Another Kid in the Hall

Lowetide
November 27 2011 10:03AM

Taylor Hall's injury last night was a blow to all of Oilers Nation. The young guns have been feeling their oats all fall, and Hall--who was perhaps just a step behind RNH & Eberle--had "that look" of late. Oiler fans know that a goal scoring rampage often follows Hall's shifts into overdrive. Now, we wait. For the MRI and then the news of how long Hall will be out. One thing to remember: this bad news also brings opportunity.

THE NHL CANDIDATES

This fan was a couple wobbly pops in Saturday night when #4 was felled (Robin Brownlee has an excellent article on the Hall injury and last night's game here at ON. My only quibble would be that the Oilers were clearly gassed in period 3, so it was a game they were in tough to win no matter the circumstances) and the profanity around the LT house was not for the meek.

However, as day breaks (well, as midday breaks) it gives one a chance to think about current roster players who might benefit from Hall's bad fortune. If Taylor misses four weeks, which NHL forward will benefit the most?

  1. Magnus Paajarvi: Buddy has been in a funk all year, and some of that is due to playing with less skilled men. Still, some of this is on the player, and he certainly lacks confidence at this time. I could see coach Renney moving Paajarvi up to the top 6, possibly slotting him in with Horcoff and Hemsky. That's a soft landing for a struggling youngster, although Hemsky's ad-libbing can be a nightmare for youth (you may recall Hall's comments on playing with 83). If MP gets the opportunity, he needs to post some crooked numbers a-sap. That top 6 chance won't last long if the puck doesn't get past the goal line.
  2. Sam Gagner: Samwise has been doing some good things of late, finally coming alive after an injury filled and ineffective early fall. The problem: Gagner hasn't been effective at Hall's position (LW) in the past. It's unlikely coach Renney will move the RW's (Eberle and Hemsky) or the C's (RNH and Horcoff) so Hall's injury could in fact weaken Gagner's position in the short term.
  3. Ryan Jones: This might be the option that coach Renney goes with, as Jones has shown exceptional adaptability and is in fact becoming what Fernando Pisani used to be for the Oilers. By that I mean, Jones is the guy that coach Renney can put on a line and see good things happen. If Renney puts him with Horcoff and Smyth, that's a line that could do some heavy lifting. Jones is a definite possibility.

There are some other options, but those would be the three that I'd see as being likely. Ben Eager has in the past slipped up a line or two, but his subpar season so far makes him a distant option. Coach Renney clearly trusts Anton Lander, and the young Swede may also get a few spins at the position.

POSSIBLE BARONS

With the move up the depth chart for one of the bottom sixers, there's a chance Steve Tambellini reaches down to OKC and calls up a forward. Although that player is extremely unlikely to take Hall's place, a couple of weeks in the NHL and some 3rd or 4th line time could be in the offing. Here are some of the candidates.

  • Phil Cornet leads the AHL in goals (15 goals in 19 games) and has to at least be on the radar. He's a fascinating prospect, in that the Oilers haven't used him or talked about him as someone they see as a legit NHL option. Still, he's ripping up a damn good league, and someone has noticed and that's for sure.
  • Teemu Hartikainen has 8 goals and what's more is having some impact on the OKC powerplay. He's a big body and showed well during a cup of coffee last spring. Hartikainen would be my choice for recall, based on his nice range of skills and the fact that he shouldn't look out of place on the 4line. He might deliver more pep than someone like Eager, who still looks a little tentative after the pre-season concussion.
  • Gilbert Brule took his medicine and has played well in the AHL. The organization might prefer to keep him in the minors (waiver concerns, or a longer term approach to his career recovery) but he is a player who could step in and play at a certain level for the Oilers.
  • Hunter Tremblay leads the AHL in shorthanded goals (3) and has impressed his coach this season. You never know, he may never play in an NHL game. But there's a player here, and rewarding him with a recall might be an option.

FEARLESS PREDICTION

Those who follow my "reasonable expectations" series know I'm rarely wrong. In this case, my bet would be on the youngster Paajarvi getting the first at-bats. Coach Renney might feel this is a chance to get the young man some confidence and a goal or two.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

Taylor Hall's injury is extremely bad news. The young man has 30 goal power and no NHL team has the kind of depth required to plug and play that level of talent. The Edmonton Oilers do have some nice options, a reflection of their improved depth across the board. Stu MacGregor really is a magnificent bastard.

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#1 Tikktalk
November 27 2011, 10:14AM
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Fist good chance for MPS this year!

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#2 The Farmer
November 27 2011, 10:16AM
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His numbers may not show it , but I think 91 has looked more engaged the last three or four games when he has been in the lineup. Silver lining says this could be a blessing in disguise if 91 gets going, then hall gets back, should mean 3 solid scoring lines. Here's hoping anyway.

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#3 Big Cap
November 27 2011, 10:22AM
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Because of the Oil`s great start and the great play of the team, MPS has dodged a major fan backlash.

Though still very young and still learning the NA game, we cant get to down on him. HOWEVER, this is MPS big chance to step in and deliver as he will be given every chance to contribute.

I am confident with 2nd line linemates and ice time, he will deliver and put this first quarter behind him.

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#4 The Farmer
November 27 2011, 10:24AM
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Also, I would be curious what Colorado's all time record against teams on the backend of back to back games in their building is. Just a shot in the dark but I'm sure it's way higher than the league average. IMO the league should re think making teams go into Denver back to back.

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#5 Copperandblue
November 27 2011, 10:40AM
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So why don't we know the status of Hall. He wouldn't have come bak if his collarbone was broken. Is it a deep bruise or separated shoulder. Did they xray him in Denver? I heard MRI...anyone know?

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#6 Big Cap
November 27 2011, 10:43AM
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I am also VERY discouraged that after the hit that NOTHING was done. Yes, Pecks tried to step up and go right after him but it resulted in a goal. BUT where was Hordy?!?!?!?!?! He has talked a VERY big game thus far,but what has he accomplished??? Hords didnt force the issue with Wilson, he didnt even make a run at any of their best players like Duchene, O'reily, or Stasney. He played his regular shift up and down the wing all night. IMO, it was a GUTLESS preformance! Our future captain and franchise player gets knocked out of the game and NOTHING happens???

I would love to listen to the July interviews that Hordy proclaimed nothing would happen on his watch and if it did, he would make the other team pay...YEAH RIGHT!

What do you think the chances of Seguin getting hit like that and having nothing done?? Would Thornton just stand around?? No true heavyweight on any team woukd allow this on his watch!!

Hordichuk = Gutless and Useless!

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#7 GXL
November 27 2011, 10:58AM
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Could someone refresh my memory of what #4 said about playing with #83?

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#8 etownman
November 27 2011, 11:09AM
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Why would anybody consider breaking up the best offensive line on the team? Smytty, RNH & Eberle need to keep playing together! Jones, Belanger (who I thought looked good last night)& Gagner have played well the last couple games & were definately the best line last night, leave them together! Paajarvi is the guy who has had no PP or PK time this year! No quality 5 x 5 playing time in the top six, it's Paajarvi who deserves the opportunity to play with Horc & Hemmer! I thought in the brief time they played together last year Hemmer & MPS had some chemistry! One last thing also, with the amount of ice time MPS has had this year, I don't think he's played all that bad! He needs a chance to play, that's all!

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#9 a lg dubl dubl
November 27 2011, 11:11AM
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Copperandblue wrote:

So why don't we know the status of Hall. He wouldn't have come bak if his collarbone was broken. Is it a deep bruise or separated shoulder. Did they xray him in Denver? I heard MRI...anyone know?

Coach Renney said MRI on Monday....I just hope its not season ending like Hemsky

Did anybody else notice after Hall recived the crosscheck the Avs player checked him into the boards after Taylor skated away with the arm at his side...kinda looked like the Avs player made sure Hall would stay down, finish your check or not that's dirty pool IMO.

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#10 BackEastOiler
November 27 2011, 11:13AM
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I'd like to see Teemu Hartikainen be given that shot. Those of us old enough will remember McSorley as Gretzky's policeman, or Tikkanen as mega-pest on our side, or Probert driving us wild while in top 6 positions in Detroit or Chicago. That's the sort of skill set we need in our top 6 - Wilson may have never run Hall the way he did with somebody Probert-like in the lineup.

I think Hartikainen could have that sort of skill and drive, if given a chance. PRV seems more like a Forsberg-type, who has a long, long way to go, before he could even approach Forsberg's top 6 dominance based on will, speed and skill. Hartikainen's physicality would open up space for the other two (five) and he can finish, we've seen that last year ...

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#11 etownman
November 27 2011, 11:22AM
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@BackEastOiler

BackEastOiler, Hartikainen definately will have a place on this team! I definately see him sliding into Petrell's spot next year! The thing is, MPS has displayed top six talent & needs a chance to play & get going. His speed is scary & I can see him terrorizing d-men coming down the left side on a feed from Hemmer, but he's got to have a serious opportunity to get into the swing of it! My vote would MPS for sure & if he's given a solid chance I'm sure he could equal the numbers Hallsy would put up!

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#12 Oil4six
November 27 2011, 11:24AM
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I feel for Hall but with how he plays it was only a matter of time, like LT said hopefully someone will take advantage of the oppurtunity.

More importantly who's the girl, very familiar but can't place a name

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Actual conversation heard on the flight last night*...

4. Hemmer, my shoulder is really fubar

83. Its ok Hallsy, I've got a good shoulder guy. I think I even have his card here in my wallet,lemme look for a sec....

83. Yup, here it is **looks for Hallsy only to find him trying to find another seat.

(Hallsy sits next to 89)

4 to 89. Sam, I dont want Hemmers surgeon, got any ideas?

89. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

* or not

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#14 Dipstick
November 27 2011, 11:36AM
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Big fan of PRV, but he has been weak on the puck and going to the net this season. He needs a wake up call. I would prefer that they send him down for a few and give some deserving players in OKC "a cup of coffee"(in the Lowetide vernacular).

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#15 copperandblue
November 27 2011, 11:39AM
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a lg dbl dbl: Coach Renney said MRI on Monday....I just hope its not season ending like Hemsky.

Tells me it won't be season ender if he could fly home with a sling on. The Lads need a Stan Jonathan kind of roughian..can't have teams taking liberties with our stars, although the hit on Hall looked legal. Asham type of guy, Eager or Hordichuk are flailers, Asham delivers knock out punches.

Hope this can be a positive for MPS or Landers and even Hartikainan.

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#16 Shane
November 27 2011, 11:52AM
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Hall put himself in a vulnerable position to get creamed, let's face it he always does.. Don't act suprised people we saw this coming, every time he gets the puck he gets roughed up. I love the drive this guy has but he has to play smarter or we're gonna have Hemsky 2.0

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#17 Shane
November 27 2011, 11:54AM
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@Big Cap

So apparently you didn't watch the Minnesota game? And how much ice did Hordy see after the hit. And even when he was on the ice I'm pretty sure it wasn't against there top guys..

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November 27 2011, 11:54AM
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True, I don't think so either just because he was back out on the ice soon after I'm just expecting the worst(see hemsky) hoping for the best lol.

Id like to see Hartikinen come up too and slide into the 3-4 line and PRV finally get a chance in the top 6 where he should have been to begin with.

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#19 justDOit
November 27 2011, 11:56AM
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I think the biggest problem with Hall's injury will be keeping him out of the lineup until he's healthy again. As he did last night, he'll lie to the trainers and try to get back too soon.

So who is up for Eager to have a lengthy trial on wing with RNH and Eberle? Maybe some ice time with linemates who can carry the play for him will be just the thing to bring him out of his funk?

I'd rather lose a game or two trying it, then lose Eberle or RNH to injury. The reason that Semenko and McSorely worked so well back in the day, was because they were on the ice with Gretz - not on the bench.

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#20 D
November 27 2011, 11:59AM
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Can't wait for the results of the MRI. I actually don't think Hall will be out that long. Of course, I've been wrong before...

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#21 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
November 27 2011, 12:01PM
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Big Cap wrote:

I am also VERY discouraged that after the hit that NOTHING was done. Yes, Pecks tried to step up and go right after him but it resulted in a goal. BUT where was Hordy?!?!?!?!?! He has talked a VERY big game thus far,but what has he accomplished??? Hords didnt force the issue with Wilson, he didnt even make a run at any of their best players like Duchene, O'reily, or Stasney. He played his regular shift up and down the wing all night. IMO, it was a GUTLESS preformance! Our future captain and franchise player gets knocked out of the game and NOTHING happens???

I would love to listen to the July interviews that Hordy proclaimed nothing would happen on his watch and if it did, he would make the other team pay...YEAH RIGHT!

What do you think the chances of Seguin getting hit like that and having nothing done?? Would Thornton just stand around?? No true heavyweight on any team woukd allow this on his watch!!

Hordichuk = Gutless and Useless!

i am very discouraged to see you posting with your head up your ass on the fantastic sunday.

LOOK AT HORDICHUKS ICE TIME FROM LAST NIGHT. HE HAD 1 (ONE, UNO) SHIFT IN THE SECOND PERIOD FOR A TOTAL OF 39 SECONDS AND ZERO (ZIP, NADA, ZILTCH) SHIFTS IN THE THIRD.

regular shift up and down the wing all night? what game were you watching?

how exactly is he supposed to do anything while he is stapled to the bench?

For future reference, please view the ice time stats conveniently posted on the nhl.com website before posting with your head up your ass. In this case, we can see Hordichuks ice time using this link (http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20112012/TV020328.HTM)

If you are to lazy (evidently you are) to surf over that way, i will take this moment to help you out and post it here:

16 HORDICHUK, DARCY

1----- 1 1:49 / 18:11 2:35 / 17:25 00:46

2----- 1 4:30 / 15:30 5:15 / 14:45 00:45 G

3----- 1 11:15 / 8:45 11:51 / 8:09 00:36

4----- 1 14:06 / 5:54 14:43 / 5:17 00:37

5----- 2 2:24 / 17:36 3:03 / 16:57 00:39

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#22 D
November 27 2011, 12:03PM
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Oil4six wrote:

I feel for Hall but with how he plays it was only a matter of time, like LT said hopefully someone will take advantage of the oppurtunity.

More importantly who's the girl, very familiar but can't place a name

Anne Hathaway. The easiest way to identify the LT girls is to right-click on the photograph and click "save picture as". Usually the file pops up as the last name of the girl.

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#23 David S
November 27 2011, 12:04PM
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@Oilers G-that un-retired Haiku writing MotherF^%$er

More like...

83: Its ok Hallsy, I've got a good shoulder guy. I think I even have his card here in my wallet,lemme look for a sec (twists around to reach his wallet)....

SFX: The audible *pop* of a dislocating shoulder reverberates throughout the flight cabin.

83: MEDIC!

4: Freezes in horror.

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#24 David S
November 27 2011, 12:15PM
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@cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

The simple fact is Renney did not want a dog-tired team having to kill off the ensuing penalty as the result of Hordicuk's retribution. He (Renney) pretty much admitted the team was gassed in the third, and he doesn't say those sorts of things very often.

That Renney and his boys did not go headhunting after the hit on Hall tells me they really want to win this year - which is a good thing.

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#25 ken
November 27 2011, 12:20PM
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I actually think by the rules it was clearly boarding. McClemonts comment that they were told to finish there checks on our skill players tells it all.Not just finish there checks but on our skill.Doesnt that sound like run them? Our defence are at least as big as Avs and Avs have small skilled forwards but our coachs elected to turn the other cheek.You cant tell me that Peckham and Hordichuk were not held back.Our problem starts on the bench.

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#26 @NateInVegas
November 27 2011, 12:23PM
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WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

The Oilers have another elite 65 game player... All kidding aside, if Hall's out 10-15 games the Oilers can't ignore it when it's time for his next contract.

"The Big Three" might not be as expensive to re-sign afterall.

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#27 HORDY hears a who
November 27 2011, 12:25PM
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Big Cap wrote:

I am also VERY discouraged that after the hit that NOTHING was done. Yes, Pecks tried to step up and go right after him but it resulted in a goal. BUT where was Hordy?!?!?!?!?! He has talked a VERY big game thus far,but what has he accomplished??? Hords didnt force the issue with Wilson, he didnt even make a run at any of their best players like Duchene, O'reily, or Stasney. He played his regular shift up and down the wing all night. IMO, it was a GUTLESS preformance! Our future captain and franchise player gets knocked out of the game and NOTHING happens???

I would love to listen to the July interviews that Hordy proclaimed nothing would happen on his watch and if it did, he would make the other team pay...YEAH RIGHT!

What do you think the chances of Seguin getting hit like that and having nothing done?? Would Thornton just stand around?? No true heavyweight on any team woukd allow this on his watch!!

Hordichuk = Gutless and Useless!

i 100% agree with @cableguy. you are making yourself sound like such a nib, yes a nib. that lump you find right beside the nub on a chicken wing according to the guy on those bp's commercial.

even on the bench hordy was still chirping at wilson... maybe you shouldn't be switching from twilight to the game during intermission.

oooops knock me down and call me a susan

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#28 Big Cap
November 27 2011, 12:27PM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

i am very discouraged to see you posting with your head up your ass on the fantastic sunday.

LOOK AT HORDICHUKS ICE TIME FROM LAST NIGHT. HE HAD 1 (ONE, UNO) SHIFT IN THE SECOND PERIOD FOR A TOTAL OF 39 SECONDS AND ZERO (ZIP, NADA, ZILTCH) SHIFTS IN THE THIRD.

regular shift up and down the wing all night? what game were you watching?

how exactly is he supposed to do anything while he is stapled to the bench?

For future reference, please view the ice time stats conveniently posted on the nhl.com website before posting with your head up your ass. In this case, we can see Hordichuks ice time using this link (http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20112012/TV020328.HTM)

If you are to lazy (evidently you are) to surf over that way, i will take this moment to help you out and post it here:

16 HORDICHUK, DARCY

1----- 1 1:49 / 18:11 2:35 / 17:25 00:46

2----- 1 4:30 / 15:30 5:15 / 14:45 00:45 G

3----- 1 11:15 / 8:45 11:51 / 8:09 00:36

4----- 1 14:06 / 5:54 14:43 / 5:17 00:37

5----- 2 2:24 / 17:36 3:03 / 16:57 00:39

@ Cable Guy

Firstly, Thank you for responding to my message

Secondly, Thank you for making personal comments, I guess your just another internet tough guy.

Thirdly, and most importantly, Of Hordy`s 5 shifts he played, 4 of them were after Hall was hit. He played the remainder of the 1st period on a regular shift, and had one shift in the 2nd.

It was clear that he was not about to do anything and Renney saw no need need to play him while up a goal in the 2nd period.

Tough guys have limited icetime to make an impact. How many shifts are required for him to make some sort of payback within that 1st period...

Hordy talked a Big game about how he would ``Force`` guys into dealing with him. He did no such thing last night.

I dont know what is a bigger joke, Hordy being completely useless, or you defending him. Hall is our Franchise player, and this can not be accepted. Limited icetime or not.

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#29 Oil4six
November 27 2011, 12:30PM
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@D

Thanks that's a useful tip!

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#30 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
November 27 2011, 12:37PM
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Big Cap wrote:

@ Cable Guy

Firstly, Thank you for responding to my message

Secondly, Thank you for making personal comments, I guess your just another internet tough guy.

Thirdly, and most importantly, Of Hordy`s 5 shifts he played, 4 of them were after Hall was hit. He played the remainder of the 1st period on a regular shift, and had one shift in the 2nd.

It was clear that he was not about to do anything and Renney saw no need need to play him while up a goal in the 2nd period.

Tough guys have limited icetime to make an impact. How many shifts are required for him to make some sort of payback within that 1st period...

Hordy talked a Big game about how he would ``Force`` guys into dealing with him. He did no such thing last night.

I dont know what is a bigger joke, Hordy being completely useless, or you defending him. Hall is our Franchise player, and this can not be accepted. Limited icetime or not.

oh i see. so now it goes from "regular shift up and down the wing all night" to "It was clear that he was not about to do anything and Renney saw no need need to play him while up a goal in the 2nd period".

Where did i defend hordichuk? I called out your BS about him playing all night, that was it. i said nothing about whether i thought what he did was right or wrong. I wont fault the guy for doing nothing when he wasnt on the ice for almost all the last 2 periods

I wasnt on the bench, i dont know if renney put the clamp down and told the team no stupid stuff with the game so close. I will leave the speculating to you, it looks like you seem to have a great handle on it so far

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#31 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 27 2011, 12:39PM
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Speaking of injuries... any word on Sutton?

and the inevitable... a youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg9ruee3Vos

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#32 Quicksilver ballet
November 27 2011, 12:55PM
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I'm not a doctor but i'm going to express my opinion anyways. The injury to Hall is most likely a dislocated shoulder. Once the ball is back in the socket you're virtually pain free again. It was probably Taylors decision to return once TD was able to put Halls shoulder back into place.

Have to think his shoulder pads played a role in his shoulder being yanked from it's socket. Shoulder pads are intended to absorb the impact when your arm is at your side bracing for impact. When Taylor extended his arm to break his fall, the colision with the boards combined with the angle of his arm, and the gladiator type shoulder pad is what pushed that shoulder out of place. He would've had a much better chance had he been wearing no shoulder pads during that colision with the boards.

My shoulder has come out on me so many times the doctors have just showed me how to put it back into place without having to got to the hospital. the pain is excruciating when the ball isn't in it's rightful place but when it is back in place you feel 100% again. Once it comes out once it's going to happen on numerous occasions until you have surgery to stabilize it.

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#33 Tom Darnette
November 27 2011, 01:03PM
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@Tikktalk

So many agenda's going on hard to believe the Oilers are actually winning. After that hit on Hall why wouldn't someone (coach, player, assistant coach) send a message to the other team don't touch our guy. Maybe Tom R IQ is really that low. If they want to earn there contracts than quit screwing around. The GM is basically coaching the team. Sack the coach these kind of hits and playing should not even be allowed!!

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#34 Toro
November 27 2011, 01:08PM
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What did hall say bout playing with Hemsky

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#36 Quicksilver ballet
November 27 2011, 01:15PM
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This opportunity Paajarvi will have will probably only confirm he'll never be the kind of player we hoped he'd be here in Edmonton. We'll see much more of the same from Magnus, he'll take it wide (the path of least resistance) and the play will die while the puck is in his possession. Not sure who's seperated from the puck easier, Paajarvi or Gagner.

A win against the Preds tommorow and the planets will all be in alignment again...

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#37 Douche Nietzsche
November 27 2011, 01:17PM
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@Lowetide

You said "nightmare"

-a terrifying dream in which the dreamer experiences feelings of helplessness, extreme anxiety, sorrow, etc.

As you recall? Thats pretty harsh to call playing or getting use to playing with Hemsky a nightmare, and not even really know what you are talking about.

What's up?

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#38 Spydyr
November 27 2011, 01:18PM
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BackEastOiler wrote:

I'd like to see Teemu Hartikainen be given that shot. Those of us old enough will remember McSorley as Gretzky's policeman, or Tikkanen as mega-pest on our side, or Probert driving us wild while in top 6 positions in Detroit or Chicago. That's the sort of skill set we need in our top 6 - Wilson may have never run Hall the way he did with somebody Probert-like in the lineup.

I think Hartikainen could have that sort of skill and drive, if given a chance. PRV seems more like a Forsberg-type, who has a long, long way to go, before he could even approach Forsberg's top 6 dominance based on will, speed and skill. Hartikainen's physicality would open up space for the other two (five) and he can finish, we've seen that last year ...

Your not actually suggesting Hartikainen is any where near as tough as Probert was are you?

Probert was a monster.

Edit.....don't believe me here is some proof

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/34423-THNcom-Top-10-Toughest-fighters.html

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#39 Douche Nietzsche
November 27 2011, 01:26PM
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@Quicksilver ballet

Hey, Ms. Dratch. How is the Sunday treating you?

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#40 Spartacus
November 27 2011, 01:38PM
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Lowetide wrote:

I've been trying to find the quote (as it was requested earlier in the thread) but can't locate it.

As I recall, it was something like "Ales takes some getting used to" as a linemate. I'll keep looking, but that's the jist of it.

I remember the post-game interview. Hall was asked to describe playing with Hemsky and said something like "tricky" and "hard to get used to" or "take some getting used to".

It wasn't anything bad, just that getting used to Ales' style is an adjustment for a player new to his line.

That was my take on it, anyhow.

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#42 The poster formerly known as Koolaid drinker #33
November 27 2011, 01:42PM
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@Big Cap

I'm with cableguy on this one.

When you make BIG and BOLD statements about anyone or anything in these forums, based mostly on your own opinion and very little facts, you open yourself up to BIG and BOLD criticism.

Yes, something should have been done in terms of retribution but I wouldn't put all that on Hordichuk. My guess is, Renney was trying to protect the lead and win the game.

As far as name calling, well, everyone here is a tough guy behind the keyboard. Including yourself calling Hordichuk GUTLESS and USELESS.

Your original comment reeks of "HATER" odour.

Be critical but don't hate. HATERS SUCK!

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#43 Quicksilver ballet
November 27 2011, 01:42PM
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Douche Nietzsche wrote:

Hey, Ms. Dratch. How is the Sunday treating you?

Fine sir, thanks for asking.

btw, you don't happen to have a wet saw i could borrow for a week would you? j/k

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#44 The poster formerly known as Koolaid drinker #33
November 27 2011, 01:52PM
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Big Cap wrote:

Because of the Oil`s great start and the great play of the team, MPS has dodged a major fan backlash.

Though still very young and still learning the NA game, we cant get to down on him. HOWEVER, this is MPS big chance to step in and deliver as he will be given every chance to contribute.

I am confident with 2nd line linemates and ice time, he will deliver and put this first quarter behind him.

Now why can't you show Hordy the same love as MPS:)

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#45 copperandblue
November 27 2011, 01:54PM
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There's lots of time to finish Wilson off so I can see Renney's point of not sending in the dogs and having the tired team fend off an instigator penalty; what I don't get is no tough guy on the team.

The Canucks lost the Cup because they couldn't protect the 'twins' from a shrimp like Brad Marchand.

The defense can use some help but this team needs a nuclear deterrent now...a one punch wonder and then watch the respect the kids get.

Forget Hordichuk or Eager (I think he's done), we need the Stan Jonathan hammer hands.

(Mom's looking over my shoulder)

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#46 sizedoesmatter
November 27 2011, 02:34PM
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@ Cable Guy

Firstly, Thank you for responding to my message

Secondly, Thank you for making personal comments, I guess your just another internet tough guy.

Thirdly, and most importantly, Of Hordy`s 5 shifts he played, 4 of them were after Hall was hit. He played the remainder of the 1st period on a regular shift, and had one shift in the 2nd.

It was clear that he was not about to do anything and Renney saw no need need to play him while up a goal in the 2nd period.

Tough guys have limited icetime to make an impact. How many shifts are required for him to make some sort of payback within that 1st period...

Hordy talked a Big game about how he would ``Force`` guys into dealing with him. He did no such thing last night.

I dont know what is a bigger joke, Hordy being completely useless, or you defending him. Hall is our Franchise player, and this can not be accepted. Limited icetime or not.

Darcy Hordichuck was a major reason the oilers ended a 17 game losing streak in Minny.How soon we forget

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#47 Brew46
November 27 2011, 02:39PM
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Maybe the avs were keying on the "skill" because of suttons hit on landeskog? a little retribution of their own... just a thought

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#48 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 27 2011, 03:02PM
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@copperandblue

The Canucks lost the Cup because they couldn't protect the 'twins' from a shrimp like Brad Marchand.

That's ridiculous... you think one incident in a 7 game series - as emblematic and replay worthy as it was - really made that big a difference?

The Nucks didn't lose because their players were intimidated, or muscled. That's ridiculous. They lost for two readily identifiable reasons

1) they failed to do what they did all season - convert on the PP. something every small, talented team needs to do to win. the nucks last year put on a season long clinic exposing bigger, tougher teams by outlasting the hits and converting the PP. That dried up completely in the cup final

2) goaltending. Luongo played a few brilliant games and a few terrible games... enough though to win if only Thomas hadn't hit upon a once in a lifetime amazing streak

those factors mattered, the rest is just for the media and the mouth breathers at home

also, if Marchand had an impact it was much bigger on the score sheet than in the Sedin's heads.

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#49 copperandblue
November 27 2011, 03:11PM
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@Romulus' Apotheosis

It's called "snark"...of course Luigi was horrible, but they let their stars take face washes...not the winning formula...the Oil let this happen in Dallas, as well.

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#50 The Beaker
November 27 2011, 03:15PM
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@Romulus' Apotheosis

They failed to score at all (in the final), not just the PP.

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