PENNER TRADED TO LA

Wanye
February 28 2011 12:39PM

According to TSN "The Dustin Penner era in Edmonton is over."

The Oilers have pulled the trigger on a major deal, sending F Dustin Penner to LA for D Colten Teubert, the Kings First Round Pick in 2011 and a Conditional Pick in 2012.

So before we all go out and immediately purchase Colten Teubert jerseys, hats and collectible stamps let's take a summary look at who we are dealing with here. Remember that this is only the start of commentary that will "dig deep" and "find the real truth."

WHAT DID THE OIL GET?

Colten Teubert is a 6 foot 4 inch D man whom the Kings took 13th overall back in the 2008 draft. He is currently playing for Manchester in the AHL. Hmm.

Oooh! And he played for the Pats. And he has a Silver and Gold medal in the World Juniors. That's something ain't it?

REMEMBERING DUSTIN PENNER

Remember the fun we used to all have calling Penner a big blob of donair meat back in 2008 when he was underperforming on his massive contract? Remember how he has shoved it up our collective back side every year since?

We never quite knew what to make of ol' DP, but it is clear that in going to LA and joining Smyth, Stoll and Greene he won't lack for former Oilers Alumni to show him around the beaches of California if he cannot recall his time in Anaheim.

This trade is sure going to leave a massive hole in the goal scoring corps, a rather timid bunch to begin with. But on the other hand the Oilers have hella cap space to do something, if "doing something" is ever in the cards.

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#101 Chris.
February 28 2011, 02:11PM
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People are talking like Tambellini had to trade Penner: well he didn't... and now the last place team in the NHL two years running just got even worse.

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#102 NastyNate
February 28 2011, 02:14PM
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Oilers fans will never be happy, this was the best offer available (although the montreal rumor would have been better) Penner's trade value was at its peak, he was never going to resign here, trading him at the draft would have gave us less in return. Waiting for next years deadline, even less. I don't know what people were expecting to get in return.

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#103 kgog
February 28 2011, 02:15PM
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Sorensenator wrote:

Tsn has him listed at 6'3 176, although the Oilers website has him listed at 196. Who's right?

The oilers website listed Marc-Andre Bergeron as 5'11'' back in the day... therefore Petry is prolly around 160lbs

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#104 RossCreekNation
February 28 2011, 02:16PM
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Bad deal.

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#105 Chris.
February 28 2011, 02:16PM
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@MrCondor

You wrote:

I feel people need to dampen expectations

Interesting advice for fans of a last place team.

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#106 Spydyr
February 28 2011, 02:16PM
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NastyNate wrote:

Oilers fans will never be happy, this was the best offer available (although the montreal rumor would have been better) Penner's trade value was at its peak, he was never going to resign here, trading him at the draft would have gave us less in return. Waiting for next years deadline, even less. I don't know what people were expecting to get in return.

Maybe a trade that does make the team worse next year? Is there a 31st place? Maybe an actual hockey trade with a younger NHL player coming back?

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#107 Quintana
February 28 2011, 02:17PM
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John Chambers wrote:

The problem is that the Kings have a number of more talented D-men in their system like Voynov and Forbort ... while Tom Hickey might also be better than Teubert.

I think a lot of people would be more at ease with this trade if we acquired one of these guys instead of Teubert.

Hickey is NOT better than Teubert, before postimg get some info first!

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#108 DoubleJ
February 28 2011, 02:18PM
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I don't like that we didn't get one of their better d-man prospect, but other wise the trade is ok.

What I don't get is did Tambi completely Sh*t the bed on moving other players. This guy can only do one thing at a time obviously.

How the hell is Vandermeer still an Oiler? Are we in a rebuild? Whats the point of keeping Vandermeer? No one wanted him? I doubt that.

Let's keep evaluating Smid for a few more years.

Caps win the deadline deals.

I would have loved to get Steckel or Upshall, both were moved.

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#109 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
February 28 2011, 02:18PM
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John Chambers wrote:

I think the expectation is that Teubert will eventually play for the Edmonton Oilers of the National Hockey League and not our AHL affiliate as of the 2011-2012 hockey season which usually runs from October to early April in Edmonton.

NHL teams generally don't trade top-line players for guys who will only assist the farm team, as revenues from the AHL affiliate are insignificant in comparison to NHL revenues, and it's my humble guess that it isn't the Oilers' mandate to turn Oklahoma City into a hockey hotbed.

That's just my guess, anyway.

So, lottery pick next season as well John?

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#110 pelhem grenville
February 28 2011, 02:18PM
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@WanyeGretz

...he's fine young man, well written and spoken for sure...

'splain why John Chambers gets the "Big Ups"?

@NastyNate

...Penner said he was never asked if he would talk contract extension, so how's it that he'd never resign here?

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#111 Truth
February 28 2011, 02:19PM
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Chris. wrote:

People are talking like Tambellini had to trade Penner: well he didn't... and now the last place team in the NHL two years running just got even worse.

They didn't have to trade him, but as you mentioned they are the 30th place team 2 years running, with Penner on the team. Two of the many things they lack is toughness and defencemen. If this guy pans out then he is both, if not they have 2 picks to address that need. Something they did not have 2 hours ago.

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#112 Quintana
February 28 2011, 02:23PM
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Brandon Gormley!!

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#113 Chris.
February 28 2011, 02:23PM
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@Truth

Are you saying the team is better today? Will be better thanks to 20th something pick after the draft? Seriously?

Edit: I spent hours arguing with people back in 07 who were convinced that the Oilers would be better off without Ryan Smyth and that the assortment of middling crap that came back from the Island was a fair return for an actual tough minute NHL player.

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#114 risto
February 28 2011, 02:24PM
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Great trade. We eliminate a terrible contract, and free up some ice time for our baby Oil.

Big, physical defenseman are EXACTLY what the Oilers need. I hope we draft 5 of them this year.

Penner, adios - your lazy play and questionable musical taste won't be missed.

*retire 27 for Semenko*

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#116 bretzky
February 28 2011, 02:25PM
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Commonly defenceman take longer to develop. We won't know who the winners or losers of this trade will be for probably 5 years. We have to be patient Oilers fans

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#117 washed up
February 28 2011, 02:26PM
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Was it just me or did it look like DP could barely keep the smile off his face. I think Penner is one happy guy 2day..

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#118 franchise
February 28 2011, 02:27PM
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I really think some of u need to jump off the wagon n find a different team to cheer for as if u could have got better for penner at least he got a prospect plus 2 picks look at the mike fisher trade hes a better player then penner

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#119 NastyNate
February 28 2011, 02:27PM
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I don't know if you have listened to what the oilers have been preaching since last year, but we're in a rebuild. With Penner on the roster we've been dead last the last two seasons, this move allows our young players (remember rebuild!) to develop further and i would be willing to bet we will NOT be last place next year (Therefore we would be better). I imagine the oilers have talked to Hemsky about resigning and with that verbal commitment Penner became expendable. I've yet to hear any experts say the Oilers have been shafted in this deal, that list includes: Formers Oilers Coach, Ray Ferraro and every other Panel i've heard talk today. All the arm chair GM's on here must be right!!

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#120 MrCondor
February 28 2011, 02:28PM
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Chris. wrote:

You wrote:

I feel people need to dampen expectations

Interesting advice for fans of a last place team.

Bah ha. Well played. The way you twist words you should consider life in the media.

As to your 'Steve didn't have to trade Penner', I agree 100%.

But I see it this way: we got a solid defensive prospect, we didn't get smaller, we added a lot more grit, and we added draft picks. We did this by trading from an area of strength (forward) to address an area of weakness (defense).

What else can you reasonably expect Tambi to do?

Edit: That being said. I do agree we are a worse team today then we were yesterday. But we weren't going to win the cup next year regardless.

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#121 BUCK75
February 28 2011, 02:28PM
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Wanye wrote:

The headline reads "Penner traded to LA, 53% of donair restaurants immediately close"

In a related story, 15 new business licenses were issued by the City of Los Angeles for additional Taco Trucks surrounding Staples Center.

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#122 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
February 28 2011, 02:28PM
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Could someone please add a couple more bottles of Grey Goose to the punch bowl please.

Maybe Dustin struggles in LA and they miss the playoffs.

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#123 Truth
February 28 2011, 02:29PM
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@Chris.

Definitely not today. I'm saying in 3 years there is a pretty good chance they will be better, and if he didn't resign then 100% it is a better team in 3 years, rebuilding is about the future I thought. Penner should be in his prime right now, you could argue he can waste his prime years on the Oil keeping them in 30th place or trade him at highest value. Next year this time his value is what? half? Previous years about the same, I would argue.

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#124 Peterborough
February 28 2011, 02:32PM
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Banger wrote:

Put away the drugs. Being big and playing big are two different things. Peckham, yes. Strud, he isnt an every day player. Smid, at times.

He is big mean and we only have Plante as a tough guy type D that is close in the sytem to bring up. He becomes our # 3 prospect according to Hockey's Future (http://www.hockeysfuture.com/) here's what they say:

Colten Teubert Prospect Grade: 7.0 C (About Prospect Grades) Profile Contributed By: HF Staff

History

2005-06: Teubert made a cameo appearance with the Pats in 2005-06. In 14 games, Teubert tallied two assists and 16 PIM. He was a member of the Pats post-season roster as well. Playing in six games, Teubert had one assist and four PIM.

2006-07: Teubert continued to develop as a top tier defensive defenseman with the Pats. In 63 games, Teubert tallied 11 points (three goals, eight assists) to go along with 91 PIM. Teubert also played in the post-season, recording one assist and 13 PIM in 10 games.

2007-08: Teubert was named to the Canadian squad at the 2007 Canada-Russia Super Series. Teubert also improved his offensive game heading into the 2007-08 season and produced 23 points for Regina of the WHL, but will never be known as a scorer.

2008-09: After being cut in training camp, Teubert went back to Regina of the WHL with a bit of a chip on his shoulder. A chip too big, perhaps, as squabbling and undisciplined play led to his demotion by midseason. After working his way back into the line-up, Teubert finished the season strong, setting career highs in goals and points, before being assigned to Ontario of the ECHL to get his first taste of professional hockey.

2009-10: In his final season with the Regina Pats, Tuebert posted 10 goals, 30 assists, and 115 PIM in 60 games. He was also a reliable defender for Team Canada at the WJCs. After he compeleted his season in the WHL, Teubert joined the Ontario Reign of the ECHL, where in 10 games, he posted 1 goal and 2 assists.

Talent Analysis Teubert is not much of a threat on offense. The 6’4 blue liner is a big, strong, stay at home defenseman. He plays a shutdown defensive game. Continued focus on building foot speed and quickness will complement his physical stature. Size, grittiness and toughness are obvious attributes. A fierce competitor that thrives on going up against the opposition's best.

Future Teubert will spend the 2010-11 season getting better acquainted with the professional style of game, likely as a middle or bottom pairing defensemen in the AHL.

Stats .

Profile Last Updated: February, 28th 2011

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#125 rubbertrout
February 28 2011, 02:34PM
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Chris. wrote:

Are you saying the team is better today? Will be better thanks to 20th something pick after the draft? Seriously?

Edit: I spent hours arguing with people back in 07 who were convinced that the Oilers would be better off without Ryan Smyth and that the assortment of middling crap that came back from the Island was a fair return for an actual tough minute NHL player.

A tough minute player who was only under contract for a few weeks more. Penner is signed for another year.

As much as I hated to see Smytty go I didn't like the idea then of signing him for big dollars and term. Would we have been better the last few years if he was here? Possibly. We weren't going to be making any runs for the cup after Pronger was traded though.

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#126 pelhem grenville
February 28 2011, 02:36PM
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NastyNate wrote:"...I imagine the oilers have talked to Hemsky about resigning and with that verbal commitment Penner became expendable..."

...now i know it was your imagination running the show...do you imagine that 83 will be signed to a 3year extension for what, 6mill a year now?

I'll wait for THAT announcement.

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#127 Aendayana
February 28 2011, 02:36PM
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The Oilers got a little bit smaller, but this guy plays way bigger than Penner.

Great quote. I'm happy with this trade. Yes, I wanted Voynov but this work too. He is a punishing dman with a big shot and good size for our defence. What's wrong with that?

As for the people who didn't get traded. Its okay everyone. 83 is valuable and could be part of the future still. As well as the draft is not a bad time either to maybe trade him and be able to draft Larsson and Landesdog both. Smid should be kept. He is cheap, still learning a ply we all know takes longer to develop than forwards. He plays with heart, could develop into a shot-blocking pk shutdown d man most successful teams need. Like Ulanov/J.Smith/Staois in their prime. A team like Detroit would never trade him but let him play at the third pairing with time to develop. Please don't trade him ST.

I like our team today and in the future more now than before the trade deadline. Penner was never the answer. Not enough intangibles.

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#128 derrickhands
February 28 2011, 02:38PM
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OF17 wrote:

If the Oilers had gotten Forbort, Voynov, or Hickey this would have been a good deal. This one looks way, way too much like the Ryan Smyth trade to get my stamp of approval. To use LT language, trading a face card for a bunch of potential 6s and 7s is f***n' stupid.

Forbort is playing in the WCHA and we'll be lucky to see him in 3-4 years. Voynov and Hickey are 1-2 years older and are both listed at 5'11", just what we needed a small defense-man. In Colten we get a big, gritty, stay at home defense-man with great leadership skills. I'm not happy about the trade but I think we got their best defensive prospect. Also Colten had been called up to the Kings once this year, were Voynov and Hickey have not. The big kicker in this trade is what they get in the draft.

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#129 TonyT
February 28 2011, 02:38PM
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risto wrote:

Great trade. We eliminate a terrible contract, and free up some ice time for our baby Oil.

Big, physical defenseman are EXACTLY what the Oilers need. I hope we draft 5 of them this year.

Penner, adios - your lazy play and questionable musical taste won't be missed.

*retire 27 for Semenko*

"Terrible contract"

I've already gave my two cents regarding this trade but give me a comparable player (in stats and calibre) that have good contracts then? A thirty goal threat making 4.25 mil is a bad contract!? Also, freeing up 4 mil is great if you're right against the cap, not if you already have 13 mil (pre-trade) in cap space. Who are they freeing up space for? Hossa?

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#130 Champ
February 28 2011, 02:39PM
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If whether the team is better today or not is the barometer for how well you did in a trade, then Brian Burke was a huge winner when he traded those picks for Kessel. His team was instantly better and they didn't have to give up any players!

In reality, you have to look at more than if your team is better today. Feel free to like the trade or hate it, but if that's the way your judging it then I'm glad your just an armchair GM.

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#131 Dodd
February 28 2011, 02:40PM
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Fact: Our D SUCKS.

Fact: Our forwards are small, but much more effective than our D core.

If Fisher, Versteeg, Langenbrunner and Ben Eager are only worth picks then what did any of us expect??

Given that we will want to make efforts to keep Hemsky soon and the going value is what it is, I'm alright with it.

To those who are upset because we traded our top scorer, do you really think GMs are climbing over themselves for Strudwick or Foster? There's only value in players who are playing well.

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#132 TonyT
February 28 2011, 02:41PM
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According to hockeysfuture.com, Teubert becomes our third defenceman on the prospect depth chart. While both Voynov, and Hickey were ranked higher, I'll be happy if he turns into another Pekham.

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#133 DoubleJ
February 28 2011, 02:42PM
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Does this mean we don't have to waive Jacques?

Thank god, was worried someone would have got him for free.

I love our roster for next year, I'm so glad Tambi is taking his tim to evaluate Frasser, JFJ, Smid and Foster these guys are very valueable to our 30 th place team. He's hoping we can retain Strudwick and Vandermeer next year so we can all grow together as a team.

Does rebuild mean to get 6 straight first round picks? We're on our way.

Tambi nice work buddy, keep cashing those cheques. Your worth it.

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#134 CM
February 28 2011, 02:42PM
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I think the most telling thing about this trade was that I was so glad we kept Hemsky that I couldn't have an honest opinion on this trade.

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#135 Dyckster
February 28 2011, 02:43PM
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According to Rishaug Tweet, Tuebert headed straight for OKC.

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#136 ricky p
February 28 2011, 02:44PM
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This just in. TSN is reporting the Oilers and Islanders traded their 7 round picks in the 2013 draft. Problem is that the trade might have been too late and is under review.

Hold on. The trade is allowed. Playoffs here we come in 2015.

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#137 Chris.
February 28 2011, 02:47PM
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Dodd wrote:

Fact: Our D SUCKS.

Fact: Our forwards are small, but much more effective than our D core.

If Fisher, Versteeg, Langenbrunner and Ben Eager are only worth picks then what did any of us expect??

Given that we will want to make efforts to keep Hemsky soon and the going value is what it is, I'm alright with it.

To those who are upset because we traded our top scorer, do you really think GMs are climbing over themselves for Strudwick or Foster? There's only value in players who are playing well.

Fact: our D still SUCKS.

Fact: Our forwards are small and ineffective; and are in bottom of the league in most offensive categories.

I expect management to collect AND RETAIN good players.

?????Hemsky???? Yeah. I'm alright with Hemsky.

I am upset this team traded it's top scorer for ~potential~...it's been a consistant trend for 20 years.

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#138 NastyNate
February 28 2011, 02:49PM
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Pelham..

I Imagine Hemsky will be looking for somewhere in the 5 year 5 million dollar range, but i doubt the oilers want to lock him up for that long. 3 years at 5.5 is more realistic. At least i'm a realist, everyone here sits and moans about Tambo, could shoulda woulda. Get real 13th overall pick in 2008, i doubt anyone who posts on these boards has seen him play more than 5 games. I'm sure the oilers pro scouts have had an eye on him. Giving up on a big strong D man with a mean streak 3 years into development? Everyone here was going crazy for Bogosian, this was the next best AVAILABLE option. The defencemen taken ahead of him that year were Doughty, Bogo,schenn, pietrangelo. After him, karlsson, del zotto, cuma, and carlson. This looks to me like one of the deepest defenceman drafts in years. The

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#139 BUCK75
February 28 2011, 02:50PM
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@DoubleJ

Whoa there sunshine...

JFJ, Vandermeer & Strudwick are all free agents at the end of this year. I guess we couldn't even get a pick for anyone us fans think is disposable.

Unless Fraser lights it up here for the rest of the season, he probably won't be on the team next year.

Keep it real there JJ, we weren't going to make any trades today that were going to keep us out of last place.

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#140 Coco Crsip
February 28 2011, 02:52PM
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I thought we didn't "have" to trade away Penner or Hemsky...

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#141 Chris.
February 28 2011, 02:53PM
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ricky p wrote:

This just in. TSN is reporting the Oilers and Islanders traded their 7 round picks in the 2013 draft. Problem is that the trade might have been too late and is under review.

Hold on. The trade is allowed. Playoffs here we come in 2015.

I'm just so relieved you didn't say Hemsky was traded for 2013 Islander 7th round picks... I mean can you just imagine all the potential that can be mined from over 2000 late round picks?

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#142 Bucknuck
February 28 2011, 02:53PM
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@Chris.

Every time they do that they are saying "we won't have success for a few years and are planning for the future to be brighter". It can't get worse than 30th, and sure Teubert might turn out to be a great player, as well as the 1st rounder, but it will be three years... and then will they be trading Gagner because his value is now high.

I dunno.

I hope they keep what they have now and start surrounding it with some decent complementary players and see what happens.

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#143 stevezie
February 28 2011, 02:55PM
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Love Teubert's violent attitude, not too enthused about his big-league potential. The joy of keeping Hemsky has been diverted to help me cope with this deal.
P.S It's also bs that The King's Speech won best picture, as long as we're bitching about things.

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#144 Puritania
February 28 2011, 02:57PM
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Now what if Penner chose not to re-sign with the Oil? I'm sure everyone would be pooping their pants screaming about how we should have gotten SOMETHING for him before he walked.

I don't think the trade was the best we could have gotten, but I do think it was decent. Don't forget we still have free agency (teehee) and the draft to aquire some actual NHL players before next year.

Again, I'll say it was a decent trade, not great. But regardless Oiler fans will find a reason to bitch whatever happened.

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#145 pelhem grenville
February 28 2011, 03:00PM
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NastyNate ...there y'go imagining again..i'm trying to figure out the rational for trading the highest scoring veteran on a team from kindergarten school. I woulda been ok without trading 27 and as for 83 we will see if the Oilers actually ask him if he's interested in being a part of this team moving forward...the kid Dman in return i never mentioned so ya i'm ok with this whole piece of crap trade anyway.

I'm seeing ourGm on the TV now ..he sounds like his butt is punkered and i still have zero confidence in him.

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#146 Crooked
February 28 2011, 03:00PM
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Not a bad move by the Oilers at all.

Penner was an above average talent who got an above average return. He was never an all-star, he was never a 40 goal/80 point player, he was never physical, he didn't work hard every game. I'm surprised Tambi got as much for him as he did. He's 92nd in scoring in the league and was on pace for 27 goals and 51 points this season, so it's not like we're trading away Kurri here.

This trade should allow Paajarvi to get more minutes and should keep Omark in the line-up for the remainder of the season, which seems to be what everyone wanted anyway. If things go horribly on offense, then we can recall Giroux down the stretch. There aren't that many players capable of scoring 60 goals at the AHL level.

The scouts obviously like what they saw in Teubert, and adding a 1st rounder and a 2nd/3rd rounder could yield some excellent results. Hopefully Stu can turn these picks into something that can help this team for a long time.

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#147 Chris.
February 28 2011, 03:04PM
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Puritania wrote:

Now what if Penner chose not to re-sign with the Oil? I'm sure everyone would be pooping their pants screaming about how we should have gotten SOMETHING for him before he walked.

I don't think the trade was the best we could have gotten, but I do think it was decent. Don't forget we still have free agency (teehee) and the draft to aquire some actual NHL players before next year.

Again, I'll say it was a decent trade, not great. But regardless Oiler fans will find a reason to bitch whatever happened.

The return at next years deadline would have been a middling prospect, a late first round pick and a conditional pick... wait... oh crap.

BTW fans of such a poorly run organization have every right to bitch.

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#148 Puritania
February 28 2011, 03:06PM
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@Chris.

Like I said, decent trade, not great.

Oh I understand we have a right to bitch, I do it quite a bit myself. Point was regardless of what happened, the bitch level would be pretty constant.

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#149 Skidplate
February 28 2011, 03:06PM
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@Crooked

Well said Crooked. Agree 100%

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#150 Peterborough
February 28 2011, 03:07PM
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DoubleJ wrote:

Does this mean we don't have to waive Jacques?

Thank god, was worried someone would have got him for free.

I love our roster for next year, I'm so glad Tambi is taking his tim to evaluate Frasser, JFJ, Smid and Foster these guys are very valueable to our 30 th place team. He's hoping we can retain Strudwick and Vandermeer next year so we can all grow together as a team.

Does rebuild mean to get 6 straight first round picks? We're on our way.

Tambi nice work buddy, keep cashing those cheques. Your worth it.

The only guys he was under ANY pressure to move were UFA's and the D's Vandy and Strudwick were almost impossible to go with the formers contract 2.3 for 7-8 D on a contender plus we would have to elevate one of our best D from the farm with their playoffs.

McIntyre is untradable and useful to this team as we have no other heavyweight.

Jones might be resigned and if not that does sting but he would not have gotten more than a mid 3/4/5 type pick. but again it would mean bring up a one of the best AHLers away from their push.

Good move for a guy who cost us a 1,2,3rd picks and a lot of grief!!!

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