PENNER TRADED TO LA

Wanye
February 28 2011 12:39PM

According to TSN "The Dustin Penner era in Edmonton is over."

The Oilers have pulled the trigger on a major deal, sending F Dustin Penner to LA for D Colten Teubert, the Kings First Round Pick in 2011 and a Conditional Pick in 2012.

So before we all go out and immediately purchase Colten Teubert jerseys, hats and collectible stamps let's take a summary look at who we are dealing with here. Remember that this is only the start of commentary that will "dig deep" and "find the real truth."

WHAT DID THE OIL GET?

Colten Teubert is a 6 foot 4 inch D man whom the Kings took 13th overall back in the 2008 draft. He is currently playing for Manchester in the AHL. Hmm.

Oooh! And he played for the Pats. And he has a Silver and Gold medal in the World Juniors. That's something ain't it?

REMEMBERING DUSTIN PENNER

Remember the fun we used to all have calling Penner a big blob of donair meat back in 2008 when he was underperforming on his massive contract? Remember how he has shoved it up our collective back side every year since?

We never quite knew what to make of ol' DP, but it is clear that in going to LA and joining Smyth, Stoll and Greene he won't lack for former Oilers Alumni to show him around the beaches of California if he cannot recall his time in Anaheim.

This trade is sure going to leave a massive hole in the goal scoring corps, a rather timid bunch to begin with. But on the other hand the Oilers have hella cap space to do something, if "doing something" is ever in the cards.

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#1 BUCK75
February 28 2011, 12:39PM
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WIN!!!!

Another couple of bullets for MB, a stay at home defenceman "project". I like this.

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#2 clarke
February 28 2011, 12:40PM
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yarg

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#3 T.C.
February 28 2011, 12:41PM
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SWEET!! was hoping for bogosian though.

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#4 MrCondor
February 28 2011, 12:45PM
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From Hockey News:

79 - D Colten Teubert Age: 20 Date of birth: March 08, 1990 Place of birth: White Rock, B.C., Canada Ht: 6-4 Wt: 194 Shoots: R Salary: $875,000 NHL Seasons: 0-R Drafted by Los Angeles in 2008 (1/13).

CURRENT STATUS: In the minors Profile

ASSETS: Is a nasty defenseman with loads of toughness. Owns a projectable frame and all-around upside. Can also score goals due to a good shot from the point.

FLAWS: Must fill out his frame to fully develop into an all-around blue-liner at the highest level. Needs a bit more refining in the defensive zone.

CAREER POTENTIAL: Potential all-around blue-liner.

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#6 freeze
February 28 2011, 12:49PM
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No playoffs for us next year. Who delivers us an additional 20-30 goals next year?

Lukewarm return. I don't like it. Oilers are much worse today.

Nothing like collecting picks in a weak draft.

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#7 The Real Scuba Steve
February 28 2011, 12:50PM
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I was hoping player for player because he was our leading scorer, but I guess draft picks can be looked as a win.

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#8 Golden Seals
February 28 2011, 12:51PM
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Bad Bad Bad. All this huff and puff and this is what we get. Tuebert is not an answer. More last place hockey ahead.

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#9 richards
February 28 2011, 12:51PM
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Hemsky + LA 1st round + Smid for Richards.

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#10 Fresh Mess
February 28 2011, 12:51PM
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So we get a prospect who is struggling as a #4 defenseman in the AHL, and a likely bottom-10 first round pick in a so-so draft year that may not even produce a roster player.

This trade does nothing to improve this team now, and gives me little hope for the future.

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#11 freeze
February 28 2011, 12:51PM
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Oilers were fleeced. This will sit up there with Smyth & Pronger trades. Should have had Voynov.

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#12 Jeremy
February 28 2011, 12:52PM
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That is a fantastic return for Penner. The conditional third next year becomes a second should the Kings make the playoffs.

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#13 edmontoncritic - BRoadwAY
February 28 2011, 12:53PM
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Really need MBS to save this trade. Penner will be a beast in LA in the playoffs especially. MBS oh sweet sweet MBS, please make tambo not look like a retard

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#14 The Real Scuba Steve
February 28 2011, 12:53PM
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freeze wrote:

No playoffs for us next year. Who delivers us an additional 20-30 goals next year?

Lukewarm return. I don't like it. Oilers are much worse today.

Nothing like collecting picks in a weak draft.

I think the playoff picture is not on Tambo's mind for next year, and maybe the year after. Is this what season ticket holders want?

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#15 Jeremy
February 28 2011, 12:54PM
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We didn't get fleeced. It's essentially two firsts and a second for an inconsistent player that scored 30 goals once.

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#16 Haajarverle
February 28 2011, 12:55PM
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So no playoffs next year. Not a fan of this. I know he might not have signed, but still not happy. Don't know where we're going to find another 240lb 30 goal scorer.

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#17 Chris.
February 28 2011, 12:56PM
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Oilers just got smaller... and an already crowded group of very suspect D prospects just got even more crowded. I'm not a Tuebert fan.

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#18 freeze
February 28 2011, 12:56PM
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The Real Scuba Steve wrote:

I think the playoff picture is not on Tambo's mind for next year, and maybe the year after. Is this what season ticket holders want?

Doesn't look like it. I was worried when Lowe said 4-6 year rebuild. Totally brutal.

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#20 Chris.
February 28 2011, 12:58PM
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~...so does this mean Schenn is not available?~

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#21 OHBOY
February 28 2011, 12:58PM
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A project player and a draft pick in a soft draft year... this team is going nowhere fast with the management team. Should trade all of them for a bag of pucks. By the time ,more draft picks develop Hall, Eberle, and the crew want out.

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#22 positivebrontefan
February 28 2011, 12:59PM
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Well Hall's our leading goal scorer now.

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#23 Horcsky
February 28 2011, 01:00PM
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@Wanye

Unfortunately, the Oilers don't need size on the back end. Peckham, Gilbert, Smid, Petry, and Struds are huge. Edit to add Whitney

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#24 Fresh Mess
February 28 2011, 01:00PM
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It is not esentially 2 first round picks anymore than trading away Belle was essentially trading away a first round pick.

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#25 Chris.
February 28 2011, 01:02PM
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Wanye wrote:

Tuebert is 6 foot 4. They may have lost the Big Man up front but I believe the strategy was to get bigger on the back end.

6'4" and about 190 lbs of gangly prepubescent fury. Where's the beef?

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#26 Fresh Mess
February 28 2011, 01:02PM
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God I hope Tambellini hasn't traded Smid , I can only imagine what type of no hopers he is being offered.

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#28 Captain Obvious
February 28 2011, 01:04PM
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Bad trade.

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#29 Banger
February 28 2011, 01:04PM
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Horcsky wrote:

Unfortunately, the Oilers don't need size on the back end. Peckham, Gilbert, Smid, Petry, and Struds are huge. Edit to add Whitney

Put away the drugs. Being big and playing big are two different things. Peckham, yes. Strud, he isnt an every day player. Smid, at times.

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#30 Albertaboy111
February 28 2011, 01:04PM
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I think this trade is a bad one in regards to what we gave up and got in return. Draft picks we will have to wait and see.

Sadly, I don't think we had much choice. Does anyone honestly believe he wasn't out of here at the first "sign" of a good contract. (Gene, eat your heart out)

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#31 Chris.
February 28 2011, 01:06PM
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Lombardi: Hemsky?

Steve: Schenn?

Unison: Can't do that.

Lombardi: Penner?

Steve: Schenn?

Lombardi: Can't do that.

Steve: Then F*ck you. Go down the stretch with what you have Dean.

(What should have happened)

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#32 Horcsky
February 28 2011, 01:07PM
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@Banger

What drugs? Certainly it isn't much of a stretch to say a big player is big?

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#33 Horcsky
February 28 2011, 01:10PM
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@Wanye

The D definitely needs retooling, but size they have. Size at forward, they do not have. Let's hope Teubert becomes a player to help the D. Now, what to do about the smurf platoon at forward?

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#34 Wax For My Stick
February 28 2011, 01:11PM
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this isn't a bad trade at all, i hate that penner is gone but not only did they get a 1st rounder, a prospect and a conditional but we save cap space too which some people seem to forget. im intersested in what they do with that extra cap space now, heres hoping they don't use that space to over pay a player.

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#36 Banger
February 28 2011, 01:12PM
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@Horcsky

Sorry, i didnt see you threw that nasty monster Gilbert into that. Your right, no one else is needed back there.

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#37 D
February 28 2011, 01:12PM
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This is what is being said from the Kings' side (from a fan site called rinkroyalty.com:)

The Kings only had to give up Colten Teubert, a 1st and a conditional pick for Penner, so it’s a reasonable trade from the Kings perspective. Teubert is probably the farthest from making a real impact on the NHL level, and the Kings defensive pipeline is still very strong with Hickey, Voynov, Forbert and Deslauriers, not to mention youngsters Martinez, Doughty and Johnson on the NHL team.

The 1st round pick is a bummer, but you have to give to get, and the upcoming draft is already projected to be relatively weak in the depth perspective, so a mid/late 1st round pick won’t likely net a true gamebreaker. It’s not clear yet what the conditional pick is, but it’s unlikely to be a real huge deal either way.

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#39 Sorensenator
February 28 2011, 01:15PM
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Horcsky wrote:

Unfortunately, the Oilers don't need size on the back end. Peckham, Gilbert, Smid, Petry, and Struds are huge. Edit to add Whitney

Petry is 175 lbs, Strudwick is not an NHL defenseman, and Gilbert doesn't play like the 215 pounder he is.

We need size on both sides of the equation sir.

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#40 Chris.
February 28 2011, 01:16PM
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D wrote:

This is what is being said from the Kings' side (from a fan site called rinkroyalty.com:)

The Kings only had to give up Colten Teubert, a 1st and a conditional pick for Penner, so it’s a reasonable trade from the Kings perspective. Teubert is probably the farthest from making a real impact on the NHL level, and the Kings defensive pipeline is still very strong with Hickey, Voynov, Forbert and Deslauriers, not to mention youngsters Martinez, Doughty and Johnson on the NHL team.

The 1st round pick is a bummer, but you have to give to get, and the upcoming draft is already projected to be relatively weak in the depth perspective, so a mid/late 1st round pick won’t likely net a true gamebreaker. It’s not clear yet what the conditional pick is, but it’s unlikely to be a real huge deal either way.

So much for driving a hard bargain. Once again,Edmonton fans watch as talent leaves the organization for a mixed bag of lesser assets.

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#41 John Chambers
February 28 2011, 01:17PM
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This is a classic Oilers-style trade. Uncreative in its composition - we give up someone of note for the big box with colourful question marks all over it.

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#42 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
February 28 2011, 01:19PM
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Banger wrote:

Sorry, i didnt see you threw that nasty monster Gilbert into that. Your right, no one else is needed back there.

I saw Gilbert throw a hit, once.

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#43 Bucknuck
February 28 2011, 01:19PM
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Very tired of proven goal scorers going to other teams for maybe's. When is that going to stop do you think?

Smyth, Arnott, Pronger, Marchant, Weight, Guerin, Messier, Gretzky.

All those names and nothing back in return other than maybes.

I am sick of it.

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#45 Horcsky
February 28 2011, 01:19PM
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@Wanye

Hard to say who sucks worse, especially when we throw our #1 MVP goaler into the conversation.

Before Penner was traded, I would've said the D were worse. However, I was at the Boston game last night. The similarity between the game last night, and the other ones I've been to this year is that the forwards can't get anything going in the offensive zone. It's a big reason for our low shot totals, I can't blame the D for the whole team not getting shots (shots against on the other hand). Without Penner, we'll be able to do even less in the O-zone.

On the other hand, after HOPE develops for another year, perhaps the forwards are better than the D.

Bottom line: Compromise. The D corps and the forwards suck equally bad.

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#46 Horcsky
February 28 2011, 01:21PM
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@Sorensenator

Petry is 175? I think you need a quick visit to NHL.com sir.

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#47 superkk
February 28 2011, 01:23PM
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What a terrible deal!!! Huge joke, Penner for a prospect and a couple of picks!

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#48 freeze
February 28 2011, 01:23PM
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John Chambers wrote:

This is a classic Oilers-style trade. Uncreative in its composition - we give up someone of note for the big box with colourful question marks all over it.

Haha, EXACTLY!

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#49 Chris.
February 28 2011, 01:23PM
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I wrote this a few days ago:

This is what makes me insane: if Hemsky Penner is dumped (ala Ryan Smyth) for some picks and marginal propects there will be almost no real tangible backlash... And things will continue business as usual for this floundering management team. We will hear platitudes like, "it will be a few years before we really know who won that trade"... Then there will be inuendo that Hemsky Penner wasn't going to resign anyway and there will be hints that there were character issues (again see Ryan Smyth). Once again, like has happened so many times before, talent will flow out of Edmonton and management will skate from any responsibility for failing to create an organization that players actually wish to remain a part of past age 25.

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#50 Cool Beans
February 28 2011, 01:24PM
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Sorensenator wrote:

Petry is 175 lbs, Strudwick is not an NHL defenseman, and Gilbert doesn't play like the 215 pounder he is.

We need size on both sides of the equation sir.

If Gilbert is 215 pounds, 39 pounds of that is hair products.

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