I Love Paris in the Springtime

Lowetide
March 30 2011 07:50AM

A kid from Paris--the one in France--who owns a Spanish sirname is the most sought after free agent in the game today.

Some time today (or possibly tomorrow) it'll move on the ticker: Merrimack center Stephane Da Costa has signed with an NHL team. According to yesterday's Dreger Report there are at least 20 NHL teams interested in the player, and other sources have all 30 teams knocking on his agent's door.

He's 21 years old, 5'11, 180 and went 14-31-45 in 33 games this season in the NCAA. Da Costa has been playing in the USA since age 17 (he played for the Texas Tornado of the USHL. The Ottawa Senators are considered to be the front runners, but the Oilers could offer the same thing the Senators can: money in big bundles and a chance to play in the NHL right away.

Should Da Costa sign and play in the NHL, he would be the first NHLer from Paris, France. There have been 5 other French born NHL players and they are listed here. There have been 3 NHL players from Paris, Ontario: Syl Apps Sr, Jay Wells and Ken Ellacott.

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#51 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 30 2011, 12:39PM
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Mantastic wrote:

it really does make a difference which team they play for, look at keith ballard, D2 for florida but D5/D6 for the canucks. no one could put up the same numbers in that scenerio. different teams have different systems and different depth charts.

so my original point is valid saying that lubo would not put up the same numbers as an oiler this year as he would in anahiem, vice versa for whitney which is pretty evident in last years numbers.

@Crash

+1 agreed

Just so we are clear here, you are saying that:

Vishnoski is putting up better numbers with the Ducks because the Ducks are a better team and that Whitney put up better numbers with the Oilers because the Oilers are a worse team?

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#52 Mantastic
March 30 2011, 12:49PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Just so we are clear here, you are saying that:

Vishnoski is putting up better numbers with the Ducks because the Ducks are a better team and that Whitney put up better numbers with the Oilers because the Oilers are a worse team?

omg... i'm saying they are putting up different numbers because they are playing on different teams.

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#53 who is alright?
March 30 2011, 12:52PM
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Mantastic wrote:

@Zarf

Da Costa has been playing NA hockey for quite some time now... so i wouldn't call him a euro player. would you call landeskog a euro player?

I'd call Chara, Zetterburg, Datsyuk and Lidstrom Euro players...

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#54 TigerUnderGlass
March 30 2011, 01:40PM
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@Zarf

(That said, the poster above who referred to Peter Stastny as an undrafted free agent were technically correct but probably stretching things a tad. Smuggling a player out of a country in the trunk of a car during the Cold War isn't really "free agency," but rather "secret agency.")

Try to notice the context of the statements you quote. Was he drafted? No. He is part of the enormous list of NHL players that were never drafted. The point was merely that players come outside the draft. Sure his circumstances were different, but it doesn't take him off the list and even if it did it would have zero effect on th point.

The more I read about this kid, the more I pick up a Michel Riesen vibe.

So what? Even if he turns out exactly like Riesen we just let him go. I don't see the problem. What is it you believe we are missing out on if we sign him?

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#55 TigerUnderGlass
March 30 2011, 01:44PM
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@Dodd

I think we can all agree that Vis was an experiment that didn't pan out.

What are you talking about. Who agrees with that?

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#56 Shane
March 30 2011, 01:49PM
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LT:

Is it 60 contracts a team is allowed? If so do you know how many we have for next season?? I could do the research myself but I am at work and am lazy but perhaps you know of the top of your head?

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#57 Zarf
March 30 2011, 02:29PM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:
(That said, the poster above who referred to Peter Stastny as an undrafted free agent were technically correct but probably stretching things a tad. Smuggling a player out of a country in the trunk of a car during the Cold War isn't really "free agency," but rather "secret agency.")

Try to notice the context of the statements you quote. Was he drafted? No. He is part of the enormous list of NHL players that were never drafted. The point was merely that players come outside the draft. Sure his circumstances were different, but it doesn't take him off the list and even if it did it would have zero effect on th point.

The more I read about this kid, the more I pick up a Michel Riesen vibe.

So what? Even if he turns out exactly like Riesen we just let him go. I don't see the problem. What is it you believe we are missing out on if we sign him?

Cap space. A spot on the roster. That is all.

Fair comment on the Stastny aside, however. I was merely setting up a clever play-on-words between free agency and secret agency and that obviously didn't come off as clever as I thought.

However, it is still funny to think of Peter Stastny as an example of an "undrafted" player making it to the NHL. His path to the NHL is unique but not because he was a late-bloomer who didn't get drafted. Sure, he was undrafted, but that's not what he was known for. That's all my point was.

He was definitely not drafted but, unlike most of the kids we hear about this time of year, he certainly wasn't the typical late-blooming small forward from the NCAA. He was a known quantity at 18 and 20 and 22 and would have been drafted if there was the slightest hint he might be available (although a lot of teams back then still spent late-round picks on players behind the Iron Curtain).

And, he was also someone's property at the time Quebec smuggled him in - he belonged to the CSSR.

Again, he's definitely an example of an undrafted player making to the bigs, so you're right. But his situation can't be compared to De Costa's.

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#58 They're $hittie
March 30 2011, 02:29PM
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Whitney for Lubo is a good trade. Lubo wasnt happy here and we needed a more all around d man with size. Why with how whitney has played since he has been here is anyone complaining.

Also Vis is getting alot of assists from the extremely hot play of Perry and Selanne. Both are good Dman and in the long term plans i think whitney is the better fit.

Anyone think Perry would be this good if we had got him in the comrie trade. Probably not. We would have screwed it up.

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#59 lenny
March 30 2011, 02:36PM
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who is alright? wrote:

I'd call Chara, Zetterburg, Datsyuk and Lidstrom Euro players...

And what is wrong with being Euro player? Please do not worry, he will not come to Edmonton because nobody wants to come here and be called names. Just ask M. Hossa.

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#60 Mantastic
March 30 2011, 03:04PM
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@Zarf

Cap Space? we have a lot of

Roster spot? if he plays well enough to earn one in edmonton then he earns it and takes one less deserving, if not, there is room on the farm and if he's on the farm he doesn't affect the cap.

nothing ventured is nothing gained.

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#61 TigerUnderGlass
March 30 2011, 03:10PM
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@Zarf

Again, he's definitely an example of an undrafted player making to the bigs, so you're right. But his situation can't be compared to De Costa's.

You're still missing the point. It wasn't a comparison to De Costa, it was a rebuttal of the idea that undrafted players don't become good NHL players. This is what I meant by context.

If it offends your sensibilities then remove his name from the list of all undrafted NHL players and tell me if my point is affected in the least by the removal.

Cap space. A spot on the roster. That is all.

If he isn't good enough and doesn't make the team he goes to OKC and does not take up either cap space or a roster spot.

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#62 Wax Man Riley
March 30 2011, 03:29PM
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If the Oilers sign Da Costa, it's just a depth move. Doesn't impact the team immediately.

I'd take a flyer on it and see if he signs. 2-way deal. Worst case he pushes the guys in OKC creating a competitive atmosphere.

But if there are 30 other teams that will try to sign him, the chances that he will sign here are less than 1-in-30.

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#63 Wax Man Riley
March 30 2011, 03:31PM
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lenny wrote:

And what is wrong with being Euro player? Please do not worry, he will not come to Edmonton because nobody wants to come here and be called names. Just ask M. Hossa.

I think that's the point of the comment. There are very good Euro players

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#64 Jason Gregor
March 30 2011, 03:35PM
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Shane wrote:

LT:

Is it 60 contracts a team is allowed? If so do you know how many we have for next season?? I could do the research myself but I am at work and am lazy but perhaps you know of the top of your head?

Teams are allowed 50 contracts. If a rookie is signed, but ends up going back to junior his contract wouldn't count under the 50.

Currently the Oilers have 26 contracts for next season.

Hall, Eberle, Paajarvi, Horcoff, Hemsky, Omark, Gagner, Brule, Fraser, Hartikainen, Vande Velde, Whitney, Gilbert, Foster, Petry, Dubnyk and Khabibulin.

Souray, Teubert, Plante, Motin, House, Fedun, Cornet, Rajala and Kytnar.

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#65 TigerUnderGlass
March 30 2011, 03:35PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

If the Oilers sign Da Costa, it's just a depth move. Doesn't impact the team immediately.

I'd take a flyer on it and see if he signs. 2-way deal. Worst case he pushes the guys in OKC creating a competitive atmosphere.

But if there are 30 other teams that will try to sign him, the chances that he will sign here are less than 1-in-30.

I disagree. Guys like his have to take into account their chance of progressing and earning an NHL spot.

He would be closer to the NHL here than anywhere else.

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#66 Wax Man Riley
March 30 2011, 04:08PM
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@TigerUnderGlass

You know, this is a very good point. He may want that opportunity. I didn't think of it that way.

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#67 Dutchscooter
March 30 2011, 06:43PM
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coggsforsale wrote:

anybody who the soil trade always does better somewhere else,you cant name one person who didnt do better,im very bitter but this team is poorly run and always will be!

[cough] Lupul [cough] O'Sullivan [cough] Salo

Not EVERYONE traded away does well

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#68 JackBauer
March 30 2011, 08:27PM
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Why would this guy come to this retched hell hole of a city to play on this insanely crappy team?

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#69 John Chambers
March 30 2011, 10:41PM
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JackBauer wrote:

Why would this guy come to this retched hell hole of a city to play on this insanely crappy team?

Ice time.

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#70 Bob Cob
March 30 2011, 10:57PM
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@JackBauer

Your from Flamesnation, beat it loser, but than again to answer your question I didn't know the Flames were interested.

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#71 Dano
March 31 2011, 09:09AM
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Just another small niffty guy that we really don't need at this point in time.

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#72 kanadienkyle
March 31 2011, 09:42AM
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Having seen Da Costa play several times (with Sioux City in the USHL, the Tornado are still NAHL), I remember him as a more physical version of Schremp. He is very good with the puck, and would often do the pre-game solo-shootaround.

I would imagine college has toughened him up a little, but I am not sure his skills would translate to the NHL in a full-time role.

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#73 Mantastic
March 31 2011, 10:22AM
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just annouced he got signed by ottawa.

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