The Summer of Steve & playoff picks

Jason Gregor
April 14 2010 12:47PM

Pittsburgh Penguins vs New York Rangers.

Here we sit for the 4th straight season, hours away from the opening of the playoffs and once again Edmontonians have to watch the Stanley Cup playoffs on TV. No live games in our city. No chance of “Shirts off for Horcoff” chants in the streets. No chance the boss allows you to show up late because of a series clinching victory the night before. No playoff games sucks, even for the media.

Covering the playoffs is akin to how the fans cheer during the playoffs. It is more intense, fun and exciting. Sure, the quotes can be more cliché than ever, but after one or two games a few players get a good hate on and the mental mind games begin.

The playoffs are like the Olympics, but longer, especially in a Canadian city when their team wins a few rounds. Only Vancouverites will have a chance to rekindle their Olympic spirit, because the Canadiens and Senators are big underdogs.

My buddy Ryan Lambert told me about Whatifsports.com and pointed out that Montreal, Ottawa, Boston, Philly, Detroit and Nashville have ZERO chance of winning the Cup.

“We simulated the entire playoff 2,001 times using the current season rosters and statistics. Home ice advantage is taken into account. Average wins and losses per series are indicated in the bracket.”

Keep in mind that through all of their calculations they didn’t produce one upset in the first round. LA has the best chance at an upset at 30.9% while Detroit, 26.9% and Colorado 23.9% are next.

Before I get to Sheldon Souray and Steve Tambellini’s upcoming press conference later today, here’s my picks for the first round.

SAN/COL

Everyone is scared of the Sharks and their inability to win in the playoffs, but the Avs are too young and the Sharks are flat out better. Joe Thornton, Dany Heatley, Patrick Marleau and Dan Boyle’s Olympic experience will lead this team past the Avs, and in fact, they will win the Cup this year. Sharks in five.

CHIC/NASH

I like Barry Trotz’ team, and if they were 5th or 6th I’d pick them to win a round, but the Hawks are just too deep. The Preds will continue their streak of never winning a playoff series, but they will give the Hawks a tough series. Hawks in six.

VAN/LA

I’m going with the Kings in an upset, although the Kings have 101 points compared to the Canucks’ 103 so is it really an upset? The Kings like to pressure the puck down low, and they have three solid lines, and the Canucks defence is their weakness. The Sedins have been unreal all year, but Michel Handzus is one of the best checking centres in the league. That will be a great match up with Handzus, Freddy Modin and Wayne Simmonds v. the Sedins and Burrows. Roberto Luongo has looked average down the stretch, but he still has a huge edge over Jonathon Quick. Kings in Seven.

PHO/DET

No team since the 1983-1985 Oilers has made it to the Cup finals three straight seasons and the Wings won’t end that streak. The Wings have been the best team since the Olympic break, 16-3-2, and they have way more playoff experience than the Desert Dogs. The Dogs were 13-5-1 after the Olympics, and they are the Rodney Dangerfield of the NHL; they get no respect. The Coyotes are relentless on their puck pursuit, and they will make life very difficult for the Wings’ defenders. Jimmy Howard is a rookie and Ilya Bryzgalov has lots to prove. The Coyotes have home ice, and they will use it to win in seven. Dogs in Seven.

WASH/MONT

This will be ugly. I don’t care how good Jaroslav Halak was in the Olympics and down the stretch for the Habs, he won’t post a 2.00 GAA this series, and the will need to if the Habs want to win. The Canadiens don’t have the firepower to keep up with the high-scoring Capitals, and the Habs’ defence isn’t big enough to slow down Ovechkin, Semin, Backstrom and the boys. Capitals in four.

NJ/PHILLY

I really want to pick the Flyers in this one. They won five of six in the regular season, but I don’t put much stock in that. They have to rely on Brian Boucher to win, and he’ll need to recapture the out-of-body experience he had back in 2003/2004 with the Coyotes when he posted five consecutive shutouts and didn’t allow a goal for 332:01. The Flyers have lots of talent up front and on the backend, and they will push the Devils. My gut tells me to pick the Flyers, but stupidly I will pick the Devils in six.

BUFF/BOS

Ryan Miller is good enough to beat the pop-gun offence of the Bruins. Only the Flames (204) scored fewer goals than the Bruins (206) and with Marc Savard out, I don’t see how the Bruins score enough to win. The Sabres have a great goalie, but they aren’t good enough to compete with the Pens or Capitals later on. Peter Chiarelli will be ecstatic drafting Taylor Hall this summer to improve their scoring next year. Sabres in six.

PITT/OTT

Similar to the Wings, I don’t see them making the Cup finals three years in a row, but they will get out of the first round. (Since my gut tells me Philly wins, the Pens will beat the Sabres in the 2nd round, but lose to the Caps in the finals, however I’m dumb and not picking that so the Pens will lose in the 2nd round). I’m guessing Ottawa would have preferred if the Pens won the Atlantic, so they could have faced the Devils instead, and for the first time since 1996, Canada won’t have a team in the 2nd round of the playoffs. (Montreal, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Toronto and Calgary all lost in the first round that year). Pens in Six.

TAMBO SPEAKS

Steve Tambellini has a press conference at 1 p.m. today, where he will address the season, Sheldon Souray and the first overall pick. Yesterday was a monumental day in Oiler history, when it was confirmed they will have the first overall selection in the draft, for the first time in franchise history.

This story should be bigger, but Souray’s comments, and Tambellini’s insistence to wait two days to respond to them, means it will Taylor or Tyler talk will be over-shadowed.

Tambellini and the Oilers should have had an end-of-the-season presser planned on Monday. He could have wrapped up the season, and then luckily he would have been able to address Souray’s comments Monday. This would have allowed the Oilers to focus on the first pick, and just how big of a deal it truly is.

Instead today we will hear what Tambellini’s plans are for the summer, and his thoughts on Souray’s statement.

Last year, Tambellini showed passion and fire when he announced that Craig MacTavish would not be returning, but that the players were just as responsible. He then vowed to make changes. No major changes occurred, and he chose to promote from within with J.F Jacques, Ryan Stone and Gilbert Brule.

Today we should hear what his plan is for the off-season. I’ve said it many times before that this is the most important off-season in Oiler history, and Tambellini’s tenure with the Oilers will ultimately be decided this summer.

He’s in a tough spot, with so many underachievers and he is still trying to clean up Kevin Lowe’s mess, but he knew that when he took the job, and now he needs to make the right moves to turn this organization around.

He can’t trade, buyout or not qualify any players today, but he needs to make it clear that he has a plan moving forward. Being cryptic and not straight forward is unacceptable now.

He needs to show Oiler fans that he is a better communicator than Souray suggested he is.

The SUMMER OF STEVE begins today.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#101 jeanshorts
April 14 2010, 02:24PM
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BUCK75 wrote:

It might speak to how hard it is to trade his salary too. Maybe it will be easier with only 2 years left instead of 3? Kind of sounds like he is moving either way now.

No doubt. Who would have thought that not a lot of teams would be willing to take on an injury prone, 33 year old defenseman with a large contract, who a lot of people feel is one dimensional.

But I'm sure there's a ton of behind the scenes drama that we'll probably never know about. This whole thing is a horrible mess, and the sooner we can be done with it the better.

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#102 BarryS
April 14 2010, 02:25PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

That's kind of what I figured this all was about. He's wanted out for a while and since diplomacy wasn't working he's turned up the heat.

So admitting to yourself you might not have any value injured or playing terrible might make it harder?

Me I would work harder and save as much of my remaining contract as I could in case it is my last contract.

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#103 baggedmilk
April 14 2010, 02:26PM
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Little do most of you know, but Jeanshorts has a picture of Brownlee hanging above his bead. He years for him. LOVES the Brownlee.

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#104 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
April 14 2010, 02:27PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

So he wants out in the second year of a long term deal (that he was all too happy to sign) at a point in time when the team was in the thick of it to make a push to the playoffs?

What a prick.

Who's to say that Tambi didn't plan to trade him earlier this year? He might have been able to if 44 hadn't been so injured. By the time he was back his stats were so poor that there is no way any value would have been coming back.

EDIT: I hope that isn't construed as me supporting Tambo. I'm still focusing on 44's sucking of a big fat c*&k

No doubt, he played what 100 games and then asked to be traded? Last years team was right in the hunt to the last minute.

I'd bet he was on his way out the door at the deadline before he hurt his hand. Good on you Souray, your paying the price for that fight you just had to get in.

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#105 BarryS
April 14 2010, 02:27PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

No doubt. Who would have thought that not a lot of teams would be willing to take on an injury prone, 33 year old defenseman with a large contract, who a lot of people feel is one dimensional.

But I'm sure there's a ton of behind the scenes drama that we'll probably never know about. This whole thing is a horrible mess, and the sooner we can be done with it the better.

Like all divorces it takes longer and costs more than you expect.

Two years and counting.

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#106 Scott in Grande Prairie
April 14 2010, 02:29PM
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@BarryS

Great point, BarryS.

One realization I made a day or so ago is that I have absolutely NO idea what an "acceptable" or "baseline" amount of contact between an (injured) player and the team's GM. No friggin' idea.

That's why I'm so hesitant to buy into Souray's story. For all I know, GMs and players schedule their meetings with a calendar, not a clock.

I mean, think about it: Souray's been hurt for a couple of months. Did he travel with the team? My guess is no. Did he "hang out" at Rexall and run into Tambo in the coffee room or the vending machines or out back by the smoke doors?

Do GMs send flowers to injured players in the hospital? Are they expected to send "thinking-of-you e-mails/text messages? How does it work?

Quinn said a lot of interesting things yesterday but one of the more interesting points was the fact that everyone in the dressing room had known that Souray had wanted out for a while. That "list-of-teams" favour Souray unveiled right before the trade deadline was a thinly-masked straight-up trade demand.

Well, if that's the case, there's not really any need to talk to the player, right? At that point, Souray's agent becomes the go-between, n'est-ce pas?

That's crazy thing about all this, he-said, they-said speculation - none of this back-and-forth communication is anywhere near as nuanced as you might think.

If Souray's too injured to come back for the end of the season and he doesn't want to come back healthy in the fall, then I'd say that there's no need for communication between GM and player. The message has been sent. Tambo's next phone call is to Souray's agent, telling him where he's been traded.

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#107 MattL
April 14 2010, 02:36PM
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Chaz wrote:

That's because he only knows how to ask Leading questions. IE: He answers his own questions by leading the interviewee to the answer he wants, and expects to hear. Let your subject answer their own questions Dan. We don't care what you think!

I actually think a lot of media types are guilty of this. They subconsciously are looking for validations of their own opinions when asking questions.

It's not subconscious, it's called writing a story and getting a quote for your story.

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#108 The Real Scuba Steve
April 14 2010, 02:39PM
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BarryS wrote:

So admitting to yourself you might not have any value injured or playing terrible might make it harder?

Me I would work harder and save as much of my remaining contract as I could in case it is my last contract.

Professional sports and whatever you do is non-comparable.

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#109 Senator Theo
April 14 2010, 02:39PM
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BarryS wrote:

You expect a car company to tell their plans for a new model before they release it for sale? Not likely. So why expect Tambo to say who'se coming or going before their gone?

Why would I expect a hockey team to be run like a car company?

Would I expect a car company to sell tickets for people to watch assembly too?

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#110 David S
April 14 2010, 02:40PM
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BarryS wrote:

The world of sports and the world of journalism are not particularly noted for intellectual brilliance. So when you get hold of one more diligent and smarter than most, you treasure him. I'll read Robin over most who claim to be journalists, or even those who don't claim to be. Not saying I believe all his opinions, but I read them and give them consideration. That's about all a writer can ask of a reader.

Agreed. Although I'd have to give Gregor his due as well. Between the two of them, we have access to some of the only guys around here that aren't bought and paid for. Refreshing.

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#111 SirFozz
April 14 2010, 02:45PM
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Senator Theo wrote:

Why would I expect a hockey team to be run like a car company?

Would I expect a car company to sell tickets for people to watch assembly too?

What kind of car?

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#112 Senator Theo
April 14 2010, 02:48PM
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SirFozz wrote:

What kind of car?

The Oilers equivilent would be a Lada, I think.

I still have plenty of tickets available.

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#113 SirFozz
April 14 2010, 02:50PM
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Senator Theo wrote:

The Oilers equivilent would be a Lada, I think.

I still have plenty of tickets available.

Awesome. Will this be on PPV?

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#114 BarryS
April 14 2010, 02:50PM
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Senator Theo wrote:

Why would I expect a hockey team to be run like a car company?

Would I expect a car company to sell tickets for people to watch assembly too?

So a GM slagging his players by name and listing who is for trade and for how much is good business? Running down your guys in public increases their value, right? Actually, car companies give tours all the time, but not of the development department.

No, but they don't advertize their defects either.

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#115 Ender
April 14 2010, 02:50PM
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Scott in Grande Prairie wrote:

Great point, BarryS.

One realization I made a day or so ago is that I have absolutely NO idea what an "acceptable" or "baseline" amount of contact between an (injured) player and the team's GM. No friggin' idea.

That's why I'm so hesitant to buy into Souray's story. For all I know, GMs and players schedule their meetings with a calendar, not a clock.

I mean, think about it: Souray's been hurt for a couple of months. Did he travel with the team? My guess is no. Did he "hang out" at Rexall and run into Tambo in the coffee room or the vending machines or out back by the smoke doors?

Do GMs send flowers to injured players in the hospital? Are they expected to send "thinking-of-you e-mails/text messages? How does it work?

Quinn said a lot of interesting things yesterday but one of the more interesting points was the fact that everyone in the dressing room had known that Souray had wanted out for a while. That "list-of-teams" favour Souray unveiled right before the trade deadline was a thinly-masked straight-up trade demand.

Well, if that's the case, there's not really any need to talk to the player, right? At that point, Souray's agent becomes the go-between, n'est-ce pas?

That's crazy thing about all this, he-said, they-said speculation - none of this back-and-forth communication is anywhere near as nuanced as you might think.

If Souray's too injured to come back for the end of the season and he doesn't want to come back healthy in the fall, then I'd say that there's no need for communication between GM and player. The message has been sent. Tambo's next phone call is to Souray's agent, telling him where he's been traded.

Props, and well put.

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#116 BarryS
April 14 2010, 02:54PM
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Senator Theo wrote:

The Oilers equivilent would be a Lada, I think.

I still have plenty of tickets available.

Takes all kinds to make a world. Had a friend who loved his lada. Course by the time it finally died it was mostly a collection of fiat parts.

Used to call it the red russian.

If I look hard enough in my junk collection I can likely find some tickets from the 80's.

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#117 jake
April 14 2010, 02:54PM
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BarryS wrote:

Question is, does your boss visit you when you're in the hospital? Mine never did, didn't even send a flunky to do it either. The team paid for the surgery and jumped to cue to get it done. Funny thing, hockey players don't seem to have to wait weeks to see a doctor or surgeon then weeks to have the work done.

So Tambo should go visit Whitney in LA?

You run a business, you hire people who want to work for you, not those who think they can run it better for you.

Oh yah, the penalty for mutiny was being strapped across a cannon mouth and having your guts blown out.

I work directly with patients in an acute care hospital and see many patients much sicker than what I believe Souray was (realizing cellulitis from surgical incisions can lead to some nasty stuff). Patients will telephone their employers to let them know they won't be at work, RARELY (if ever) do employers "check in" to see how they are doing.

If Souray wanted to be contacted for pure health reasons, to see how he was doing and nothing else (like "hey Steve, how is it going getting me traded?" )then I find this amusing and ridiculous. Makes me think of this volunteer guy that dresses up as a clown at our hospital and visits patients to up their spirits, should loan him to Souray for an afternoon.

And did I hear Barnes saying Souray was the best player on the Oil yesterday with Gregor, even more comical.

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#118 SirFozz
April 14 2010, 02:56PM
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BarryS wrote:

Takes all kinds to make a world. Had a friend who loved his lada. Course by the time it finally died it was mostly a collection of fiat parts.

Used to call it the red russian.

If I look hard enough in my junk collection I can likely find some tickets from the 80's.

If I look hard enough in my junk I...never mind.

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#119 rubbertrout
April 14 2010, 02:57PM
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SirFozz wrote:

What kind of car?

Do they still make Yugos?

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#120 Archaeologuy
April 14 2010, 02:58PM
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@jake

I believe he said he was their best player LAST YEAR. That's subjective but he was the team's representative at the All-Star Game. He was at the very least ONE of their best players.

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#121 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
April 14 2010, 02:59PM
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Scott in Grande Prairie wrote:

Great point, BarryS.

One realization I made a day or so ago is that I have absolutely NO idea what an "acceptable" or "baseline" amount of contact between an (injured) player and the team's GM. No friggin' idea.

That's why I'm so hesitant to buy into Souray's story. For all I know, GMs and players schedule their meetings with a calendar, not a clock.

I mean, think about it: Souray's been hurt for a couple of months. Did he travel with the team? My guess is no. Did he "hang out" at Rexall and run into Tambo in the coffee room or the vending machines or out back by the smoke doors?

Do GMs send flowers to injured players in the hospital? Are they expected to send "thinking-of-you e-mails/text messages? How does it work?

Quinn said a lot of interesting things yesterday but one of the more interesting points was the fact that everyone in the dressing room had known that Souray had wanted out for a while. That "list-of-teams" favour Souray unveiled right before the trade deadline was a thinly-masked straight-up trade demand.

Well, if that's the case, there's not really any need to talk to the player, right? At that point, Souray's agent becomes the go-between, n'est-ce pas?

That's crazy thing about all this, he-said, they-said speculation - none of this back-and-forth communication is anywhere near as nuanced as you might think.

If Souray's too injured to come back for the end of the season and he doesn't want to come back healthy in the fall, then I'd say that there's no need for communication between GM and player. The message has been sent. Tambo's next phone call is to Souray's agent, telling him where he's been traded.

Very nicely put.

Now with all this being said what is the real reason Souray wanted out?

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#122 jake
April 14 2010, 03:00PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

I believe he said he was their best player LAST YEAR. That's subjective but he was the team's representative at the All-Star Game. He was at the very least ONE of their best players.

OK, my bad, he was arguably their best player last year IMO. I thought he was referring to this year.

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#123 BarryS
April 14 2010, 03:02PM
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By the by, my 80's tickets won't get me in next year. The row and seats they were for don't exist anymore.

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#124 Chickenplucker
April 14 2010, 03:13PM
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@Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

Age and desire to win a cup. Not happening with the Oil in the near future (the length of his contract)

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#125 Scott in Grande Prairie
April 14 2010, 03:22PM
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Why does Souray want out?

He's tired of playing for a loser that's probably gonna be a loser for the next 2-3 seasons.

And you know what? I'm OK with that. If Souray had said something like that, I'd be OK with it.

But all of this "they-made-me-play-hurt" and "nobody-talked-to-me-when-I-was-hurt" garbage is hard to swallow.

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#126 baggedmilk
April 14 2010, 03:28PM
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Taylor Hall says he'd be excited to play in Edmonton.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=318028

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#127 Hat Pughes
April 14 2010, 03:31PM
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That was the worst question I've ever heard...

"what has led you to believe that this team isn't good enough?"

I think that was Tencer. Awful.

If it was Tencer not surprised. He's the lackey there to put the ball on the T-ball Stand for whoever he is asking a question.

Umm Dan lets do some stat research and see where we werent good -- Standings ... last that being 30th (check); Power Play 18th (check); PK 26th (check); Special Teams Combined ... sub 100% at 95.3% (check), Goals per game 27th (check), 30th (check), 5 on 5 Goals to Goals Against Ratio 30th (check), Faceoff Percentage 30th (check), Shots for per game 28th (check), Shots against per game 27th (check), Teams hit leader was 56th in the league and played only 49 games.

So let me sum this up we can't win a faceoff, then don't have enough muscle to "hockey up" and get the puck back cause we don't hit anybody nor can we check 5 on 5; We are outshot every game and our goalies save percentage is low. When we do get the puck we dont shoot it and our shooting percentage is low when we don't turn it over (and stopped wasting time looking for stats -- but personally have countless memories of times when forward turned over the puck just inside the other teams blueline or the neutral zone. I hope the reply to his question was "Everything"

Not big on him as a sports reporter - I dont and wont listen to his postgame stuff and try to climb under my seat at the Pillbox when he does his "Oiler Report".

His post game shows suck...especially since they are reminiscent of Hallsy days of his postgame football show hanging up on people if they have a opposite opinion (not said opposite not stupid or ignorant).

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#128 Archaeologuy
April 14 2010, 03:38PM
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@baggedmilk

You just made Crash's day.

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#129 I'm a Scientist!
April 14 2010, 03:50PM
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baggedmilk wrote:

Taylor Hall says he'd be excited to play in Edmonton.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=318028

Oh yeah... NOOOOW he says that.. Pig boy just wants to have #1 by his name or daddy will beat him. At least that is how i read the situation. On June 26th i might have a completely different take on it.

Team Seguin.

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#130 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
April 14 2010, 03:53PM
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Chickenplucker wrote:

Age and desire to win a cup. Not happening with the Oil in the near future (the length of his contract)

But last spring yet? I mean he had three more years on his contract is it that far fetched to think we wouldn't be a contender in 3 years time?

Edit: He probably should've just said that if it were the case. I mean who would that hurt?

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#131 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
April 14 2010, 03:54PM
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baggedmilk wrote:

Taylor Hall says he'd be excited to play in Edmonton.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=318028

They both said yesterday that they would be exicted by any team that wants them for the future.

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#132 Ender
April 14 2010, 03:55PM
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baggedmilk wrote:

Taylor Hall says he'd be excited to play in Edmonton.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=318028

Must be trying reverse psychology. While going #1 overall kind of immortalizes a player in some ways, I think the #2 guy going to Boston is secretly going to be a lot happier than he lets on.

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#133 dragon
April 14 2010, 03:56PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Very nicely put.

Now with all this being said what is the real reason Souray wanted out?

does it matter anymore?

Tambo played his 'smoke & mirrors' part quite well.

Now forget about %$#@%%$& Souray and let's move on 'cause we need change. Now.

Oh, forget last year, we need to look to the future.

Funny how this line works every bloody year.

So, Souray wants out you say? Hm, who cares! Didn't you hear Master Pat: get the %$@# out as fast as you can. Nobody gives a ^%$#.

Now that's what I call an organization ready to breed new stars.

:-(

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#134 rubbertrout
April 14 2010, 04:01PM
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I'm a Scientist! wrote:

Oh yeah... NOOOOW he says that.. Pig boy just wants to have #1 by his name or daddy will beat him. At least that is how i read the situation. On June 26th i might have a completely different take on it.

Team Seguin.

Pig boy looks like Oli Jokinen with some pigment doesn't he?

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#135 jeanshorts
April 14 2010, 04:11PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

Pig boy looks like Oli Jokinen with some pigment doesn't he?

Less "rape face" too, but the resemblance is fairly striking.

Also, I hope enjoy your new shirt.

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#136 Senator Theo
April 14 2010, 04:15PM
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BarryS wrote:

So a GM slagging his players by name and listing who is for trade and for how much is good business? Running down your guys in public increases their value, right? Actually, car companies give tours all the time, but not of the development department.

No, but they don't advertize their defects either.

Your car company tours notwithstanding, I don't think it's as easy as saying what makes good business sense in one industry holds true in running a professional sports franchise.

Not everything is going to be analogous to your experiences in your own life.

That said, you were originally talking about Steve not tipping his hand to his future plans, and then you migrated to Steve not running down guys in public. Either way, I would expect running an NHL team is very different than running a car company.

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#137 Alan
April 14 2010, 04:23PM
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baggedmilk wrote:

That was the worst question I've ever heard...

"what has led you to believe that this team isn't good enough?"

I think that was Tencer. Awful.

It was Millhouse, and no surprise it was a bad question. He rambles on for a minute and never really asks a question. His questions compared to Gregor's were laughable.

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#138 BUCK75
April 14 2010, 04:26PM
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@I'm a Scientist!

I'm onboard. Hall will need a restraining order for his dad, we already have one of those guys on our team.

~Look what POS *did this year* has done during his career, loads of talent & crazy dad.~

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#139 Mike
April 14 2010, 04:37PM
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BUCK75 wrote:

I totally agree. You can read 100 blogs about the oilers, but this one has 1 really good writer who has a track record. The sooner people realize that a professional writer would have a pretty short career & not many contacts if he 'blew his load' on every scoop he heard.

I think Gregor is pretty damn good too. He just doesn't remind us when he is right, which seems to be pretty often.

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#140 Crackenbury
April 14 2010, 04:39PM
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I'm sick of pretty much everything to do with the Oilers. I'm tired of multi-million dollar players complaining on how they've been mistreated. I tired of pathetic responses from Oiler brass. I'm fed up with $10 beer and soggy pieces of crap pizza. I've been listening to complaints about taxpayer money going to support a hockey team (new arena) for 25 years and that arguement is just about to heat up again. Maybe that's why I enjoy the NFL so much. You can pick "your team" and watch from a distance. The daily sh&t that goes on with the Oilers is getting to be more than I can take and I'm a long time Oiler fan going back to season tickets with my dad in the WHA. Go Rush!!

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#141 Crash
April 14 2010, 04:43PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

You just made Crash's day.

Not really, this is pretty much something I already knew....

What's really going to make everyone's day is when we draft Seguin and he plays a perimeter game just like most of the guys we already have and everyone starts bitching about how we don't have enough greasy players and that notbody goes to the net hard...

Then most will see we should have taken Hall.

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#142 Oilitsinyoutogive
April 14 2010, 04:52PM
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everyone keeps saying this mess falls to Klowe, And dont get me wrong hes as guilty as the kid with his hand in the cookie jar. BUT when does it becomes Tambos fault too, Hes done nothing but make our team worse since hes been here, Bulin and Patty O are on his shoulders. As well as the fact we have 2 11yo back up goalies playing NHL hockey well before one or both is ready. Also he would be to blame for a lack of moves he promised last year. All i am saying is Tambo needs to start being held accountable to the same level Kevin is.

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#143 Archaeologuy
April 14 2010, 04:55PM
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@Crash

Unless Seguin turns into the #1 centre that the team has needed since Weight left.

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#144 DOUG OTWAY
April 14 2010, 05:00PM
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As for Souray, howsa bout the OIL trade Souray and say, Penner and Cogliano for Horton and their 3rd overall. The Panthers get 3 quality players, get rid of a center that doesn't want to be there and get a 5.4 cap hit for Souray while only paying 4.5. Something that could be enticing for a team that is losing money.

Maybe I am just crazy but trading for Horton gives us the #1 center leading the way to end the discussion and the first line reads

Horton-Hemsky-Hall

then

Gagner, Eberle, MPS

Then Brule, Cogs, Moreau

and finally,

Stortini, Poulliot and ???? who really cares???

Then all we need to do is find a way to get rid of Nilsson, Horcoff and O'Sullivan and we are set. THere has to be teams looking for overpaid, under achieving players who are paid like stars.

GOILERS!!!!

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#145 Crash
April 14 2010, 05:04PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Unless Seguin turns into the #1 centre that the team has needed since Weight left.

Yah maybe, but why can't Gagner become that? I think he can and will.

We need some sandpaper more than anything else on this team and to have it in a guy with tons of skill makes it a big bonus...then if MPS can be the same kind of guy then we're off to the races.

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#146 Wanyes bastard child
April 14 2010, 05:04PM
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@DOUG OTWAY

ummm... you traded Cogs for Horton and you also have Cogs on your third line...

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#147 Crash
April 14 2010, 05:05PM
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DOUG OTWAY wrote:

As for Souray, howsa bout the OIL trade Souray and say, Penner and Cogliano for Horton and their 3rd overall. The Panthers get 3 quality players, get rid of a center that doesn't want to be there and get a 5.4 cap hit for Souray while only paying 4.5. Something that could be enticing for a team that is losing money.

Maybe I am just crazy but trading for Horton gives us the #1 center leading the way to end the discussion and the first line reads

Horton-Hemsky-Hall

then

Gagner, Eberle, MPS

Then Brule, Cogs, Moreau

and finally,

Stortini, Poulliot and ???? who really cares???

Then all we need to do is find a way to get rid of Nilsson, Horcoff and O'Sullivan and we are set. THere has to be teams looking for overpaid, under achieving players who are paid like stars.

GOILERS!!!!

I'd like the Oilers to target Shawn Matthias if we're talking Florida...

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#148 Archaeologuy
April 14 2010, 05:06PM
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@DOUG OTWAY

Horton's career high is 62 points. 3 seasons ago. Not exactly a prime candidate to be a legit #1 centre.

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#149 Archaeologuy
April 14 2010, 05:12PM
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@Crash

I believe in Gagner too, but I'd rather be too deep in the centre position than not have no depth at all.

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#150 RossCreekNation
April 14 2010, 05:17PM
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Nathan Horton was a C when he was drafted, but has played both C and RW in the NHL. He's had more success and is better suited as a RW.

Horton & the 3rd overall pick for Hemsky & 31st overall?

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