Hemmer!!

Lowetide
February 18 2011 07:49AM

This is Ales Hemsky. Despite clear and obvious skills, he is another player that leaves the fanbase divided. Some see him as an electric offensive talent, others see him as a turnover machine whose plodding decision making impacts every powerplay.
 

Oilers Nation has done this forever, by the way. I well remember Paul Coffey hearing the boobirds at Northlands in a game he was dominating against Chicago and Murray Bannerman. Slats had just gone public about money and contract, with the smooth skating offensive defenseman becoming public enemy number one on a team so talented observers were spoiled at puck drop.

People used to call Hemsky "no balls" (actually it was Kyle Woodlief from Redline report) but that bias is long gone and any fool can see #83 is fearless to the point of routinely putting himself in real danger. His list of injuries reflect that tendency to take on challenges that a lesser man would avoid at all costs.

The Oilers powerplay is addled, it's been that way since Hemsky arrived (with some exceptions). I tend to blame the coaching staff but do understand that we as fans point the finger at the most talented offensive players. I sometimes think that PP failure--along with the turnovers at the opposition blue--are the real reasons so many people are anti-Hemsky.

Hemsky's 5x5 numbers (equal strength) have always been a strength:

  • 06-07 5x5 per 60m: 2.09
  • 07-08 5x5 per 60m: 2.36
  • 08-09 5x5 per 60m: 2.08
  • 09-10 5x5 per 60m: 2.85

  • 10-11 5x5 per 60m: 3.08

That number--the 10-11 number, ranks him 5th in the entire league. The chart is here. My thanks to Oiler Mag for pointing it out.

If Steve Tambellini does trade Hemsky, he needs to get exceptional value in return.

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#51 Ducey
February 18 2011, 10:38AM
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If the return on Hemsky+ is: B. Schenn/Defensive prospect/1st They best make that deal!

Lombardi is notorious for hoarding his prospects and on top of that apparently really likes Schenn. Further LA has points in their last 14 games.

They are not desperate and frankly seem to be more interested in just making the playoffs than winning the Cup.

If EDM is going to pry lose Schenn they are likely going to have to take back a salary (Smyth seems likely) and/ or add in a player. Even then, it seems unlikely that Lombardi will give him up.

My guess is that Hemsky isn't going anywhere.

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#52 NastyNate
February 18 2011, 10:43AM
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Hemsky + Chorney + Brule for Schenn and Simmonds

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#53 geoilersgist
February 18 2011, 10:43AM
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Trueblue32 wrote:

The oilers have gotta keep Hemmer. This guy has elite talent! Lowe made a big mistake of letting Smyth (a true oiler) go imo.

If anyone is traded it should be Penner. He'll give a good return back for his value.

Besides, in two more years the oil will have to sign Gagner, Hall, MPS, & Eberle all at the same time. That will take considerable cap space I imagine.

The oilers have $13mil in cap space and gagner wont get more than $2mil a season which is what hes making now. Even if the other 3 are making $4mil a piece we still have room, don't forget Souray comes off the books after next year. Cap space is the last thing this team is worried about.

Back on Topic I don't want to sound like a broken record but the Oil should keep Hemmer and Penner unless the deal is too good to be true. Penners size and skill set makes him more valuable than Hemmer but what do I know.

mmmmm kool-aid

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#54 Tapdog
February 18 2011, 10:44AM
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ClosetGM wrote:

Tapdog. wow keep dreaming. Hemsky is not going to get anywhere near that return and if LA was offering that he would have been gone already.

And that is why I had the "+" sign after Hemsky's name! Sorry for not making it more clear!

As for the value, Hemsky being traded will happen when the opposing GM is ready to over pay. Nature of the beast when the market is bare! It has been reported that Simmonds/1st has already been offered and refused. Adding in something with Hemsky then adding Schenn and switching Simmonds with a d-prospect is not out of the scope of possibilities.

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#55 Clyde Frog
February 18 2011, 10:49AM
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Honestly you don't trade either player unless management KNOWS there isn't a chance to resign them.

Let's say we trade them, pick up some decent prospects. Next year where will the team be at?

Our veteran goal scorers will be... Horcoff, Gagner, Whitney & Brule? Are you kidding me?

Eberle, Hall and Parjarvi(SP?) will be in the softmore slump year, sure there is a chance they can avoid the curse but it sure as hell isn't guarunteed.

Now imagine everything goes our way next year, Eberle hits the 25 to 30 goal mark, Hall the 35+, Parjarvi 20+, Omark gets to 50 points, Horcoff, Brule and Gagner all net 20+ and we somehow make up for the missing production. At next years trade deadline as we are on the cusp what do we have to trade away to get a player 1/2 as productive as Penner or Hemsky?

If you are planning to make a run at the playoffs next year, there is no way we can take the loss of production these two provide.

But then again if the agent says they want out, this is all moot.

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#56 Aitch
February 18 2011, 10:49AM
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@ClosetGM

Well, I don't proclaim to be a ClosetGM, but I think a similar deal is what we'll see. Obviously, in hindsight Nilson, O'Marra and the pick didn't pan out (with exceptions made for Plante.) What I'm talking about is two former firsts and a 1st round pick. If Smyth with only two months left on his contract can fetch that, than Hemsky with more than a year left, should be able to bring an equal or better return in theory.

Now, last time I checked Schenn would be a former first rounder. So, we're not exactly that different in our requests. If the Oilers could get Bogosian out of ATL and he pulls a Pronger and turns into a d-man on his second team, Hallelujah! But I'm not counting on Dudley falling and hitting his head anytime soon.

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#57 Mouse
February 18 2011, 11:01AM
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IF the reported rumour (from Dreger and Mackenzie) is true, we should get a boone for Hemsky. Kaberle for Boston's first and Colbourne. That is the type of overpayment we are looking for. WAit it out and get what you want or don't trade either Hem/Pen. Never settle for less at this time, you can settle at next year's deadline.

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#58 Maverick
February 18 2011, 11:06AM
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If Kaberle who is UFA at the end of the year gets TO a 1st round pick, and top prospect in Colbourne, the bar has just been raised significantly for Hemmer

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#59 Team Couturier
February 18 2011, 11:07AM
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I will be happy if Pens and Hemmer are back next year. Usually when you trade a very good player you lose the trade. Unless its an absolutely incredible deal, I say we keep those two. Schenn or Johansen? Sure. A first rounder? No dice. Now, if we come up to next years deadline and still no deals for those two, we can look at offers.

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#60 TonyT
February 18 2011, 11:14AM
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Wow, I love Hemsky as much as the next guy but why wouldn't we trade him. Everyone on this site pretty much agrees that we need three things (1) size (2) defense (3) centers, not necessarily in that order. If we don't trade Hemsky, do we trade Omark or Eberle to improve the other areas? Three lines that can score sounds nice but we've tried this before and the Oilers simply do not have enough balance throughout their lineup to be consistenly effective. If trading Hemsky improves any of the three previous areas while accumulating young talent, I'm all for it or we could wait for the final year of his deal and trade him for Nilson, O' Marra, and picks or maybe Lupul, Smid, and a first are available?

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#61 RossCreekNation
February 18 2011, 11:16AM
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Bruins just moved Blake Wheeler & Mark Stuart to ATL for Rich Peverly & Boris Valabik. Oil should have been in on that.

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#62 DimebagDave
February 18 2011, 11:26AM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:

That's just it though...has it crossed his mind? It would cross the mind of a normal competent manager, but that doesn't mean Steve Tambellini has had the thought. I hope it has.

Has Tambellini honestly provided you with any reason at all to suspect even basic competence? I have no confidence in him whatsoever.

If you were to ask the same question about most GMs then I would have to agree, they probably would have had many conversations with Hemsky by now. With Tambellini I have no idea, maybe, maybe not.

I have no more faith in him than I would have in Pierre McGuire.

If you are being serious, you are a MORON. ST didn't get to where he is today on looks alone. Now I'm not saying I like him as a GM but i would bet a years worth of paychecks he has more hockey sense or whatever you wanna call it than anyone on this board. So in short, YES, he has thought about talking to the players.

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#63 Chris.
February 18 2011, 11:31AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Bruins just moved Blake Wheeler & Mark Stuart to ATL for Rich Peverly & Boris Valabik. Oil should have been in on that.

Is this a preiminary move by either team? (Are Bogosian or Kaberle on the move next?)

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#64 Kodiak
February 18 2011, 11:38AM
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With Hemmer being signed for another year at a very reasonable contract, his return should be higher than Kaberle's.

I would trade him if a decent deal was there. My gut feeling is he isn't going to re-sign, so move him. There are lots of veteran ufa's available that will produce 40+ a year and provide a lot more leadership. (J.Williams, M.Hejduk, R.Verbata, T.Fleischmann, M.Ryder, M.Recchi) None of these guys are half as talented but would serve a purpose, and the picks/prospects would be huge going forward.

Losing out on some high end picks/prospects just to have Hemsky in the lineup 55 games next year doesn't make sense to me.

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#65 Jon
February 18 2011, 11:43AM
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Chris. wrote:

Is this a preiminary move by either team? (Are Bogosian or Kaberle on the move next?)

It's a salary dump by Boston. They save close to 2.5 million in cap hit...which they need to do to bring in Kaberle.

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#66 Mowglie
February 18 2011, 11:47AM
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I remember when Ryan Smith was traded and Hemmer was hurt an the oilers could'nt score a goal for the life of them for about like ten games, then hemmer got healthy an put the puck in the back of the net within a few shifts.

We have alot of kids and untill we get better its best that he stays.

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#67 Mouse
February 18 2011, 11:49AM
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DimebagDave wrote:

If you are being serious, you are a MORON. ST didn't get to where he is today on looks alone. Now I'm not saying I like him as a GM but i would bet a years worth of paychecks he has more hockey sense or whatever you wanna call it than anyone on this board. So in short, YES, he has thought about talking to the players.

Finally some sense on here. Everyone just piles on the "incompetant GM" bandwagon. I am neither a fan nor a hater of ST, but people think he is incompetant because he didn't sign "transitional players" (thank booby stuffer for that over used term) is getting hard to take. I think that he tried to cherry pick the ones he wanted, didn't get them, so then didn't settle for the lesser ones available. He kept roster space open enough for the young kids that could cut it. It also seems that since there is no info coming out of the office, everyone thinks he is doing nothing. Maybe i am just too soft on ST. Let's see what he does in the summer.

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#68 Pajamah
February 18 2011, 11:49AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Bruins just moved Blake Wheeler & Mark Stuart to ATL for Rich Peverly & Boris Valabik. Oil should have been in on that.

Which part?

Wheeler and Stuart fill needs, so do Peverly and Valabik.

I haven't been tracking Valabik since his world juniors appearance (or before, for that matter, ~5 games is enough of a sample size~) Does he project to a top 3 D-man?

If not, Peverly and Wheeler look to be more valuable to Edm than either D-man (we don't need anymore #4 d-men, we already have a 2-3, atleast 3 #4-5's, and 3 #8's)

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#69 Archaeologuy
February 18 2011, 11:51AM
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I think many posters have hit the nail on the head. It's going to take a huge return to pry Hemsky out of Edmonton this season. The return that teams are getting already for players a tier below Hemsky is already high, and the Oil are not in a position where they need to sell (as they would be next year).

The starting point for a team like LA SHOULD be Schenn +++ because as many have already asked, how does trading Hemsky now make the Oil a better club? This team should not be accepting players like Nilsson who failed to reach potential in NYI even before he was moved to EDM. It's blue chippers or nothing.

I'm a huge Hemsky fan, but I get the gut feeling that his departure is inevitable. If that's the case then an overpayment is the only acceptable return.

Say no to Bogo

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#70 Mouse
February 18 2011, 11:53AM
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Pajamah wrote:

Which part?

Wheeler and Stuart fill needs, so do Peverly and Valabik.

I haven't been tracking Valabik since his world juniors appearance (or before, for that matter, ~5 games is enough of a sample size~) Does he project to a top 3 D-man?

If not, Peverly and Wheeler look to be more valuable to Edm than either D-man (we don't need anymore #4 d-men, we already have a 2-3, atleast 3 #4-5's, and 3 #8's)

Would have liked Stuart here. Would replace/upgrade what Vandermeer was supposed to be for next year. Wheeler, I am not crazy about, but would be a good 3rd liner. Might be too expensive for that role though.

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#71 RossCreekNation
February 18 2011, 12:09PM
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Chris. wrote:

Is this a preiminary move by either team? (Are Bogosian or Kaberle on the move next?)

Kaberle's been moved to Boston, so yes, that deal with Atlanta was a setup move for them.

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#72 RossCreekNation
February 18 2011, 12:12PM
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@Pajamah

I meant the Wheeler/Stuart part. Not sure Valabik will ever be anything. He was on waivers earlier this year (even re-entry if I'm not mistaken).

Wheeler's got size and can play C or W, and Stuart has a mean streak & plays a defensive role. Maybe its just me, but I would've thought Oil would have interest in both. Maybe they did, who knows... but there weren't any rumors.

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#73 Dominoiler
February 18 2011, 12:14PM
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@Maverick

Whoa Colbourne, 1st and a conditional...

Whoa.. unless Boston soured on Colbourne, they got feltched... er.. Fleeced...

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#74 Archaeologuy
February 18 2011, 12:18PM
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@Dominoiler

The way Colbourne is producing in the AHL he could end up being the equivalent of a Robert Nilsson in that deal.

I think Reddox might have more points than him. I'd put more money on that pick turning into a better player.

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#75 Milli
February 18 2011, 12:19PM
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I was thinking we should trade one or both, but I now disaggree with myself. I think unless someone is willing to OVERPAY, stay the course, try and re-sign them, and if that dosnt work, move them at the deadline nextyear.

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#76 Tapdog
February 18 2011, 12:29PM
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Ducey wrote:

If the return on Hemsky+ is: B. Schenn/Defensive prospect/1st They best make that deal!

Lombardi is notorious for hoarding his prospects and on top of that apparently really likes Schenn. Further LA has points in their last 14 games.

They are not desperate and frankly seem to be more interested in just making the playoffs than winning the Cup.

If EDM is going to pry lose Schenn they are likely going to have to take back a salary (Smyth seems likely) and/ or add in a player. Even then, it seems unlikely that Lombardi will give him up.

My guess is that Hemsky isn't going anywhere.

Why would the Oilers have to take back cap space to make this work? They have the room to add Hemsky! Besides there is no chance Lombardi trades Smyth right now!

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#77 Dominoiler
February 18 2011, 12:31PM
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@Archaeologuy

@ Archaeologuy

Had to check it out for myself, and I think you are right to an extent...

his numbers are a little low.. but he is a rookie in a decent league.. scoring almost at .5 a game.. his +/- for what is worth is good (big improvement over his first 6 games at the end of last year)

6'5,.. 1st round pedigree.. I think Burke just made the trade of his tenure.. kudos for him holding on to kaberle until a good deal finally came about..

Even if colbourne doesnt turn into a ppg centre, he will likely be able to impact the game with size.. at the centre position, well.. thats a deal no oiler gm has done in a long.. er.. ever?!..

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#78 Oilcruzer
February 18 2011, 12:33PM
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Hmmm. I thought we would be in on Stuart early this am. Maybe with Stuart going Atl, there is a move for Bogo

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#79 Peterborough
February 18 2011, 12:36PM
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@Hack The Bone

totally agree Schenn, Forbort and Simmonds. or maybe the first two and 1rst round draft pick.

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#80 Knobby K
February 18 2011, 12:38PM
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Plodding decision-making? That sounds vaguely familiar. Based on Tambellini's performance on the pro-side transactions (O'Sullivan etc etc.) I think his ability to build a winning team is highly suspect. I remember reading that he was prodded into the Whitney trade by KLowe. He was hiding under his desk.

The only reason the Oil have any bright spots is MacGregor's jr. draft prospects. Tambellini just does not inspire my confidence. Oh yeah that's right he was hired by Lowe.

Is he not coming to the end of his 3rd year with the Oil? What has he actually accomplished? I don't get why he is still here.

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#81 Archaeologuy
February 18 2011, 12:39PM
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@Dominoiler

However, the knock on the guy is that he refuses to use his 6'6" frame or get physical in any way. Imagine the same complaints about Penner except without the 20+ goals a year.

Here's the quote from Dreger: "He's a skilled forward with 12 goals and 26 points in 55 games this season. But Colborne relies on his skill and his critics say he plays more like a 5'10 forward and seldom uses his size."

I'm not sure about Colbourne. For his sake he better turn into the guy he was touted as being, because the TO media will rip him apart if he doesnt.

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#82 BarryS
February 18 2011, 12:40PM
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@Knobby K

Still here because the owner wants him here, simple.

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#83 Peterborough
February 18 2011, 12:44PM
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did you just compare Bogo to Pronger? not in the same class at all he might become a good player but Chris is all time elite.

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#84 Clyde Frog
February 18 2011, 12:50PM
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I think that is a great return for Toronto, they aren't making the playoffs so really they give up nothing.

They get a decent 2nd or 3rd line centre prospect with size, a 1st round draft pick (Its really a crap shoot, but better than nothing) and a chance for another draft pick. All in all a very decent return for a rental, next season I would be happy with a similar deal for either of Hemsky or Penner.

Right now I think following in burkies steps last year and demanding a HIGH price for both of them and not settling is the way to go. If worse comes to worse you can always flip them in a similar way next year if you need to.

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#85 BarryS
February 18 2011, 12:51PM
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knock (at least on twitter) on Colbourne rich kid who never had to work hard and doesn't. commitment to win also in question. Might be another Kessel, more hype than desire. First is low pick but better than giving one up.

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#86 RossCreekNation
February 18 2011, 01:01PM
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@Archaeologuy

Prospect guru Corey Pronman has Colborne as better than Kadri FWIW.

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#87 Archaeologuy
February 18 2011, 01:03PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Prospect guru Corey Pronman has Colborne as better than Kadri FWIW.

If that turns out to be true then the Leafs are in a worse spot then I could have ever imagined. May the gods show mercy upon them.

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#88 DoubleJ
February 18 2011, 01:25PM
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Atlanta has extra D-man now....wondering if Bogo is up for grabs.

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#89 Oilnutz
February 18 2011, 01:33PM
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TonyT wrote:

Wow, I love Hemsky as much as the next guy but why wouldn't we trade him. Everyone on this site pretty much agrees that we need three things (1) size (2) defense (3) centers, not necessarily in that order. If we don't trade Hemsky, do we trade Omark or Eberle to improve the other areas? Three lines that can score sounds nice but we've tried this before and the Oilers simply do not have enough balance throughout their lineup to be consistenly effective. If trading Hemsky improves any of the three previous areas while accumulating young talent, I'm all for it or we could wait for the final year of his deal and trade him for Nilson, O' Marra, and picks or maybe Lupul, Smid, and a first are available?

I agree totally. I don't care how great some people think Hemsky is if he can help fill other needs the Oilers have then get rid of him.

I really don't think we need another 1st rounder, unless it's in the top 5, but getting some mean defensemen that can make a pass and shot the puck as well as a center man that can win face-offs and add leadership (a la Jared Stoll) is a bigger need for this team then a guy that can put up points.

Management really needs to make up for the trade that sent Greene and Stoll to LA. Those guys played a big part on the ice and in the dressing room and were never replaced. With Eberle, Hall, Omark Etc. the Oilers have the Guys in place to replace Hemsky already.

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#90 Oilnutz
February 18 2011, 01:39PM
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Oh Hemsky you are suck a god...

Sorry guys. Hemsky is hugely overrated. Oilers longest winning steak of the year was five games. Hemsky played one of them. The powerplay tanked when he came back from injury this year. Oh and he got 3 points last night. A goal, an assist on the Habs only goal, and an open netter where he was cherry picking.

He's a good player but if the Oilers don't trade him to fill need that this team has then I will be very disappointed. I have Faith in the young guys for Offence and really want to see Leadership, defencemen, bottom six guys and a guy with leadership that can win face-offs brought into this team.

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#91 Dan the Man
February 18 2011, 01:39PM
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So Burke has bailed on his quick rebuild plan and not only that he also gave up a draft pick for a player (Voros) that he could have claimed off of waivers for nothing a couple of days earlier.

I'm pretty sure he has no clue what he's doing and people think Tambellini is incompetent.

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#92 Lochenzo
February 18 2011, 01:49PM
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I love Hemmer, but I say make a deal. It seems that every Tom Dick and Harry is buying this year. The deals I see going through to date seem to be in favour of the sellers. Hemmer just might be the most talented player available. So the return could be fantastic.

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#93 smytty777
February 18 2011, 01:49PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Prospect guru Corey Pronman has Colborne as better than Kadri FWIW.

That is interesting.

What is Pronman's rationale for that? Based on the box cars Kadri is nearly a PPG in the AHL and is a year younger than Colborne.

Was an explanation provided as to why Colborne is viewed as a superior propect? It would have to be a pretty compelling reason to overcome the difference in age and production.

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#94 madjam
February 18 2011, 02:01PM
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Mouse wrote:

Finally some sense on here. Everyone just piles on the "incompetant GM" bandwagon. I am neither a fan nor a hater of ST, but people think he is incompetant because he didn't sign "transitional players" (thank booby stuffer for that over used term) is getting hard to take. I think that he tried to cherry pick the ones he wanted, didn't get them, so then didn't settle for the lesser ones available. He kept roster space open enough for the young kids that could cut it. It also seems that since there is no info coming out of the office, everyone thinks he is doing nothing. Maybe i am just too soft on ST. Let's see what he does in the summer.

Tams GM resume is only with Oilers as i recall . He was an assistant only before that . I find little in his Oiler time to show me he has been a good GM . Look at our and his results since he was hired here and his record of dealings and i don't see any positive ground being made in his time here . The openings for our youth was coming irregardless of gutting or not . Our emerging youth was simply the best of what we had left from basement team . Nothing brilliant about what was inevitable anyways . Show me any trade , etc . where he got the best of deal for i don't see one . Don't underestimate some of these ON people intelligence by calling them morons playing GM roles . Some are pretty smart and probably would do a better job in a lot of areas . If your a good GM you should have the positive results to show them - so far Tams does not .

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#95 oil90
February 18 2011, 02:05PM
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@Archaeologuy

ha.... that made me laugh out loud

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#96 oil90
February 18 2011, 02:11PM
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madjam wrote:

Tams GM resume is only with Oilers as i recall . He was an assistant only before that . I find little in his Oiler time to show me he has been a good GM . Look at our and his results since he was hired here and his record of dealings and i don't see any positive ground being made in his time here . The openings for our youth was coming irregardless of gutting or not . Our emerging youth was simply the best of what we had left from basement team . Nothing brilliant about what was inevitable anyways . Show me any trade , etc . where he got the best of deal for i don't see one . Don't underestimate some of these ON people intelligence by calling them morons playing GM roles . Some are pretty smart and probably would do a better job in a lot of areas . If your a good GM you should have the positive results to show them - so far Tams does not .

HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA Madjam thats a good laugh. "Don't underestimate some of these ON people intelligence by calling them morons playing GM roles . Some are pretty smart and probably would do a better job".

I'm not debating some of the great comments people leave here. Some people are clearly very intelligent. But saying guys on this blog (I'm assuming you lump yourself in that category) could just step right into Tambo's shoes and do a better job. Don't be ridiculous. This isn't Xbox Fantasy GM Mode.

Think you could probably crack the Oilers 4th line too? Since you got 4pts in beer league last week and are in killer shape.

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#97 TigerUnderGlass
February 18 2011, 02:15PM
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DimebagDave wrote:

If you are being serious, you are a MORON. ST didn't get to where he is today on looks alone. Now I'm not saying I like him as a GM but i would bet a years worth of paychecks he has more hockey sense or whatever you wanna call it than anyone on this board. So in short, YES, he has thought about talking to the players.

1. I ask you what Tambellini has done to earn your confidence and your reply was that he didn't get his job on looks. That is not an answer. I hate to say it but "he's a GM so he must know what he's doing" has no logical foundation.

2. Hockey sense? How does that help him build a roster, or manage a cap, or even use common sense? It doesn't. The unemployment line is littered with the corpses or former executives who possessed "hockey sense."

3. He didn't even think to ask Souray how his rotting disintegrated hand was doing, so I have no idea how you can be so sure he knows what Hemsky is thinking. Besides "he didn't get there on his looks" I mean.

4. Can you point to a single thing Tambellini has done to demonstrate that he does, in fact, have a plan to build this roster that goes beyond "draft high"?

5. "Moron" was sure a good one. Now I value your opinion even more.

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#98 fatso
February 18 2011, 02:17PM
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I say trade Penner he's slow and does'nt use his size like a big man should.

Now if hemmer is gone where does horcoff and Penner get there points from lol.

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#99 Peterborough
February 18 2011, 02:17PM
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@smytty777

hockey's future (http://www.hockeysfuture.com/teams/toronto_maple_leafs) has him as their new #1 prospect

6'5" is always compelling. people are hard on Burkie but he's got 2 prospects that move into his teams top 3 and and picked two low first rounders (albeit in a weak draft year).

not too shabby for a couple of UFA D-men.

think this means we can steal a steal a second rounder for Vandy?

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#100 OILERSORDEATH
February 18 2011, 02:21PM
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Oilnutz wrote:

Oh Hemsky you are suck a god...

Sorry guys. Hemsky is hugely overrated. Oilers longest winning steak of the year was five games. Hemsky played one of them. The powerplay tanked when he came back from injury this year. Oh and he got 3 points last night. A goal, an assist on the Habs only goal, and an open netter where he was cherry picking.

He's a good player but if the Oilers don't trade him to fill need that this team has then I will be very disappointed. I have Faith in the young guys for Offence and really want to see Leadership, defencemen, bottom six guys and a guy with leadership that can win face-offs brought into this team.

"Oh Hemsky you are suck a god..."

Wow did you seriously just write this?? What an odd remark/slam to make about someone. He's our best player on a rebuilding team, and he's just coming into his prime on a bad rebuilding team.

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