Job Market

Lowetide
September 20 2010 06:40PM

With the 20 roster cuts this afternoon, the Oilers are down to a more workable number. The truth is we could probably cut this roster down ourselves (and right now) and be very close to the 23 who'll make the grade. How many spots are open for competition? My answer is 6.

We can begin the conversation by listing all of the contracts that won't be moved and the players who will be an integral part of the 10-11 Oilers:

  1. Nikolai Khabibulin
  2. Tom Gilbert
  3. Ryan Whitney
  4. Kurtis Foster
  5. Ladislav Smid
  6. Jim Vandermeer
  7. Dustin Penner
  8. Ales Hemsky
  9. Sam Gagner
  10. Shawn Horcoff
  11. Taylor Hall
  12. Gilbert Brule
  13. Andrew Cogliano
  14. Ryan Jones
  15. Colin Fraser
  16. Zack Stortini
  17. Steve MacIntyre

That leaves 6 roster spots open. One goalie, two defenders and three forwards. Allow me to list the 6 players I believe will fill those slots:

  1. Devan Dubnyk
  2. Jason Strudwick
  3. Theo Peckham
  4. Magnus Pääjärvi
  5. Jordan Eberle
  6. Ryan O'Marra

I'm assuming (as Jason Gregor has been telling us for some time) that JF Jacques won't be ready. That means all of the other TC players are fighting with the 6  names in bold for big league employment. Here are the names:

  1. Jeff Deslauriers
  2. Martin Gerber
  3. Olivier Roy
  4. Shawn Belle
  5. Taylor Chorney
  6. Alex Plante
  7. Jeff Petry
  8. Richard Petiot
  9. Johan Motin
  10. Linus Omark 
  11. Alex Giroux
  12. Liam Reddox
  13. Brad Moran
  14. Greg Stewart
  15. Ben Ondrus 
  16. Chris Vande Velde 
  17. Teemu Hartikainen
  18. Tyler Pitlick
  19. Cameron Abney

I think that is everyone. However, there are lots of  names in there without a snowball's chance in hell of making the final cut. I have placed the strongest contenders in italics.  JDD might beat DD, Belle could win a job over either Strudiwck or Peckham, and O'Marra is such a weak option for the extra C that Omark, Giroux and Reddox are in the mix. Anyone else? If my ramblings are true, we can probably predict the next 14 cuts: Gerber, Roy, Chorney, Plante, Petry, Petiot, Motin, Moran, Stewart, Ondrus, VV, Hartikainen, Pitlick and Abney. 

Steve Tambellini's Oilers are going to be very young, and unless they make a deal over the  next two weeks, we're looking at (at MOST) one or two surprises at camp. Maybe Renney risks waivers for Peckham in favor of Belle, maybe the club decides Deslauriers is the man to backup Super Bowl Sunday and maybe O'Marra doesn't win that last F slot (well, 13th ahead of MacIntyre). 

But this camp looks predictable from here. I can't see this year's Ryan Stone  in there. Can you? 

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#51 Bob Arctor
September 21 2010, 01:38AM
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Craig1981 wrote:

Very inflated salary? He make $225,000 over league min. He also does a ton of extra 'volunteer' work that is huge help to the organization as well. I think he is entitiled to get paid more than a MacIntyre or Brett Sutter

Do you think Strudwick should be making more money than say Mike Comrie, or anyone else that might actually be able to play hockey? You must have missed Strudwick's appearance in "The Shift" last year.

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#53 Wedge
September 21 2010, 07:34AM
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maybe the club decides Deslauriers is the man to backup Super Bowl Sunday

" Super Bowl Sunday " - I just caught that now. Good one LT!

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#54 Deep Oil
September 21 2010, 08:02AM
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Have the Oilers painted themselves into a corner annointing Taylor Hall a spot on the team, noting Orr his agent declined Team Canada's invite for his client, thus technically barring Hall from the world junior if protocol is kept.

Maybe this is a case of incubating Hall within a stone's throw of Rexall, vs back in junior where loss of control over their asset, or an injury there would be a media debacle vs an injury in the show.

Too quick to judge, but the buzz about Hall has transferred to MPS, noting that the development of Hall might be stagnated either way, junior to easy, nhl to hard, thus treading water.

No quick fix - the hockey almanac says 3 - 4 more years of rebuild.

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#55 Alan
September 21 2010, 08:31AM
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Bob Arctor wrote:

Do you think Strudwick should be making more money than say Mike Comrie, or anyone else that might actually be able to play hockey? You must have missed Strudwick's appearance in "The Shift" last year.

That footage just proves how out to lunch Corsi numbers are. Detroit had one good scoring chance, and it was after POS handed them the puck in the slot.

It is funny that Strudwick and Chorney were on for that long, but it's not like JDD had to stand on his head.

And if Shawn Belle has so much more talent than Strudwick how come he hasn't played in the NHL as consistently?? Just curious all of you armchair quarterbacks.

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#56 Oiljug
September 21 2010, 08:50AM
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Did we kick J.F Jacques off the team?

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#57 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
September 21 2010, 09:12AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

I think maybe Giroux/Reddox over O'Marra... and the way Bob keeps pumping Belle's tires, maybe he makes it. Perhaps Strudwick to F?

Next round of (rather easy) cuts, imo...

Olivier Roy
Johan Motin
Richard Petiot
Brad Moran
Greg Stewart
Chris Vande Velde
Cameron Abney
Colin Mcdonald
Jake Taylor
Jared Aulin

Curious how Ben Ondrus is looking out there.

I don't know what the hard-on in Edmonton for Belle is all about.

The guy got in 2 games on an injury riddled defense that had O'brien/MAB/Hall Gill playing 2nd pairing minutes.

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#58 Ryan14
September 21 2010, 09:28AM
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Deep Oil wrote:

Have the Oilers painted themselves into a corner annointing Taylor Hall a spot on the team, noting Orr his agent declined Team Canada's invite for his client, thus technically barring Hall from the world junior if protocol is kept.

Maybe this is a case of incubating Hall within a stone's throw of Rexall, vs back in junior where loss of control over their asset, or an injury there would be a media debacle vs an injury in the show.

Too quick to judge, but the buzz about Hall has transferred to MPS, noting that the development of Hall might be stagnated either way, junior to easy, nhl to hard, thus treading water.

No quick fix - the hockey almanac says 3 - 4 more years of rebuild.

Hall declined the invitation to focus on making the Oilers this year. that doesn't show arrogance on the side of the Oilers, that shows dedication on the side of Hall and his camp. Something this team needs.

What good will sending Hall to the OHL serve? He can't develop much more there. If Renney is smart with how he handles Hall and Eberle, this can be a very successful year. Remember, we don't have the rotating door theory when it comes to lines this year, we have a very intellectual Renney. He isn't going to be giving Hall the toughest minutes. He'll be sheltered and given soft minutes, which is the most you can ask a coach to do when it comes to rookies.

If, 10 games in, Hall is struggling in the NHL, I do hope that the Oilers send him down. But if he looks comfortable, is playing his game effectively, and putting up respectable points for a rookie, there is no reason to send him down.

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#59 Doogie2K
September 21 2010, 09:35AM
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@Alan

The Corsi numbers show exactly what they're supposed to: the Oilers got hemmed in their own zone for nearly four minutes. Would you not agree that that's a poor way to play a hockey game, regardless of whether the puck went in the net or not?

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#60 VMR
September 21 2010, 09:40AM
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@Archaeologuy

I think it would be a waste giving Omark limited ice time as the 13/14. Send him to Oklahoma, let him get used to NA ice and style of play and call him up if they need someone to fill in. He's better off playing than he is sitting and watching.

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#61 VMR
September 21 2010, 09:42AM
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Doogie2K wrote:

The Corsi numbers show exactly what they're supposed to: the Oilers got hemmed in their own zone for nearly four minutes. Would you not agree that that's a poor way to play a hockey game, regardless of whether the puck went in the net or not?

What's worse being penned in your own zone for a long period but not giving up a scoring chance or getting the puck out of your zone quickly by giving up a goal and getting a faceoff at center ice? Corsi tells you one thing, where the puck was, it doesnt say what was happening in that time.

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#62 Wanye
September 21 2010, 10:03AM
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For some reason the prospect of Shawn Belle playing for the Oil gets me excited.

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#63 Mike
September 21 2010, 10:08AM
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I don't see what the huge fuss over shawn belle is, the other depth D-man signing tambo made, Richard Petiot, had twice as many points in the AHL last year and 3 points in his ten game NHL cup fo coffee as opposed to Belle's 1 point in as many games.

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#64 D-Man
September 21 2010, 10:17AM
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@Cervantes

Not sure I agree with you on rotating all 4 guns like you suggest... All need regular ice time to develop... Unless one continues to struggle - there's isn't any value sitting and watching in the press box. Although I don't agree with O'Mara as the 14th forward - my thought is that job belongs to Liam Reddox or Giroux (until Jacques is healthy) - Hall, MPS and Eberle stay and Omark plays 25 to 30 games in the AHL. If he is as good as he's shown so far - he should be sitting with 20 to 30 points in OKC. At that point - Tambi should be able to make some roster space open for him with a trade or a cut (can you say Ryan Jones)??

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#65 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
September 21 2010, 11:01AM
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Wanye wrote:

For some reason the prospect of Shawn Belle playing for the Oil gets me excited.

Really throws a wrench into everything, does it not?

Is there any chance the Oil will send Pekcham to the AHL?

If so is there any chance of both him and Belle making this team as long as Strudwick is under contract?

Maybe they place Vandermeer on waivers or make him the pressbox man?

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#66 Ender
September 21 2010, 11:37AM
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Slightly unrelated, but has anyone else checked out the rosters for the Joey Moss Cup tonight? I'm predicting Team Blue wins this handily.

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#67 David S
September 21 2010, 11:42AM
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Wanye wrote:

For some reason the prospect of Shawn Belle playing for the Oil gets me excited.

...for "Exciting last place hockey®".

Fixed.

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#68 Max Powers - Team HME Evans
September 21 2010, 11:45AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

I don't know what the hard-on in Edmonton for Belle is all about.

The guy got in 2 games on an injury riddled defense that had O'brien/MAB/Hall Gill playing 2nd pairing minutes.

Subban didn't even get called up during the regular season and he looks like a pretty good hockey player. That's 2 more regular season call-ups for Belle last year.

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#69 fuck off
September 21 2010, 12:22PM
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Ender wrote:

Slightly unrelated, but has anyone else checked out the rosters for the Joey Moss Cup tonight? I'm predicting Team Blue wins this handily.

Do you know who's coaching either team? Or are they going to run old school 1-2-3-4? As long as the coaching isn't Renney vs Quinn team White is going to dominate! White's 4th line is almost as good as either team's 2nd line! Especially with Fraiser as Blue's 2C.

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#70 fuck off
September 21 2010, 01:04PM
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Max Powers - Team HME Evans wrote:

Subban didn't even get called up during the regular season and he looks like a pretty good hockey player. That's 2 more regular season call-ups for Belle last year.

Subban was also playing Junior and not available for call up except after their season was done, no?

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#71 Deep Oil
September 21 2010, 01:38PM
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@Ryan14

@RYAN14

Do the Oilers have the will to send him down after all the hype, just to release control of their asset to a non related company, noting the drop in immediate jersey sales.... this has alternative revenue stream issues, not just burning a year of his entry level contract.

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#72 Andrew W
September 21 2010, 01:52PM
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The only possibility I see for something unexpected happening with the roster would be a wire pick up of a veteran forward. Somebody might become available, and perhaps even at half-price on re-entries, that could fill the need for a defensive minded centre. If it's such a gaping need on this team that O'Marra is a candidate, the odds seem good that somebody better might open up from another team.

*Can I really say that this would be unexpected if I'm guessing it might happen?

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#73 Ender
September 21 2010, 02:23PM
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@fuck off

Anything that White's 4th line might score, White's goaltending is going to give back with interest.

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#74 It's Hall Over!!
September 21 2010, 03:42PM
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Lowetide wrote: "But this camp looks predictable from here. I can't see this year's Ryan Stone in there. Can you?"

A career AHL player with 0 career NHL goals. I actually see a lot of guys that fit that description.

Why does everybody love Stone so much? He was probably slower then Laraque ever was and is much slower then Stortini or Macintyre. The guy was let go for a reason.

I hope the Oilers don't have another Stone, because that simply means they have a very suspect AHL player on their NHL roster.

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#75 Max Powers - Team HME Evans
September 21 2010, 05:39PM
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fuck off wrote:

Subban was also playing Junior and not available for call up except after their season was done, no?

He played 77 games in the AHL last year.

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#76 Max Powers - Team HME Evans
September 21 2010, 05:45PM
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@It's Hall Over!!

So why was this 'suspect' AHL player scooped up early in the off season when people like Mike Comrie waited all summer to accept a minimum contract? I also 'suspect' that the managers in the NHL know a little more about the players in the NHL than you do. Unless you are a top level manager for an NHL team (madjam???) then that's what i though.

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#77 MountainManMatt
September 22 2010, 05:15PM
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If O'marra and Peckham make the team I will be really surprised. Both are way too slow. My money is on Belle to beat out Peckham. Giroux, Omark and Reddox are all better options than O'marra. Omark and Giroux are offensive guys and considering the top six (or top nine depending on how many scoring lines you think the oilers should roll with) is looking pretty full, I'm betting Reddox will make it. Reddox's consistency and versatility will earn him a spot.

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