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Lowetide
January 22 2011 08:37AM

Jeff Petry's independent scouting reports never matched the over the top verbal coming from the Oilers. That disconnect caused some of us (well, me) to miss the boat in regard to the long, tall Michigander. It's time to call uncle, because this kid would appear to have the toolkit, the brain and the desire.

Over the years I've monitored Oiler prospects over at Lowetide. The general idea is to take independent scouting reports, marry them to math (Desjardins equivalencies) and then track these prospects against players who have come before a specific prospect. I always look for a player of a similar age and one who has played at the same level at that age.

In regard to Petry, we never did get a very good outside scouting report. Maybe that was the key. The best scouting report I saw was from Guy Flaming at Coming Down the Pipe:

  • "Petry is a smart two-way defenseman who is an excellent skater with good mobility, which he uses to shut down opponents. The 6’2.5, 176-pound Petry plays with an edge and can lay out some good hits. He also doesn’t mind battling in front of the net. Offensively, Petry has a cannon for a point shot, but often uses a wrist shot as well so that it does not get blocked and does not allow the goaltender to set up. Petry also uses his skating and stick skills to make accurate passes out of the zone or to skate the puck up himself, which he has the speed and stickhandling to do."

Petry quickly became Flaming's #1 prospect (article here) but I kept reading items about skating and consistency. His college coach Rick Gormley:

  •  "I thought that on some nights he was our best player and other nights, he played more like a freshman."

Added to his skating, I felt there were better prospects in the system. I want to be clear about this: I wasn't dumping on Petry, he was in around #7 on most of my winter lists after his draft day:

The 2010 ranking has more to do with the enormous 2010 entry draft than anything Petry did wrong. Anyway, as you can see I never did rank Petry at the top (as Flaming did all down the line).

Why? Well, I've kind of answered it above but want to go into a little more detail. There were three main reasons:

  • He was old for a prospect by the time he turned pro. Petry turned 23 years old after game 26 of his first full AHL season. Petry is the same age as Theo Peckham, he's 6 months younger than Andrew Cogliano. Jeff Petry is 20 months older than Sam Gagner. Ladislav Smid is about 2 years older than Jeff Petry and is currently in his 5th NHL season.
  • The skating issues and the college coach. I think the Oilers have had a strong enough group through these years that two negatives would imo disqualify anyone from the top spot.
  • The source of the positive verbal--and I mean no disrespect to Guy Flaming or anyone associated with the Edmonton Oilers--was usually Kevin Prendergast. Now, I've written a bunch about Kevin Prendergast over the years and I do think his draft record is much better than he's been given credit for by fans and critics. However, KP loved all of his picks and they were all splendid and going to the HHOF one day. He was not a credible source for Oiler prospects, and I suspect much of what Guy was telling us came from KP or another Oiler scout. That's why I try to acquire outside sources.

Having said all of that, uncle. The young man looks calm, cool and collected. He's talented, can skate very well and has the look of a guy who will help his team win for years to come.

Good for him.

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#1 AlbertaMan
January 22 2011, 08:43AM
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I've always been excited about Petry, but he has exceeded my expectations since being called up.

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#2 Quicksilver ballet
January 22 2011, 09:40AM
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Jeff has pleasantly become another one of the few bright spots to enjoy this season. I'm afraid to think of what we would be watching if it wasn't for this crop of first year NHL'ers in our lineup.

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#3 Dennis
January 22 2011, 10:15AM
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Hard to believe there were ever any skating issues with the kid because he pretty much glides.

The first thing I noticed different about him was how he'd hold onto the puck on the blue and change the angle so his shot wouldn't get blocked. You might not think that's a big thing but I've got years of experience of watching bad Oilers hockey to tell you that it was a welcomed change.

Then we saw how he can use his stick to break up plays and now what's left is how much stronger he gets and how much smarter he gets in his own end as he learns the league and players.

The kid looks to be the best young dman we've since since that awful awful man Tom Gilbert.

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#4 David S
January 22 2011, 12:54PM
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@NateInVegas wrote:

I'd like to say something about Petry but the only thing I can think of is..

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With all the sponsors any chance of mixing in new features to the Nation?

"I git" why they are here, but they cover half the page and it's a bit much, no?

I don't mind the ads because we get ROBIN BROWNLEE, JASON GREGOR, LOWETIDE, JONATHAN WILLIS...

I guess if you really don't like all the ads, the alternative would be SITE SUBSCRIPTION FEE.

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#5 IceDragoon
January 22 2011, 11:13AM
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Good day.

Petry has a big brain and calm feet. That's two of my favourite assets right there. His smart reads show in the little adjustments he makes, as Dennis noted above.

I've also noticed Smid deferring to Petry the more they play together. This is a really good sign, imho. For one thing, it shows that Smid has a little more intelligence than the bag of sand in my trunk. And... it shows me that Petry believes he belongs and can be a difference maker in the NHL. This trust in himself accompanied by his smart play instills trust in his teammates.

I initially wanted Petry to play a full year in the A. He's here now, so give him his at bats. It would be nice if we had some shelter for him and the other kids, tho.

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#6 Archaeologuy
January 22 2011, 02:15PM
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vitamind wrote:

Jeff Petry will be a perfect fit to take Tom Gilbert's job.

OR, what if Petry took Vandermeer's job? At least Strudwick's job. THEN when we've purged the worst defensemen we can start on replacing the next tier of guys.

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#7 TigerUnderGlass
January 22 2011, 03:21PM
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edmontoncritic - BRoadwAY wrote:

Sorry, not really at you, just tambo haters....

Thats the thing, we arent trying to make the playoffs this year, its next year as you say. CLB, FLA, NYI never got more than 1 top 3 pick. Everyone wants to be CHI,WSH or PIT.....well they tanked it HARD! Years of being awful...we are successfully completing this mission.

Tambo easily could have spent our cap space this year and finished in 8-12th. The goal on the outside of this is to be elite, not just making the playoffs.

That being said, next year the team needs to finish with a sniff at minimum and the following year needs to easily make the playoffs. I think he should be judged on signings in summer as well as what gets done with 27,83,13,89,28.

So Chicago and Pittsburgh dressed a lineup of kids and scrubs did they?

Penguins during Crosby's first year also included:

Gonchar Recchi Leclair Palffy Mario freaking Lemieux In fact, they played 16 different players 30 or older during the year.

Balckhawks during Kane and Toews rookie season included:

Lang Perrault LaPointe Sopel Samsonov Havlat Vandermeer Jason Williams

The point here is that these teams didn't just up and say "screw it we are drafting players and nothing else" They played veterans alongside their youth to fill out the roster and to teach them how to play.

I would actually argue that these teams were successful because they didn't simply tank and pray. They tried to fill out the roster around their youth, while the other teams you mentioned did not.

I would also argue a lot of luck was involved.

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#8 edmontoncritic - BRoadwAY
January 22 2011, 08:03PM
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forestscooter wrote:

This is getting exciting. Finish last and draft Larsson. We have Whitney, Larsson, Gilbert, Peckam, Petry, a few veterans and prospects. Sounds like a defense. Add our second round picks and we have a team.. please develop these players properly !! NHL and otherwise.

Yes!!! Dont forget about Marincin....beast!

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#9 neojanus
January 22 2011, 08:46AM
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Petry looks stronger out there than most of the veteran presence on the blue-line.

Nice to see he and Peckham take some control and define themselves this year.

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#10 The Beaker
January 22 2011, 08:46AM
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At least it looks like he is another piece of the puzzle for us... which is good because that means we have one less thing to rely on Tambellini for this summer and trade deadline day.

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#11 spOILer
January 22 2011, 08:52AM
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I remember that being the problem over the years... that we just never heard enough about this guy. And IIRC some guys would go on about Petry gonna be better than Chorney and you would say wait a minute, how do we know that. But where are you getting the skating issue from? I see no source for that being a concern. The coach doesnt mention it in his quote and Guy compliments his skating, so why was that one of the fist issues?

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#12 EasyOil
January 22 2011, 09:08AM
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As spOILer said LT, where were these concerns about his skating? I'd always heard he was an excellent skater!

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#13 @NateInVegas
January 22 2011, 09:38AM
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I'd like to say something about Petry but the only thing I can think of is..

OODLE NOODLE, THE PINT,BOSTON PIZZA,ORIGINAL JOE'S,ONTHEROCKS,IDENTITY CLOTHING,RIVERCREE,& Herbal Magic...

With all the sponsors any chance of mixing in new features to the Nation?

"I git" why they are here, but they cover half the page and it's a bit much, no?

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#15 edmontoncritic - BRoadwAY
January 22 2011, 09:41AM
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The Beaker wrote:

At least it looks like he is another piece of the puzzle for us... which is good because that means we have one less thing to rely on Tambellini for this summer and trade deadline day.

Ok so Tambo did a bad job at what again??

1) getting rid of ethan moreau without buying out? 2) getting rid of P.O.S without a buyout? 3) getting a Player and a 3rd round pick for steve effin staois????? 4) dumping loser souray to ride the bus for a year and then he WILL get a good return this summer for him 5)getting a credit buy buying out 12!!! Lol

Now the battlecry for haters has been khabibulin, WHO CARES? We want to finish last again in case you didnt notice. Is Dubnyk developing.....yes, confidenly unlike we did to JDD.

Please tell me what Tambos done wrong cause obviously im missing something

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#17 tommyjr26
January 22 2011, 09:45AM
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so....Petry's NHL comparable player?

Goligoski (Pitt)?

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#18 @NateInVegas
January 22 2011, 09:49AM
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Safe bet the Oilers will use the #31 pick on a defenceman?

I've used Matt Carle for a comparable.. (Petry plays a bit tougher)

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#19 The Beaker
January 22 2011, 09:49AM
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@edmontoncritic - BRoadwAY

Actually, did I say Tambo has done a horrible job? No. I said it's one less piece we need to rely on him getting. Whether you think hes done a good job or not is irrelevant. Filling in all the gaps this team has at the moment enough to get us back into the playoffs next year (which should be the goal) is a big job no matter who the GM is. With how things have worked out so far I dont see Tambo being able to pull it off. I won't say he was wrong to bring in Foster, Fraser, Khabibulin but that the pieces he has brought in havent worked out. I don't have faith that everything he brings in the future will work out either. I dont think hes done terrible, I don't think hes been outstanding either.

Way to jump the gun.

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#20 spOILer
January 22 2011, 10:16AM
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"Skates well for his size" seems like an awfully tenuous justification for nicking a player who was named USHL defenceman of the year and USA Hockey Jr. Player of the year after being drafted. Seems unlikely these accolades would go to a poor skater. Flaming calls him an excellent skater and MSU game reviews sometimes referred to him as "smooth" skating Jeff Petry. I think THN had him as a strong skater. And nowhere does anyone come out and specifically state skating is an issue. But I think we went over all this a few rankings ago when you first raised the skating bugbear, LT.

A few more things about Petry (because there isn't much out there):

-He also won the hardest shot competition at the USHL all star game (@ 18 yo). -He was reknowned for his shot-blocking at MSU. -Prendergrast once 'criticized' Petry for not jumping up into the play enough in his Freshman year.

Petry's Profile Page at MSU.

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#21 spOILer
January 22 2011, 10:26AM
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From the comments of LT's Dec 07 rankings, OilnAmerica said...

Also in regards to his footspeed, he is an extremely good skater for anyone's size. At Edmonton's prospect camp this summer, Petry's forward skating time was 4th among all prospects and he was the fastest skater backwards at the camp.

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#22 oilerman53
January 22 2011, 10:49AM
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I like his abilities to use that long, long Tom Poti-Esque stick and be strong with it. Unlike Tom Poti, this guys has an edge to his game. He's been an awfully nice surprise on a team that's been just plain awful most nights. His angles on his shots are better then most of the tee it up and drive it wide shooters we have on this team. Would it kill Foster to actually get the shot on net? At least with Souray his shots went towards the net, Foster see's the Tim Hortons logo on the boards and tries to break it most nights.

Petry is coming along nicely, with him and Teddy Peckman this team looks like it's getting some nice shutdown d-men with mean streaks. If these two continue developing then there might not be no need for Smid to stay around and have him as part of a package for something we can use.

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#23 jake
January 22 2011, 10:53AM
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"The first thing I noticed different about him was how he'd hold onto the puck on the blue and change the angle so his shot wouldn't get blocked. You might not think that's a big thing but I've got years of experience of watching bad Oilers hockey to tell you that it was a welcomed change."

I agree, a big thing and that is what I liked about Grebeshkov (the times when he actually kept it inside the blueline).

So far so good with Petry, nice surprise so far.

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#24 speeds
January 22 2011, 11:00AM
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@NateInVegas wrote:

Safe bet the Oilers will use the #31 pick on a defenceman?

I've used Matt Carle for a comparable.. (Petry plays a bit tougher)

No, I don't think it's a safe bet. One could easily have sugested the same about last year's #31 OV (EDM drafted F Pitlick), or the 40th overall the year prior (EDM drafted F Lander), yet they took a forward both times in spite of the perceived organizational weakness at D.

One could arguably make a case that EDM has less of a "need" to draft D this year than they did last, what with the progression of Petry and Peckham both a bit better and/or faster than many expected, along with the great play of the 3 2010 D draftees:

Marincin (46 OV, 2nd round) 41GP 11G 32A for 43 pts, +3

Blain (91 OV, 4th round) 18GP 1G 17A for 18pts, +16

Davidson (1 OV, 6th round) 46GP 5G 26A for 31 pts, -3

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#25 speeds
January 22 2011, 11:02AM
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That should be 162 OV for Davidson, not 1 OV, of course.

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#26 spOILer
January 22 2011, 11:09AM
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I think Petry probably has limited offense but will contribute. Maybe a 2nd unit PP guy over the long run but can fill in where and when needed. Despite the big shot and the good angles he's always been more of an assist machine. He probably doesn't hit enough or hard enough for the shutdown guys who think only in the Hannan-Komisarek mode...

But he looks like a very useful big minutes logger with decent offense and defense. Another one of these all-rounders types, somewhere between Whitney and Gilbert.

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#27 speeds
January 22 2011, 11:10AM
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That isn't to suggest that EDM won't draft a D at 31 OV, they may well. I'm just saying that their recent draft history suggests to me they will take a player who doesn't fill a need, in the early 2nd round, if they feel that player is the best available.

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#28 Quicksilver ballet
January 22 2011, 11:24AM
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Here's a great example of intimidation altering performance, poor Sammy Gagner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwYMvKztLVQ&hd=1

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#29 Wanye
January 22 2011, 11:25AM
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Great breakdown LT. The one upside of a season like 2010-11 is that players who wouldn't ordinarily see the light of day are given a ton of quality NHL ice time. In some instances - like with Petry - this supercharges their development and an entirely new player emerges.

Good for him indeed.

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#30 andrewmk20
January 22 2011, 11:37AM
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@tommyjr26

I would say he's more of the Dan Hanhuis, Brandon Gormley type in watching him play. Very simple and he always does what is necessary instead of something flashy. If hitting someone to seperate him from the puck is the optimum play then he does so, if it's best to back up and cut the angle so he can force the forward to the outside he does so. He doesn't seem elite in any one category but does a lot of good things. Like the scouting report said about him he hits well, skates well, passes the puck well, has a very good shot, and has good positioning in his own end.

And 23 doesn't seem old for a defenceman. Tom Gilbert was 24 when he finally played his first full season. It will take him time but it seems he and the rest of the trio of dmen that were drafted in 2005 and 2006 drafts (Chorney & Peckham) look like they can fill spots. Chorney is especially surprising given how he's struggled in the pro leagues. But as a 5-6 dmen he's looked better than Foster/Vandemeer mostly due to foot speed. Although it's been a small sample so far this season. But if he keeps playing as well as he has Chorney looks like he could be a reliable bottom pairing defenceman who can eat some PP time.

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#31 Archaeologuy
January 22 2011, 11:40AM
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Is anyone else thinking to themselves, "why bother?" after hearing that the Islanders claimed Nabokov off waivers? Unless they turn around and trade him for a pick at the deadline, what good comes from possibly winning a couple more games at this stage in the season? They're almost 20 points out of a playoff spot.

I'm thinking that Snow is feeling the pressure. He doesnt last until the draft. My prediction.

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#32 IceDragoon
January 22 2011, 11:46AM
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@Quicksilver ballet

Interesting perspective.

Looks like he's playing hurt, to me.

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#33 Quicksilver ballet
January 22 2011, 11:47AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Is anyone else thinking to themselves, "why bother?" after hearing that the Islanders claimed Nabokov off waivers? Unless they turn around and trade him for a pick at the deadline, what good comes from possibly winning a couple more games at this stage in the season? They're almost 20 points out of a playoff spot.

I'm thinking that Snow is feeling the pressure. He doesnt last until the draft. My prediction.

The kind of pressure that Hemsky and Gagner for that first selection or John Tavares would alleviate? With Hemsky being often injured and the stagnation of Gagner maybe that wouldn't be such a good deal for the Isles afterall.

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#34 @NateInVegas
January 22 2011, 11:49AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Is anyone else thinking to themselves, "why bother?" after hearing that the Islanders claimed Nabokov off waivers? Unless they turn around and trade him for a pick at the deadline, what good comes from possibly winning a couple more games at this stage in the season? They're almost 20 points out of a playoff spot.

I'm thinking that Snow is feeling the pressure. He doesnt last until the draft. My prediction.

It's my understanding that NYI can't trade Nabokov without putting him on waivers 1st.

Either way if he gets the Islanders a few more wins it helps the Oilers, GO BOB GO!

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#35 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 22 2011, 12:04PM
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edmontoncritic - BRoadwAY wrote:

Ok so Tambo did a bad job at what again??

1) getting rid of ethan moreau without buying out? 2) getting rid of P.O.S without a buyout? 3) getting a Player and a 3rd round pick for steve effin staois????? 4) dumping loser souray to ride the bus for a year and then he WILL get a good return this summer for him 5)getting a credit buy buying out 12!!! Lol

Now the battlecry for haters has been khabibulin, WHO CARES? We want to finish last again in case you didnt notice. Is Dubnyk developing.....yes, confidenly unlike we did to JDD.

Please tell me what Tambos done wrong cause obviously im missing something

I always get a kick out of people that give him credit for getting rid of players.

Anyone can hit the waiver wire/buyout button people. It really isn't that impressive.

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#36 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
January 22 2011, 12:06PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Is anyone else thinking to themselves, "why bother?" after hearing that the Islanders claimed Nabokov off waivers? Unless they turn around and trade him for a pick at the deadline, what good comes from possibly winning a couple more games at this stage in the season? They're almost 20 points out of a playoff spot.

I'm thinking that Snow is feeling the pressure. He doesnt last until the draft. My prediction.

pesky cba poops all over your "turn around and trade him theory"

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#37 John Chambers
January 22 2011, 12:08PM
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@Archaeologuy

What's the harm in adding more talent? The price is right. Perhaps NYI might try and talk him into a longer deal if he's a good fit.

I disagree about Snow. He's added quality FA's like Streit and Wisniewski, and picked up Grabner off waivers. The Isles did some nice dancing at the draft a few years ago to pick Calvin de Haan.

Assuming they add Couturier or Landeskog at the draft, they're only two more awful years away from fielding a highly competitive team ... albeit with DiPietro in net.

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#38 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 22 2011, 12:10PM
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Nothing against Petry, but I bet if we roll back three years we'd see the same things said about Gilbert, go back a few years before that and you can swap Gilbert/Petry out with Poti.

We all know how Poti ended, and Gilbert seems destined to end.

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#39 John Chambers
January 22 2011, 12:12PM
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Earlier in the year everyone was bemoaning our lack of depth on D ... especially with the poor performances of Gilbert and Vandermeer on that God awful Eastern road trip.

Funny how with Peckham and now Petry we all of a sudden boast a strong pool of quality young D. A year from now, when the young guys all have a year and a half under their belts, this team is going to look poised to make some noise ...

Except for in goal. That Khabbi contract will have to get buried or something. Hopefully we'll be fortunate to have a G of Nabokov's calibre come sailing to us for free around that time.

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#40 John Chambers
January 22 2011, 12:18PM
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@OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

Poti has had a 12+ year NHL career as a 3-4. He's also allergic to everything. I'd be happy with that trajectory for Petry, wouldn't you?

Can anyone remind me why we hated Poti so much again? Was it because he turned the puck over in our own end too much? I remember Rod Phillips had a strong distaste for the boy.

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#41 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 22 2011, 12:27PM
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John Chambers wrote:

Poti has had a 12+ year NHL career as a 3-4. He's also allergic to everything. I'd be happy with that trajectory for Petry, wouldn't you?

Can anyone remind me why we hated Poti so much again? Was it because he turned the puck over in our own end too much? I remember Rod Phillips had a strong distaste for the boy.

Nothing wrong with Poti! (or Gilbert for that matter). As you said, he had a long, solid NHL career (as I'm sure Gilbert will have and Petry may have)

However, the bi-polar Oiler fan base quickly ran Poti out of town as soon as it was clear he wasn't a top 2 guy, Gilbert is well on his way.

I think you know where I'm going with this.

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#42 Archaeologuy
January 22 2011, 12:36PM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

pesky cba poops all over your "turn around and trade him theory"

it sure does...makes less sense to me given that

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#43 BarryS
January 22 2011, 12:51PM
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Nabokov won't report to island.

Wants to be on contender.

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#44 vitamind
January 22 2011, 01:31PM
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Jeff Petry will be a perfect fit to take Tom Gilbert's job.

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#45 Archaeologuy
January 22 2011, 02:11PM
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BarryS wrote:

Nabokov won't report to island.

Wants to be on contender.

Looks like Snow misjudged that one...Who knew he wouldnt want to play on one of the worst teams in the league?

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#46 edmontoncritic - BRoadwAY
January 22 2011, 02:50PM
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The Beaker wrote:

Actually, did I say Tambo has done a horrible job? No. I said it's one less piece we need to rely on him getting. Whether you think hes done a good job or not is irrelevant. Filling in all the gaps this team has at the moment enough to get us back into the playoffs next year (which should be the goal) is a big job no matter who the GM is. With how things have worked out so far I dont see Tambo being able to pull it off. I won't say he was wrong to bring in Foster, Fraser, Khabibulin but that the pieces he has brought in havent worked out. I don't have faith that everything he brings in the future will work out either. I dont think hes done terrible, I don't think hes been outstanding either.

Way to jump the gun.

Sorry, not really at you, just tambo haters....

Thats the thing, we arent trying to make the playoffs this year, its next year as you say. CLB, FLA, NYI never got more than 1 top 3 pick. Everyone wants to be CHI,WSH or PIT.....well they tanked it HARD! Years of being awful...we are successfully completing this mission.

Tambo easily could have spent our cap space this year and finished in 8-12th. The goal on the outside of this is to be elite, not just making the playoffs.

That being said, next year the team needs to finish with a sniff at minimum and the following year needs to easily make the playoffs. I think he should be judged on signings in summer as well as what gets done with 27,83,13,89,28.

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January 22 2011, 03:04PM
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Not quite, people were making heavy expectations on Gilbert in 2007. As many posters have said many expected him to be a no.2 offensive dman. But he was never said to have any physicality to his game and never showed any. Petry has show a smart physical game and a willingness to hit whereas Gilbert never did. Also I think expectations should be tempered on Petry. At this point he shouldn't considered a future top pairing dman though as he is young and lacks experience. As of right now he's looking like a perfect no.3. He's played around 22 mins per game with ease and shows himself to be very well rounded.

Gilbert isn't well rounded though. He's a solid skater who is a capable puck mover. On a team with good defensive depth I see him taking a role like Mike Van Ryn did in Toronto (where Van Ryn played very well). A bottom 3 role who takes some PP time. Ditto goes for Poti. It seems that just because both are big (Gilbert is 6'3 206 and Poti is 6'3 215) that they are expected to be physical and that was never part of their game.

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January 22 2011, 03:05PM
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Ok so that applies to Moreau and 12. What about Staios, Jones, not panicking on souray? How about finally having a competitive farm team (or even having our own to begin with)? A rebuild starts at the bottom, the last thing we should see is having a good team in the oilers. Sustainability comes from the farm. Signing Giroux, Belle, Gerber were all great moves so that the young guys don't come up as losers like we always had before.

Bad moves : 35 ...granted but off the books when we need the money 26 - 1.8 is nothing. Check out some other duds; Sarich, Redden, Commodore. Much worse off, we only have 26 for another year

16 - .825 is hardly anything to care about. Also off next year

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Not quite, people were making heavy expectations on Gilbert in 2007. As many posters have said many expected him to be a no.2 offensive dman. But he was never said to have any physicality to his game and never showed any. Petry has show a smart physical game and a willingness to hit whereas Gilbert never did. Also I think expectations should be tempered on Petry. At this point he shouldn't considered a future top pairing dman though as he is young and lacks experience. As of right now he's looking like a perfect no.3. He's played around 22 mins per game with ease and shows himself to be very well rounded.

Gilbert isn't well rounded though. He's a solid skater who is a capable puck mover. On a team with good defensive depth I see him taking a role like Mike Van Ryn did in Toronto (where Van Ryn played very well). A bottom 3 role who takes some PP time. Ditto goes for Poti. It seems that just because both are big (Gilbert is 6'3 206 and Poti is 6'3 215) that they are expected to be physical and that was never part of their game.

We'll mark this down and re-vist it in 3 years when the boo birds are buying Petry's plane ticket out of town.

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