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Yeah, after reading the two cases on that site, I'd say that even the author makes a better case for Seguin. Between the two he describes Seguin as having a more NHL ready game etc.

The guy isnt a pro scout. Stu will make the call and I'll believe him.

Hmmm, weird because all I've heard so far is the opposite...I think there was an article written by Gregor a few weeks back that had comments from both the Windsor and Plymouth coaches and even the Plymouth coach was saying Hall is more NHL ready...

Oh well, I guess we wait and see

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#83 Crash
March 31 2010, 02:43PM
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Pajamah wrote:

I was just messing with you

cableguy.blogspot doesn't exist

I think

No worries, I actually assumed you meant the blog that I read the story off of...wasn't even thinking you meant a fictional blog by cable guy :)

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#84 David S
March 31 2010, 02:45PM
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LoDog wrote:

Super cool it is going to seem like forever until the draft comes.

I caught a bit of 1260 this morning and I don't know the context of what the hosts were saying as I turned on the radio halfway through their conversation but I kind of like the idea.

Which was.... The Oilers trade their first pick + whatever else it takes to Pitt for Malkin.

Kind of makes sense to me as Pit needs better wingers and the Oilers get a proven top player.

I am not sold on either Tyler or Taylor. Why do they have so few points? I mean Schremp had 160 in his draft year, Kane had like 170. These guys have 106?

Not saying it would or could happen but would The Nation be happy or angry at such a deal?

http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

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#85 OilFan
March 31 2010, 02:52PM
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Thanks

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#86 Dan the Man
March 31 2010, 03:20PM
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Per Gregor

Charles Linglet is being recalled and will play Friday.

Eberle is not being recalled.

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#87 Archaeologuy
March 31 2010, 03:34PM
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@Dan the Man

His numbers look pretty solid. 75 games and an even plus/minus on a bad club, and he's their leading scorer. He probably deserves this call up.

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#88 Jamie B.
March 31 2010, 03:39PM
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I wanted to see Eberle too, but reading about Linglet I'm happy he gets his shot. Hopefully this helps them re-sign him for OKC, they need someone for the kids to play with.

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#89 Dan the Man
March 31 2010, 03:45PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

His numbers look pretty solid. 75 games and an even plus/minus on a bad club, and he's their leading scorer. He probably deserves this call up.

He's also 6'2" 215 so yeah I have no problem with the call up, he's put in his time in the AHL.

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#90 Archaeologuy
March 31 2010, 03:48PM
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@Jamie B.

I think because there are only a few games left his one year contract will be good for next season. I'm not certain of that though.

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#91 madjam
March 31 2010, 04:31PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

He's also 6'2" 215 so yeah I have no problem with the call up, he's put in his time in the AHL.

Was Linglet not our only representative at AHL all star game ? He looked pretty good there. Quinn made reference the other night that we better get it right - in reference to draft . I think we know he likes Hall from previous contacts with him . If Oilers get lottery win Hall will be our choice . If we lose lottery , then maybe Oilers might deal , but i doubt they would with Hall open to them . Just my opinion from reading between the lines of Quinn . Whether we are going to rebuild or retool may still be up in the air because of draft and how things play out at end of season . Quinn may be promoted , and Tams and others, beyond players , future may be clouded ? Maybe Quinn was hired not only to coach and assess players , but entire organization at the same time "in cognito " ? As for players that they may be let go or trade , that may be dependent on same criteria , unsure which way Oilers may go as yet .

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#92 Jamie B.
March 31 2010, 06:14PM
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madjam wrote:

Was Linglet not our only representative at AHL all star game ? He looked pretty good there. Quinn made reference the other night that we better get it right - in reference to draft . I think we know he likes Hall from previous contacts with him . If Oilers get lottery win Hall will be our choice . If we lose lottery , then maybe Oilers might deal , but i doubt they would with Hall open to them . Just my opinion from reading between the lines of Quinn . Whether we are going to rebuild or retool may still be up in the air because of draft and how things play out at end of season . Quinn may be promoted , and Tams and others, beyond players , future may be clouded ? Maybe Quinn was hired not only to coach and assess players , but entire organization at the same time "in cognito " ? As for players that they may be let go or trade , that may be dependent on same criteria , unsure which way Oilers may go as yet .

If the Oilers drafted a player based on the opinion of a coach who might not be here more than another year, then they're even dumber than most of us think.

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#93 third string plumber
March 31 2010, 08:30PM
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LoDog wrote:

Super cool it is going to seem like forever until the draft comes.

I caught a bit of 1260 this morning and I don't know the context of what the hosts were saying as I turned on the radio halfway through their conversation but I kind of like the idea.

Which was.... The Oilers trade their first pick + whatever else it takes to Pitt for Malkin.

Kind of makes sense to me as Pit needs better wingers and the Oilers get a proven top player.

I am not sold on either Tyler or Taylor. Why do they have so few points? I mean Schremp had 160 in his draft year, Kane had like 170. These guys have 106?

Not saying it would or could happen but would The Nation be happy or angry at such a deal?

Schremp had 69 points in his draft year

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