HINDSIGHT: THE UNDONE COREY PERRY DEAL

Robin Brownlee
April 07 2011 10:05AM

Rising star Corey Perry is just now entering his prime years as an NHL player and he's already a legitimate Hart Trophy candidate as a member of the Anaheim Ducks. Perry could have been, and should have been, an Edmonton Oiler.

In fact, Perry was an Oiler on paper in December of 2003, dealt to Edmonton with a first-round draft pick by Anaheim GM Bryan Murray for Mike Comrie -- with the proviso by GM Kevin Lowe that Comrie and agent Ritch Winter work out a contract with Murray and that Lowe would have the opportunity to speak to Winter and Comrie before signing off.

After Winter and Murray came to terms on a two-year contract at $1.65 million a season, Lowe picked up the phone and informed Winter there was a condition to completing the trade -- that Comrie make a payment of $2.5 million to the Oilers to "top up" the transaction.

The deal came undone, Perry stayed in Anaheim and later in December Lowe dealt Comrie to the Philadelphia Flyers for Jeff Woywitka and draft picks that turned into Rob Schremp and Danny Syvret.

If Lowe only knew then what we all know now.

LOOKING BACK

Fans will never forget the first three months of the 2003-04 season and the bitter split between Comrie and the Oilers. I won't because I was the beat man at The Sun in those days and it was my job to be all over the story as it developed.

I remember the frustration in Murray's voice when I spoke to him on the phone after breaking the news about Lowe's request for that $2.5-million rebate to complete the trade. It's probably the best deal Murray never made. Quite the opposite, it turns out, for Lowe and the Oilers.

I guess it's Perry's hat-trick for the Ducks in a 6-2 win over the San Jose Sharks on Wednesday that's prompted me to pick at that old scab today rather than keep kicking away at the dead horse that is Edmonton's fifth straight season out of the playoffs.

Perry, 25, has 50 goals and 97 points and is a lock to be one of the top three vote-getters for the Hart Trophy this season. Nothing Lowe got from Philadelphia, or in any subsequent trades with the assets culled from it, even comes close.

BLACK MARK

When critics of Lowe, now insulated in the position of president of hockey operations while Steve Tambellini takes the heat, talk about the worst moves he made during his tenure as GM, they often cite the return he got in the Chris Pronger trade.

I always think back to the undone Perry deal, and what Lowe's demand for that $2.5 million has ultimately cost this franchise. I'm not sure what the answer is exactly because it's impossible to know how things would have played out, but, at best, it was not Lowe's finest hour. I think it was his worst.

While it's fine and good Lowe and Comrie patched things up on a personal level to the point where Mike came back for an underwhelming encore tour of duty with the Oilers, that's cold consolation for long-suffering fans here and now.

But I digress. Let's get back to debating how much the Oilers should offer Ryan Jones in a new contract, or whether they should draft Ryan Nugent-Hopkins or Adam Larsson or . . .

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#51 Petr's Jofa
April 07 2011, 01:05PM
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Torres gets suspended 4 games for the hit to Eberle.

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#52 IHeartHemsky
April 07 2011, 01:20PM
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So sad..but all the past mistakes have brought us to now with Hall, Ebs +...so it makes these horrible mistakes a lot better.

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#53 Rick
April 07 2011, 01:26PM
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I dunno Robin even 75 pts seems like a stretch considering the Oilers turned a guaranteed 100 pt guy like Schremp into waiver material.

And no I didn't see any MSM guys call Schremp as a 100 pt guy...

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#54 Quicksilver ballet
April 07 2011, 01:37PM
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Rushing the Pronger trade, handcuffing the Oilers with the Horcoff contract and botching the Comrie trade. Three strikes, you're out, take your buddy Steve with you.

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#55 Rick
April 07 2011, 01:47PM
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If "Katz" keeps this up much longer he will end up with a shiny new rink but no one to fill it.

Pocklington taught the city the value of a location agreement, too bad Katz didn't learn that this city isn't adverse to holding a grudge against a bully owner.

Especially when the team sucks so bad as well.

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#56 ricky p
April 07 2011, 01:48PM
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That's what is scary. The ship is still being steered by the underwhelming management of Klowe and Tambo. I read a story the other day in the Journal about Doug Weight wanting to stay in Edmonton, but Lowe moved him on. Same with Ryan Symth and a few dollars. Same with Glencross and a few dollars.

As for Tambo, the huge deal to Habbi. The Penner deal didn't need to happen. We could have got nothing for him in Feb 2012, as we did in Feb 2011. Are you confident Tambo can put some character on this roster this summer to help the kids grow over the next few years?

Klowe or Tambo would have been long out the door in many an organization.

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#57 Archaeologuy
April 07 2011, 01:52PM
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@Quicksilver ballet

It's not like Steve doesnt have his own strikes against him.

The Khabibulin Signing, Trading Visnovski for Ryan "Sweet Feet" Whitney, the Heatley Saga, and two of the worst ever Oiler seasons in back to back years.

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#59 OILERSORDEATH
April 07 2011, 01:58PM
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Jiimbones wrote:

Let's move forward and apply the learnings. Comrie and Schremp could not sustain long NHL Careers as top 6 forwards because they were either one dimensional or did not skate well enough or both.

Are management and fans smart enough to see that Omark does not have the skating ability or complete skill set to contribute to a championship team?

Moving Omark over the summer will tell me Tambellini is capable of building a winning team by moving a one dimensional player against the wishes of most of the fans.

Soooo you want to trade away one our few players who can actually control the puck down low??

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#60 jimbones
April 07 2011, 01:58PM
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Dyckster wrote:

What his one dimension as you see it? Cuz the way I see it, other than his slightly suspect skating, this guy is gold.

What I am trying to say is his below average skating means he is only effective in the offensive zone. He will never be able to contribute in the other 2 zones and is also ineffective in transition. This is a player who is easy to be fooled by because at times he looks very good, but when you look at the big picture he is not effective. When he is on the ice he needs line mates to make up for his other shortcomings. This is not a player to build a championship team with.

Do you not also see the similarities with Comrie? This exactly why Comrie has bounced around so much. Adds some offensively but gives up more and then some on the other end.

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#61 jimbones
April 07 2011, 02:00PM
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Dyckster wrote:

What his one dimension as you see it? Cuz the way I see it, other than his slightly suspect skating, this guy is gold.

What I am trying to say is his below average skating means he is only effective in the offensive zone. He will never be able to contribute in the other 2 zones and is also ineffective in transition. This is a player who is easy to be fooled by because at times he looks very good, but when you look at the big picture he is not effective. When he is on the ice he needs line mates to make up for his other shortcomings. This is not a player to build a championship team with.

Do you not also see the similarities with Comrie? This exactly why Comrie has bounced around so much. Adds some offensively but gives up more and then some on the other end.

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#62 Shane
April 07 2011, 02:13PM
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Rick wrote:

I dunno Robin even 75 pts seems like a stretch considering the Oilers turned a guaranteed 100 pt guy like Schremp into waiver material.

And no I didn't see any MSM guys call Schremp as a 100 pt guy...

Guaranteed 100pt guy hey?? Where's the guarantee? I guess the Islanders also turned a guaranteed 100pt guy into waiver material and how's he doing in Atlanta now?

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#63 Dan the Man
April 07 2011, 02:34PM
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Rick wrote:

I dunno Robin even 75 pts seems like a stretch considering the Oilers turned a guaranteed 100 pt guy like Schremp into waiver material.

And no I didn't see any MSM guys call Schremp as a 100 pt guy...

I hope you were kidding....

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#64 Dennis
April 07 2011, 02:35PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

I'm in a great mood today and I feel no need to pile on anybody. It's an observation written because it's somewhat timely given that Perry just hit 50 goals and is building momentum as a Hart Trophy candidate.

And one more time: I'm not for a second assuming Perry would have developed into what he is now with this sad-sack outfit, but even if he'd turned into a 75-point player at the top end here, that's damn sure better than what came out of the Philly deal. Yes or no?

I thought something was different;)

I think this move was the first time we saw Lowe's pride and spitefulness influence his decision-making.

The Oilers gave Comrie a good contract when he first inked and felt like he owed them something when he came up the second time. MacT surmised - and correctly in hindsight but it also looked prophetic at the time - that Comrie couldn't match against other team's top lines and this would influence what he would be paid.

Things got worse and worse and Lowe didn't want to send Comrie to his destination of choice without clawing back some of the bonus money they paid him.

I remember the Oilers farming team coming here to St. John's and I went to watch Woywitka and Lynch play and the latter looked much more well-rounded than the former.

I laughed at the time because we had an offensive dman but without the offense. Great skater and decent passer but no shot or vision.

A lot like Brewer and Smid in that respect.

One of these days I'd like to see the definitive piece on Comrie as an Oiler. For the longest time we waited for that complimentry centre for Weight and there was a lot of talk about signing Comrie and bringing him in. He looked good right off the hop and almost immeadiately got to play with smyth and carter while weight took zholtok and cleary. The oilers nearly won a playoff round that year and then in '02 comrie was most nights the only offensive player worth watching and especially when old 94 got hurt.

but his plus minus plummeted the next year and he was done.

he had a good year in '06 but it's mostly been mediocrity.

I doubt anyone would have guessed that after having watched his first 129 games as an Oiler.

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#65 Death Metal Nightmare
April 07 2011, 02:38PM
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Kevin Lowe crapped the bed 10 times over on that deal. but this fact will remain: Corey Perry would not be as good as he is in this matrix of players (or their past players leading up to the present). so crying over spilled-50-goal-milk is ridiculous when he probably would have finished up with 30 (maybe) and most of his potential would be going to waste in this Freak Circus.

hes playing on a team with offensive depth, maturity and guys who know how to play their roles. it gives him space to thrive. he also has Getzlaf helping him and that kid Bobby Ryan.

comparing his production - which still takes a lot of effort on his part - within the matrix of the Oilers... obviously not the same environment... and with that, he'd struggle to create an environment that fosters 50 goals.

4-5 more years were still looking at here, even if Tambo makes all the right moves.

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#66 TonyDanzaPervo
April 07 2011, 02:39PM
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RHN = Schremp

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#67 TonyDanzaPervo
April 07 2011, 02:39PM
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RHN = Schremp

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#68 Death Metal Nightmare
April 07 2011, 02:41PM
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OILERSORDEATH wrote:

Soooo you want to trade away one our few players who can actually control the puck down low??

no kidding. id rather keep him around that Sam Gagner's miniature vulture butt. Omark creates offense. Gagner opportunizes on offense.

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#69 The Real Scuba Steve
April 07 2011, 02:41PM
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Rick wrote:

If "Katz" keeps this up much longer he will end up with a shiny new rink but no one to fill it.

Pocklington taught the city the value of a location agreement, too bad Katz didn't learn that this city isn't adverse to holding a grudge against a bully owner.

Especially when the team sucks so bad as well.

Yea, what exactly has Katz done since he bought this team? Nothing but complications.

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#70 Rick
April 07 2011, 02:41PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

I hope you were kidding....

Really?

Obviously I over estimated this place.

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#71 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
April 07 2011, 02:42PM
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Death Metal Nightmare wrote:

Kevin Lowe crapped the bed 10 times over on that deal. but this fact will remain: Corey Perry would not be as good as he is in this matrix of players (or their past players leading up to the present). so crying over spilled-50-goal-milk is ridiculous when he probably would have finished up with 30 (maybe) and most of his potential would be going to waste in this Freak Circus.

hes playing on a team with offensive depth, maturity and guys who know how to play their roles. it gives him space to thrive. he also has Getzlaf helping him and that kid Bobby Ryan.

comparing his production - which still takes a lot of effort on his part - within the matrix of the Oilers... obviously not the same environment... and with that, he'd struggle to create an environment that fosters 50 goals.

4-5 more years were still looking at here, even if Tambo makes all the right moves.

I've got to say I'm finding it quite funny how many people are clinging to this notion that his numbers would be SUBSTANTIALLY worse here.

Thier are piles and piles of players that move from team to team (or even on the same team as those team dynamics change) that produce at (or very close) to where they produced on other teams.

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#72 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
April 07 2011, 02:43PM
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Death Metal Nightmare wrote:

no kidding. id rather keep him around that Sam Gagner's miniature vulture butt. Omark creates offense. Gagner opportunizes on offense.

Yet all that matters is putting the puck in the net.

You keep the guy that creats like crazy without producing and I'll keep the vulture that produces.

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#73 The Real Scuba Steve
April 07 2011, 02:45PM
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Death Metal Nightmare wrote:

Kevin Lowe crapped the bed 10 times over on that deal. but this fact will remain: Corey Perry would not be as good as he is in this matrix of players (or their past players leading up to the present). so crying over spilled-50-goal-milk is ridiculous when he probably would have finished up with 30 (maybe) and most of his potential would be going to waste in this Freak Circus.

hes playing on a team with offensive depth, maturity and guys who know how to play their roles. it gives him space to thrive. he also has Getzlaf helping him and that kid Bobby Ryan.

comparing his production - which still takes a lot of effort on his part - within the matrix of the Oilers... obviously not the same environment... and with that, he'd struggle to create an environment that fosters 50 goals.

4-5 more years were still looking at here, even if Tambo makes all the right moves.

I don't even think Tambo is capable of making the right moves. Don't we really have to finish last every year to rebuild? Sooner or later our prized rookies might want out of this bottom feeding circus.

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#74 FastOil
April 07 2011, 02:46PM
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I will predict that if Oiler management doesn't get over it's obsession with one or two dimensional players (either because they can't skate well and/or are not NHL sized), our lofty rise will be back to being a playoff spot challenger, rather than a Cup challenger.

I have been amazed (though not surprised) at the difference in how the team plays since the injuries forced a bigger team onto the ice. Not that they have been great, but given some time to me it's apparent they would be effective in all zones. And not getting pommeled all over the ice is a nice change.

Bigger guys like Harti (and Perry sadly) that can move and have skills are very effective and hard to stop. Likely why most of your league top 30 scorers have good size one would imagine, he says sarcastically. They also cause a lot more problems on the forecheck. The opposing D actually seems pressured and like they don't want to take the check, like it's supposed to be.

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#75 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
April 07 2011, 02:48PM
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FastOil wrote:

I will predict that if Oiler management doesn't get over it's obsession with one or two dimensional players (either because they can't skate well and/or are not NHL sized), our lofty rise will be back to being a playoff spot challenger, rather than a Cup challenger.

I have been amazed (though not surprised) at the difference in how the team plays since the injuries forced a bigger team onto the ice. Not that they have been great, but given some time to me it's apparent they would be effective in all zones. And not getting pommeled all over the ice is a nice change.

Bigger guys like Harti (and Perry sadly) that can move and have skills are very effective and hard to stop. Likely why most of your league top 30 scorers have good size one would imagine, he says sarcastically. They also cause a lot more problems on the forecheck. The opposing D actually seems pressured and like they don't want to take the check, like it's supposed to be.

Aren't they something like 2-12 since the last of the major injuries?

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#76 They're $hittie
April 07 2011, 02:51PM
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Rick wrote:

I dunno Robin even 75 pts seems like a stretch considering the Oilers turned a guaranteed 100 pt guy like Schremp into waiver material.

And no I didn't see any MSM guys call Schremp as a 100 pt guy...

sounds like a leafs fan or toronto newspaper who (yes the have actually wrote this in a blog) that we sill soon be saying crosby, ovechkin and kadri. LOL

Kadri is no mor than 50 pts ever.

Schremp was never a 100pt prospect.

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#77 They're $hittie
April 07 2011, 02:53PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Yet all that matters is putting the puck in the net.

You keep the guy that creats like crazy without producing and I'll keep the vulture that produces.

agreed, omark is smaller and older and has not accomplished anywhere near what gagner has in the nhl.

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#78 mayorpoop
April 07 2011, 03:18PM
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TonyDanzaPervo wrote:

RHN = Schremp

how does one come up with this mathematical certainty?

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#79 OvenChicken8 - Team JSBM
April 07 2011, 03:37PM
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mayorpoop wrote:

how does one come up with this mathematical certainty?

Well it's quite simple because RNH /= Schremp therefore this RHN fellow must = Schremp

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#80 Bak04
April 07 2011, 04:18PM
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TonyDanzaPervo wrote:

RHN = Schremp

Anyone who thinks a prospect that gets drafted 1st or 2nd overall is equal to a prospect drafted 25th overall before they have played a pro game (regardless of similarities) should just stick to watching the game and making uneducated comments to his/her friends. Because when you make stupid comments like that on a blog site, you will get ripped.

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#81 Hemmertime
April 07 2011, 04:21PM
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Death Metal Nightmare wrote:

no kidding. id rather keep him around that Sam Gagner's miniature vulture butt. Omark creates offense. Gagner opportunizes on offense.

Brett Hull is in the Hall of Fame. He was king of "oppotunizes on offence". Being where the puck ends up is a lot of times luck, but if it happens consistently I think its safe to call it a skill

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#82 stevezie
April 07 2011, 04:25PM
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In my mind this id different from rehashing the Doan draft or the Pronger trade, because asking a player for a couple million dollars was such an incredibly unprecedented move. Can someone explain to me the logic behind this? Punishing a player is one thing, but 2,5 million? They must have known he'd say no, right? After all these years I still can't understand this at all. You want the money back from a previous contract from a guy who is not currently under contract? That's not a bad GM move, it's insane. Isn't it?

As far as Comrie goes, he had all the tools to be a good second line centre, after Weight left we asked too much of him. I kind of remember MacT throwing him under the bus in the playoffs, but my memory is foggy.

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#83 stevezie
April 07 2011, 04:32PM
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I was serious about wanting an explanation. I am admitting almost complete ignorance of how A) an action this radical was thought to be justified, and B) if it was so important why wasn't a key part of the Philly deal?

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#84 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
April 07 2011, 04:35PM
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stevezie wrote:

In my mind this id different from rehashing the Doan draft or the Pronger trade, because asking a player for a couple million dollars was such an incredibly unprecedented move. Can someone explain to me the logic behind this? Punishing a player is one thing, but 2,5 million? They must have known he'd say no, right? After all these years I still can't understand this at all. You want the money back from a previous contract from a guy who is not currently under contract? That's not a bad GM move, it's insane. Isn't it?

As far as Comrie goes, he had all the tools to be a good second line centre, after Weight left we asked too much of him. I kind of remember MacT throwing him under the bus in the playoffs, but my memory is foggy.

From a business perspective it really isn't that crazy.

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#85 FastOil
April 07 2011, 04:35PM
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Yes OB1, but there is a marked difference in what was happening on the ice to me. Given time the more physical type of play would lead to wins. I can't wait to see the Hartikainens replacing the Brules. Hall's life would be easier if there were other lines that could do some damage and cause defensive stress. And if more players stood up for the skill and could actually fight like O'Marra.

The team play since the injuries is also very playoff suited. The usual lightweight zero forecheck or hitting game isn't. Big players who can move and drive the net don't get stopped as easily by tight checking. I wish I could say the same for most of our smaller forwards.

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#86 stevezie
April 07 2011, 04:49PM
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@OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

It is if you have no hope in getting it. It'd be like asking your boss to double your salary, after you've been given your two weeks notice.

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#87 FastOil
April 07 2011, 05:11PM
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OB1 from a business perspective Lowe blew a deal for what turned out to be a dominant player by asking for something extrememly unusual and likely not acceptable to league policy to boot. Brutal negotiating skills that seem to linger with the team still.

Players don't want to sign here? No kidding with Mickey Mouse moves like that. Bush league, crass. For his sake I hope EIG made him do it so he doesn't have to feel like a moron when he sees Perry being one of the league's best players on Sportscentre.

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#88 Tyler
April 07 2011, 05:17PM
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The funny thing about the Perry none trade is that it actually screwed us in trades twice without us knowing it. The first round pick that was coming in 2004 via the Ducks was... drum roll...Ladi Smid!!! If we had have made the trade for Perry perhaps we wouldn't have made the terrible Pronger trade. I heard Smid was one of the keys we were after there :)

FML

Irony?

Anyone?

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#89 Dodd
April 07 2011, 05:33PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

"Are you confident Tambo can put some character on this roster this summer to help the kids grow over the next few years?"

What has Tambellini done to this point to suggest we be confident he can? I've liked some of his work -- Whitney in the long-term despite his ankle surgery, not taking crap from Souray, unloading Staios -- but his choices on picking up veterans to complement the kids, at least to this point, has been wanting.

I will add to that list of positives the moves he made to acquire Malholtra (the only attempt the public know about). Given the pure mess he inherited, ST has done alot. Keep in mind that for every move he made, there are likely 3 that didn't happen because no team wants a Cogliano, or a Souray, or a Strudwick.

ST certainly isn't perfect, and he hasn't been able to effectively plug the huge gaps in our lineup but anyone suggesting that it's because he doesn't think the problems exist is foolish.

Until he tells Principe about how the Rangers laughed in his face and the Bruins wouldn't take his offer, etc etc I guess we can all just assume he's not doing his job?

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#90 Wäx Män Riley
April 07 2011, 05:40PM
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Was over at Leafs Nation...and boy that's kind of a different place altogether. Steve Lansky is claiming the Leafs will challenge for 100pts next year....

...I want some of THAT Kool-Aid

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#91 Kevin
April 07 2011, 06:03PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Rushing the Pronger trade, handcuffing the Oilers with the Horcoff contract and botching the Comrie trade. Three strikes, you're out, take your buddy Steve with you.

You got that right ! Klowe has single handedly put this team in down ward spiral. His management skill or lack there of would not last in any other market. This barn is full regardless of 1st or last. Perhaps, because of this fact this rebuild could take some time. Sadly as long as we have current management guiding this ship 1st picks alone will not bring winning ways. Case in point the NYI. Ironically 25 years ago the two teams were top dogs. Recent draft history suggests that we may have a find in our head of scouting. Someone needs to assess and mesh what we have and what we need to make a winner. Someone needs to realize that size matters and yes I would resign Ryan Jones. Hemsky should have been traded at the deadline but instead of being the aggressor and making the calls on trade deadline day our GM was sitting back waiting for the phone to ring. Sorry mr GM not good enough! Hemsky value was at it's highest two months ago and hence yet another miss managed asset. Oil management are learning on the job and quite frankly shouldn't be accepted. These are real BIG dollars we the fans are shelling out to watch an AHL team compete in the NHL. We have seen change almost through and through with this team time for the axe to fall on the top.

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#92 hoil
April 07 2011, 06:04PM
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Robin,

I don't disagree that the Comrie money-back guarantee deal was the worst of Lowe's tenure as GM. What I am not sure of is how much of that bizarre request originated with Kevin Lowe and how much of it was directed from the EIG. There have been rumblings about both the Comrie and Smyth non-deals having been influenced by Cal Nichols.

Of course, it probably isn't much different today, with Katz paying for privilege of receiving Steve Tambellini's full attention. In Woywitka's defence, he was a fairly highly rated prospect (3rd D-man by Redline) in his draft year of 2001, while Perry wasn't ranked in the top 30 of 2003. They were both selected near the bottom of the first round in their respective draft years, with Jeff dropping significantly and Corey passing a handful above him. By December of 2003, however, I think it was safe to say that Perry had passed Woywitka in most estimates.

At the end of the day (anybody else automatically think of Chris Pronger when they hear that expression?), it probably wouldn't have made much difference in the grand scheme of things. Perry would have been long since traded away and all we would have left at this stage would be Magic Has-Beens.

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#93 Quicksilver ballet
April 07 2011, 06:11PM
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If Katz wanted to make a quick hundred million dollars, sell the Oilers for market value to Quebecor and buy the Thrashers or the Coyotes at their value.

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#94 FastOil
April 07 2011, 06:18PM
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@Dodd

For me, when I see him pull a deal for quality in which it isn't only heading out of town, I'll know he's doing his job.

A couple of bigger deals, most small. Drafting Hall is not a sign of his skill.

Whitney - great player, serious health issues, not playing. Lubo - awesome year.

Khabbi - YOU'RE FIRED!

Penner deal - scalped (Penner has consistently produced in the top 15 for LW over time and on a bad team - he'll rebound). Got zippo ding ding back, which draft picks after 10th and failing prospects with weak draft pedigree are.

A few minor deals and signings, no real winners or steals. Yes Jones is exciting to watch but his numbers other than goals are awful. Fraser, decentish now but no Peca, and way too light for a 4th line centre on a small team.

Keeping Hemsky over Penner with Hemsky's health issues - folly. Bit him in the ass almost immediately.

If you have the most injured team in the league yearly, out of your 2 best vet forwards you don't trade the healthy one. Very dumb. It is imperative Tambi gets rid of the injury prone, enough is enough - find some durable athletes, they are out there.

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#95 @NateInVegas
April 07 2011, 06:22PM
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At least Daryl Katz gave us Oilers Octane..

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#96 Quicksilver ballet
April 07 2011, 06:24PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

It's not like Steve doesnt have his own strikes against him.

The Khabibulin Signing, Trading Visnovski for Ryan "Sweet Feet" Whitney, the Heatley Saga, and two of the worst ever Oiler seasons in back to back years.

Sooner or later the accountability has to outweigh the trust that Katz has in these two. Tambellini's biggest gaffe to me is wasting 7.5 million dollars of the bosses money on the Souray situation. Have to think that Katz's guillotine is all shined up awaiting the opportunity to serve.

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#97 Cool Beans
April 07 2011, 08:09PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

It's not like Steve doesnt have his own strikes against him.

The Khabibulin Signing, Trading Visnovski for Ryan "Sweet Feet" Whitney, the Heatley Saga, and two of the worst ever Oiler seasons in back to back years.

You're telling me you saw Visnovski was going to lead the league in Dman points? I don't recall too muck negativity towards that trade when it happened. I will still make that trade again.

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#98 Gret99zky
April 07 2011, 08:18PM
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The past is nice, yes.

This team about the future.

And I don't see this team in the playoffs until after 2014.

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#100 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
April 07 2011, 08:48PM
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I will add to that list of positives the moves he made to acquire Malholtra (the only attempt the public know about). Given the pure mess he inherited, ST has done alot. Keep in mind that for every move he made, there are likely 3 that didn't happen because no team wants a Cogliano, or a Souray, or a Strudwick.

ST certainly isn't perfect, and he hasn't been able to effectively plug the huge gaps in our lineup but anyone suggesting that it's because he doesn't think the problems exist is foolish.

Until he tells Principe about how the Rangers laughed in his face and the Bruins wouldn't take his offer, etc etc I guess we can all just assume he's not doing his job?

Interesting, he took the "mess" that just finished outside of the PO and drove them to back to back 30th places finishes.

Well done Steve.

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