10 (for the Oilers)

Lowetide
February 27 2011 07:40AM

This is a big trade deadline for Steve Tambellini and the Edmonton Oilers. The biggest prize available is within their grasp, and in this case "it's an honor just to be nominated" isn't good enough.

This appears to be a somewhat unique trade deadline, with NHL general managers willing to do "hockey trades" as opposed to rentals and waiver deals. Colorado and St. Louis made a blockbuster trade leading up to the deadline and Dallas and Pittsburgh did the same.

Is there a window for Steve Tambellini and Dean Lombardi to do the same? Maybe. Here's my list of 10 "for the Oilers" this weekend. Not all will be available, and some play for teams that don't plan to offload anyone. Still, there's value here and if available one hopes ST is on the phone.

BIG TIME

  1. D Zach Bogosian: I know Jim Matheson has an article up on the EJ, but I'm not stealing from him. ON readers will remember that we discussed this player a couple of weeks ago (here). This is a young D with size and some crust PLUS he’s being used in more of a defensive role in Atlanta. There have been rumors about his unhappiness in Georgia and if there’s a hint of an opportunity then that’s the guy to target. Ideal acquisition for the Oilers. Edmonton has a spot on their PP to make the young man happy and he's that stud on the blue the club needs badly.
  2. L Nikolai Kulemin: Possibly the Leafs best player. He’s responsible, skilled and isn’t a wallflower. 6.01, 225 and plays hard all the time. Burke is unlikely to give up this player easily, but you have to give in order to get and the Leafs are known to be interested in Dustin Penner and have knocked on the door in regard to Andrew Cogliano in the past.
  3. C Braydon Schenn: If the Oilers deal Hemsky, then surely Steve Tambellini will have had the courage of his convictions and the steel of his words over the last couple of weeks. If you’re going to make the roster younger, then potential is the watch word and no other prospect available (that I’ve read about) has the potential of Schenn. A kid line of Schenn-Hall-Eberle is something to get excited about for 11-12.
  4. C Kyle Turris: He’s still a kid and is showing progress. Turris has a nice 5x5/60 total (2.26, 17th overall among NHL centermen) and above 50% on the dot. Still a ways to go, but he has draft pedigree and might come at a good price at the deadline.
  5. D Michael Del Zotto: Good size with plus speed and offensive ability. He’s struggled this season but that’s the only reason he might be available. Can make big hits and is an expert outlet passer. Rangers gave the Oilers a big lift during the 91-94 rebuild, maybe they’ll do it again.

SOLID

  1. C Stephen Weiss: I know he’s not an impact center, but he’s an experienced player with some nice secondary numbers. He’s in the leagues top 15 centers for relCorsi and helps offensively. I know his skills are duplicated on the roster but this gives the team more experience at center. Plus he’s 54% in the faceoff dot and is facing the toughest competition according to behind the net.
  2.  C Brian Boyle: He’s 6.07, 252. He’s a natural center and he’s having a breakout season. He’d come at a high cost but the Oilers need a guy like him. Can win faceoffs (48% on a team that is collectively poor at the discipline) and he’s making a little more than 500k.
  3.  F Andreas Nodl: He has size and a nice range of skills. Lacks natural offensive talent but he’s playing tough competition and flourishing. Some of it might be because of his linemates and the quality of the team he’s playing for, but he’s at the very least worth checking out.
  4. D Mark Fayne: I don’t know a lot about him but the guy is huge and is posting good numbers as a rookie. Maybe the best player nobody knows about in the entire league.
  5. D Sami Lepisto: Young veteran who has good puck skills. Doesn’t play the tough opposition with PHX but he plays a lot and is effective. He hasn’t posted big numbers in the NHL but he isn’t on the PP a lot either. 2 minutes a night on the PK.
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#1 Team Hall
February 27 2011, 12:29PM
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So I guess when Hallsy hits the ripe old age of 27, we'll have to trade him for beans, because, you know, his value will never be higher. It feels like the 90's again, where we develop the young players for other teams to pluck in their prime.

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#2 Oilchange64
February 27 2011, 09:17AM
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Next day should be interesting. If Oilers do nothing there will be lots of "Fire the GM" posts. If they trade anyone there will be lots of "Fire the GM" posts.

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#3 Matt Henderson
February 27 2011, 02:56PM
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@Zarf

The massive size difference is 2 whole inches and 0 pounds heavier. As for the skating, when Hockey becomes a judged event instead of a game decided by who scores more goals, then I'll be worried.

Turris isn't helping the team get bigger at all.

It's still Hockey, not "the average height and skating competition game."

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#4 jbh
February 27 2011, 09:03AM
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I am a little leery of players from the Southeast Division.I have watched too many move from there to other divisions and not be able to reproduce the same #'s.Bouwmeester being at the top of the list,followed by Jokinen and until recently Kovalchuk.

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#6 Robin Brownlee
February 27 2011, 10:27AM
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This list breaks down into two categories for me:

NOT AVAILABLE (without a big overpayment): Bogosian, Schenn, Kulemin, Boyle.

NOT INTERESTED: Turris (another small centre who has scored less in 113 career NHL games than Gagner did in his first 79 games), Del Zotto (a no-hit guy who has some offensive skills -- 48 points in 127 NHL games -- but is minus-25 and hasn't been dominant at any level since minor hockey in Markham), Weiss (he's a zero-grit, smallish player who'll get you 45-55 points and makes $4M and $4.1M the next two seasons), Nodl, Fayne, Lepisto (not a big banger, doesn't produce points, so what does he do?).

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#7 pelhem grenville
February 27 2011, 11:11AM
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Lombardi...look deep into my eyes. You WILL trade Schenn...just not to the Oilers...now take a deep breath and say Schenn for Brad Richards and be done with it ...i'm not so sure i wanna take the day off to watch our GM eff this up cuz y'know he could !!!!!!!

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#10 Bucknuck
February 27 2011, 02:34PM
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Biowolf wrote:

Does anybody seriously believe KLowe handed over the reins to Tambo ? You cant be serious.

Haven't you noticed the two completely different management styles? You can't be serious. Lowe was extremely aggressive and active, whereas Tambo is called "Mr Dithers" for a reason.

If Lowe was running the ship we would see a lot more things happening.

Give your head a shake.

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#11 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 27 2011, 04:52PM
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Mitch wrote:

I'm not going to go into comparisons, no it's not a skills competition, I just feel that Gagner is overrated and can be replaced, I'm not suggesting to give him away, what place are we in?

If you think Gagner is overated I'd hate to think what you'd think of Turris if he'd been Oiler property the last 4 years.

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#12 Matt Henderson
February 27 2011, 04:52PM
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@Mitch

Teams dont get better by giving away their youth. They get better by stockpiling it.

If he's so easy to replace then why hasnt it happened. He was drafted 4 years ago and the organization has no one better at producing offense from the C position than him.

Why are you more concerned about replacing him than replacing the 3 other centres he is outperforming?

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#13 T-Roy
February 27 2011, 07:47AM
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I just hope if we give up our quality veterans, that we get more then potential...

This is the FIST time I've been first

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#14 mayorpoop
February 27 2011, 07:49AM
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thanks lt good post. is that a ranking in terms of need or want? is kulemin that good, because there is no way i watch the leafs to find out (there a few certain things i cant do in good conscience and watching the leafs is one of them).

lets hope mr. dithers isnt asleep at the wheel.

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#16 chet
February 27 2011, 08:14AM
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For me the only players that i'm looking at out of that list is Schenn and Bogosian but do we have the right parts to trade for both. Are we willing to part with Paarjarvie to get Bogosian. In my mind we draft Landeskrog cuz he has size, pure goal scorer, grit and NHL ready.

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#17 oilers2k11
February 27 2011, 08:24AM
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Whats up with Omark, scratched two games in a row..is it something to do with the hits he took in his last game or what..I wasnt playing any worse than half the team...is he maybe on the block, have the Oilers promised to Only practice him to another team because they already did their scouting report and dont want him injured and are just waiting for another deal to be confirmed so that they can pull the trigger on this one..or what.. If, IF they do move Omark..it better be for either a blue-chip prospect, a young veteran Defenceman or Center with top six potential plus a 2nd rounder, OR, for at least a 1st round draft pick..

Otherwise..Omark is a Gem that you just dont give up on after 30 games.. Who knows..maybe LA is wanting both Omark+Hemsky for Shenn..if yes, I say LA needs to throw in a draft pick and consider it done.

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#18 chet
February 27 2011, 08:41AM
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I agree, center and defense are our major concern moving forward. The question is does Tambellini have the courage to make tough decisions to address them. You have to give away talent to get talent. Eberle, Hall and our first round pick this year are our only untouchables. Get it done Tambo.

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#19 Hemmertime
February 27 2011, 08:52AM
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@oilers2k11

Omark and Hemsky for Schenn is ballsy. Schenns NHLE is high, and did put up a PPG in 7 AHL games this year, but Omark put up more than a PPG (yes yes, hes older) and has put up more than a PPG at 21 in the SEL. As you said, you dont give up on that gem after 30 games.

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#20 Dave
February 27 2011, 09:00AM
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I love Brian Boyle and think he would be a great addition.

Coyotes have always coveted Hemsky and I believe the Oil tried to trade up for Turris during that draft but I think the Oilers would want more back.

Would Bouwmeester for Horcoff address the Oils needs on defence and Calgary's need for cap relief?

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#21 Shane
February 27 2011, 09:05AM
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Isn't Horcoffs cap hit around the same as Bouwmeesters? Besides hes already made it clear he doesn't want to play here.. Horcoff WILL be an Oiler till 2015. There's no way I trade Omark unless the return is huge, should be part of the rebuild IMO

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#22 chet
February 27 2011, 09:12AM
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I like it. I'm not saying trade Hemsky and Penner for draft picks. Lets trade them for young NHL ready players. We know there out there this year ie Neil, Stewart and Johnston trades. THE ISSUE IS DOES TAMBELLINI HAVE THE BALLS TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

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#23 Hallisimo
February 27 2011, 09:17AM
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I wish guys would stop bringing up trading MPS in trade talk he is not going anywhere, Dudley in ATL has already stated he would look at trading bogasian if we started with Gagner. Why would we not do this? Gags + Gilbert for Bogasian + Anthony Stewart, fair deal for both sides and we get the young big Def we need for the next 7-10 yrs. Gags is good but with the 3 rooks Hall,Ebs,MPS to build around up front (and possibly schenn) we could afford to move him now and start working on the blue line, draft larsson in June and watch us start to scare teams.

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#24 PerryK
February 27 2011, 09:22AM
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Hi LT,

Where can I find your radio broadcast podcast files?

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#25 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
February 27 2011, 09:26AM
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Hallisimo wrote:

I wish guys would stop bringing up trading MPS in trade talk he is not going anywhere, Dudley in ATL has already stated he would look at trading bogasian if we started with Gagner. Why would we not do this? Gags + Gilbert for Bogasian + Anthony Stewart, fair deal for both sides and we get the young big Def we need for the next 7-10 yrs. Gags is good but with the 3 rooks Hall,Ebs,MPS to build around up front (and possibly schenn) we could afford to move him now and start working on the blue line, draft larsson in June and watch us start to scare teams.

where did dudley say that about Gagner?

I would highly doubt a NHL GM would use a player on another team by name.... Possible, but doubtful.

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#26 Matt Henderson
February 27 2011, 09:30AM
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@Hallisimo

The only thing scary about the Oilers after trading Gagner for Bogosian is the depth chart at Centre.

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#27 Matt Henderson
February 27 2011, 09:31AM
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@cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

I think that would fall under tampering. Major NoNo.

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#28 Chet
February 27 2011, 09:37AM
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What does Penner, Omark, Gagner, Eberle, Hemsky, Paarj, Cogs and Horcoff have in common. A mixture skill but NO SIZE, GRIT, TOUGHNESS and everything we need to beat the top teams to win stanley cups ie Vancouver Boston Philly Wings. Changes have to be made to get in the right direction. Just having a bunch highly skilled players in our top six isn't good enough.

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#29 Jodes
February 27 2011, 09:37AM
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Lowetide, don't you mean Colorado and St. Louis did a blockbuster trade?

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#31 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 27 2011, 09:47AM
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Before trading Gagner people need to take a good long look at our 25 and under depth at center.

It makes alot more sense to move say MPS then Gagner in order to aquire that young top 4 dman.

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#32 OilFan
February 27 2011, 09:54AM
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BUFFALO NEWS: Bucky Gleason reports the Minnesota Wild and Edmonton Oilers were talking about a deal which would’ve sent Penner to the Wild for Chuck Kobasew and multiple draft picks, claiming the Oilers aren’t interested in Kobasew but would take his salary in order to get a second round pick and more….One rumor had the Washington Capitals perhaps interested in Sabres center Tim Connolly…The Flyers had hoped Colorado Avalanche veteran Adam Foote would waive his no-trade clause for one more shot at a Stanley Cup before he retired. I picked this up at Spectors Hockey

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#33 Aaron
February 27 2011, 10:02AM
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Marty Reasoner. FLA is has already traded a vet, and reasoner can fill the void he left. Perfect 4th line center, can PK and win faceoffs.

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#34 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 27 2011, 10:03AM
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OilFan wrote:

BUFFALO NEWS: Bucky Gleason reports the Minnesota Wild and Edmonton Oilers were talking about a deal which would’ve sent Penner to the Wild for Chuck Kobasew and multiple draft picks, claiming the Oilers aren’t interested in Kobasew but would take his salary in order to get a second round pick and more….One rumor had the Washington Capitals perhaps interested in Sabres center Tim Connolly…The Flyers had hoped Colorado Avalanche veteran Adam Foote would waive his no-trade clause for one more shot at a Stanley Cup before he retired. I picked this up at Spectors Hockey

That better be a hell of a load of picks.

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#35 madjam
February 27 2011, 10:03AM
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If your going to let Penner and/ or Hemsky go make it an upgrade , not futures that might not reach potential or more downgrades . Go after some big boys like J.Thornton , M.Richards , E.Malkin , Kopitar , etc.. Huge voids will be left by eithers release , so you better fill voids with superior talent to offset their not being here . I'm not sold Schenn will be a star down the line as good as Penner to be honest . We could certainly use some more for sures readily useables, rather than hopefulls at this stage (dire lack in interim ) .

There is not a single one on list that i'd consider at this stage without more coming to us , to make Pen or Ales expendable at this stage . That list to me might be a list i might consider for a Gagner at best , and most i'd still prefer to keep Gagner !

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#36 Shane
February 27 2011, 10:07AM
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I read that the Wild aren't parting with their 1st rounder, but I think I make a deal if Brent Burns comes this way( or maybe Barker and Clutterbuck??)

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#37 OilFan
February 27 2011, 10:09AM
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@Lowetide

Yeah I agree don't shoot the messenger

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#38 chet
February 27 2011, 10:09AM
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Question for everyone and i want to hear from you Lowetide: why isn't Landeskrog getting any interest from the oilers or the bloggers especially if we can trade for Schenn. He is the exact player we need moving forward.

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#39 OilFan
February 27 2011, 10:10AM
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@Shane

No way we want Barker !!!!

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#40 6 ring circus
February 27 2011, 10:10AM
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I will reserve my judgement on Tambellini till 3pm tomorrow,with all the trade activity that's happened so far,I cannot believe that there wasn't a trade that could help this team presented already.

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#42 Shane
February 27 2011, 10:12AM
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@madjam

Since being traded from the Brandon Wheat Kings to the Saskatoon Blades, Schenn has racked up an amazing 16-24-40 in just 17 games... WOW!! What were Penners numbers in Jr?

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#44 derrickhands
February 27 2011, 10:18AM
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Matt Henderson wrote:

The only thing scary about the Oilers after trading Gagner for Bogosian is the depth chart at Centre.

What depth chart at Centre, none of them are getting the job done.

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#45 OilFan
February 27 2011, 10:23AM
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Matt Henderson wrote:

The only thing scary about the Oilers after trading Gagner for Bogosian is the depth chart at Centre.

True. But getting a guy like Bogosian for Gagner would be highway robbery ( for the Oilers ).

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#46 derrickhands
February 27 2011, 10:26AM
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Shane wrote:

@madjam

Since being traded from the Brandon Wheat Kings to the Saskatoon Blades, Schenn has racked up an amazing 16-24-40 in just 17 games... WOW!! What were Penners numbers in Jr?

More then half those points he got was on the power play, also Saskatoon had a very good team already. I say wait and take Sean Couturier in the draft, been on fire the last couple of weeks.

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#47 chet
February 27 2011, 10:30AM
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How about Omark for Cody Hodgson

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#48 Diamond
February 27 2011, 10:31AM
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Im going to get fired if i dont quit checking for trades or being on Oil Nation ! Get this deadline over with so i can get some work done. Sucks thats this and Draft day is the highlite of our Year..For now.

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#49 Schroto Baggins
February 27 2011, 10:34AM
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" Beautiful girls " as the movie template would have worked better. Just saying. Anyteams out there interested in 2012 oiler draft picks? Betting money is on out of the playoffs and top ten.

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#50 OilFan
February 27 2011, 10:34AM
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@Robin Brownlee

Have you heard anything regarding the Oilers moving Gilbert ? I've have some very interesting conversations with "someone" very close to the Oil involving Gilbert.

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