FRESH MEAT: TEUBERT DEBUT IN TINSELTOWN

Robin Brownlee
November 02 2011 02:07PM

While the obvious storyline is that Colten Teubert will have some extra motivation in his NHL debut at the Staples Center Thursday against the team that drafted him but traded him away before giving him a shot, I'm guessing he'll be far too busy trying to survive to follow that script.

Recalled from Oklahoma City by the Edmonton Oilers, Teubert will take his first shifts in The Show against the Los Angeles Kings, who selected the big blueliner 13th overall from the Regina Pats in 2008, but shipped him to Edmonton with a draft pick for Dustin Penner last February.

Unfortunately for Teubert, 21, his first opportunity to show Los Angeles GM Dean Lombardi he made a mistake -- Lombardi might have figured that out already with as bad as Penner has been in the City of Angels -- comes under trying circumstances.

The Oilers kick-off a six-game road swing on a five-game winning streak but with a defensive corps that's thinner than a cocaine-fuelled runway model. Suspended Andy Sutton is out of the mix, as are injured Ryan Whitney (knee sprain) and Cam Barker (shoulder).

It seems likely Teubert will take his first NHL shifts alongside Theo Peckham in Tom Renney's third defensive pairing behind the tandems of Tom Gilbert and Laddy Smid and Corey Potter and Jeff Petry.

Mercy.

TOUGH CURTAIN CALL

I'm intrigued by Teubert because he came over in the Penner trade billed as big, tough and nasty, but raw and with a long way to go to become a bona fide NHL defenseman. He strikes me as old-school. Might be the bent nose and missing teeth. First impression? I like him.

Unfortunately for Teubert and those hoping to see how and if he'd fit into the mix at training camp and pre-season, he didn't get much of a chance to show anything after getting starched in a scrap at that tournament in Penticton.

So now he'll get tossed into the deep end alongside Peckham, who is just finding his way back into the line-up, against the Kings. This is not going to be about proving Lombardi wrong.

If I'm Los Angeles coach Terry Murray, I'm using the last shift Thursday to throw Simon Gagne, Anze Kopitar and Justin Williams out against Peckham and Teubert every chance I get. Failing that, it's Scott Parse, Mike Richards and Dustin Brown.

Renney is going to have to play the wheels off Gilbert and Smid, and likely will, to avoid that match-up. It's not like the duo of Petry and Potter are ready to take much of the load against Murray's top six.

You're in, kid. Go get 'em.

DOG BITES MAN

Hands up everybody -- that means you, David Staples, and all the math guys in the front row of the class -- who is surprised that Penner is off to a brutal start with the Kings. Shocker.

Through nine games with Los Angeles, Penner has managed one assist and been a non-factor. For Lombardi, that would mean more of the same of the next-to-nothing he got from Penner after acquiring him from the Oilers last season -- 2-4-6 in 19 games.

While I'm sure there are some underlying numbers that show Penner has actually been very good and isn't playing like an unmotivated, under-performing dog instead of busting his ass to earn a fat new deal, I'll go with what meets the eye.

-- With Gagne out, Penner got a shot on the top line alongside Kopitar for two games, but did squat. He was the only Kings forward who didn't get a shot on goal in a loss to Colorado. Penner will likely see duty on the third line with former Oiler Jarret Stoll and Brad Richardson.

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#1 Al Davis
November 02 2011, 02:11PM
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Very excited to see Teubert's fist NHL game. With that being said, I think Khabby's going to have to stand on his head.

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#2 LoDog
November 02 2011, 02:13PM
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Excited to see Teubert play, he is the type of dman fans love here in Edmonton.

Big test tomorrow, should be fun to watch.

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#3 Shredder
November 02 2011, 02:19PM
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I've always been a fan of Plante (reminds me a lot of Jason Smith)...but it's good to see another d-dman who can play a rugged style. I was really hoping to see the guy in training camp, but that was a big shot he took. Looking forward to seeing chemistry between him and Eberle (did you guys forget that they played together for Regina?)...I know it's not easy to see chemistry between a dman and a fwd...but I see Eberle helping the guy along...I mean he and Hall led the team last year and are playing like vets, and that's what vets do right?

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#4 godot10
November 02 2011, 02:22PM
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Conventional-by-the-book coaches hate Penner. He doesn't fit the mold. He is an outlier. He needs a coach with an open mind, like Quinn.

They hated Frank Mahovlich too.

Even though Carlyle hated him, he coaxed 30 goals out of Penner. Carlyle used him in a lot of ways. One a checking line occasionally. On a soft minutes line with Getzlaf and Perry mostly. And moving him up with Selanne when Kunitz was hurt.

Murray has never been a very good coach. Safe and predictable. Can't think outside-the-box.

For a guy who made Ethan Moreau his captain instead of Ryan Smyth, I don't think MacT has much credibility on the Penner issue.

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#5 Archaeologuy
November 02 2011, 02:23PM
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IT'S SPELLED G-A-G-N-E-R NOT G-A-G-N...oh...you were actually talking about Simon Gagne...carry on.

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#6 Max Powers - Team HME Evans
November 02 2011, 02:31PM
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So does Teubert go out and get in a scrap his frist game to make an impression? Or does he shy away based on what happened in Penticton?

My guess is, if he's allowed to, he'll scrap one of the other teams tougher guys. If not I'll bet he's been told to keep the gloves on... for now at least.

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#7 Mitch
November 02 2011, 02:34PM
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I like Teubert's overall game he does many things well, what strikes me most is he's a very emotional guy on the ice and a leader. The concern I have for him at this momment is his ability to read the play down low and getting beat wide. This is the correct call up we need the toughness in the lineup that raw emotion Tuebert will bring this element.

I also think it would be the correct move to make a claim on Matt Kassian.

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#8 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
November 02 2011, 02:36PM
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Really good to see Colten finally getting an opportunity. I think he could be the kind of kid that settles in at the level of competition around him.

Hope he's here long enough to get comfortable and see what this kid has. The over coached atmosphere here will overwhelm him his first few weeks, be great to see Tuebert without those coaching handcuffs on. Just trust the kid and let him play.

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#9 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
November 02 2011, 02:57PM
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The good news is I think Teubert puts a solid effort in against his old team.

The bad news is Penner will get a hat trick.

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#10 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
November 02 2011, 02:59PM
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Max Powers - Team HME Evans wrote:

So does Teubert go out and get in a scrap his frist game to make an impression? Or does he shy away based on what happened in Penticton?

My guess is, if he's allowed to, he'll scrap one of the other teams tougher guys. If not I'll bet he's been told to keep the gloves on... for now at least.

I don't see why Teubert has to go out and fight. He isn't a scrapper.

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#11 mayorpoop
November 02 2011, 02:59PM
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really liked Teubert when i saw him play at the World Junior level. i think you get what you see. a tough hard nosed SOB thats likes to play that way.

i agree totally with RB about his "old school" assessment. i am excited to see him play. my comparison would be KLowe....i hope he's that guy.

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#12 Jerk Store
November 02 2011, 03:07PM
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@mayorpoop

If he is close to as nasty as Lowe was he will be fine. Say what you want about Lowe as GM, but he made guys pay in front of the net, usually with the old 2x4s these guys used to sport. What Teubert does have is way more size - jury out on his skating. I am hoping he is Matt Greene 2.0 - that is a guy we really never did replace. A serviceable 5/6 with some teeth.

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#13 Robin Brownlee
November 02 2011, 03:07PM
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mayorpoop wrote:

really liked Teubert when i saw him play at the World Junior level. i think you get what you see. a tough hard nosed SOB thats likes to play that way.

i agree totally with RB about his "old school" assessment. i am excited to see him play. my comparison would be KLowe....i hope he's that guy.

If Teubert turns out to be as good as Kevin Lowe? That's not a bad comparison in terms of style -- plays nasty, not a lot of offence etc. A long way to go before then.

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#14 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
November 02 2011, 03:10PM
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Jerk Store wrote:

If he is close to as nasty as Lowe was he will be fine. Say what you want about Lowe as GM, but he made guys pay in front of the net, usually with the old 2x4s these guys used to sport. What Teubert does have is way more size - jury out on his skating. I am hoping he is Matt Greene 2.0 - that is a guy we really never did replace. A serviceable 5/6 with some teeth.

I'd say Sutton has now replaced Greene, hasn't he?

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#15 jimbones
November 02 2011, 03:21PM
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Robin did you miss Math 30? Penner's Relcorsi and zonestart cleary demonstrate that he is a overperformer.

Where do you get off using stat's like goals, assists, and shots to access the performance of a top 6 forward. Cleary this is a case of the coach not giving the player an opportunity to succeed.

What a terrible move by Tambi trading our star forward for a 1st and a propest.

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#16 BoBo Mar$
November 02 2011, 03:23PM
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I guess it doesn't matter how much off season work a team makes a guy like Penner do if his Give A Damn Is Busted, or in his case permanently set to off and so you get these type of results. If only someone had seen signs of this earlier.

Nice to see Teubert get a chance, to bad it's under these circumstances, hopefully he can shine anyways and make Lombardi look like the Dumb A$$ we know he is.

Also, we need more of Hordichuk, he may only play 5 seconds before he gets hurt and is out but at least he gives it his all. JK.

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#17 harp
November 02 2011, 03:24PM
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When in God's name is Hordichuk back, I haven't heard a darn thing and its been nearly 3 weeks now.

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#18 Kodiak
November 02 2011, 03:25PM
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So who's chirping now about how crazy it was to dump a "proven" player in Penner for a couple draft picks and Teubert now? The only thing Penner has proven is that he has no heart, determination or drive.

Here's to hoping Teubert holds his own and outplays Penner tomorrow. It shouldn't be that hard, should it?

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#19 A-Mc
November 02 2011, 03:25PM
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I don't view our defense as thin as this article suggests. Ryan Whitney hasn't made a mark this season with his injury and re-injury. Up until Renney told the D to start taking some shots, I didn't have much to say about Barker other than he looked disconnected most of the time. And Andy Sutton? well I'm legitimately sorry we'll be with out him for another 4 games.

In all honesty the D-Heros have been Smid, Gilbert and Potter IMO and Those core guys are still here, Healthy!

I think we're still in Good shape to have Teubert come in for his first NHL game. He probably shouldn't be feeling too much pressure and I Hope he makes a good appearance for his careers sake!

Simple rules for Teubert (in no particular order): 1. Block shots 2. Finish checks 3. No turn overs

I wish you GOOD LUCK Teubert!

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#20 Hat Pughes
November 02 2011, 03:31PM
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jimbones wrote:

Robin did you miss Math 30? Penner's Relcorsi and zonestart cleary demonstrate that he is a overperformer.

Where do you get off using stat's like goals, assists, and shots to access the performance of a top 6 forward. Cleary this is a case of the coach not giving the player an opportunity to succeed.

What a terrible move by Tambi trading our star forward for a 1st and a propest.

Wth??? did you just get here by mistake from FlamesNation where all the geeks use the statistics to: - defend the Flames ineptitude by showing they arent as bad as they appear; or - defend the Flames by showing they are better than the score indicated when they won.

Call me old school...and the only stat is W or L ... and like Pete Maher says it only matters when you say "Put it in the Win Column Babbbbyyyyy!"

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#21 A-Mc
November 02 2011, 03:34PM
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@Hat Pughes

I thought his post was written with Tongue in cheek.

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#22 Wax Man Riley
November 02 2011, 03:35PM
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Kodiak wrote:

So who's chirping now about how crazy it was to dump a "proven" player in Penner for a couple draft picks and Teubert now? The only thing Penner has proven is that he has no heart, determination or drive.

Here's to hoping Teubert holds his own and outplays Penner tomorrow. It shouldn't be that hard, should it?

I was dissing the Penner trade. I am now glad he is gone. Thank you Tambo.

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#23 Wax Man Riley
November 02 2011, 03:37PM
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Hat Pughes wrote:

Wth??? did you just get here by mistake from FlamesNation where all the geeks use the statistics to: - defend the Flames ineptitude by showing they arent as bad as they appear; or - defend the Flames by showing they are better than the score indicated when they won.

Call me old school...and the only stat is W or L ... and like Pete Maher says it only matters when you say "Put it in the Win Column Babbbbyyyyy!"

Sarcasm comprehension fail.

I think jimbones was being facetious on purpose.

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#24 Wax Man Riley
November 02 2011, 03:39PM
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Also, all of the sudden, the unforgivable Khabbi signing is looking pretty darn genius.

Hall 2010.

RNH 2011.

Best goaltender stats in the league. SUITBOHC.

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#25 Renato Pagnani
November 02 2011, 03:44PM
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Uhm, Hat, jimbones is joking.

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#26 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
November 02 2011, 03:45PM
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Halfway to page 2 already and no mention of a Horcoff or a Gagne trade yet....

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#27 nanaimo oil
November 02 2011, 03:45PM
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So it's the coaches fault that Penner is a dog? Whoever says that we should resign him when his contract is up is out to lunch. Goodbye and good riddance, just another Klowe mistake that Tambi fixed.

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#28 Max Powers - Team HME Evans
November 02 2011, 03:49PM
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@Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

I was more or less wondering aloud if they've told him not to drop the gloves. I just assume that he would want to assert himself while making an impression.

Hmmm... after checking out his stats it doesn't seem like there are a lot of PIM's there. I must be under the wrong impression of him.

I thought he was very Peckham-like when it came to toughness but it would appear, by the stats, that he's not a scrapper. Could have something to do with hearing about his toughness all the time coupled with the fact the only game I ever watched with him in he got into a scrap (Penticton).

Meh, my bad.

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#29 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
November 02 2011, 03:57PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Halfway to page 2 already and no mention of a Horcoff or a Gagne trade yet....

~why on earth would we mention a simon gagne trade on oilersnation?~

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#30 Dman09
November 02 2011, 03:57PM
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A-Mc wrote:

I don't view our defense as thin as this article suggests. Ryan Whitney hasn't made a mark this season with his injury and re-injury. Up until Renney told the D to start taking some shots, I didn't have much to say about Barker other than he looked disconnected most of the time. And Andy Sutton? well I'm legitimately sorry we'll be with out him for another 4 games.

In all honesty the D-Heros have been Smid, Gilbert and Potter IMO and Those core guys are still here, Healthy!

I think we're still in Good shape to have Teubert come in for his first NHL game. He probably shouldn't be feeling too much pressure and I Hope he makes a good appearance for his careers sake!

Simple rules for Teubert (in no particular order): 1. Block shots 2. Finish checks 3. No turn overs

I wish you GOOD LUCK Teubert!

I have to agree, I don't think people are giving the Dmen enough credit. Petry has a decent amount of experience since last season and Teubert has been seasoning for a while in the AHL. There is now reason to say that they want perform decently. I'm sure they wouldn't have recalled Teubert if he wasn't playing at a high level in the AHL. Peckham should regain some form from last year as well. Really not a bad situation. Now if they have another long term injury them we might have an issue as there really isn't much of an option after Teubert. I would like to see a deal with TOR for Franson. Omark/Gagner, Plante and a draft pick maybe for Frason and a draft pick.

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#31 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
November 02 2011, 03:57PM
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Kodiak wrote:

So who's chirping now about how crazy it was to dump a "proven" player in Penner for a couple draft picks and Teubert now? The only thing Penner has proven is that he has no heart, determination or drive.

Here's to hoping Teubert holds his own and outplays Penner tomorrow. It shouldn't be that hard, should it?

Well we've currently recieved 0 results from the trade either.

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#32 Hat Pughes
November 02 2011, 04:02PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

Sarcasm comprehension fail.

I think jimbones was being facetious on purpose.

Yes yes I know...was just baiting the Flame trolls on ON.

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#33 OilLeak
November 02 2011, 04:04PM
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I don't think Murray knows how to use Penner properly, no big deal. If he doesn't succeed in LA he'll still get a decent contract in free agency. Hell, the Oilers could use him on the tough minutes line with Smyth and Horcoff, that line would MASH!

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#34 OilLeak
November 02 2011, 04:09PM
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I haven't been watching Penner this year, and his play could very well be bad or he could be suffering from some very bad percentages. All that aside, I know that Penner will always be criticized by those who don't understand what a good hockey player looks like.

(Cue the response from the mouth breathers)

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#35 Sean17
November 02 2011, 04:17PM
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Teubert's a dud. Big size got him drafted. No hockey sense will make him a lifer in the AHL...

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#37 John Chambers
November 02 2011, 04:29PM
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Umm, why is there no "Penner Loves Hot Dogz" photo in this post?

Wanye!!!!!!!!

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#38 HORDY hears a who
November 02 2011, 04:32PM
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BoBo Mar$ wrote:

I guess it doesn't matter how much off season work a team makes a guy like Penner do if his Give A Damn Is Busted, or in his case permanently set to off and so you get these type of results. If only someone had seen signs of this earlier.

Nice to see Teubert get a chance, to bad it's under these circumstances, hopefully he can shine anyways and make Lombardi look like the Dumb A$$ we know he is.

Also, we need more of Hordichuk, he may only play 5 seconds before he gets hurt and is out but at least he gives it his all. JK.

Im so pumped for Colten "Time Bomb" Teubert to show us the goods and start smashing people. i think he should play just fine with peckham with his grit and peckmans commitment to the HUSTLE.

i say teubert and packman gets too pumped and decides to just fight each other then penner walks in gets punched in the face then brakes a toenail.

PS. @BoBo Mar$

if hordichuk was here and read your last comment he would F5 you then do a 5star frog splash for good measure then take you to timmys after since you're just kidding

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#39 michael
November 02 2011, 04:36PM
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Penner has underwhelmed.Again. Wow what a surprise. Sunshine and hotdogs. He'll retire a rich man and have a Stanley Cup to show for his career. Messier has 6 of them. HoF to go along with it. Penner in 10 years will be a footnote. Messier will remaun a legend. The difference? Heart. One has one and the other does not.

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#40 Archaeologuy
November 02 2011, 04:42PM
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OilLeak wrote:

I don't think Murray knows how to use Penner properly, no big deal. If he doesn't succeed in LA he'll still get a decent contract in free agency. Hell, the Oilers could use him on the tough minutes line with Smyth and Horcoff, that line would MASH!

I think there's something to this. Penner's game is something that doesnt appear to be a natural fit with NHL coaches. That's not to say his game is bad, just that he isnt a plug and play kind of performer.

MacT couldnt figure it out, Carlyle hated it, and now Murray is flabbergasted by it. We've all seen it though. There were long stretches here where he was the best Oiler on the ice.

Perhaps his true love of Hot Dog eating really has taken over from his passion for hockey.

I hope he figures it all out, just not against the Oilers.

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#42 A-Mc
November 02 2011, 04:51PM
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I felt like Penner had decided to turn things around and was showing some good effort on the ice - but then he got traded.

It appeared like it came as a surprise to him and that made me feel bad for him.

If he truly is one of those Odd players that needs a special kind of coach, and if Renney was THE type of coach for him, i cant help but feel bad for the guy.

.. but then i see how much he gets paid and well, i can't feel sorry for a millionaire for too long =D

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#43 Archaeologuy
November 02 2011, 04:54PM
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@Robin Brownlee

No, I suspect he wont. It's just too bad because there's a player in there somewhere.

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#44 Jerk Store
November 02 2011, 05:06PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

I'd say Sutton has now replaced Greene, hasn't he?

I suppose. I like what I have seen from him to date. Huge dude who is a decent skater Has played within himself and does have a mean streak. Downside he is 36 years old and this is his 8th NHL team - what haven't we seen yet?

While I see where you are going, Sutton is a very short term fix. Hopefully Teubert can have a little better career than Sutton has, but kudos for what Sutton has done this year. I know this is not a politically correct statement (and getting suspended during Shanny-palooza is not that difficult), but when was the last time an Oiler was suspended for any length of time? Never hurts to have one or two guys who play on the edge. Neanderthal thinking perhaps, but the Lady Byng approach the last few years has done nothing but get guys hurt and the Oil high draft choices.

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#45 OutDoorRink
November 02 2011, 05:18PM
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"There were long stretches here where he was the best Oiler on the ice."

By long stretches, do you mean 30 seconds every 4th or 5th game, because that was about it for Dustin. He'd stink for 4 games, then come on like King Kong for a shift or two, and then it'd be back to the usual which was pretty lame.

We all saw the flashes of what he could be when he's push the other teams defence around. The only problem was that those moments were more rare than a healthy Hemsky sighting.

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#46 John Chambers
November 02 2011, 05:28PM
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@Archaeologuy

Who's Pat Quinn coaching now? Maybe Penner should go play for him.

"Get on BOOOOOAAAAARD the D-Train!!!" - K Quinn. God those days were depressing.

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#47 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
November 02 2011, 05:49PM
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ummmm.....

WAY TO GO Al Davis

I see what you did there, props to you.

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#48 Jerk Store
November 02 2011, 05:53PM
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@Robin Brownlee

Always seems to be the "guys with all the tools and no toolbox". My "Penner" was Chad Kilger. Killed me several year in hockey pools when I'd take a flier on him. Guy was 6'4" and 220 lbs, crazy good skater, could shoot the puck 100 mph and just looked like a hockey player. But had the hockey sense of a Tibetan Monk. Penner's issues may be different and his stats are better than Kilgers, but there are always those guys who leave you wanting more ...... much more.

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#49 Westcoastoil
November 02 2011, 05:56PM
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While the sample size is very early, i hope they extend Potter sooner rather than later. As for Sutton, I've liked a lot of what he's brought so far - killed penalties, size and toughness and an even player. Big improvement to the 3rd pairing imo over Vandermeer. If he keeps it up unless we trade for a legit top 4 it seems to me he'd be good to keep around for another year until the young guys can push him out.

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#50 John Chambers
November 02 2011, 06:05PM
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@Westcoastoil

What do you think Potter is worth? How many more games do the Oilers need to evaluate him until they look to get something done?

Think 2 years, 1.8M is worth the risk? Does his agent have the coconuts to want more after a handful of games?

I smell a topic for a new post!

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