Ebs and Flows

Lowetide
December 10 2011 07:43AM

There's so much happening with these young Oilers it's impossible to keep track. Example: as of this morning, Jordan Eberle is leading the entire NHL in a very important offensive category.

As of this morning, young Jordan Eberle leads the NHL in 5x5 points per 60 minutes. That means that at even strength he's absolutely killing it, and doing so in his second full NHL season. This season, I've noticed a couple of times Eberle scoring from outer zones, areas where the Ryan Smyth's of the world can get a shot off but one wouldn't consider it a scoring chance. Eberle has always had a quick, accurate shot but this year he's finding twine from above the slot and doing it with some regularity. Add this to his impressive playmaking ability and the Oilers have a 21-year old who looks primed to explode offensively.

WHAT WOULD THE EXPLOSION LOOK LIKE?

 

tsn's season projections have Eberle finishing the season 31-56-87, and those are exceptional boxcars. We can't project those numbers with authority--injuries and slumps could factor in to all of this--but the young man has been a constant on Edmonton's top line and there's no reason to change based on performance. Put it this way: he's on pace to have an exceptional season.

OVERSHADOWED

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is absolutely deserving of the attention he's received during a rookie season that so far ranks as one of the very best of the last 25 years. However, chemistry plays a big part in these things and "RNH to Eberle" may one day become as famous a phrase as well, certainly as famous as Weight-to-Smyth.

Eberle's uniqueness--in my opinion--comes in the sheer number of areas he's good to very good in. Eberle is a smart, savvy player who can find open ice and pass the puck expertly. He's a quick shooter, very accurate and has a keen sense of timing in regard to when to take a shot. I think several of those "outside the scoring zone" goals he's managed this season have to do with angles, timing of release and making the goalie aware of his other (passing) options before shooting.

We'll see. Maybe my eyes are telling me things that aren't there. I see a kid who is not only getting the tip ins and deflections, but also beating goalies clean with his shot and doing so from above the slot.

There's a word for a player like that: sniper. Is 30 goals at age 21 an indication of a young player about to go super nova? Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves. There's plenty of season to go.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

As time rolls along, we'll know about Eberle,RNH and Hall. We already know lots about them but there's still a ways to go. I think the lesson of RNH and Eberle and their impressive start to the 11-12 season is that we shouldn't impose any limitations or imply greatness based on such small sample sizes.

Enjoy the scenery.

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#1 Oilcruzer
December 10 2011, 07:49AM
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Nah, couldnt be

Hmmm. Guess it was.

While on the Ginger / MaryAnn question, before the draft I asked if Oil should trade their pick for Tyler Seguin. People were all over that. Who would make that trade now?

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#2 Dave Manson
December 10 2011, 07:51AM
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Wishing you all the best of this early FISTive Season! Eberle is the real deal - we saw glimpses of this in the WJH of years past, but now he's bringing it to the NHL level.

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#3 Dave Manson
December 10 2011, 07:51AM
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Damn you Cruzer....

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#4 The Farmer
December 10 2011, 08:06AM
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Gagner keeps playing like he did last night he's gonna find himself right back in the conversation for building blocks of this team with the other kids

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#5 Oilcruzer
December 10 2011, 08:07AM
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Dave Manson wrote:

Damn you Cruzer....

*insert tune here*

Dickee Dickee Dee,

Dickee Dickee Dow...

Dave Manson and the Fisters

Are Just too Slow.

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#6 Oilcruzer
December 10 2011, 08:09AM
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The Farmer wrote:

Gagner keeps playing like he did last night he's gonna find himself right back in the conversation for building blocks of this team with the other kids

Let the Trade Hemsky debate begin.

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#7 D
December 10 2011, 08:16AM
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That first TSN video never gets old. Still funny today. I hope Gagner proves his detractors (including me) wrong.

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#8 Romulus' Apotheosis
December 10 2011, 08:19AM
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Great Article LT!

EBs is feeling it that's for sure! Can you believe, or for that matter remember, that it took him 8 games to get his first goal this season! I remember waiting for the floods to break... thank goodness they haven't been re-dammed!

It's been a fun season to watch people break out of slumps. Gagner has had the eye of the tiger for the past 10 games or so and it's started to really pay off... kid looks radically different. Eager woke up and looks like we hoped he would finally. I imagine the concussion symptoms finally ebbed (Ha!).

Unfortunately, it seems the Oil play a zero-sum game. With the rise of Gagner and Eager it looks like Smyth has maybe lost a step. He made another giveaway behind his own net last night in the first. Horcoff made a beauty pass in his own zone to the Avs for an easy scoring chance in the second. Hemsky looks apathetic when he isn't crashing the net - he got a few nice shots off though - but need some pepper in his porridge to get him feisty.

I imagine for the prospect show you'll cover what I want to hear... but if you haven't thought of it yet... can you discuss our Goalie situation - ie., Is Bunz going to the WJC, does he have a shot at #1 over Visentin? Where does Roy fit in the overall picture now? has he been surpassed on the depth chart by Bunz? Also a word or two about the Finns would be appreciated.

Also, what are your thoughts on NHL teams sending their rookies back to WJ camp? pros/cons for both the NHL teams, players involved and the players it might push out of the WJC.

Thanks as always!

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#9 Klowe
December 10 2011, 08:20AM
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Oilcruzer wrote:

Let the Trade Hemsky debate begin.

Problem now is what is he worth. His stock may be at an all time low.

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#10 The poster formerly known as Koolaid drinker #33
December 10 2011, 08:23AM
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OH Pheobe, one of my all time faves.

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#11 michael
December 10 2011, 08:35AM
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Lowetide my thought run opposite to trading Hemsky. I would rather that Tambo have a sit down with Hemsky and his agent and sign a contract extension. Tambo has the hammer as of right now. offering Hemsky an olive branch at thisoint would bemeaningful and send the right message to Hemsky.I feel,think that the contract situation is weighing on Hemsky in the same manner that the court case did against Bulin last season. Hemsky's head just isn't into it on the ice. His focus is elsewhere.

I think that he is like a man waiting for a trade. He may not feel he is part of the long term future of this team. With those thoughts I would like to know what you think?

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#12 1983 and This Year
December 10 2011, 08:36AM
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Finally! The MLSE acquisition is the break we need to get some decent coverage of the Leafs on TSN. No more will they be ignored like they always have been in the past. /sarcasm!

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#13 Dyckster
December 10 2011, 08:37AM
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Gretzky to Kurri?

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#14 1983 and This Year
December 10 2011, 08:40AM
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The bipolar nature of ON is really something to behold. Yesterday before 7:00 we had the pitchfork crew out calling for Gags and Hemsky to jump on the first plane to not-our-team-ville. A few hours pass and the debate begins on whether Hall should replace Gagner on the first line or if we keep that dynamic threesome together. I love it!

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#15 dragon
December 10 2011, 08:44AM
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Klowe wrote:

Problem now is what is he worth. His stock may be at an all time low.

For the love of Hockey God, how did an RNH-to-Ebs story turned into Trade-Hemsky one?

Anyway, I say let's fix it, instead of trading it: new lines in YYC: RNH-Ebs-HEMSKY Horc-Smyth-Jones Lander-Pajarvi-Gagner Belanger-Hordi-Eager

Rnh and Ebs will work their magic and provide Hemsky with first hattrick of the season. Problem solved!

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#16 dragon
December 10 2011, 08:46AM
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btw: the win last night was nuge! i hope for a repeat tonight!

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#17 Romulus' Apotheosis
December 10 2011, 08:54AM
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1983 and This Year wrote:

The bipolar nature of ON is really something to behold. Yesterday before 7:00 we had the pitchfork crew out calling for Gags and Hemsky to jump on the first plane to not-our-team-ville. A few hours pass and the debate begins on whether Hall should replace Gagner on the first line or if we keep that dynamic threesome together. I love it!

Sort of... Gagner may have hopped off the hot knife temporarily but the ON faithful will always make sure someone is up there! It took only 6 comments to make sure Hemsky was front and centre of the ONGLS (Oilersnation Goat Lazy Susan)!

It will be interesting to see who goes on there next after Hemsky has another game like he did against the BJs!

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#18 1983 and This Year
December 10 2011, 09:02AM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Sort of... Gagner may have hopped off the hot knife temporarily but the ON faithful will always make sure someone is up there! It took only 6 comments to make sure Hemsky was front and centre of the ONGLS (Oilersnation Goat Lazy Susan)!

It will be interesting to see who goes on there next after Hemsky has another game like he did against the BJs!

The faithful will always have that useless Teddy Peckham and his team leading +/- to complain about.

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#20 1983 and This Year
December 10 2011, 09:04AM
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Dyckster wrote:

Gretzky to Kurri?

You have uttered the sacred words and doomed the RNH to Ebs connection! A pox on you!

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#21 book¡e
December 10 2011, 09:16AM
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What ever happened to that Hall kid?

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#22 Jerk Store
December 10 2011, 09:36AM
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dragon wrote:

For the love of Hockey God, how did an RNH-to-Ebs story turned into Trade-Hemsky one?

Anyway, I say let's fix it, instead of trading it: new lines in YYC: RNH-Ebs-HEMSKY Horc-Smyth-Jones Lander-Pajarvi-Gagner Belanger-Hordi-Eager

Rnh and Ebs will work their magic and provide Hemsky with first hattrick of the season. Problem solved!

Both right wingers.... But I like the way you think. The kids can make anybody look good. But give Gagner credit he earned his chance here. Since the fight with Halischuk he has been a new man ....

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#23 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
December 10 2011, 09:37AM
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How is DSF going to twist this around so seguin and skinner come out ahead?

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#24 GRIP IT AND RIP IT
December 10 2011, 09:39AM
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1983 and This Year wrote:

The bipolar nature of ON is really something to behold. Yesterday before 7:00 we had the pitchfork crew out calling for Gags and Hemsky to jump on the first plane to not-our-team-ville. A few hours pass and the debate begins on whether Hall should replace Gagner on the first line or if we keep that dynamic threesome together. I love it!

Boy I can not agree more!!! High ankle sprains for all the fans we speak of 8)

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#25 South of Cowtown
December 10 2011, 10:05AM
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Wow! How soon we forget. Trade Hemsky, slag Smytty. Look, the kids are great, but, every dog has his day. All teams have their streaks, up and down. If we think this group is impervious to the seasonal snakes and ladders, pass the Koolaid.

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#26 a lg dubl dubl
December 10 2011, 10:11AM
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Is it just me or is Wayne behind the times with who the Oilers play next....it says they play Carolina

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#27 steveb12344
December 10 2011, 10:18AM
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Just an interesting thought: I wonder if Eager can continue to play well.

Would he be considered for a tryout as the new Semenko?

Definately a stretch,but imo there are reasons why i could work as well.

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#28 closetgm
December 10 2011, 10:19AM
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No one around here ever learns. I guess gagner is good enough to play in this league now?? So funny. But Hemsky needs to be traded? Wow i am glad that no one listens to you guys. Just wait Hemsky will get going! If he doesnt he isnt worth trading anyway. Stay the course this team is going to be just fine. The only way Hemmer goes anywhere is if someone offers up a good solid top 2-3 defenseman and that is highly unlikely.

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#29 DSF
December 10 2011, 10:30AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

How is DSF going to twist this around so seguin and skinner come out ahead?

Eberle is very much deserving of the accolades he's getting.

Always thought he would be a better all round player than Hall.

Worth noting though that Eberle is exactly 2 years older than Skinner and almost two years older than Seguin.

The player that Eberle reminds me most of is none other than Phil Kessel.

As a 21 year old he put up 36G 24A 60P +23 with the Bruins. (2.82 P/60).

Eberle is running a bit ahead of that pace at the moment but I think they're in the same conversation.

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#30 Romulus' Apotheosis
December 10 2011, 10:31AM
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Did anyone else notice that Gagner took a lot of the draws last night? I can't find the actual numbers anywhere... any help?

But by eye, it looked like RNH for the most part took the opening draw and then only came in when Gagner was waved off... unless I had too many beers last night (I did) and I've taken one or two incidents and burned them into my memory as the entire game (highly possible)... I'm wondering who is actually centering that line going forward (if it sticks for a game or two)

obvious caveat... playing center is more than just taking FOs... I know that.

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#31 DSF
December 10 2011, 10:39AM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Did anyone else notice that Gagner took a lot of the draws last night? I can't find the actual numbers anywhere... any help?

But by eye, it looked like RNH for the most part took the opening draw and then only came in when Gagner was waved off... unless I had too many beers last night (I did) and I've taken one or two incidents and burned them into my memory as the entire game (highly possible)... I'm wondering who is actually centering that line going forward (if it sticks for a game or two)

obvious caveat... playing center is more than just taking FOs... I know that.

Here ya go.

http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20112012/ES020420.HTM

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#32 Raine
December 10 2011, 10:40AM
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@dragon

You're going to have a guy like Hemsky (WHO DOES NOT SHOOT) play on his opposite wing? A fragile player put in a power forward role on his offwing? A guy who thinks pass before shoot on his off wing to make his passing a bit more difficult?

A power forward type who is great at one timers would make sense playing his off wing, not a pansy like Hemsky.

That idea stinks.

Hemsky simply needs to go. I don't need a player sniveling saying "it's not that I don't want to shoot it's that I CAN'T shoot" because his shoulder is bothering him. A player who "CAN'T" shoot shouldn't be playing near top line minutes.

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#33 oilerman53
December 10 2011, 10:43AM
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Gagner to me is one of those guys who brings it in the second half. After a few years of playing with guys like Moreau, Horcoff, Pisani hes getting huge playing time with guys who know how to play offense. Slow starts aside playing with Ebs and Nuge hes poised to have a sixty point season.

Eberle always reminded me slightly of Forsbetg, although not physically gifted as Floppa. Eberle has the tools hr posessed when he was making defences look stupid with sublime passing and surgeon like shooting.

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#34 Raine
December 10 2011, 10:44AM
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closetgm wrote:

No one around here ever learns. I guess gagner is good enough to play in this league now?? So funny. But Hemsky needs to be traded? Wow i am glad that no one listens to you guys. Just wait Hemsky will get going! If he doesnt he isnt worth trading anyway. Stay the course this team is going to be just fine. The only way Hemmer goes anywhere is if someone offers up a good solid top 2-3 defenseman and that is highly unlikely.

I ask you, where do you slot Gagner when Hall returns? You think it's fine moving Gagner up and down the line up insert randomly before every game?

I think it's unfair. He's been playing quite well since shedding some rust from his ankle injury. He was fantastic last season as well.

Hemsky is a walking injury with shoulder issues. It's time to move on. This isn't fans saying "trade Hemsky" after Gagner played a solid game last night, this is fans saying trade Hemsky for quite some time now. Not sure where you have been hiding.

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#35 Travis Dakin
December 10 2011, 10:53AM
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Raine wrote:

I ask you, where do you slot Gagner when Hall returns? You think it's fine moving Gagner up and down the line up insert randomly before every game?

I think it's unfair. He's been playing quite well since shedding some rust from his ankle injury. He was fantastic last season as well.

Hemsky is a walking injury with shoulder issues. It's time to move on. This isn't fans saying "trade Hemsky" after Gagner played a solid game last night, this is fans saying trade Hemsky for quite some time now. Not sure where you have been hiding.

Gagner-Smyth-Hemsky

RNH-Hall-Eberle

Horcoff-Pajaarvi-Omark

Belanger-Eager-Jones

Mix and match the top two lines....

Petrell, Hordichuk as extras. Lander is in the AHL getting better and ready for a call-up if need be with Brule.

Solid.

Where do I sign up as Renney's replacement? This sh!t is easy.

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#36 Milli
December 10 2011, 10:59AM
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I don't pretend to see the future, but I sure love the look in Dags eye the last 10 or so. Eye of the tiger. If Hemmer had half of that, there wouldn't be any trade talk. Eberle, I mean WOW! I'll never forget watching his magic at the WJC, and thinking I can't believe he's an OILER!!!!!!!

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#37 Romulus' Apotheosis
December 10 2011, 11:08AM
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DSF wrote:

Here ya go.

http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20112012/ES020420.HTM

Great, Thanks!

Now how did you get there?

The best I can do is to get here:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2011020420

which has a lot of info... but not as detailed as the page you found... can't figure out how to get there though... why would the NHL bury their stats? It shouldn't be this hard to find... still better than the tiff.net website.

@Raine

I encourage you to look at Hemsky's shot total over the last 5 games. It is clear that Renney said something to him and he's stepped it up - give credit where due.

@LT

I heard that in the show last night too... Hemsky definitely looks a bit apathetic... but I think he suffers from perception and overarching narrative more than his actual playing... the way certain players tend to get more penalties based on reputation than play. That is, I figure Ferraro is just repeating the line on Hemsky more than offering a straight up analysis...

Also listening to Gregor's show yesterday, esp. the Spec Report:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/the-jason-gregor-show/highlight_reel/clips/Spec_Report_-_Dec_9.mp3

I can't help but notice that Spec's main complaints against Hemsky are derivative of him getting brushed off for interviews (he says as much!)... I suspect if Hemsky's play stayed the same but he was more gregarious with the press he'd be getting a smoother ride.

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#38 DSF
December 10 2011, 11:18AM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Great, Thanks!

Now how did you get there?

The best I can do is to get here:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2011020420

which has a lot of info... but not as detailed as the page you found... can't figure out how to get there though... why would the NHL bury their stats? It shouldn't be this hard to find... still better than the tiff.net website.

@Raine

I encourage you to look at Hemsky's shot total over the last 5 games. It is clear that Renney said something to him and he's stepped it up - give credit where due.

@LT

I heard that in the show last night too... Hemsky definitely looks a bit apathetic... but I think he suffers from perception and overarching narrative more than his actual playing... the way certain players tend to get more penalties based on reputation than play. That is, I figure Ferraro is just repeating the line on Hemsky more than offering a straight up analysis...

Also listening to Gregor's show yesterday, esp. the Spec Report:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/the-jason-gregor-show/highlight_reel/clips/Spec_Report_-_Dec_9.mp3

I can't help but notice that Spec's main complaints against Hemsky are derivative of him getting brushed off for interviews (he says as much!)... I suspect if Hemsky's play stayed the same but he was more gregarious with the press he'd be getting a smoother ride.

Just go to NHL.com

Click on the game...then click on Stats...and then click on Event Summary.

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#39 Romulus' Apotheosis
December 10 2011, 11:27AM
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@DSF

got it... took awhile but I got it. thanks.

Edit... @Reggie. Thanks also.

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#40 Reggie
December 10 2011, 11:29AM
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An even better break down.

http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20112012/FC020420.HTM

On NHL.COM scroll on the top of the games and find the Oiler game. Select gamecenter. Brings up the Recap tab. Hover your mouse over the Stats tab and select Faceoff Report.

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#41 @NateInVegas
December 10 2011, 11:35AM
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Eberle should be the next captain.

Play 89,93,14 they'll create a bunch of scoring chances or powerplays. It also pads Gagner's stats to perhaps offset the slow/no start.

94,10,83 can stay together.

I'm curious what Hall-Lander-Paajarvi would look like playing 13-15 minutes. Or, Eager-Hall-Paajarvi.

Who's the best options for C2 long term on the Oilers? Hall?Gagner?Lander?Horcoff???

I think we'd all agree X-93-14 will be the Oilers 1st line for years.

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#42 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
December 10 2011, 11:58AM
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DSF wrote:

Eberle is very much deserving of the accolades he's getting.

Always thought he would be a better all round player than Hall.

Worth noting though that Eberle is exactly 2 years older than Skinner and almost two years older than Seguin.

The player that Eberle reminds me most of is none other than Phil Kessel.

As a 21 year old he put up 36G 24A 60P +23 with the Bruins. (2.82 P/60).

Eberle is running a bit ahead of that pace at the moment but I think they're in the same conversation.

Eberle >>>>>>>>>>>> Seguin >>>>>>>>>>>> Skinner

It isn't even close kids.

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#43 Oilers89
December 10 2011, 12:05PM
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I can't believe nobody has noticed how similar Eberle is to Claude Giroux, they are so similar it is insane, everybody watch Claude Giroux the leagues leading scorer.

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#44 Reggie
December 10 2011, 12:14PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Eberle >>>>>>>>>>>> Seguin >>>>>>>>>>>> Skinner

It isn't even close kids.

Not sure what you are saying DSF, but it appears to me that you are saying Eberle is greater than Seguin who is greater than Skinner.

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#45 David S
December 10 2011, 12:16PM
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Lowetide wrote:

I love the ON Lazy Susan name. Classic.

Ferraro mentioned last night that 83's compete level was poor in the last two games, and that he felt that Hemmer might be the guy demoted to the 3line when Hall returns.

I don't buy that, but it's very interesting for a former NHLer and a guy who has good insight say it out loud.

"Ales Hemsky, you're now a third-line winger."

One of my new all-time fave Ferraro lines. Right up there with "Patrick Stefan, you should be ashamed of yourself."

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#46 Raine
December 10 2011, 12:22PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Great, Thanks!

Now how did you get there?

The best I can do is to get here:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2011020420

which has a lot of info... but not as detailed as the page you found... can't figure out how to get there though... why would the NHL bury their stats? It shouldn't be this hard to find... still better than the tiff.net website.

@Raine

I encourage you to look at Hemsky's shot total over the last 5 games. It is clear that Renney said something to him and he's stepped it up - give credit where due.

@LT

I heard that in the show last night too... Hemsky definitely looks a bit apathetic... but I think he suffers from perception and overarching narrative more than his actual playing... the way certain players tend to get more penalties based on reputation than play. That is, I figure Ferraro is just repeating the line on Hemsky more than offering a straight up analysis...

Also listening to Gregor's show yesterday, esp. the Spec Report:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/the-jason-gregor-show/highlight_reel/clips/Spec_Report_-_Dec_9.mp3

I can't help but notice that Spec's main complaints against Hemsky are derivative of him getting brushed off for interviews (he says as much!)... I suspect if Hemsky's play stayed the same but he was more gregarious with the press he'd be getting a smoother ride.

Renney did say something, it was quoted in the papers.

Have you watched his shots? If he isn't trying to deke it into the net his shot looks like soft passes towards the net.

He can't shoot.

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#47 Rama Lama
December 10 2011, 12:25PM
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THE NUGE IS HUGE!

Yea baby, the NUGE is the player we have been dreaming about for so long. Eberle and Hall are also going to be very very important to this team long term.

We need to start building complimentary players that support the " three " ! This means moving Hemsky, Omark, maybe even MPS for a top two defenseman.

For all of you that keeps saying," just wait for Hemsky to start producing", please give this over optimistic thinking where it belongs, in a fairy tale. Even Renny is starting to tire of his attitude and style of play.

Did I say the Nuge is huge?

Rama always speaks the truth.

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#48 DSF
December 10 2011, 12:28PM
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Reggie wrote:

Not sure what you are saying DSF, but it appears to me that you are saying Eberle is greater than Seguin who is greater than Skinner.

Having a little trouble following along?

Both Skinner and Seguin are two years younger than Eberle.

Not to take anything away from Eberle's accomplishments this season which are remarkable, but Seguin is nipping at his heels and he's 2 years younger.

And Seguin plays much tougher competition.

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#49 The Beaker
December 10 2011, 12:39PM
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Lowetide where do you get those stats? The chart at the top of your article?

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#50 etownman
December 10 2011, 12:41PM
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Dave Manson wrote:

Wishing you all the best of this early FISTive Season! Eberle is the real deal - we saw glimpses of this in the WJH of years past, but now he's bringing it to the NHL level.

Ebs showed his scoring prowess in his short stints in the AHL as well!

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