Tambellini has his say... and, YES, Oilers pick first!!!

Robin Brownlee
April 13 2010 04:54PM

After taking two days to contemplate Sheldon Souray's public trade request and what can only be characterized as a scathing indictment of Edmonton Oilers management, GM Steve Tambellini had his say this afternoon.

Unavailable to media after Souray's inflammatory comments ran on Sportsnet.ca, Tambellini issued a statement via a news release at 4 p.m., saying very little and pre-empting his own availability with local media that's scheduled for Wednesday at 1 p.m. at Rexall Place.

As per the release:

“Sheldon’s comments are unfortunate and counterproductive, but we are going to manage through this in a responsible and professional manner.

"We understand Sheldon has had a tough year and he has a desire to play elsewhere. His additional comments regarding being 'forced to play' when injured are far more serious and my stance is that they are demonstrably untrue.”

Atta boy, Steve. You tell him.

THAT'S IT?

Given Souray's accusation the Oilers made him return from a shoulder injury before he was ready to play to start the 2007-08 season with a freshly inked $27-million contract in his hip pocket, you'd think that Tambellini might have fired back.

Considering Souray essentially called Tambellini a lousy communicator who never even bothered to talk to him while he was recovering from a broken hand this season, you'd think Tambellini might have served up something today that would disprove that. But no.

Perhaps a page from coach Pat Quinn, who offered this about Souray in his meeting with media this morning.

"It's been no secret here," Quinn said of Souray's discontent and desire to be traded. "He's made it clear for a long time.

"I'm one of those guys that if you don't want to play here, don't screw around. Get the hell out."

Added Quinn: "If you have one guy sitting over there who doesn't bloody well want to be here, how do you build trust? How do you have a team? You don't. Sheldon knows how I feel about that sort of thing."

UPDATE: OILERS PICK FIRST!!!!

As per Oilers news release:

The Oilers have been awarded the first overall selection in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft, being held in Los Angeles June 25-26, 2010.

The Oilers received the right to pick first overall when they won the NHL’s Draft Lottery, held Tuesday night in New York City.

“This is a significant moment for the organization and its an important part of the process moving forward. We have the first overall pick in this year’s draft,” Tambellini said. “This is a very exciting time for our organization and our fans. Securing the first overall draft selection tonight provides a tremendous opportunity for the Oilers."

The 2010 NHL Entry Draft will mark the first time in franchise history the Oilers will select first overall.

The Draft Lottery is a weighted lottery system to determine the order of selection for the first 14 picks of the NHL Entry Draft. It gives the teams that finish with the fewest points during the regular season the greatest chance of winning the Draft Lottery.

Only the 14 teams that do not qualify for the Stanley Cup Playoffs, or clubs that acquired those clubs’ first-round draft picks, participate in the drawing.

Fourteen balls, numbered 1 to 14, are placed in a lottery machine. The machine expels four balls, forming a series of numbers. The four-digit series resulting from the expulsion of the balls is matched against a probability chart that divides the possible combinations among the 14 participating clubs. The Lottery was incorporated in 1995 by the NHL.

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#101 Crash
April 13 2010, 07:28PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

You know what, I totally thought he was born and raised in Kingston. I had no idea he was actually from Calgary. All the more reason to dislike him!!!!

The way I see that is the Flames found many of their better players from guys who were Edmontonians and changed them and their families into Flamers...

So turn about is fair play...we draft a Calgary born guy and turn his family into Oiler fans along with landing a superstar :)

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#102 Quintana
April 13 2010, 07:30PM
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Lucic+2nd overall for Cogliano+1st overall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#103 Slenster
April 13 2010, 07:34PM
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Too bad Hall and Seguin are'nt twins! Then we could trade to get the first two picks to keep them on the same team. Then they would blossom into gifted talented players who elevate their team to a consistant showing into the post season. Oh and then one of them could win the Art Ross trophy! Huh... wait man i just woke up from a strange dream about Twins playing for the Canucks... what? Wait a minute This is real!!!! Oh now what's next? The Oilers are gonna be owned by a drug dealer and miss the playoff three years in a row after going to game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final.... Oh dear, I gotta go back to bed and dream about winning the lottery! Ah shoot the Oilers apperently just won a lottery!

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#104 MrCondor
April 13 2010, 07:35PM
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@Crash

1) Hall is 6-0, 185, great speed, great shot and plays in the tough areas. Nothing to complain about, but we already have a prospect in MPS that is 6-1, 200, great speed, great shot and plays in the tough areas

2) The 70%-30% in favor of Hall is from the 10 scouts that Bob Mackenzie talked to, not a poll of the entire league. ISS and NHL Central Scouting have Seguin at #1

3) Hall scored 0.70 goals per game. Seguin scored 0.76 on a much weaker team. In this past season, Seguin is a better goal scorer.

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#105 slenster
April 13 2010, 07:37PM
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Crash wrote:

The way I see that is the Flames found many of their better players from guys who were Edmontonians and changed them and their families into Flamers...

So turn about is fair play...we draft a Calgary born guy and turn his family into Oiler fans along with landing a superstar :)

I totally agree! Hey and let's get some E-town guys back home. Souray for Dionne P in Toronto! I'd love for him to come to Edmonton and beat the Sh*t out of Staios and Regher next year!

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#106 Aleslav Smidsky
April 13 2010, 07:45PM
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Crash wrote:

The way I see that is the Flames found many of their better players from guys who were Edmontonians and changed them and their families into Flamers...

So turn about is fair play...we draft a Calgary born guy and turn his family into Oiler fans along with landing a superstar :)

All we would get there is a bunch of hype and hope, no championships. We dont want better, we want the best.

Not to worry, the Oilganization* will deliver.

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#107 OilFan
April 13 2010, 07:45PM
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@Crash

WHo had more goals ??????

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#108 Crash
April 13 2010, 07:45PM
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MrCondor wrote:

1) Hall is 6-0, 185, great speed, great shot and plays in the tough areas. Nothing to complain about, but we already have a prospect in MPS that is 6-1, 200, great speed, great shot and plays in the tough areas

2) The 70%-30% in favor of Hall is from the 10 scouts that Bob Mackenzie talked to, not a poll of the entire league. ISS and NHL Central Scouting have Seguin at #1

3) Hall scored 0.70 goals per game. Seguin scored 0.76 on a much weaker team. In this past season, Seguin is a better goal scorer.

We sure could use some more guys that will play in the tough areas, not just one guy. It's been a big problem on this team for a long time and it has been pointed out by the current coaching staff and the past coaching staff.

It wasn't just the scouts that Bob talked to...Other analysts have found the same thing across the league.

I'll add you to the list of people who are judging this season alone as making Seguin a better goal scorer...but even looking at this season, the fact is that Hall played 6 less games in the regular season and has played one less game in the OHL playoffs than Seguin but he made up 6 games at the world junior championships....So on this entire season he has played one less game and has 3 more goals 56 to 53. But I'm not caught up in just this one season.

He also has 3 straight seasons of consistent production in the OHL to Seguin's 1 season. Plus Hall has shown consistently that he shows up when the games get bigger and they have more pressure.

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#109 Crash
April 13 2010, 07:47PM
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OilFan wrote:

WHo had more goals ??????

Hall had more goals this season in one less game and he's going to add to the total I suspect before this season ends.

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#110 OilFan
April 13 2010, 07:48PM
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Crash wrote:

We sure could use some more guys that will play in the tough areas, not just one guy. It's been a big problem on this team for a long time and it has been pointed out by the current coaching staff and the past coaching staff.

It wasn't just the scouts that Bob talked to...Other analysts have found the same thing across the league.

I'll add you to the list of people who are judging this season alone as making Seguin a better goal scorer...but even looking at this season, the fact is that Hall played 6 less games in the regular season and has played one less game in the OHL playoffs than Seguin but he made up 6 games at the world junior championships....So on this entire season he has played one less game and has 3 more goals 56 to 53. But I'm not caught up in just this one season.

He also has 3 straight seasons of consistent production in the OHL to Seguin's 1 season. Plus Hall has shown consistently that he shows up when the games get bigger and they have more pressure.

Very good point. I'm not sold on Seguin i like the idea of a true center. We do need a guy that plays like Hall so im going to pull my hair out now.

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#111 jeanshorts
April 13 2010, 07:49PM
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AAAAAAAnnndd it's already started.

I blame Crash and his unwavering love for that "Hall" kid, whoever that is.

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#112 OilFan
April 13 2010, 07:51PM
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I think Souray is going to be interviewed on 630ched. Any one know if thats true ? HELP HELP

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#113 Crash
April 13 2010, 07:52PM
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MrCondor wrote:

1) Hall is 6-0, 185, great speed, great shot and plays in the tough areas. Nothing to complain about, but we already have a prospect in MPS that is 6-1, 200, great speed, great shot and plays in the tough areas

2) The 70%-30% in favor of Hall is from the 10 scouts that Bob Mackenzie talked to, not a poll of the entire league. ISS and NHL Central Scouting have Seguin at #1

3) Hall scored 0.70 goals per game. Seguin scored 0.76 on a much weaker team. In this past season, Seguin is a better goal scorer.

Oops almost forgot to mention, lol...

What we really have lots of on this team already is guys who play soft....I'm not saying is soft but I suspect he plays a lot softer than Hall does given what the scouts are saying about both of their games.

So using your line...we already have tons of players who play soft and don't battle for pucks...we could use some of the other kind, especially when they also bring the skill of Hall.

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#114 Crash
April 13 2010, 07:53PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

AAAAAAAnnndd it's already started.

I blame Crash and his unwavering love for that "Hall" kid, whoever that is.

LOL, actually this started awhile ago...just ask Arch :)

But I'll accept the blame ;)

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#115 MrCondor
April 13 2010, 07:54PM
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Crash wrote:

Hall had more goals this season in one less game and he's going to add to the total I suspect before this season ends.

OHL.com - 09/10 Regular Season Stats

Hall: 57GP 40G 66A 106P 56PIM Seguin: 63GP 48G 58A 106P 54PIM

Hall has higher Points per game, but Seguin has higher Goals per game.

The regular season in the OHL is over, Hall will not be adding to those totals.

EDIT: It should also be noted that Hall has been playing on an excellent team since the beginning of his OHL career. Seguin has not been as fortunate. I'm not sure if points are the best way to judge their relative skill level.

I will admit though that Hall has proven to be a big game player on multiple occasions. Seguin is still unproven that way.

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#116 Pajamah
April 13 2010, 07:58PM
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I'm going against the grain

go with Hall because he's from Calgary

the Flamers have had 4-5 of their best players from here for how long, and how much has it pissed me off (oh right, lots)

let's just do it to spite those sister-loving freaks

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#117 Matt Henderson
April 13 2010, 07:59PM
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Crash wrote:

LOL, actually this started awhile ago...just ask Arch :)

But I'll accept the blame ;)

If the rumblings from RB and Stauffer are correct, I'd start warming up to Seguin if I were you.

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#118 Matt Henderson
April 13 2010, 08:02PM
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@Pajamah

I'd re-evaluate emulating the "success" of the Flames. Last I checked they've won next to nothing. Their model is uglier than Taylor Hall.

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#119 MrCondor
April 13 2010, 08:07PM
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To borrow from gretzky of the HockeyBuzz forums, our future lines are looking like this:

Penner Seguin Hemsky / Paajarvi Gagner Eberle

or

Hall Gagner Hemsky / Penner Brule Eberle

*Engage fist pump*

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#120 Pajamah
April 13 2010, 08:10PM
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Matt Henderson wrote:

I'd re-evaluate emulating the "success" of the Flames. Last I checked they've won next to nothing. Their model is uglier than Taylor Hall.

Hahahha, yeah, he's a walking allergic reaction

But for me, it's less about team success, more about pissing off Calgarians. If our best player is from Calgary, we can start to forget about the traitors playing down south

typing that does make me realize that it is flawed logic, but short of burning down the Saddledome, it's all I got

*looks around, all shifty like*

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#121 Crash
April 13 2010, 08:12PM
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MrCondor wrote:

OHL.com - 09/10 Regular Season Stats

Hall: 57GP 40G 66A 106P 56PIM Seguin: 63GP 48G 58A 106P 54PIM

Hall has higher Points per game, but Seguin has higher Goals per game.

The regular season in the OHL is over, Hall will not be adding to those totals.

EDIT: It should also be noted that Hall has been playing on an excellent team since the beginning of his OHL career. Seguin has not been as fortunate. I'm not sure if points are the best way to judge their relative skill level.

I will admit though that Hall has proven to be a big game player on multiple occasions. Seguin is still unproven that way.

I didn't say regular season, I said the whole hockey season...

You didn't factor in the 6 games Hall played at the world juniors or the 8 games he has played in the OHL playoffs and the 9 games that Tyler Seguin has played in the OHL playoffs. So yes Hall will likely be adding to his total for this season.

But for kicks here's some for you:

Hall: 3 OHL seasons Regular season 183GP 123G 280P - Playoffs 33GP so far 27G 58P

Seguin: 2 OHL seasons Regular season 124GP 69G 173P - Playoffs 20GP 10G 26P

Hall has both a higher goals and points per game and a longer history of consistency.

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#123 Matt Henderson
April 13 2010, 08:15PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Rumblings?

I'd suggest that unless Seguin runs away to join the circus as the bearded lady or slips in the shower and dislocates his spine between now and draft day, he's the guy.

I think RB is trying to tell us something, but I cant tell what it is...

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#124 Crash
April 13 2010, 08:18PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Rumblings?

I'd suggest that unless Seguin runs away to join the circus as the bearded lady or slips in the shower and dislocates his spine between now and draft day, he's the guy.

So you're now saying that you believe it's pretty much a given the Oilers are going with Seguin? Earlier you had reported that from what you were summizing that you figured the Oilers were leaning towards Hall...

Now I'm so confused :)

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#125 Crash
April 13 2010, 08:23PM
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Matt Henderson wrote:

If the rumblings from RB and Stauffer are correct, I'd start warming up to Seguin if I were you.

I'll warm up to Seguin when he arrives here until then I'm a Hall fan...

Just like RB has a feeling that Whitney will be a better d-man going forward than Visnovsky, I have the feeling that Hall will outshine Seguin...but if Seguin lands here I hope I'm wrong about it

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#126 MrCondor
April 13 2010, 08:24PM
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Crash wrote:

I didn't say regular season, I said the whole hockey season...

You didn't factor in the 6 games Hall played at the world juniors or the 8 games he has played in the OHL playoffs and the 9 games that Tyler Seguin has played in the OHL playoffs. So yes Hall will likely be adding to his total for this season.

But for kicks here's some for you:

Hall: 3 OHL seasons Regular season 183GP 123G 280P - Playoffs 33GP so far 27G 58P

Seguin: 2 OHL seasons Regular season 124GP 69G 173P - Playoffs 20GP 10G 26P

Hall has both a higher goals and points per game and a longer history of consistency.

I'll refer to my previous statement that points isn't the best way to judge these 2 due to the relative strength of their teams.

Interesting observation from the stats you posted though:

Hall's production increased from 1.53 Points per game in the regular season to 1.76 in the playoffs.

Seguin went from 1.39 in the regular season to 1.30 in the playoffs.

I'll give you this one. Hall can pick it up when the heat is on.

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#127 DangerMan
April 13 2010, 08:25PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Rumblings?

I'd suggest that unless Seguin runs away to join the circus as the bearded lady or slips in the shower and dislocates his spine between now and draft day, he's the guy.

With all due respect RB, I hope you are incorrect, otherwise I think I might go join the circus.

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#128 Reagan
April 13 2010, 08:25PM
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Trade Hemsky's and Souray's bag of bones for Bostons Second Pick!

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#129 dano
April 13 2010, 08:26PM
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it certainly is interesting. Looking at their strengths, Hall has the size, speed and shot we need.

But what gets my vote is that a way higher percentage of Seguins goals came at even strength on a worse team. I particularly like the argument about how a center can be more of an impact player then a winger.

The beauty of it is no pick is a bad pick as there are many holes that need filling on the team. In my opinion the higher priority would be to try to trade for a second first round pick.

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#130 Crash
April 13 2010, 08:29PM
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MrCondor wrote:

I'll refer to my previous statement that points isn't the best way to judge these 2 due to the relative strength of their teams.

Interesting observation from the stats you posted though:

Hall's production increased from 1.53 Points per game in the regular season to 1.76 in the playoffs.

Seguin went from 1.39 in the regular season to 1.30 in the playoffs.

I'll give you this one. Hall can pick it up when the heat is on.

Totally agree that it can't be measured in just points and numbers, there's so much more and maybe that has something to do with RB switching from figuring on Hall to figuring on Seguin now.

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#131 Shawner
April 13 2010, 08:33PM
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hey boys and girls either way they will get something for the future unless they fumble the pick and (dare i say it) trade it away, who knows what will happen on the 25th of june, and like i said either way they WILL get SOMETHING for the future

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#133 jake
April 13 2010, 08:35PM
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Just noticed the last canadian team to draft first overall was 1996 Ottawa. 13 straight picks to U.S. based clubs. Long time.

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#134 OilFan
April 13 2010, 08:41PM
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I think the Boston GM said they won't trade the 2nd pick and would only try to move up.

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#135 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
April 13 2010, 08:44PM
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Show yourself conspiricy theorists!

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#136 Bacon Nachos
April 13 2010, 08:46PM
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REMEMBER STEVE KELLY.

That is all I have to say. You never know with Oilers Management...

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#137 MrCondor
April 13 2010, 08:47PM
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Does anyone think we can move Sourey for a low first round or high second round pick?

I'm assume we'll have to receive some salary back, but as long as that new player is off the books in a couple of years, I say go for it.

Sourey to Colorado for Liles and a 2nd? Or at least something along those lines?

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#138 Matt Henderson
April 13 2010, 08:56PM
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Bacon Nachos wrote:

REMEMBER STEVE KELLY.

That is all I have to say. You never know with Oilers Management...

Even the Fans at the Draft that year were more competent than our Head Scout at the time. We have a much better group these days.

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#139 BarryS
April 13 2010, 09:06PM
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I suppose part of the choice will be made on how true the rumours and inferences that Mr. Hall's dad might be the second coming of Mr. Lindros, Eric's dad. I recall hearing an interview when Mr. Hall senior stated he hoped toronto (boston) would get the first pick and take his son. Just how serious he was, or how true his supposed attempts at influencing his son's current team, I do not know. Hopefully the Oilers do.

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#140 jake
April 13 2010, 09:09PM
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BarryS wrote:

I suppose part of the choice will be made on how true the rumours and inferences that Mr. Hall's dad might be the second coming of Mr. Lindros, Eric's dad. I recall hearing an interview when Mr. Hall senior stated he hoped toronto (boston) would get the first pick and take his son. Just how serious he was, or how true his supposed attempts at influencing his son's current team, I do not know. Hopefully the Oilers do.

From what many learned tonight, that (hope for Boston to pick his son) may have been because of Bobby Orr (Hall is #4) and not necessarily anti-Oiler comment, just speculation however.

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#141 Reagan
April 13 2010, 09:11PM
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Maybe his dad needs a little over inflated herbal magic to clear that big head of his.

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#142 DangerMan
April 13 2010, 09:13PM
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MrCondor wrote:

Does anyone think we can move Sourey for a low first round or high second round pick?

I'm assume we'll have to receive some salary back, but as long as that new player is off the books in a couple of years, I say go for it.

Sourey to Colorado for Liles and a 2nd? Or at least something along those lines?

I'd do Souray for Liles straight across. It might have a chance, I'm not entirely sure how much Colorado covets Liles these days. I think the Oilers could use a Dman like Liles going into next season.

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#143 SpotTheLoon
April 13 2010, 09:17PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Everyone please take a long, hard look at Taylor Hall. Is that really the face we want to be forever immortalized in bronze statue form outside of Daryl Katz's Super Arena®?

At least Seguin looks like an actual human being.

I swear that Hall reminds me of that little person you used to see running around on Monster Garage.

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#144 Jodes
April 13 2010, 09:21PM
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MrCondor wrote:

Does anyone think we can move Sourey for a low first round or high second round pick?

I'm assume we'll have to receive some salary back, but as long as that new player is off the books in a couple of years, I say go for it.

Sourey to Colorado for Liles and a 2nd? Or at least something along those lines?

You honestly think that a injury prone 34 year old D man who's a defensive liability most nights and is a 5.4 million dollar cap hit next season is going to get us anywhere near the 1st or 2nd rounds?

I thought maybe a 4-5 Dman, a 3rd or 4th rounder and another bad contract.. Now that Souray's been a flapping though, we'll be lucky to get anything for him.

Yet people still think we can trade him to Boston for their 2nd overall.. Man I'd like to see what colour the sky in their world is, because thats not going to happen, EVER.

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#145 Rusty Duggan
April 13 2010, 09:35PM
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Hey ROBIN, do you think the Oilers could move some players/anything to acquire the second pick from Boston? What do you think the Oilers are gonna do on draft day? Also, can Hall be converted to a center?

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#146 OilFan
April 13 2010, 09:36PM
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@Jodes

I agree. We will be lucky to trade him. Getting anything would almost be a bonus. I'm guessing a bad contact swap we may have to give up picks to get the trade to work. If we find a trade at all.

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#147 Rusty Duggan
April 13 2010, 09:36PM
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Hey ROBIN, do you think the Oilers could move some players/anything to acquire the second pick from Boston? What do you think the Oilers are gonna do on draft day, besides Seguin in the first round? Also, can Hall be converted to a center?

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#148 JaroslavPouzar
April 13 2010, 09:38PM
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Hall... More proven on a bigger stage... True Star potential, more marketable, a sit on the edge of your seat player. Maybe not the prettiest face, either was Messier. You don't have tyo be pretty to be the face of a franchise... Ask Ovechkin Who cares if he was a Flame fan... Ask, Jarome who he would rather have played for when he was drafted... Allegiences change with who signs your cheques. Seguin will probably be a big player but he's had one full great year in Jr.... Hall has excelled EVERY year and is more NHL ready. Watch the Oilers fleece everyone by selecting Thomas Tynan...

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#149 JaroslavPouzar
April 13 2010, 09:42PM
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BTW- trade Sour(grapes)ay to Dallas straight up for Ribeiro a legit 1st line center, then draft Hall.

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