2010: TRAINING CAMP DAY ONE...MEDICALS

Jason Gregor
September 17 2010 10:25AM

Day one of training camp isn’t very exciting. The media stands around slugging coffee, eating muffins,debating the reasoning behind the training camp lines and wondering how a station can report Pat Burns has passed away, only to recant the report due to erroneous information. ***I'm not making light of Burns' health, rather how incredibly insensitive we've become as a society that people race to be the first to report someone has passed away. It's disgusting in my view.***

 At Rexall the players get to visit the dentist, doctor, nutritionist, trainers and then find out how hard they worked in the off season during the Windgate and Vo2 tests. The rookies did their medicals last week so they had an easier day.

 
This year the line combinations were more interesting, because everyone was wondering where Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle and Magnus Paajarvi would line up. Here's what you will see on the ice tomorrow at Rexall Place.
 
TEAM A
 
Dubnyk (40) and Pitton (50)
 
Whitney (6)/Petry (58)
Strudwick (43)/Blain (61)
Davidson (60)/Bendfeld (55)/Ehrhardt (75)
 
Penner (27)/Gagner (89)/Hemsky (83)
Schraber (74)/Pitlick (68)/ Ondrus (25)
Hartikainen (56)/Reddox (85)/Stortini (46)
Cornet (51)/Kytnar (64)/Abney (53)
Jacques (22) won’t be skating. He is still not recovered from surgery.
 
TEAM B
 
Deslauriers (38)/Khabibulin (35)/Bunz (1)
 
Peckham (49)/Gilbert (77)
Petiot (37)/ Plante (48)
Marincin (70)/Taylor (81)/Toigo (73)
 
Paajarvi (91)/Cogliano (13)/ Brule (67)
Giroux (12)/O’Marra (42)/MacDonald (57)
Hamilton (52)/Moran (20)/ Thomas (59)
MacIntyre (33)/Martindale (66)/ Livingston (69)
Aulin (47)
 
TEAM C
 
Gerber (29)/ Roy (1)
 
Vandermeer (2)/Foster (26)
Chorney (41)/Smid (5)
Belle (45)/Motin (39)/Schlumpf (72)
Hall (4)/Horcoff (10)/Eberle (14)
Jones (28)/Fraser (16)/Omark (23)
Stewart (36)/Vande Velde (54)/Pelss (63)
Gimblett (65)/Marquardt (62) Czerwonka (71)
 
Keep in mind that these are just training camp lines, but it is clear that Tom Renney wants Ales Hemsky to be excited and motivated from the start of camp. Last year Hemsky wasn’t impressed having J.F Jacques on his LW to start the season.
 
Horcoff and Hemsky haven’t been on a training camp line for the past three years, so there is still a chance they might eventually end up together, but it doesn’t surprise me that Horcoff, the best two-way centre, is flanked by two rookies.
 
The line combo that intrigues me the most is the Paajarvi/Cogliano/Brule trio. They have speed to burn, and if Cogliano’s off-season faceoff work pays off, then they could stick together. I don’t see Horcoff starting the season with two rookies, but that’s what the preseason is for.
 
I’ve been told that Omark will line up with some offensive minded players in preseason, but they also want to see how he can cycle the puck, so it makes sense that he lines up with Jones and Fraser for training camp.
 

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#51 Racki
September 17 2010, 03:06PM
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Ender wrote:

You must be kidding. Team A's goaltending is average at best, their defence is abysmal, and they have one line on offence. No chance for the JMC for them.

Team C is the only one with enough balance and depth to be considered a frontrunner. Even there, Gerber will need to exceed expectations to keep them in it.

(Interesting thought there; if Gerber does hang in tough enough to help Team C win, does that change what the coaching staff think about doing with Delauriers and Dubnyk? I know that Gerber is the only one of our four starting goalies with a 2-way contract, but if he plays better than the two youngsters, is there a chance he stays with the big club as the official #2?)

I agree, I think Team C is the most balanced of the teams. Decent blue line and goaltending (when compared to the other teams). Big drop off after the top six, but I think they've got the best of the 3 teams ;) (p.s. Fifty-FIST!)

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#52 VK63
September 17 2010, 03:09PM
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@Archaeologuy

How much money?

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#53 Pajamah
September 17 2010, 03:17PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Plastic sandbox shovels don't count.

My union rep said that they do!

*Evil, I-never-have-to-work-again laughter*

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#54 Chris.
September 17 2010, 03:21PM
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Ha. Brad Moran...

http://trashysworld.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/get.a.brain.morans.jpg

I smile every time.

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#55 Chris.
September 17 2010, 03:22PM
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Not to brag or anything... but I just took delivery on my season seat package.

*rubbing hands gleefuly in anticipation of more piss poor hockey in an aging facility*

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#56 David S
September 17 2010, 03:24PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

So why do some people insist on linking to it and sending them traffic? Are they on our blogroll?

Sorry. I didn't think it was a problem because Willis writes over there and it's an established site. Maybe they (Copper and Blue) should be on the blog roll. I'll refrain in the future.

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#57 Librarian Mike
September 17 2010, 03:30PM
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So, is this picture supposed to be this year's 'hot dressing room' photo?

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#58 Adam D
September 17 2010, 03:34PM
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So, wait, CnB is stupid because it's pessimistic? Makes sense.

We only finished last place in the league by an absolutely outrageous margin, filled all our holes with teenagers and obtained the services of one Steven H MacIntyre, who is hilariously absent from the TC line-ups. I imagine the assistant coaches of the various teams spent half an hour arguing about who had to take before hand-shaking on a gentlemen's agreement to give him the wrong address for camp.

Yeah, those CnB guys are absolute idiots.

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#59 Racki
September 17 2010, 03:35PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

So, is this picture supposed to be this year's 'hot dressing room' photo?

This is the Big-Sexy-less Oilers.

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#60 Racki
September 17 2010, 03:36PM
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Adam D wrote:

So, wait, CnB is stupid because it's pessimistic? Makes sense.

We only finished last place in the league by an absolutely outrageous margin, filled all our holes with teenagers and obtained the services of one Steven H MacIntyre, who is hilariously absent from the TC line-ups. I imagine the assistant coaches of the various teams spent half an hour arguing about who had to take before hand-shaking on a gentlemen's agreement to give him the wrong address for camp.

Yeah, those CnB guys are absolute idiots.

Not that I think MacIntyre is the fix for the team holes, but just as a heads up, he's on Team B.

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#61 Chris.
September 17 2010, 03:39PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

You guys are both out to lunch.

Team B clearly has the better Goaltending and depth to take down the other teams.

The defense is stacked with Gilbert and solid AHL guys like Petiot, Plante, and Peckham.

Add in the best of the rookie forwards with a rejuvenated Cogliano and Brule. Follow that up with AHL superstar Giroux and we're set on team B.

Did I mention Goaltending? Team B has the starter and the back-up. Team A has a kid that managed 5 good games last year and Team C has Darth Gerber.

My money's on B.

Wow Arch... I think team B is the weakest of the three.

Team A may have suspect defence but it also features three of the most talented established Oiler forwards with Penner, Hemsky, and Gagner up front... with a second serving of Pitlick down the middle. (The best rookie camp surprise)

Team C has the nicest balance... and "Darth Gerber" may just prove to be the best tender at camp... being that he wasn't on the shelf all last year and is old enough to shave.

Thing is... it's hard to predict if Penner, or Hemsky, and the like will really bring it at camp. Vetrans tend to ramp up a little more slowly since their jobs aren't really on the line...So when I comment that team A is strong I'm speaking more in a world of hypothetical... what if these three teams played out an extended tourney againsty each other with everything on the line?

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#62 Adam D
September 17 2010, 03:42PM
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@Racki

I literally spent a minute searching for him, and the found him while reading another blog's take on the line-ups. I am that stupid.

I do, however, stand by my statement that they will probably give him the wrong address and ask Joey to suit up and fill his spot in the line-up.

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#63 snow ball
September 17 2010, 03:45PM
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Nice to see the good old oil trying to make our future into a good bunch of third line players. Please hockey gods don't put these two up coming stars with such dead weight

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#64 Adam D
September 17 2010, 03:49PM
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snow ball wrote:

Nice to see the good old oil trying to make our future into a good bunch of third line players. Please hockey gods don't put these two up coming stars with such dead weight

Are you suggesting that Cogs and Brule are dead weight? Or Horcoff and whichever one of Eberle/Hall you don't consider to be a rising star?

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#65 Archaeologuy
September 17 2010, 03:55PM
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@Chris.

I just wanted to give B some love.

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#66 Chris.
September 17 2010, 03:55PM
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Reasonable predictions out west:

Tier One: Detroit. Chicago. San Jose. Vancouver. Los Angeles.

Tier Two: Phoenix. St Louis. Nashville. Colorado. Annaheim.

Tier Three: Calgary. Columbus. Edmonton. Minnesota. Dallas.

Optimism is the word of the day... but I see six playoff spots already taken before the puck drops... and at least five or six teams with more depth, proven talent, and experience than the Oilers battling it out for the remaining two spots.

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#67 Chris.
September 17 2010, 03:56PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

I just wanted to give B some love.

When you really look at it... Renny did a nice job splitting up so many players.

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#68 Quicksilver ballet
September 17 2010, 04:01PM
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Perhaps Pat Burns should have kept quiet through all this speculation, for a couple of days anyways. What a gift that would be, to see firsthand the outpouring of support of all those who cared and lives he touched while he was still here with us.

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#69 Archaeologuy
September 17 2010, 04:08PM
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@Chris.

Yeah, it will be interesting when this starts to get boiled down. I want to see those guys slated for the AHL club push really hard. Especially for that 6th/7th defense opening. I'm not sold on Peckham, even if he is waiver eligible.

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#70 Sammy D
September 17 2010, 04:28PM
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Chris. wrote:

Not to brag or anything... but I just took delivery on my season seat package.

*rubbing hands gleefuly in anticipation of more piss poor hockey in an aging facility*

Got mine yesterday - 1st year of hopefully many many successful seasons (after the 2-3 year rebuild)

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#71 Oilfan22
September 17 2010, 04:31PM
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A all the way...no contest..

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#72 Chris.
September 17 2010, 04:39PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Yeah, it will be interesting when this starts to get boiled down. I want to see those guys slated for the AHL club push really hard. Especially for that 6th/7th defense opening. I'm not sold on Peckham, even if he is waiver eligible.

It's nice that Steve got to play hero and bring all the rookies to camp... but IMO it ridiculous to have more than two full squads going into main camp. 63-64 players... really? Training camp time is limited: let's stop fkucin around and make the easy assignments pronto so the NHL coaches have more time to work with people who may actually see the inside of an NHL barn this season.

This is year one of the "new culture" and unfortunately a lunatic standard has been set: all of next years rookies will expect an automatic taste of main camp; and so on... missed opportunity to set a more reasonable standard.

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#74 Chris.
September 17 2010, 04:56PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

You had five teams in first tier, but you have six spots already taken. Which tier two team is a lock for you?

I think the top five are locks, but after that the other ten are all ??? in my opinion.

Hi Jason.

Phoenix will make it. I don't consider them a tier one style lock... but they'll make it. St Louis, Nashville, Colorado, and maybe Annaheim/Calgary will be battling hard for only two spots... Edmonton is not really in the mix. Sure they might end the seaon only five or ten points back of the cut instead of thirty-two... but they'll probably still be behind at least four or five teams.

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#75 russ99
September 17 2010, 05:35PM
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@ Chris:

Put the Blackhawks in tier 2:

In the local paper here in Chi-town, there was a story claiming that Pisani and Potulny would be able to fill the spots of the departed valuable role players like Byfuglien, Ladd, Versteeg, etc. sent out of town for cap reasons.

LOL! What are they smoking?

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#76 bdhs
September 17 2010, 05:49PM
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Chicago is going to be right in there again, Turco had better numbers than Niemi playing for a poor team, they still have their top four D and most of the guys who left up front are easily replaceable. They have to find three top nine guys to replace Byfuglien, Versteeg and Ladd. Brouwer scored more goals than any of them. There's one. Stallberg, the kid they got from Toronto, is a big body who can motor. He's number two, imo. So they just need one more guy from one of their kids (Skille, Bickell, Beech) to step it up.

They haven't the depth they had but if they stay healthy they will challenge for the Cup again.

As for our Oilers they're going to probably be pretty poor this season but I'm looking forward to seeing the kids. Here's hoping they make some strides and stay healthy.

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#77 Cervantes
September 17 2010, 05:53PM
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Does anyone know the waiver status of Gerber? I had thought, between age and NHL games played, he would have to pass through. Anyone have an authoritative opinion?

(and at the first mention of his two-way contract, I will cover you in Miley Cyrus CD's and set Wanye upon you).

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#78 Chloe
September 17 2010, 05:55PM
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I agree Jason that what happened today regarding Pat Burns is disgusting, but it's pretty rich coming from the guy was the first to report that Heatley waived his no trade clause to come to Edmonton last summer. Erroneously reporting that someone has died is far more serious than screwing up the report of a trade, but your "scoop" could have had huge consequences for Penner, Smid and Cogliano.

Those who live in glass houses...

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#79 magisterrex
September 17 2010, 06:22PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

So why do some people insist on linking to it and sending them traffic? Are they on our blogroll?

Hey, another viewpoint is good to have...except when the site is so completely negative that the only changes in viewpoint are in measured in degrees of negativity.

I much prefer ON, where the posts range from slightly absurd to deep number crunching, with a wide range of opinion between.

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#80 Steve
September 17 2010, 07:19PM
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magisterrex wrote:

That negative website linked above spends a lot of time complaining about either the team or management. Not a lot of objectivity there, IMO. Negativity tends to breed when left unopposed, and that's what's happened to that website.

Negativity tends to breed when intelligent people look at situations that evidence overwhelmingly suggests are negative.

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#81 magisterrex
September 17 2010, 08:21PM
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Steve wrote:

Negativity tends to breed when intelligent people look at situations that evidence overwhelmingly suggests are negative.

Or it's just the Dunning–Kruger effect in action.

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#84 Chloe
September 18 2010, 01:42AM
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I didn't compare a no trade clause to death Jason. That's why I wrote, "erroneously reporting that someone has died is far more serious than screwing up the report of a trade." I was simply making a point that in an attempt to get the story first, you jumped the gun and reported something that wasn't true. Agreed that the names had been out there for some time so there wasn't a big issue there, but you made a huge factual blunder on a story that was arguably the biggest story for this franchise in 3 years.

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