THE 31ST PICK: WHO'S IN THE CARDS?

Robin Brownlee
June 24 2010 10:51AM

HOLLYWOOD, CA - JUNE 23:  Tyler Seguin, Emerson Etem, Taylor Hall, Cam Fowler and Brett Connolly attend the Top NHL Draft Prospects At The Hollywood Walk of Fame on June 23, 2010 in Hollywood, California.  (Photo by Maury Phillips/Getty Images for NHL)

We've heard enough about these guys... what about the rest?

LOS ANGELES -- It goes without saying the spotlight will be on GM Steve Tambellini and the Edmonton Oilers when the first pick of the 2010 Entry Draft is announced Friday.

That selection is a no-brainer in that it will come down to either Plymouth pivot Tyler Seguin or two-time Memorial Cup MVP Taylor Hall of Windsor -- I know, thanks for the news bulletin.

But what about the second time Tambellini and chief scout Stu MacGregor the podium to make the 31st pick? Who slots in there? Does anybody fall into their lap with the first pick of the second round? Will the Oilers keep the pick or try to move it?

With the first overall pick in franchise history a two-man race, which doesn't lend itself well to my annual draft Wish List, that 31st selection has been a topic of debate among those on MacGregor's scouting staff.

What you can take to the bank is this: you won't find small forwards, undersized defencemen or goaltenders circled on the Oilers list at No. 31. They want size and grit with this pick.

Here's my take on the five leading candidates to have their names called at No. 31, once all the Seguin-Hall drama has played out.

IF THERE IS A HOCKEY GOD...

JARRED TINORDI

VITALS

USA U-18, USHL

Final Rank: 38 Midterm Rank: 42

Position: Defenceman Shoots: Left

Height: 6' 6" Weight: 205

Born: February 20, 1992 Hometown: Millersville, MD

Born in: Burnsville, MN, USA

THE RESUME

-- Tinordi was the captain of the U.S National Team Development Program for the 2009-10 season and recorded two points (1-1-2) and was a plus-eight in seven games leading Team USA to a gold medal at the 2010 Under-18 World Championships.

-- He is the son of Mark Tinordi, who totalled 1,514 penalty minutes in 12 NHL seasons with the Rangers, North Stars, Stars and Capitals from 1987-99. Tinordi wears 24, the same number as his father.

-- Tinordi played in 67 games with the U.S. Under-17 team last season, where he recorded 20 points (6-14--20) and 71 penalty minutes.

WHAT THEY SAY

NHL Central Scouting's Jack Barzee

"He skates very well for a big guy. He has an excellent shot from the point. He's a pretty smart player. The head's there, the hands are there, the shot's there, the skating ability is there. He's got a real, real cannon for a shot."

MACGREGOR'S TAKE

"He plays hard and he keeps his game simple. He's a competitive, hard-nosed kind of player."

THE SKINNY

Despite his final ranking, most scouts feel Tinordi will go 20-25th. If he slips, MacGregor will run to the microphone like his hair is on fire and yell "T-i-n-o-r-d-i" at the top of his lungs. Can't see the Oilers getting this guy.

THREE TO WATCH

CHARLIE COYLE

VITALS

South Shore, EJHL

Final Rank: 24 Midterm Rank: 19

Position: Right Wing/Center Shoots: Right

Height: 6' 2" Weight: 202

Born: March 2, 1992 Hometown: Weymouth, MA

Born in: Boston, MA, USA

THE RESUME

-- Coyle, who will attend Boston University, was named Eastern Junior Hockey League Rookie of the Year after finishing fifth overall in scoring with 63 points (21-42--63) in 42 games.

-- He was selected to represent his country at the 2009 Ivan Hlinka Memorial as well as the 2009 Four Nations Cup where he scored the overtime winner against Switzerland wrapping up the tournament title for the U.S. with a 3-0 record.

-- Is the cousin of former NHL player Tony Amonte. Amonte, who also played hockey at Boston University, was drafted 68th overall in 1988 by the New York Rangers and had 900 points in the NHL playing for New York, Chicago, Phoenix, Philadelphia and Calgary (1991-2007).

WHAT THEY SAY

NHL Central Scouting’s Gary Eggleston

"Charlie is a skilled forward, who can play a power game as well as a finesse game. He has very good size and athleticism. He has very soft hands and is a confident puck handler. His passes are accurate and proper for the situation.

"He has a long and strong stride and beats defenders with his acceleration and puck skills. He has a very good wrist shot to support his passing skills in his role as a major contributor to his team's offence. He should, however, shoot the puck more than he does to take advantage of his excellent shot."

MACGREGOR'S TAKE

"The book on him is that he's big, strong and he competes. He's also got good hockey sense."

THE SKINNY

Size? Grit? Decent skill? Compete level? Coyle fits the bill. The Oilers will be thrilled to get him with this pick.

BROCK NELSON

VITALS

Warroad, HIGH-MN

Final Rank: 25 Midterm Rank: 17

Position: Center Shoots: Left

Height: 6' 3" Weight: 205

Born: October 15, 1991 Hometown: Warroad, MN

Born in: Minneapolis, MN, USA

THE RESUME

-- In 25 regular season games in 2009-10, Nelson recorded a point in every game and scored a goal in all but two. He had 73 points (39-34--73), averaging 2.92 points-per-game. He has committed to the University of North Dakota (2011).

-- His uncle, Dave Christian, was a member of the 1980 U.S. Olympic gold medal-winning team and enjoyed an NHL career that spanned over 1000 games. An All-American at the University of North Dakota, he was drafted 40th overall in 1979 by the Winnipeg Jets.

-- His grandfather, Billy Christian, and great uncle, Roger Christian, played on Team USA’s 1960 gold-medal winning men's hockey team. Gordon Christian, also his great uncle, played hockey for the University of North Dakota (1947-1950) and was a member of the U.S. Olympic team that won silver in 1956.

WHAT THEY SAY

Director of NHL Central Scouting, E.J. McGuire

"Big, strapping center in the Minnesota High School league. Going to North Dakota next year and destined to be an NHLer with six-foot-two frame, 205-pound build. Guaranteed, hard-skating power forward."

MACGREGOR'S TAKE

"He's got very good hockey sense and he skates well for a big player. A lot of people think he's going to go in the top 25."

THE SKINNY

With 149 points in 56 high school games the past two seasons, Nelson has some offensive tools, but it's his big body and skating ability that has the Oilers hoping he's available.

RYAN MARTINDALE

VITALS

Ottawa, OHL

Final Rank: 27 Midterm Rank: 24

Position: Center Shoots: Left

Height: 6' 3" Weight: 183

Born: October 27, 1991 Hometown: Brooklin, ON

Born in: Oshawa, ON,

THE RESUME

-- After breaking out in 2008-09, his second season in Ottawa, with 23 goals in 53 games, Martindale settled into more of a play-making role this season, tallying 41 assists in 64 games.

-- He had an advantage that most young hockey players don't -- his father was a goalie for the Toronto Marlboros in the OHA (1979-83).

-- Martindale's favourite athlete is Joe Sakic. He wore No. 7 in minor hockey because his father was a fan of Phil Esposito. He wears No. 77 in Ottawa because No. 7 is retired (Doug Wilson and Denis Potvin).

WHAT THEY SAY

Ottawa 67’s head coach Chris Byrne

"Ryan is a tall, skilled, swift-skating center who can play in all situations. Ryan has worked hard on playing a two-way game this season. He has a nose for the net and can beat defenders one-on-one with his size, speed or skill."

MACGREGOR'S TAKE

"Another big kid and he has good skill. He's not consistently physical, but he works hard."

THE SKINNY

Not as highly rated as Coyle or Nelson, but the Oilers will take a long look at him at 31st if the others are gone.

THE SLEEPER...

CURTIS HAMILTON

VITALS

Saskatoon, WHL

Final Rank: 42 Midterm Rank: 56

Position: Left Wing Shoots: Left

Height: 6' 2" Weight: 209

Born: December 4, 1991 Hometown: Kelowna, BC

Born in: Tacoma, WA, USA

THE RESUME

-- Hamilton played just 26 games for the Blades, but managed to record 16 points (7-9-16) and shake off breaking his collarbone (twice) as well as separating his shoulder. He will take part in Canada’s World Junior evaluation camp this summer.

-- He is the son of Bruce Hamilton, a former Saskatoon Blades forward (1974-77) and current owner and general manager of the Kelowna Rockets. His father was selected by St. Louis 81st overall in 1977.

-- Hamilton was drafted in the second round (36th overall) in the 2006 Bantam WHL Draft and was a member of Team Canada at the 2009 Under-18 World Championships.

WHAT THEY SAY

Saskatoon Blades Assistant GM Jarrod Brodsky

"Hamilton is a good skating winger with a powerful skating stride; good two-way player who is smart at both ends of the ice. He takes puck to the net and is learning to use his size and strength more."

MACGREGOR'S TAKE

"He's big and strong with a good head for the game."

THE SKINNY

While MacGregor didn't want to say too much about Hamilton, the Oilers scouting staff likes him -- they like him a lot. With Hamilton losing so many games to injury, MacGregor is hoping he flies under the radar.

PICK 'EM

Round-by-round look at where the Oilers are slotted to pick.

  • 1st round - 1st
  • 2nd round - 31st
  • 2nd round - 48th*
  • 3rd round - 61st
  • 4th round - 91st
  • 5th round - 121st
  • 6th round - 162nd**
  • 6th round - 166th***
  • 7th round - 181st

*From Nashville for Denis Grebeshkov

**From Anaheim for Lubomir Visnovsky

***From Ottawa for a 2009 seventh-round pick

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- the 151.

Justin Faulk is who McKenzie had at 30 I'd take a chance on him, but maybe with NSH pick. Bradley Ross is another I think we'd have interest in. Apparently the top aggitaor in the draft, once again though that could be more down to NSH pick.

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#2 DC
June 24 2010, 11:02AM
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Would we really pass on Calvin Pickard if he was around at 31. I wouldn't not with only O. Roy as our goalie future prospect. Nothing against Roy.

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#3 Eddie Shore
June 24 2010, 11:02AM
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Taylor or Tyler?!?!?

JK. A good read. Thanks for the insight Robin.

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#4 Dyckster
June 24 2010, 11:07AM
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Lots of American born players in that list. Their program gets stronger every year.

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@DC

Goalies are tough and take long to develop. Look at what is happening around the league and even here. By the time the guys are close to being NHL ready they have to clear waivers, so instead of rounding their game off in the AHL you have to put them on your NHL bench and let them waste away.

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#6 The Pestival
June 24 2010, 11:11AM
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Anyone but that Coyle kid. There would be an endless stream of Oiler/ Coyler jokes going around. That Brock Nelson sounds like a beast though. If we can get either Nelson or Hamilton I would be extremely stoked.

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#7 Chris.
June 24 2010, 11:14AM
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@Brownlee:

Would love to get Tinordi... Are you maybe giving us a bit of an inside scoop? Just how badly do the Oilers covet this guy? If Tinordi is still available at 25th/26th would Tambellini make a serious pitch to secure this asset? (Kinda like the Nash deal in 2006)

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#8 The Duke of Hafford
June 24 2010, 11:17AM
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Any talk about Nash being traded before the draft? Would he be able to fetch a second round pick?

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#9 R.A. Slapshotzky
June 24 2010, 11:17AM
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Maybe the 31st pick will be part of a deal to move up some ranks.

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#10 Alon
June 24 2010, 11:36AM
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Hey Robin, a guy I've been pulling for, for quite some time, at 31 is Alexander Petrovic. Obviously you don't think he's on their radar, but is there a chance we take a flyer on him?

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#11 BUCK75
June 24 2010, 11:39AM
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Dyckster wrote:

Lots of American born players in that list. Their program gets stronger every year.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

ISS has Coyle, Tinordi, & Nelson as late picks in the first round. While Flaming/Millard only have Nelson & Tinordi going in the late picks of the first round.

I hope we can get Tinordi. His pedigree & size have me already thinking he could be a guy who could have a good career in the NHL. Maybe if Brock Beukeboom is still around @ 48 we could take a chance on him if we don't get Tinordi.

I'm surprised Jordan Weal didn't make the MacGregor list. I guess we are going to start building some size & grit.

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#12 Quicksilver ballet
June 24 2010, 11:39AM
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Everything looks so good.....we'll take one of each please.

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#13 Curious
June 24 2010, 11:40AM
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What about that McFarland kid from Sudbury. He was ranked in the top 10 at the beginning of the season but has slipped considerably since then after a not so good year?

If they could somehow get Tinordi, that would definitely be a win.

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#14 Kevin S
June 24 2010, 11:44AM
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What about Jordon Weal out of Regina? Small player, but has sick skills, has put up huge numbers and had a lot of chemistry with Eberle.

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#15 MrCondor
June 24 2010, 11:48AM
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Trade up for Tinordi. We need D!!!

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#16 Jamie
June 24 2010, 11:57AM
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@Robin Brownlee

Did you have any discussions with Stu about Kabanov? Obviously the kid has some issues but if he was still there at 48 would they take him? Or if they can find some way to get another pick late in the first of middle of the second would they risk a pick on him?

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#17 misfit
June 24 2010, 12:01PM
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I'm glad you mentioned Coyle. To me, he's exactly the kind of guy the Oilers will be looking for at that spot.

It would be nice if Brad Ross fell out of the 1st, but I find that unlikely (then again, I don't think Brock Nelson will either).

I like Martindale too, but I think there's an ok chance he might still be there at 48. I think there will be better players at 31. I don't see him as a 1st round pick like he seems to be ranked.

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#18 nakedmike
June 24 2010, 12:05PM
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Good read my man. What do you think the chances are of Dylan Mcilrath still lingering around by the time the 31st pick comes along? I want to see him in Oiler silks.

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#19 Curious
June 24 2010, 12:13PM
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@nakedmike

Zero. No way he gets by Anaheim if he is still around then.

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#23 CurtisS
June 24 2010, 12:25PM
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I want:

Hall Ross Mckeeg

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#24 Bauer
June 24 2010, 12:38PM
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What about Brock Beukeboom?????????

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#25 SirFozz
June 24 2010, 12:41PM
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Squeeeeeeeee!!!*

*Squeeeee!!!

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@Robin Brownlee

Is Mcilrath someone that the Oilers would take if they were trading up?

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#27 VMR
June 24 2010, 12:45PM
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It's nice to see a fairly sizable list of players they might be interested in. One of the problems with looking into the second round is you can never tell what others teams are going to do so someone may have a guy you like and think would be available at #31 but they could take him at 25. The other problem is the Oilers may see someone they like fall a bit and trade up a few spots by giving up their other second or third.

I'm a little surprised there arent more defencemen on that list. To me it's definitely an organizational need and I thought there were a fair amount of decent players rate around that area. Of course maybe you think the ones the Oilers would be interested will have already disappeared by then.

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#28 Poo Czar
June 24 2010, 12:50PM
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I'm not thrilled about abandoning "Best Player Available" to go with "Best Large/Gritty Player Available". Didn't they learn from the Zach Parise debacle?

BALLSY SQUEEEE!!!!

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#29 Maverick
June 24 2010, 12:58PM
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CurtisS wrote:

I want:

Hall Ross Mckeeg

I agree, if they can walk away with these three players it will be a successful 1st and 2nd rounds. However, a defenseman might be in the plans at #31.

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#30 Wanye
June 24 2010, 01:15PM
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Are the top 5 picks sponsored by Lacoste? WTF is the business with the kids these days. That ain't to fashion house befitting a millionaire 18 year old...

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#31 Curious
June 24 2010, 01:46PM
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@Wanye

Is that what that gay little dragon is for now? When I was a kid wearign that logo to school would get you a sound beating from the older kids.

I think I have a rag in the shop with that logo - I should wash it and start wearing it then ill be cool again

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#32 Crooked
June 24 2010, 01:49PM
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I'm still curious to see when and where Tambi gets a goalie to start in OKC next season. Is Roy ready for a full season? Is he ready to start? Are there any plans to acquire an AHL vet who could step up to the NHL level should Khabi break down/be spending several months in a federal prison having his ass turned into a pin cushion? Are there plans to draft a goalie, and if so, any idea on whom the Oilers may be interested in?

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#33 madjam
June 24 2010, 01:59PM
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Chris. wrote:

@Brownlee:

Would love to get Tinordi... Are you maybe giving us a bit of an inside scoop? Just how badly do the Oilers covet this guy? If Tinordi is still available at 25th/26th would Tambellini make a serious pitch to secure this asset? (Kinda like the Nash deal in 2006)

Tinordi would be my choice but it's sounding like he might be going earlier . Beukeboom should be readily available and maybe even at 48th pick . The only thing not mentioned much is any talk of European players that might be promising in those spots . Oilers like to get some Europeans each draft season and often in second round . There should be some good ones aroud 31st pick to consider. Maybe a Lindberg or to a less extent Nemeth ?

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#34 Oil_Loc8or
June 24 2010, 02:32PM
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Best player not position!!

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#35 Wanye
June 24 2010, 03:11PM
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Curious wrote:

Is that what that gay little dragon is for now? When I was a kid wearign that logo to school would get you a sound beating from the older kids.

I think I have a rag in the shop with that logo - I should wash it and start wearing it then ill be cool again

If you tie it jauntily around your neck, run a pair of skinny jeans and run from every fight you see you will fit in with today's wussy kids.

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#36 RossCreekNation
June 24 2010, 05:09PM
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@Crooked

Lots of time to address the goaltending in OKC... Jeez, free agency hasn't even started yet and people are getting their sh!t in a knot. Settle down.

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#37 RossCreekNation
June 24 2010, 05:12PM
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@Wanye

Skinny Jeans... look up the song "I Hate Your Pants" by Royce Da 5'9... LOLZ

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#38 Mitch
June 24 2010, 06:41PM
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Robin what about that Ross kid from portland. Does he fall into the second. If the Oilers get 15 who do they go to. Nice to see Steve trying finally to do something. At 15 do you go to Ettem?

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