Big Sexy's big interview

Jason Gregor
April 12 2010 09:40AM

Calgary Flames v Edmonton Oilers

Take a deep breath Oilersnation... relax, inhale and look at how the Sheldon Souray trade request will impact the team. Souray told Mark Spector he wants out, and you shouldn’t be shocked by Souray’s request.

But why he wants out is the bigger issue.

Here’s what he said to Spector.

"I don’t talk to anyone (in management) and I don’t expect to when I check out of here. I don’t really need to talk to them. There isn’t anything to say.

"Management has soured on me, and I’ve soured on them," he continued. "The fans are great, they’ve accepted me here, I see the jerseys in the stands. I couldn’t have pictured a more opposite vision of what my experience here would be like. What the organization here would be like, overall."

"I feel now that, when I signed here, I probably was as blinded by their great past as (the Oilers) are," Souray said. "People will question me, that they overpaid me … that it was a bad decision to sign me. But I can tell you this: I turned down more money in other places."

"I got challenged by management on the very first day of my first training camp. The very first day," he said. "They said, ‘When are you going to play?’ I said, ‘I have a six month (shoulder) injury and I’m at five months.’ But I played.

"The Oilers always prided themselves in being a family. Whatever happened to that? I haven’t talked to (Tambellini) since mid-January."

Here we are a day after the season ended and the drama of the off-season will only intensify with Souray’s comments.

Steve Tambellini is not the best communicator to guys on his own management team, so I’m not stunned he hasn’t spoken with Souray, however, I doubt one phone call to see how he was doing was going to change Souray’s mind.

Souray was bang on when he said it was a mutual “souring” between him and management. Tambellini would have traded him at the deadline if he didn’t break his hand in a fight with Jarome Iginla.

Souray didn’t see eye-to-eye with Craig MacTavish or Kevin Lowe, but neither of those guys are in the same position when Souray signed.

I appreciate when a player speaks his mind, and Souray was never afraid to answer any question, but what is gained by demanding a trade today?

Souray has a no-movement clause until June 30th, so he controls where he gets dealt despite his public demand. Even once July 1st hits he and his agent still have some say, because they will undoubtedly tell teams where he wants to play. No team will trade for a $5.4 cap-hit player who doesn’t want to be in their organization.

So what was Souray’s motivation?

He wants the world to know he wasn’t treated fairly? That Tambellini didn’t check up on him? Or that the Oilers management team isn’t as professional as the New Jersey Devils or Montreal Canadiens?

The Devils traded him at the deadline in 2000 to Montreal, the year they won their 2nd Stanley Cup. The Habs didn’t re-sign after he scored 26 goals. Why?

I don’t see Souray’s demand as another low point for the organization, because they can’t get lower than 30th. Souray is not Chris Pronger. The Rake led the Oilers to game seven of the Stanley Cup finals, while the Oilers haven’t made the dance once in Souray’s three seasons.

It is clear that Souray was frustrated and annoyed with Tambellini and the Oilers and the last three years have been tough, but it hasn’t been any harder on him than other players and the fans that have loyally doled out thousands of dollars only to watch a below-average product for three years.

While Souray has a right to be annoyed he should look in the mirror and realize that he isn’t completely innocent either.

He was part of a leadership group that missed the playoffs three years running. He was in the room where harmony was questioned. He accuses Tambellini of not being “family oriented” yet the area he could control, the dressing room, was far from harmonious.

Both sides are to blame in this divorce, and I think both sides will be better off without one another moving forward. Now it is up to Tambellini to try and salvage something out of Souray’s tenure in Edmonton.

The most important off-season in Oiler history starts today, and it just got a bit more interesting with Souray’s comments.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#101 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
April 12 2010, 11:33AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Ya that's the kind of trade I'd be looking for to. Some other guys I think are plausible that I'd be happy to see Souray moved for:

Hainsy/Legwand/Hannan/Brewer/Liles/Handzus/Commodore/Jackman/Sarich/Oduya/Bryan Allen/Pahlson/Chris Clark/Kobasew

Baiscally if we can get 2/3 of younger/cheaper/less injury prone I'd call us a winner.

Handzus?

...awkward...

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#102 Ender
April 12 2010, 11:34AM
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Big name players demand trades fairly regularly. They do it because they know that it works. Souray isn't a rookie here. He knew what he was saying when he went on record; his agent knew it too. Souray was doing his best to get moved to another squad, and he needed to spin it somehow so that he didn’t come off as a spoiled brat. He picked the most obvious scapegoat that there was. Everyone is already less than sympathetic to Tambellini so it would seem to be a smart move to blame things on the guy people are already bitter at. People believe what they want to believe.

I'm not saying Tambellini shouldn't be fired. He should, and the reasons are plenty. I just wouldn't make too much out of Souray's allegations. They're pretty weak and Souray had his own agenda for saying what he did. If Oilers fans are going to take shots at management, they have much better ammunition than this.

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#104 dragon
April 12 2010, 11:36AM
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Petr's Jofa wrote:

Strudwick for Masterson? Edmonton didn't have anyone better? I would have thought Pisani's return and Penner's bounce back seasons were better than 7th D-man struggling to stay in the league so he can collect his $700,000 payday.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/edmonton-oilers/Strudwick+Oilers+Masterston+nominee/2790541/story.html

this could just be spot-on with 'company policy': we reward players who suck-it-up, and play through anything. 'we don'y care HOW they play'

in all fairness suggestions around bloggosphere peg Struds as quite a leader...

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#105 MattL
April 12 2010, 11:38AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

(Assistant) Captain in MTL.

Sweet, I just got a promotion to (Assistant to the Vice) President of my company! I'm a president!

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#106 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
April 12 2010, 11:38AM
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Ender wrote:

Big name players demand trades fairly regularly. They do it because they know that it works. Souray isn't a rookie here. He knew what he was saying when he went on record; his agent knew it too. Souray was doing his best to get moved to another squad, and he needed to spin it somehow so that he didn’t come off as a spoiled brat. He picked the most obvious scapegoat that there was. Everyone is already less than sympathetic to Tambellini so it would seem to be a smart move to blame things on the guy people are already bitter at. People believe what they want to believe.

I'm not saying Tambellini shouldn't be fired. He should, and the reasons are plenty. I just wouldn't make too much out of Souray's allegations. They're pretty weak and Souray had his own agenda for saying what he did. If Oilers fans are going to take shots at management, they have much better ammunition than this.

Ya I'd agree. As usualy we don't know the whole story and like you said, this is certainly something people want to believe.

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#107 BarryS
April 12 2010, 11:40AM
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@Archaeologuy

Guess what, they get paid play or not. If they players didn't want to play injured they could not have played. There is nothing the team can do, even with this weak players union, to force a player to play when he thinks he's to injured. They wanted to play so they did. That's one of the reassons pro players are pro players, they play when others would quit.

Horcoff didn't want to quit the season, he said so. Hemsky didn't want to quit, and Khabby didn't want to guit until it was totally inpossible to play and they also said so. Even the new Dman who is having surgery on his foot didn't want to quit before the season was over. No doubt Gagner is more injured than he let on but he wouldn't quit until he couldn't play any more, even at the cost of being demoted to the fourth line.

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#109 The Real Scuba Steve
April 12 2010, 11:40AM
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@BarryS

They are doing quite good on the business side for the Oilers? Gary Bettman said himself Edmonton is the smallest market in the NHL, go walk into a sports store and check out the Oil merchandise, over stocked and dirt cheap.

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#110 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
April 12 2010, 11:42AM
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MattL wrote:

Sweet, I just got a promotion to (Assistant to the Vice) President of my company! I'm a president!

To be fair, the 'A' stands for 'alternate'.

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#111 Petr's Jofa
April 12 2010, 11:44AM
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@dragon

I'm not questioning if Strudwick is a good leader or nice guy. I just thought that the Masterson was awarded to the player who overcame an obsticle.

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#112 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
April 12 2010, 11:45AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

They can't contact players who are under contract on other teams. That would be tampering.

Now, would they talk with an agent here and there, you betcha. I'm sure players have spoken to others teams while under contract, but no one would openly admit to it for fear of tampering.

I think the question is how often does Calgary talk to its injuried players not how often does Edmonton talk to Calgary's players. I could be wrong though.

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#113 swany
April 12 2010, 11:45AM
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Souray's comments sound like a guy that know's he's not in the future plans here anymore. He know's that the Oil would love to move him, he know's that after June 30th he has NO say in where he goes. I see this as a player lashing out on managment because he see's that they will wait till the June 30th deadline passes and trade him anywhere and he's pissed at managment for that. He wanted to PICK where he would go, and now he knows tambo might ship him to Atlanta. All these comments about Managment need to be taken in context, he has an agenda. Struds love it here and he is just as respected as Souray (maybe more) The article RB wrote about Gagner wanting to help the next young guys come here does that sound like a kid kicking to get out of here, or Cogs saying he didn't want to leave THIS ORGANIZATION after the Heatley crap. Face it folks Souray has an axe to grind because his no trade clause kicks out and he see that mamgment is playing hardball and waiting for it to expire so they can have 29 teams to offer him up to rather than his choices.

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#114 BarryS
April 12 2010, 11:46AM
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@The Real Scuba Steve

Smallest market does not mean smallest profit.

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#115 rubbertrout
April 12 2010, 11:46AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

I understand some backlash towards Souray, but given that Souray praised his teammates, the city and the fans, specifically targetting only management, I have one question for the wave of anti-Souray sentiment:

Do you really want to defend this management group?

This isn't Souray vs. the Oilers. This is Souray vs. the people who have made the Oilers the worst franchise in the NHL.

I rip the managment all the time. I just think that this is 44 trying to deflect from his real desire (ie to get out of here and onto a better team) by making the focus an already tarnished management group.

He makes himself the good guy ("I love the fans") and management into an even worse guy ("they make us play hurt").

Does anyone think there isn't an insurance policy on Horc's contract and that if they could have sat him because he was that injured they wouldn't have jumped at the chance?

Sexy is dead.

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#116 Archaeologuy
April 12 2010, 11:46AM
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@BarryS

You're unbelievable. If you think its ok to pressure people to work in unsafe conditions then there isnt anything to be said between us on this topic. Choosing to play and being told to play hurt are two different things. Pitkanen wasnt comfortable with it here, Souray wasnt comfortable with it here; Hemsky, Souray, Horcoff, Smid, and others have been injured long term because of it, but you're right, nothing's wrong with it.

They are pro players who play through all kinds of injuries, so imagine what it takes for them not to be comfortable playing.

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#117 RossCreekNation
April 12 2010, 11:46AM
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Petr's Jofa wrote:

I'm not questioning if Strudwick is a good leader or nice guy. I just thought that the Masterson was awarded to the player who overcame an obsticle.

He overcame lack of skill... right? LOLZ

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#118 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
April 12 2010, 11:46AM
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Petr's Jofa wrote:

I'm not questioning if Strudwick is a good leader or nice guy. I just thought that the Masterson was awarded to the player who overcame an obsticle.

He played injury free on an injury riddled team, isn't that enough?

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#119 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
April 12 2010, 11:49AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

They can't contact players who are under contract on other teams. That would be tampering.

Now, would they talk with an agent here and there, you betcha. I'm sure players have spoken to others teams while under contract, but no one would openly admit to it for fear of tampering.

Sorry Gregor, I worded that poorly. I actually meant:

How often is managment on other teams in contact with their own players.

ie is what Souray is complaining about (not hearing from managment) common around the league or is this something fairly unique to the Oilers?

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#120 Petr's Jofa
April 12 2010, 11:51AM
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@RossCreekNation

I wouldn't use the word overcame. Lack of skill is something he still has to deal with daily.

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#121 Skidplate
April 12 2010, 11:52AM
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Petr's Jofa wrote:

I wouldn't use the word overcame. Lack of skill is something he still has to deal with daily.

And by "productive" you mean what exactly?

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#122 rubbertrout
April 12 2010, 11:53AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

You're kidding right? Lots of people in management get in serious trouble when they are purposefully endangering and harassing their employees. There are safety codes and unions for a reason, it's to protect employees from being abused in cases like this.

I get the anger towards people who make lots of money in some respects, but youre talking about people's health and safety.

Safety Codes don't tend to apply to professional athletes. If the player has an issue with the team pushing him back he can grieve it through the NHLPA. It isn't like a player on a guaranteed contract has to make a WCB claim.

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#123 Petr's Jofa
April 12 2010, 11:53AM
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@ Skidplate

I tried doing the strike through of that last half a sentence but it didn't work. I deleted it before you replied.

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#124 Skidplate
April 12 2010, 11:54AM
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Petr's Jofa, did you just edit your comment? I am sure it said Strudwick was a productive member of the team.

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#125 Jonathan Willis
April 12 2010, 11:56AM
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Everyone is already less than sympathetic to Tambellini so it would seem to be a smart move to blame things on the guy people are already bitter at. People believe what they want to believe.

There's a lot to this statement.

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#126 BarryS
April 12 2010, 11:56AM
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And whose word do we have besides Souray's he was pressured to play hurt? One of the conditions of playing in Edmonton is the fans seem to expect players to play every game, hurt or not and then whine about their play when they don't play well.

Sourey is a big boy, if he can't stand up to management, if he actually would have had to, with a guaranteed contract in hand, then he shouldn't whine about it. Personally I would rather hurt players not play than hurt the team by playing, but there are two parts to a player playing after inury, the medical staff and the player. If the medical staff okays it, it is still up to the player. Now if the medical staff in incompetant, then that's another matter but Souray didn't call them out.

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#127 rubbertrout
April 12 2010, 11:56AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

*teehee*

Seriously though, I wouldn't be looking to add Eric Brewer to my team (not really a fan), but that suggestion was meant as the type of trade I expect to make. Souray's value was low and just plummeted. Your basically looking for a dance partner that has another bad contract they'd like to dump. If you can trade a problem with 2 years left for a problem with 1 year left, you do it. Especially since the new problem a) wouldn't necessarily be a problem here, and b) would be playing in a 'contract year'. It may not be Eric Brewer, but I suspect the return will resemble that type of deal.

Man Brewer would fit right in with the Flames D of Sarich (3.6 M) and Staios (2.7 M).

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#128 Rob...
April 12 2010, 11:58AM
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Hey Jason, any chance you can get someone from the WCB on your show? Regardless the level of sport, there's always a desire/pressure to play injured to help your team. Throw a paycheque into the mix, like the professional teams do, and it seems a little confusing as to what management should be allowing, nevermind demanding, from their players.

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#129 dragon
April 12 2010, 12:00PM
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Petr's Jofa wrote:

I'm not questioning if Strudwick is a good leader or nice guy. I just thought that the Masterson was awarded to the player who overcame an obsticle.

~ I guess the obstacle was his play, in this case ~

oh, I'm with you on this one...

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#130 rubbertrout
April 12 2010, 12:01PM
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Petr's Jofa wrote:

I'm not questioning if Strudwick is a good leader or nice guy. I just thought that the Masterson was awarded to the player who overcame an obsticle.

How about the fact that he is an NHL player with no discernable skills? Sounds like a movie of the week type obstacle to me.

EDIT: Damnit Dragon! One freaking minute you beat me by!

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#131 Beevbo
April 12 2010, 12:04PM
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I'm sure someone's already pointed this out, but it makes me wonder how much Horcoff has been pushed to play with an injured shoulder. In fact, I wonder how many other players may have been pushed. The Oilers have over 400 man games lost to injury, a peak in a number that has been increasing over the last four seasons.

I thought a long time ago Horcoff should be taken off the shelf until his shoulder is 100%. It makes no sense to have the guy you count on for faceoffs to have a shoulder injury.

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#132 Archaeologuy
April 12 2010, 12:05PM
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@rubbertrout

Support Tambellini and Lowe all you want. This team had over 500 man-games lost due to injury and someone from the inside is saying that management is pushing players to play hurt.

You guys can choose to write it off as prima-donna antics or whatever, but I wonder who the other players will believe.

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#133 Petr's Jofa
April 12 2010, 12:06PM
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@rubbertrout

I'm just waiting for the story to break that Strudwick has overcome white/black colour blindness. He's managed to play for 5 different NHL teams and never once was he able to see the puck.

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#134 Moop
April 12 2010, 12:06PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

To be fair, the 'A' stands for 'alternate'.

I think Montreal used to give the "C" to one of their alternate captains if the actual captain wasn't playing, too, so I think that might explain the whole "I was a captain" thing. They did it for Kovalev a while back when Koivu missed some time, so I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that the same thing happened with Souray at some point.

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#135 dragon
April 12 2010, 12:13PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

How about the fact that he is an NHL player with no discernable skills? Sounds like a movie of the week type obstacle to me.

EDIT: Damnit Dragon! One freaking minute you beat me by!

;-) enough damage done.

~ i'll go back to work now ~

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#136 BUCK75
April 12 2010, 12:13PM
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@Rob...

You can't be serious. The WCB in Alberta doesn't give people who are hurt any breaks plus I doubt that a NHL player would be happy with the 65K cap on earnings.

Comparing a guy who loses his hearing or loses a limb working in the real world to a hockey player who is complaining about being rushed back to work is a little out of context. ~I believe the guy who held the WCB hostage for a day was happy with how he was treated?

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#137 Hunter5
April 12 2010, 12:14PM
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You can point the fingers at the spoiled rich players all you want but this organization will keep getting it's balls kicked until they make changes with the management. At the end of the day to much negative and damaging comments have been publicly aired. The culture of this organization will only change when Lowe, Tambellini, Bucky, Pendergrast, etc... have no ties to the team.

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#138 rubbertrout
April 12 2010, 12:37PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Support Tambellini and Lowe all you want. This team had over 500 man-games lost due to injury and someone from the inside is saying that management is pushing players to play hurt.

You guys can choose to write it off as prima-donna antics or whatever, but I wonder who the other players will believe.

Tell me where I'm supporting Lowe or Tambellini? I've been a huge critic of their actions/inactions for quite some time. I've been saying that one or both of them should be fired for months now.

I'm not suggesting that the management have done anything close to what they should have or were supposed to on the hockey side of the equation.

I'm just a bit angered by the Souray love when it is obvious that he is making the management the focal point for his situation even though his own personal examples of them "making" him play hurt were 3 years ago and nary a word was said at the time.

It is obvious to me that Souray is taking advantage of the fact that the management of this team are public enemy number one to hide the real reason that he wants to jump ship (ie that the team stinks and won't be getting better any time soon).

I'm sure players from other teams will believe him and thereby set back the already poor impression Edmonton has as a good place to play even further.

That is exactly the opposite of being a team guy.

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#139 Chris.
April 12 2010, 12:37PM
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I think a lot of people (including Gregor) are missing the point.

It doesn't matter if Souray has been childish, or difficult, or is a high maintenance type player... Shouldn't it be a mandate for management to create the best possible atmosphere within the entire organization? It's not like the Oilers will never encounter another high maintenance type player.... IMO, The sheer number of player management relationships that have gone sour over the years is quite alarming.

P.S. If true, it's absolutely ridiculous that a player injured on the ice, could lay on a hospital bed with an IV, for weeks, without recieving any kind of visit or phone call from the boss. Shame on you Tambellini!

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#140 stackopucks
April 12 2010, 12:37PM
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swany wrote:

Souray's comments sound like a guy that know's he's not in the future plans here anymore. He know's that the Oil would love to move him, he know's that after June 30th he has NO say in where he goes. I see this as a player lashing out on managment because he see's that they will wait till the June 30th deadline passes and trade him anywhere and he's pissed at managment for that. He wanted to PICK where he would go, and now he knows tambo might ship him to Atlanta. All these comments about Managment need to be taken in context, he has an agenda. Struds love it here and he is just as respected as Souray (maybe more) The article RB wrote about Gagner wanting to help the next young guys come here does that sound like a kid kicking to get out of here, or Cogs saying he didn't want to leave THIS ORGANIZATION after the Heatley crap. Face it folks Souray has an axe to grind because his no trade clause kicks out and he see that mamgment is playing hardball and waiting for it to expire so they can have 29 teams to offer him up to rather than his choices.

You hit the nail on the head.

This is Souray looking out for number one. While there's probably a kernel of truth to what he's saying, the fact that he is going public with this now is simply to turn up the heat, and try to force Tambellini to move him sooner rather than later (after June 30). I bet Souray figures the Oil want to avoid this blowing up into Pronger-gate, and will be forced to trade him for less than they want from a team on his list.

I suspect the Oil will let him sit for the next 3 months until they have 29 other teams to talk to.

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#141 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
April 12 2010, 12:41PM
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Chris. wrote:

I think a lot of people (including Gregor) are missing the point.

It doesn't matter if Souray has been childish, or difficult, or is a high maintenance type player... Shouldn't it be a mandate for management to create the best possible atmosphere within the entire organization? It's not like the Oilers will never encounter another high maintenance type player.... IMO, The sheer number of player management relationships that have gone sour over the years is quite alarming.

P.S. If true, it's absolutely ridiculous that a player injured on the ice, could lay on a hospital bed with an IV, for weeks, without recieving any kind of visit or phone call from the boss. Shame on you Tambellini!

Do you think it's odd that both Lowe and Tambellini are pointed out?

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#142 Deep Oil
April 12 2010, 12:43PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

@ Reagan:

Remember last summer when Brownlee floated those rumours about Souray wanting to leave town? (He was criticized for those, btw.)

Is it plausible that Souray's been waiting on a trade for a season?

My Villeneuve sources floated this in that past that Big Sexy was not happy in Edmonton, and wanted out.... last March.

I believe my sources in Villeneuve were the closest bloodline you could get, and the criticism was over the top.

Trading an overpaid hockey player is the least of the concerns this owner has this month....

With Katz losing over $100 million in Ontario Generic Pharmaceutical profits, and the Oilers sucking the hind tit in the financial department, I am curious which new york banker is going to give Katz $100 million for his freebie arena that will depreciate the day it opens, while his $100 million development investment appreciates. Vancouver, Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal rinks were built with private money, no handouts. _______________________________________________ Article on Rexall losing $100 million in price gouging profits in Ontario

www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/drug-store-giants-take-on-ontario-over-move-to-cut-prescription-costs/article1527045/ _______________________________________________

Andy Giancamilli, chief executive officer of the Katz Group, which operates Rexall and Pharma Plus, said the government’s move verges on “reckless action in health care” and could force his company to slash $100-million in costs.

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#143 josh
April 12 2010, 12:44PM
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what a joke this guy is. No class at all I hope we dump him in tampa. People who are down on tamby are like every yank you figured obama would snap his fingers and fix the states.complains that he was pushed to play with an injury and then needlessly fights what a class act should have moved him for ribero when we had the chance

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#144 Archaeologuy
April 12 2010, 12:45PM
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@rubbertrout

But how can the Oilers expect anyone to be a "team guy" if this is how the players are treated?

He might not be being an Oiler-first guy right now, but if he's accurately describing the team policy with regards to injured players then what he's saying IS team first. Blowing the whistle on this crap can only help his (soon to be ex) teammates in the future.

I dont like that he has publicly demanded a trade, but if you get past that then the claims he's making are serious and have implications about why the culture of the team has died in recent seasons.

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#145 SirFozz
April 12 2010, 12:51PM
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Chris. wrote:

I think a lot of people (including Gregor) are missing the point.

It doesn't matter if Souray has been childish, or difficult, or is a high maintenance type player... Shouldn't it be a mandate for management to create the best possible atmosphere within the entire organization? It's not like the Oilers will never encounter another high maintenance type player.... IMO, The sheer number of player management relationships that have gone sour over the years is quite alarming.

P.S. If true, it's absolutely ridiculous that a player injured on the ice, could lay on a hospital bed with an IV, for weeks, without recieving any kind of visit or phone call from the boss. Shame on you Tambellini!

Agreed.

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#146 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
April 12 2010, 12:51PM
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Deep Oil wrote:

My Villeneuve sources floated this in that past that Big Sexy was not happy in Edmonton, and wanted out.... last March.

I believe my sources in Villeneuve were the closest bloodline you could get, and the criticism was over the top.

Trading an overpaid hockey player is the least of the concerns this owner has this month....

With Katz losing over $100 million in Ontario Generic Pharmaceutical profits, and the Oilers sucking the hind tit in the financial department, I am curious which new york banker is going to give Katz $100 million for his freebie arena that will depreciate the day it opens, while his $100 million development investment appreciates. Vancouver, Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal rinks were built with private money, no handouts. _______________________________________________ Article on Rexall losing $100 million in price gouging profits in Ontario

www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/drug-store-giants-take-on-ontario-over-move-to-cut-prescription-costs/article1527045/ _______________________________________________

Andy Giancamilli, chief executive officer of the Katz Group, which operates Rexall and Pharma Plus, said the government’s move verges on “reckless action in health care” and could force his company to slash $100-million in costs.

Still throwing out speculation to further your agenda eh.

Got any proof the team is "sucking the hind tit in the financial department"?

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#147 Chris.
April 12 2010, 12:55PM
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There are 800+ NHL players and not all of them are without ego.... Do we really want an entire team of beaten down dogs who will immediately fall into line with every single crack of the whip? This isn't the 60s. Players control their desitnation by the time they reach their prime playing years... if Tambellini and Lowe cannot foster or maintain positive relationships with their own players (even the difficult ones) then it is time for Katz to clean house.

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#148 Nick Dynasty
April 12 2010, 12:56PM
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I guess 44 is a cursed number in Oil Country. First the human rake and now Souray. You could put Rob Schremp in there too since he wore it when he first started with us.

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#149 swany
April 12 2010, 12:57PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

But how can the Oilers expect anyone to be a "team guy" if this is how the players are treated?

He might not be being an Oiler-first guy right now, but if he's accurately describing the team policy with regards to injured players then what he's saying IS team first. Blowing the whistle on this crap can only help his (soon to be ex) teammates in the future.

I dont like that he has publicly demanded a trade, but if you get past that then the claims he's making are serious and have implications about why the culture of the team has died in recent seasons.

This is one player, Gagner, Cogs, Hemmer have all stateed they like it here, Hemmer's shoulder was hurt and he played has he came out and said that the managment "made him play" NO. Look at the timming people, Souray's NTC is about to expirer now he knows that he will be moved and he has no control he's pissed off he thinks managment would do him a "favor" and move him to where he wanted to go, now he knows that's not the caes and he feels he's been treated "unfairly" look at me I'm a vet I need specail treatment, if that was the case 3 friggen years ago why not complain back then, why now it smells of sour grapes.

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#150 semi moronic
April 12 2010, 12:57PM
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Souray is a guy that will not be missed - except for his shot more than anything. He hasn't been a big-dominant player since he arrived. Granted, he has had his games, but on the whole he will not be missed. If the Oil can grab a depth forward of size (Handzus from LA) or a pest (Jussi Jokinen from Car) and a 2nd or 3rd draft pick...go for it. Frees up more salary.

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