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Lowetide
April 17 2011 09:39AM

Learning to play defense in the NHL must be a difficult process. It's certainly difficult to watch. In the 2000's, the Edmonton Oilers cut off their collective noses to spite their face: no AHL team (or a shared one) in order to save a dollar or two meant those valuable years between 20-23 were a dead zone for defensemen. With the new attention to detail throughout the organization, the OKC Barons are an important stop for future NHL defensemen. Well. How's it going so far?
 

JUST KEEP PILING ONE ON TOP OF ANOTHER

In the olden days--before free agency--NHL teams owned the rights of player's forever, or until they sold them to Oakland. However, the modern NHL team must be mindful of the UFA clock that is constantly ticking. Draft a defenseman at 18, sign him at 20 and then develop them in the AHL/ECHL until they're ready to face the NHL music. There are alternate routes: among current Oilers blue, both Tom Gilbert and Jeff Petry went the college route.

When we look forward to 2011-12 and beyond in regard to the Oilers defense, it's tempting to shoot the moon and talk about Adam Larsson. Elite level defensive talent, already playing in a strong league (SEL) and clearly available. History tells us that the pipeline from OKC will be extremely important for the Hall Oilers over the next several seasons.

A very good yard stick for development is how players are used in the post-season. Development is a key part of an AHL season, but come playoff time the desire to win hockey games means the best group available is likely to make the starting lineup. Here's how things have gone 2 games into the OKC Barons playoff series against Hamilton:

  1. Bryan Helmer (2gp, 1-0-1 +1): Legendary AHL star is playing heavy minutes and in all circumstances. At age 38 he's in the final stages of an exceptional minor league career but is clearly a leader on this team. His goal came at even strength, he's been on the ice for 2EV goals for and 1 against. He's also been on the ice for 2 powerplay goals against, so a good guess is that he's well over 20 minutes per night so far in the playoffs. 3 shots on goal.
  2. Jeff Petry (2gp, 0-0-0 E): It looks like he's getting a lot of playing time in all situations. Paired mostly with Helmer, I'd say they are the #1 EV pairing and likely the 1 or 2 PK group. Petry has been on for 2 EV goals (1 for and 1 against) and 2 powerplay goals against so far this playoff. Petry has 5 shots on goal to lead the D.
  3. Richard Petiot (2gp, 0-0-0 E): He's all over the scoresheet: 4pim's, 2 shots on goal and 2 ev goals (one for and one against) along with a PP goal against. A reasonable guess would be that he's close to leading the team in EV TOI and PK TOI but trailing overall because of Helmer's use in all situations. 1 shot on goal.
  4. Jake Taylor (2gp, 0-0-0 E): Paired with Petiot on the 2nd EV pairing (and 1 or 2 PK pairing), the veteran AHLer has been on the ice for 2 EV goals (1 for and 1 against and 2PP goals against. The Petiot-Taylor pairing is likely well over 20 minutes based on PK time alone (OKC has had a lot of PK time this series). 3 shots on goal.
  5. Kevin Montgomery (2gp, 0-0-0 E): I think he's probably a third pairing defender on this club based on the lack of activity when he's on the ice (1 ev goal for and 1 ev goal against) but that's a guess. Either way, he's ahead of a couple of the prospects based on the fact that he's been in both games of the series. 2 shots on goal.
  6. Alex Plante (1gp, 0-0-0 -1): We know from reports out of OKC that Plante's one game came paired with Jeff Petry, so I imagine he was over 20 minutes for that game. He was on the ice at 9:43 of the first period game 1 when Hamilton scored and was also on the ice for a PP goal against. I have him slotted here because the coaching staff saw fit to HS him in game 2; he might be higher on the list during the regular year but coach Nelson is looking for consistency so that's a tell. 2 shots on goal.
  7. Colten Teubert (1gp, 0-0-0 E): HS to start the series which suggests on that night he was the 7th best option. Suspect he's going to spend all of next season in OKC based on how he's faded since a nice start after the deadline. 2 shots on goal.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

Only one of the Oiler prospects is being trusted so far in the post-season, and when push came to shove Plante and Teubert were odd men out. It's no big deal for Teubert in my opinion, he's the least experienced of the group in terms of pro experience.

But for Plante? Having Montgomery slotted ahead of him should be a concern. I don't know exactly which chair in the photo above that Plante represents, but it's not a good chair. Not a good chair at all.

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#51 Quicksilver ballet
April 18 2011, 10:44AM
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Is Larsson even coming to North America next yr, he may have decided to stay in the SEL one more yr like alot of those Ikea types do.

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#52 Matt Henderson
April 18 2011, 10:48AM
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@Quicksilver ballet

I was wondering the same thing. My guess is that he would come over because he would likely get the rookie max and he could start the clock on his FA status. It would make the most sense that way, but as you say, those ikea types are a different breed.

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#53 Druds
April 18 2011, 11:09AM
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This is totally out of context but I am wondering about good old Penner...I read that article on the weekend about how he is crashing and burning in LA. I wonder where all those whiners who had moaned about us losing him are now...I think that trade is looking like a huge win on our part.

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#54 Matt Henderson
April 18 2011, 11:32AM
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@Druds

I'll rip off another poster who responded the same way before. The guy we got in return was just a healthy scratch in the AHL playoffs. I'm wondering who's winning this trade. To me it looks like nobody.

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#55 madjam
April 18 2011, 11:33AM
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Druds wrote:

This is totally out of context but I am wondering about good old Penner...I read that article on the weekend about how he is crashing and burning in LA. I wonder where all those whiners who had moaned about us losing him are now...I think that trade is looking like a huge win on our part.

Teubert hasn't even made our top six AHL roster yet . What we might get for drafts out of Penner trade might also turn out bad . Little premature to say we got anything of value out of Penner trade ! Penner looked not to bad last night for L.A.. We lost the trade big time unless one of those futures doesn't turn out to be as good as Penner was for us over last two seasons . The odds of that happening i doubt are very good to begin with . Only thing we gained is cap space so far for Penner .

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#56 Druds
April 18 2011, 11:55AM
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@Matt Henderson

Fair enough but I guess it's a bit ominous for poor Pens when his new coach rips on him for the same thing his old coachs ripped him ...lack of intensity

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#57 druds
April 18 2011, 12:00PM
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madjam wrote:

Teubert hasn't even made our top six AHL roster yet . What we might get for drafts out of Penner trade might also turn out bad . Little premature to say we got anything of value out of Penner trade ! Penner looked not to bad last night for L.A.. We lost the trade big time unless one of those futures doesn't turn out to be as good as Penner was for us over last two seasons . The odds of that happening i doubt are very good to begin with . Only thing we gained is cap space so far for Penner .

Tuebert is a raw commodity...its not even close to say he is good or bad and cap space is good depending on where it goes...The first rounder could be awesome and sure its a crapshoot but at least there is a chance at something better.

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#58 Matt Henderson
April 18 2011, 12:17PM
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@Druds

His old coach was also fired and then later admitted that he didnt use Penner to his full potential.

It shouldnt be surprising that Penner's new coach doesnt know how to get the most from him considering it took this organization almost 2 years to figure it out. By the time LA figures out the best way to use him he could be a UFA.

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#59 Kevin
April 18 2011, 12:17PM
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Hope, Hopeless or False Hope..... Not sure which of these is more true when ST discusses the youth the team has not only in the NHL but in the farm. With his ability to assess and the fact that this group of hope finished contending for the toilet bowl for the second straight year and the fact that OKC getting out scored 7-2 in two playoff games could be swept by the Habs farm team. Personally,I see more FALSE Hope and Hopeless than I see hope. ST states that the big club will make the playoffs next year. He has to say that doesn't he ? or , does he really beleive that. One would think the answer should be obvious. If he truely believes that, it should be an interesting Draft and summer with regards to player movement. A number of moves would need to be made for the Oil to make the playoffs next year. Perhaps KL estimate of 4-6 years might be more like it. If this is the case there had better be some pink slips offered to those in the Penthouse in Oiler ville. I hope ST is watching the current Playoff games and sees what team make up wins in the playoffs. I hope he is able to draw some sort of conclusions as to what it takes and what we have and go out at start targetting some players rather than sitting back and waiting for people to call. Wake up ST we have nothing other teams want ! Your phone is not going to be ringing..... I vote ST and KL off the island !

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#60 madjam
April 18 2011, 12:18PM
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We need bonafied NHL caliber players for our team on the ice , more than a long continuing bunch of chances by way of futures . Mind you , our futures are not guaranteed to pan out so far either . One thing we found out is a lack of NHL talent is not a very good way to fill in voids left by letting go NHL talent ! Our AHL talent is not as good as most Oiler fans think to be honest .

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