Watchmen

Lowetide
December 31 2011 08:25AM

This Oilers season is about returns and arrivials, and increasingly about the future. For management, huge decisions are on the horizon that will change the face of the franchise.

As the season comes into focus and teams like the Oilers reach the conclusion they are sellers (Oilers aren't there yet, but as Robin Brownlee has been saying this road trip will go a long way toward writing the script) that brings a whole new set of questions.

  1. If Hemsky continues to battle injury, will he have enough value to even entertain offers? 83 might end up getting a one or two year deal because his value could be very low. Should Hemmer rip off a hot streak in January then teams like Detroit and Pittsburgh may come calling. If not, allowing him to walk is bad asset management. 
  2. If a team comes calling for Nikolai Khabibulin, do you entertain the offer? Hey, Nik has played his rear end off this season and frankly without him this team would be pushing up daises already. However, if a team like Tampa Bay made a legit offer, does it behoove Mr. Tambellini to listen? I think it does.
  3. Will owner Daryl Katz shuffle the management? If I'm right on this, Daryl Katz will follow the Detroit model and move Steve Tambellini into a role that sees him on the inside of the groupthink but no longer the trigger man. I suspect there is some frustration with the rebuild's progress and the amount of losing the kids are doing while learning the NHL game. With the arena issue somewhat solved good results are needed. If I were a betting man ($8!) my money would be on Kevin Lowe to return to the GM post and for the Oilers to possibly reward Stu MacGregor with an additional title (my vote is "President of Amateur Procurement"). This is almost identical to the Mike Illitch model that allowed the Red Wings a "group vote" on major moves and eventually led to Ken Holland's brilliant run as the Red Wing GM.
  4. Will they trade for a defenseman before summertime? Ryan Whitney's injury situation means Edmonton is in dire straits at the position. Can Sam Gagner fetch a defender? Ales Hemsky? Khabibulin? Paajarvi?
  5. When are we going to see Hartikainen and Omark? This team isn't ripping it up offensively, what happened to the old "3 scoring lines" saw we heard for years? I don't know that Omark will be an Oiler much longer, but perhaps they can play him for 10 games before the deadline and offload him?
  6. Would they deal Ryan Smyth? Jason Gregor brought this up not long ago and it makes sense from a rebuild point of view and Smyth could return in the summer on a longer term, cap friendly deal.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

Oiler fans will need to adjust their sights. This Oiler team could be buried by the time we sober up from New Year's. The future is bright, but there are some massive questions to be answered, including the possibility of managment changes in the next few months. 

 

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  • Jonathan Willis will be on the show for the entire first hour. Jon has a mountain of information on the world juniors, advanced stats as they pertain to this year's edition of the Oilers and the NHL in general.
  • Scott Taylor from Jets Nation. There's a story brewing here and it involves Winnipeg pushing Toronto out of the playoffs. Scott will give us the Jets view and we'll talk WJ's.
  • Pension Plan Puppets have several smart people who monitor the Leafs and one of them will join me today. We'll talk about the rocky relationship the fanbase has with their goalies and also discuss the importance of the numbers 18-14-5.

Hope you can tune in. We'll also be discussing cool ways to bring in the New Year, so pass along your suggestions.

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#1 Stocc
December 31 2011, 08:26AM
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Dyslexic FITS!

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#3 Woodguy
December 31 2011, 09:15AM
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Lowetide wrote:

One of good friends is dyslexic and used to wear a t-shirt that said 'Dyslexics of the world UNTIE!' Man that was funny.

Did he stay up all night pondering if there really is a Dog?

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#4 dragon
December 31 2011, 09:33AM
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LT: 'This Oilers season is about returns and arrivials, and increasingly about the future. For management, huge decisions are on the horizon that will change the face of the franchise.'

We have been using this phrase since Gagner started his NHL career - 5 years and counting.

The definition of 'under-performance' (mentally) is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different result - this is what Oilers management is doing...

Well, good bye sucky 2011, hello new hope in 2012!

May the Gods of Hockey smile on our Oil again!

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#5 thepeetso
December 31 2011, 09:55AM
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Two dyslexics walk into a bra . . .

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#6 @NateInVegas
December 31 2011, 09:57AM
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1. Re-signing Hemsky for 1 year at or below his current rate wouldn't be the worst thing Edmonton could do.

1A- Would a team like Washington/Tampa take a chance at Khabibulin AND Hemsky for a playoff push?

3. I like Kevin Lowe's ability to find NHL players more than Tambellini, but don't like him in regards to signing UFA's/re-signing players. * Re:Culture* If the Oilers fired Lowe-Tambellini-Renney would any of them get picked up by another NHL team right away? Doubtful.

4. There was no urgency to fix the blueline this year, why start now? Trading for a real NHL defenseman might ruin the lotto plan.

6. Could the Oilers even get a 2nd for Smyth at the deadline? It's not worth the backlash IMO unless they get a legit prospect/late 1st round pick.

2011-12 is going according to "the plan".

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#7 Stocc
December 31 2011, 10:01AM
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Let's not go too far and offend anyone with the dyslexia jokes. I'd hate for LT to start getting heat mail.

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#8 RexLibris
December 31 2011, 10:42AM
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A commenter over at FN had a plan for the Flames to collect five first round picks this year by trading Iginla for Semin and a 1st, then offloading Semin for another 1st, and so on and so forth. I can't see Washington wanting Smyth, but if they did it would have to involve moving Semin and that math just doesn't add up in my mind. Semin is more valuable for Washington to move for another 1st round pick then to ship off for an older, less offensively gifted forward with equal contract term. I'm not saying I wouldn't love to get Washington's pick in the deal and then trade Semin for another one, but I'm not going to plan my retirement on it.

As far as teams that could be interested in Smyth? Chicago would have the space if we took back Brunette. Or what about the Jets, if they were to be on the playoff bubble. Bringing in Captain Canada would only further increase the hysteria.

My gut says he isn't traded, though. But I do like the idea of signing Hemsky to a 2-year contract. That would give him some more time, and do more to increase his value at the next deadline as he'd have that useful extra year on his contract. Or he might just have a great year and the Oilers decide to keep him on for another long stint. Who knows.

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#9 Dutchscooter
December 31 2011, 11:04AM
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I think moving Lowe back into the captain's chair would make fans go berzerk. The backlash would make a new arena a moot point when fans burn down Rexall Place.

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#10 spOILer
December 31 2011, 11:18AM
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Not sure if this post is titled the way it is because of a reference to the clock ticking on present management.... Or if it is a more subversive reference to "Who watches the Watchmen".

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#11 Chris.
December 31 2011, 11:25AM
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@Lowetide

So Nation Radio is competing directly with an Oiler game for ratings from Oiler fans. If there ever was a good day to have a meh show...

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#12 Clarkenstein
December 31 2011, 11:36AM
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Is a guy like Jason Botterill a F.O.G.? No Would he ever be considered then? No End of discussion.

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#13 Sean
December 31 2011, 12:27PM
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Nice to see Dubby letting in the back breaker. Just like he did in the minors.

Why is Khabby starting anyway? Play a guy who can at least end the year on a winning note.

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#14 Sean
December 31 2011, 12:33PM
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Meant to say why ISNT Khabby staring. :c

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#15 Toro
December 31 2011, 12:47PM
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Reall getting our asses kicked by the Islanders..... Fail for Nail

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#16 MAC962
December 31 2011, 12:48PM
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We are a terrible team with no direction. Renney is responsible for the game plan .. Where the hell is it. Yes Dubnyk sucks tonight, but they are lost out there. There is little doubt in my mind we are again the worst team. It is only a matter of time before the Jackets and Ducks pass us. I am sick of this wow. Renney YOU MUST GO And a trade needs to happen. I dont know what to even say anymore.

Totally frustrated and sick of this BS. Yes, i still love my Oilers thats what makes this so hard.

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#17 MAC962
December 31 2011, 12:52PM
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PS

Who is that nasty nasty looking lady ? Ouch. Good times there my friends.

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#18 oilman3
December 31 2011, 01:45PM
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what a joke. being in a rebuild isn't a good enough explanation for what's going on here. i'm okay with being patient, but watching way too many guys float around and make repeated bonehead plays while losing to one of the worst teams in the league is just sickening. i'm fed up with what's going on here. i guess it's another year of starting to hope for more losses and a high pick. this story is getting very old.

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#19 sj22
December 31 2011, 01:58PM
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Jason G.... Please interview Eric Nystrom. Hottest girlfriend of all NHL players. How did he pull this off?

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#20 sean lecomber
December 31 2011, 02:03PM
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I agree the future is bright with competent management. Tambellini has done nothing to earn the trust of oil fans. To suggest the guy who can't clean up the mess (tambellini) should be replaced by the guy who created it (Lowe) would fit well with the Oilers current culture (losing.) Tambellini should be replaced by someone with a winning track record from outside the organization. The next two years are too important to be handled by the same men who have led us to this point.

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#21 knobby
December 31 2011, 02:17PM
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What a pathetic performance again today. Someone at Rexall Sports better put down their knitting and do something about the management and coaching here. The Oilers are an embarassment. RNH looks like a child playing with men. His defensive play is horrific. Horc-off is an anchor for the team and organization.

If KLowe is put back in the GM seat I agree with the former post that the fans will go ballistic. How can a man keep his job with the performance the team has turned in since he took over.

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#22 Oilerbill
December 31 2011, 02:17PM
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I could see Renny taking the fall before management shuffle happens. There have been some seriously questionable bench managment with the youngsters ice time this season. Putting Lowe in the gm chair makes no sense to me. I could see MBS getting promoted. Dealing Smyth & Kabby makes sense. If Hemsky won't resign before the deadline he has to go for anything you could get for him. I see no benefit to trading MPS or Omark. The ROI would not equall out. It is very low risk to hang on to them unless Omark say she is thinking of returning home rather than develop in the AHL until he gets his chance.

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#23 Gerald R. Ford
December 31 2011, 02:25PM
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This team definitely needs a fourth-line Rorschach and a couple of Comedians to handle "crowd control" in front of the net. And, Tom Renney may be "the smartest guy on the cinder" by the end of the season...

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#24 John Chambers
December 31 2011, 02:51PM
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@MAC962

Calm down. Have some dip!

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#25 Rama Lama
December 31 2011, 03:00PM
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We started with a decent pace........and were let down by Dubnyk and Eager. To me Dubnyk does not look NHL ready and needs some confidence.

I'm sure that there will be some trades made in the summer as we obviously are driving for a top five pick, the question is are we going to trust Lowe and Tamby to do the right thing?

Hemsky is looking better but the result is always the same.......lots of moves and then give the puck away without getting the puck on net. For those of you that feel that he is a difference maker you are absolutely right........he continues to make no difference maker. Belenger is very confounding......he seems to have no role out there, can't score, doesn't hit, can't pass, and never scores........exactly what ST saw in him is very confusing.......oh yea he wins face offs, so did Marty Reasoner and he had ten times the talent of Belenger.

I must admit I am a Andy Sutton fan.........he has patience with the puck that we desperately need.

I predict that we will win one game on the current road trip.........we have no secondary scoring except Jones these days.

If we are rebuilding and have to watch our team lose every night, I say we trade all our vets and go with a total youth movement.........much like NYI!

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#26 Romulus' Apotheosis
December 31 2011, 03:40PM
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I get the sense we are the Bloated, Aged Nightowl struggling to get our old tights on while worrying about our "regularity" and waking up 6 times to pee at night... in the comic (despite its pretensions to realism) Nightowl manages to regain his form as a hero and win the affections of his former teammate's much younger, beautiful daughter (the Silk Spectre)...

I take it that in reality we will fail to regain our form and be spurned by the much younger beautiful lady.

now to LTs questions:

1. The hive-mind of Oiler fans and media have paved a road of puerile stupidity trying to off-load Hemsky and congratulate itself at the same time. It would be nice if someone bothered to make mention of his great contributions to this team over the years and his value to the team... and not mind you as a preface to an "i'm not racist, BUT" he "lacks character, heart, drive, (take your pick)," "doesn't belong here anymore/doesn't fit in."

Like every other player he has a price. If you manage to find a deal you can't refuse, pull the trigger. Otherwise, having a career .8 PPG player on your second line is something winning teams want. The Oilers need to decide whether they want to be a winning team or distract their fanbase and piss away talent.

2. For the right price absolutely trade Nik. Going forward we will need a long term and much younger solution at G anyway. Might as well trade him while he's worth something and we have no chance of pushing into the playoffs anyway. But does anyone think it would be funny to see two aged ex-Oilers at G on the Lightning?

3. Whatever happened to just firing a guy? We move Lowe up the chain, virtually create a position for him... same with Quinn? The Lowe move makes more sense... but still what did Quinn actually do last year while on the payroll? Why would you need ST hanging around... isn't the management desk full enough already? too many cooks anyone?

4. By trade, FA signing, or draft somethings got to give at D. Woodguy has a good list of available FAs over here:

http://oilersnation.com/2011/12/31/2011-not-a-great-year-for-oiler-fans/page/1#comments

5. At this point in a hopeless season, rolling the dice on some prospects (Omark and Harti) with a cup of coffee would at least give us something interesting to look at - new boobs are always interesting! What is the timetable on Omark's recovery anyway? I'd like to see him given at least 10 more game before the Oil give up on him completely. I'm still not convinced he's the next Schremp.

6. Trading for a pick or parts then resigning Smyth seems like a plan too clever by half for this management group to pull off... and there is no way they could do it without stepping on a bunch of toes.

Happy New Year Everyone!! GO Canada Go!!

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#27 MAC962
December 31 2011, 03:55PM
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John Chambers wrote:

Calm down. Have some dip!

Calm Down ? That Was Calm Johnny boy. :-) I am allowed to vent. It pisses me off that every other team in this league can react [ and reacting is not always best i know] But if anyone here believes Uncle Tom is a coach for this team.... well, i won't insult anyone for their opinion. But there is no effort out there, no game plan or a piss poor one. You ever notice how our D carry's the puck out of our end ? Slowly, giving the opposition time to get back and stuff us in the Neutral Zone. Its called transition, we dont have one. Transitioning from Def to Off quickly is very difficult to defend and you can read the Oilers like a book. Its Bang-Bang it puts the opposition on their heels and spreads things out. But what the heck do i know.

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#28 Romulus' Apotheosis
December 31 2011, 04:01PM
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@MAC962

I could be wrong but I don't think he was patronizing you. the dip comment makes it read more like a cheeky way of saying "happy new year" and "the oil's troubles are nothing a few beers can't fix (if temporarily)"

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#29 stevezie
December 31 2011, 04:21PM
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I agree with everything except Katz tiring of Tambo. The other Stevezie's willingness to stand pat has been so brash that I can't believe he would be doing that without the support of ownership. Remember when Lowe said there was a five year plan? Fro better or worse, I believe him. I think there is a five year plan, and Katz, lowe, and Tambo all think that everything is going according to it.

I really can't believe that someone who thought his job depended on making the playoffs would show the kind of stoicism that has become our GM's trademark. Ownership has to be in on this, don't they?

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#30 turnover
December 31 2011, 04:24PM
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@Lowtide you said: The future is bright.

I don't see much bright future here.

We have 3 kids and Jones. Maybe Hemsky, Petrell, Potter and Petry. Gilbert will be ok for a few games, then back to being non-interested. Smid is a decent 5-6 defence.

That's all I see for brightness and shades of maybe.

Smyth is getting to old to be any future. And Habby is not going to lead us into the sunset smiling.

That's who I see for NHL calibur players.

I don't know who we need, and i don't know if anyone would want any of the players we'd like to move. Moving most of these unwanted players would probably only get back more of the same.

I'm not a big fan of people who can't or will not do their job.

Maybe Renny should watch tapes of Boston, and learn how a "team" is put together. It's called work. You don't need superstars. You need dilligent capable workers.

Go fish..!!

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#31 MAC962
December 31 2011, 04:26PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

I could be wrong but I don't think he was patronizing you. the dip comment makes it read more like a cheeky way of saying "happy new year" and "the oil's troubles are nothing a few beers can't fix (if temporarily)"

Rom

No offense was taken by me at all, i know what John was saying. Just frustrated like all us die hard Oil Fans.

Happy New Year ! Go Canada Go Choke Flames Choke !

Nucks- i hate you but you guys are good. Sedins are still gayrods.

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#32 FastOil
December 31 2011, 04:27PM
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Although there has been no activity from the GM's office it really is to early to tell what ST can do. He may be following a plan that this terrible hockey is a part of and is not solely his own.

We know that Lowe can build a team of veterans that can do well. He wasn't very good at keeping them, but again there is a lot of politics behind closed doors in the NHL that we aren't privy to. And I am not a fan right now of either guy.

As LT has written about many times, the Habs did very well picking up high draft picks from bad team/teams. Top 5 picks are very valuable and usually produce very good players.

The type of veteran players we need are not hard to obtain or expensive. I think it is a good plan to obtain talent from the draft and round out the team with capable vets. Acquiring top talent via trade costs so much it would be hard to move forward with all you give up. UFA's also cost so much that cap issues seem to result.

So as I have commented and many others, get extra high picks looking to teams at the bottom in trouble some way. An elite D is really the hardest thing to obtain, so acquiring extra valuable picks gives something to offer in a trade that costs nothing if the chance arises to get someone. If it doesn't, find a couple of good vets to carry the load and bring the 4-5 good D prospects along at a reasonable pace and do the best you can that way.

Part of the route to take spends on what happens along the way. The main thing is that management becomes active in response to what is happening at this point. Simply continuing to wait for enough draft picks to make the show and contribute is not fair to fans and not something a competent management should think is acceptable performance in the world's best hockey league. I could do that. Something had better transpire in the next few months or there is no way Katz can reasonably stay the course and expect to be taken seriously as a good owner, or the Oilers as a good organization.

Something that has come to my attention that others may already be aware of is that the Oilers are very interested in stats, which is great news for those of us that value them, and something I have wondered about. The question remains what do they actually do with that information, and will we see it impact what is happening on the ice. Interest is one thing, but using stats and putting that info to use is another, and if they aren't used for improvement, to me it is another sign pointing to incompetence.

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#33 Walter Sobchak
December 31 2011, 07:30PM
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Merry new yeAr you S0b's of the NatI0n!

Peace

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#34 The Real Scuba Steve
December 31 2011, 08:16PM
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Kevin Lowe to return to the GM post? NOOOO, lets get someone new or promote someone. Lowe had his chance 2006 is his legacy as a G.M.

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#35 ralph_u
December 31 2011, 09:56PM
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I have to think Tambo lets Renney go before he is gone but never know. I would like to see what Buchberger could do with these guys.

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#36 Ed in Mada
December 31 2011, 10:08PM
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1. Any player is tradeable so if they can get a reasonable offer they must consider it. Unfortunately, with every passing undproductive game Hemsky's value keeps going down. I have suggested before if they can get a reliable 3/4 D man for Hemsky they should take it. If they can't trade him, resigning would depend on what he does for the rest of the season. If no improvement would anyone risk more than a modest 1 year contract?

2.If they can unload Khabby, they should. The remaining of this year should be all about evauatng DD.

3.KL is the architect of the current misery. He should be fired.

4. See 1 about aquiring D man. The coming off season should be focussed on improving D and goal.

5.As the Oil start to sell nearing the trade deadline there will be plenty of opportunity. Do we realy need to evaluate Omark again? Wouldn't an audition for someone else make more sense?

6. Trade him for an asset and then resign.

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#37 knobby
December 31 2011, 10:17PM
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Some commentator said Bucky was forced on Renney by head office. Renney wanted Bucky to go to the AHL but someone over-ruled him. Bucky is a Lowe clone. Not a good choice. His act at the AHL level wasn't exactly a success. House cleaning is in order. I wonder if the co-coach Kruger would be a good alternative. First the Oil need a credible GM who has the ability to put the pieces together.

By the time the young D get to the NHL (if they do) Hall and Eberle will be approaching free agency. What are the chances they hang around a losing team and an even more frustrating and embarassing losing organization?

It's impossible to fly with eagles Blah, blah, blah ....turkeys.

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#38 grishnack
December 31 2011, 10:44PM
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FastOil wrote:

Although there has been no activity from the GM's office it really is to early to tell what ST can do. He may be following a plan that this terrible hockey is a part of and is not solely his own.

We know that Lowe can build a team of veterans that can do well. He wasn't very good at keeping them, but again there is a lot of politics behind closed doors in the NHL that we aren't privy to. And I am not a fan right now of either guy.

As LT has written about many times, the Habs did very well picking up high draft picks from bad team/teams. Top 5 picks are very valuable and usually produce very good players.

The type of veteran players we need are not hard to obtain or expensive. I think it is a good plan to obtain talent from the draft and round out the team with capable vets. Acquiring top talent via trade costs so much it would be hard to move forward with all you give up. UFA's also cost so much that cap issues seem to result.

So as I have commented and many others, get extra high picks looking to teams at the bottom in trouble some way. An elite D is really the hardest thing to obtain, so acquiring extra valuable picks gives something to offer in a trade that costs nothing if the chance arises to get someone. If it doesn't, find a couple of good vets to carry the load and bring the 4-5 good D prospects along at a reasonable pace and do the best you can that way.

Part of the route to take spends on what happens along the way. The main thing is that management becomes active in response to what is happening at this point. Simply continuing to wait for enough draft picks to make the show and contribute is not fair to fans and not something a competent management should think is acceptable performance in the world's best hockey league. I could do that. Something had better transpire in the next few months or there is no way Katz can reasonably stay the course and expect to be taken seriously as a good owner, or the Oilers as a good organization.

Something that has come to my attention that others may already be aware of is that the Oilers are very interested in stats, which is great news for those of us that value them, and something I have wondered about. The question remains what do they actually do with that information, and will we see it impact what is happening on the ice. Interest is one thing, but using stats and putting that info to use is another, and if they aren't used for improvement, to me it is another sign pointing to incompetence.

Yawn.

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#39 Poolanov
December 31 2011, 11:27PM
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BUCHBERGER??!!?? (spits rum and coke over keyboard)

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#40 knobby
January 01 2012, 02:30AM
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@stevezie

'Five Year Plan' not withstanding...the Oiler brain trust are gambling the everyday fan and their corporate, deep-pocketed supporters are going to ante-up big bucks to pay for their little experiment.

This would make for an interesting thesis."Just how gullible are ticket-buying supporters of the Edmonton Oilers?

My bet is if you are a season ticket buyer you might not want to know what Oiler management think of their customers.They are running this team as if they could care less about the fans. I think Oiler fans may be the most 'taken-for-granted' group supporting an NHL team anywhere.

And by the way, stoicism?? Really...? I read cerebral constipation.

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#41 Sean
January 01 2012, 07:26AM
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Why dont we get Penner for a 3rd round pick???? I mean he played well for us he might just not fit in LA??

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#42 SLURVE
January 01 2012, 10:05AM
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Whoa Nelly! I am not sure why all the panic here. No one really expected the Oilers to make the playoffs this year. I expected them to finish in the 7-10 draft positions. I say stay the course and maintain a level heading of 2014.

What is all this talk about trading our youths ie. MPS. Patience, man. We showed signs that we can play with the big boys and play it well during the month of October to about mid November. Now we are in abit of a rut, the young line of Eberle-RNH-Hall are holding their sticks abit tight and having some tough luck finishing. It comes with the territory of having young and inexperience youths as your top line.

Hemsky is still not to form which breeds inconsistency and ill-timed decisions on the ice. We are not playing our best Dman, Whitney and that really hurts our backend in terms of mobility, QBing the PP, first pass out of trouble option and shutting down opponents top line. Gilbert and Smid have been playing very well esp the former. The weakest links are the 2nd and 3rd pairings which are young and inexperienced. Our backend needs to be fixed. Guys like Gernat, Musil, Klefbom and Marincin are still 2-3 years away.

We are quite loaded upfront and trading some players maybe an option to get a top pairing D guy or another first round pick. We may want to make anther trade possibility for a tough sob who can play in the top 6. A guy like Zack Kassian (Buffalo) who can score and be very physical and mean. He could protect the kids. I think Buffalo would take two of the three offerings of Hemsky, Omark and or Gagner.

Suggesting that Lowe comes back as GM is utter insanity. I am sure Tambellini is getting OKs from Lowe already for any transactions. Who is to say that Katz didn't move Lowe up (or really sideway promotion) to avoid any more gaffes with his past dealings-Comrie's bonus, on-air trashing of Burke etc. I think Lowe prefers his position as President of Hockey Ops-you stay out of the lime-light and attention plus less travelling with the team.

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#43 Romanus
January 01 2012, 01:31PM
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ralph_u wrote:

I have to think Tambo lets Renney go before he is gone but never know. I would like to see what Buchberger could do with these guys.

Seriously?

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#44 longbottom/P.Biglow
January 01 2012, 02:19PM
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MAC962 wrote:

We are a terrible team with no direction. Renney is responsible for the game plan .. Where the hell is it. Yes Dubnyk sucks tonight, but they are lost out there. There is little doubt in my mind we are again the worst team. It is only a matter of time before the Jackets and Ducks pass us. I am sick of this wow. Renney YOU MUST GO And a trade needs to happen. I dont know what to even say anymore.

Totally frustrated and sick of this BS. Yes, i still love my Oilers thats what makes this so hard.

Yawn. You know what's more tiring than the manegment of this team? Whiney fans that see past their own noses. Do they need a differnt coach? Maybe I hear Rob Daum is available he has won at every level he has been a head coach except for the AHL. He did come close with the Wild's AHL team. He was never given the chance nor the talent while with the Oilers. Hell why not move Todd Simpson up. Look at what he is doing with the Barons. Tambellinni has made moves every year but replaceing 40% of the team every year takes time for these guys to gell. Why does a newly formed line do OK one year then the next catches fire? Because they are given the time and paitence to develope.

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