FTHM VII: RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS

Robin Brownlee
May 09 2011 07:43AM

When it comes to making the first overall pick at the NHL Entry Draft in Minnesota June 24-25, Edmonton Oilers chief scout Stu MacGregor said last week that he has his guy. I believe MacGregor's guy is Ryan Nugent-Hopkins of the Red Deer Rebels.

I don't know that to be the case because, in a series titled "From The Horse's Mouth," MacGregor did not come out and say the Oilers will follow up last June's selection of Taylor Hall by picking Nugent-Hopkins. I haven't polled each and every member of MacGregor's scouting staff and been told he's the guy.

Likewise, neither GM Steve Tambellini nor president of hockey operations Kevin Lowe has slipped me a piece of paper with the name "Nugent-Hopkins" on it. Still, my gut and my ears spell tell me it's the skilled kid who plays just an hour or so down the road, right here in Oil Country.

With Red Deer eliminated from the WHL playoffs since being beaten by Medicine Hat, Nugent-Hopkins won't have the opportunity to further separate himself from the rest of the pack the way Hall did with the Windsor Spitfires a year ago, when he left Tyler Seguin in the dust. Still, what I read between the lines is there's no need. He's the guy.

"With the first pick in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft, the Edmonton Oilers are proud to select, from the Red Deer Rebels, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins . . ."

THE SKINNY FROM CSS

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

North American Skater

Red Deer, WHL

Final Rank: 1 Midterm Rank: 3

Position: Center Shoots: Left

Height: 6' 0" Weight: 164

Born: April 12, 1993 Hometown: Burnaby, BC

Born in: Burnaby, BC, CAN

NHL Central Scouting’s B.J. MacDonald

"(Nugent-Hopkins) has very good puck-handling capabilities. His on-ice awareness is very good. He's one of those guys that knows where everyone is and where they should be and where the puck should go . . . He can dish both right or left, either on his backhand or forehand with that kind of vision. But not just the vision, but the fact he can lay that puck between the skate boot and the skate blade -- that's hard to find."

-- In 2010-11, Nugent-Hopkins led the WHL in assists (75), finished fourth overall in points (106) and was named an Eastern Conference First-Team All-Star after helping the Red Deer Rebels to a first place finish in the Central Division.

-- He served as an assistant captain with Canada’s Under-18 team at the 2010 Ivan Hlinka Memorial in the Czech Republic, where he won gold and scored the game-winning goal, beating the U.S. 1-0.

MACGREGOR'S TAKE

Scouting Report: "He's got high-end skills, vision and hockey sense."

Projection: "A first-line centre."

Best Case Scenario: "Very good first-line centre."

Concerns: "I don't think it's size. It's physical strength."

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#51 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
May 09 2011, 08:27AM
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Cooper wrote:

Great, so with RNH, both Cogs and Gags have to be moved in 2-3 years depending on what RNH timeline is to the NHL (see Kyle Turris).

Tambi needs to move Gags and his 31st to move into a top 6 and grab Dougie Hamilton

OR

Gags and the 19th Pick and move into a top 4 position to grab Larsson.

Edmonton Oilers centers 2011-2012:

Horcoff Cogliano Fraser VV

3rd straight 1st overall selection here we come.

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Who does COL want? Is it worth it to trade down?

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#53 Jon
May 09 2011, 08:35AM
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Great series, Robin. Thanks for writing these.

So based on these, I would say MacGregor's rankings are probably

1. RNH 2. Couturier 3. Larsson 4. Huberdeau 5. Landeskog

And I wouldn't be surprised if Strome, Hamilton or some other others were slotted ahead of Huberdeau or Landeskog based on what was said about them.

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#54 buttermilk biscuits
May 09 2011, 08:41AM
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RNH it is!

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#55 DBO
May 09 2011, 08:53AM
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I wonder if trading down would work. We need a bunch of players to get us to playoff calibre. What about trading the first overall for Bogosian and Atlanta's 7th overall pick. We would have a shot at either Couturier, Strome or Huberdeau. Solves two problems right away, especially if there is no clear cut first pick. Atlanta (Winnipeg) needs a splash, and 1st overall is a good start, and Bogosian is now a bottom pairing dman who is due a raise. Helps both teams.

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#56 Aitch
May 09 2011, 09:17AM
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I still can't shake the feeling that RNH is going to be one of the those guys that hits a wall at some level and is never able to climb it. I hope I'm wrong. Ending the season, there was no clear-cut #1, yet as spring slowly turns toward summer RNH's stock seems to be like a runaway snowball despite the fact that several other potential top candidates have had equally impressive playoffs with their own teams. Larsson was a beast in the SEL playoffs apparently, yet his stock seems to be slipping. Huberdeau is gone nuts in the Q playoffs too and gaining some steam, yet RNH seems to be separating himself with one good playoff. I'm not a scout, but I don't get it.

Is it just that we're slowly learning that perhaps there was a front-runner all along and that the perception of their being a pack at the top wasn't the reality?

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#57 edmontoncritic - BRoadwAY
May 09 2011, 09:18AM
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You cant go wrong with RNH. Yes its like drafting Gagner again but with more upside potential. Gags was not the driver for his line, that was everyones favorite american, Mr.Patrick Kane. Unless youre a red deer fan or covered the team I bet 97% (yes, being uber specific) you cant name RNHs linemates off the top of your head.

Also, with this oick our center depth becomes quite good actually and can allow Tambo to trade one of them to move up. Horc, Gags, Cogs, CVV, Fraser, Lander, Pitlick, RNH and probably one more taken in the 2nd/3rd.

If any one of the top projected drop, especially Landeskog out of top 3. They gotta take a serious play at movin up. Otherwise I think Tambo moves up but cant get into the top 8. Everyone needs to keep in mind that Gags is a 50-60pt guy. Those are not exactly easy to find at 21 y/o. You better be getting something pretty awesome in return especially WITH a 1st rounder aswell.

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Mark-LW wrote:

If scouting firmly believes RNH will be a legit first line centre then you never never trade away that pick. We all know just how easy it is to find one of those right?

Sure, but you trade down and still get RNH and COL gets all the fancy press that comes with the 1st overall pick.

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#59 madjam
May 09 2011, 09:30AM
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Breakdown of top 4 picks . Hopkins has top eye hand coordination skills with peripheal vision a plenty ! All around ability he ranks 4th , however , in comparison to how far along the other 3 are . The other 3 have size and physical abilities that i don't forsee Hopkins rising above them . Can/will Hopkins fill out and still maintain his few advantages over his rivals in a mens league ? Hopkins is not the best finisher of the group of 4 , and likely will remain so as time goes on .

Three of present group already have what Oilers sadly lack - size , two gifted finishers , and one multi- talented defenceman with size , and physicality ! Thats tough to ignor considering the size of leagues elites now , and the growing number of serious injuries most clubs are dealing with in todays NHL .

Will Hopkins turn out to be any better than Eberle or Gagner down the line ? Not bad if he even was the same , except he is unlikely to be much of a physical asset like the other two still are not , nor probably ever will be .

Hard to passs on Hopkins , but even harder to pass on Coutourier , Larsson and /or Landeskop whom will fill more than just one one of our glaring needs adequately now and for years to come on which to build on more expediantly ! If Hopkins turns out to be another forward that spends an abundance of time in tough areas on the seat of his pants like so many we have now - then it could easily be a wasted first overall pick . I don't forsee the other 3 prospects having to worry much about the physical aspects of the game and thus their learning curves should be shorter than Hopkins by some fair margin .

My top 2 that i think will be definite hits are Larsson and Coutourier - i don't think you can go wrong with either of them .

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#60 Quicksilver ballet
May 09 2011, 09:34AM
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Paging Stuart MacGregor, paging Mr. MacGregor.

Would like to know your opinion on Ryan Strome. Is he a possibility to go in that top 5? Please formulate your opinion to conform with what Mr.Browlee had done on previous efforts, eh.

Stu, see what you can do on that Gudbranson front too....kay?

Thank you in advance sir.

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#61 mayorpoop
May 09 2011, 09:47AM
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@madjam

"all around ability he ranks forth". lets safely assume this your personal opinion because i never heard that anywhere and had i, we would not be discussing RNH as #1.

knowing that it is conclusion you have formulated how did you exactly do your figuring?

larsson is your man i get that, you said it forever....i do appreciate your loyalty to the swede.

if we are so unsure of RNH but PROFESSIONALS, and i cant stress that enough, have him ranked #1 then how are putting so much stock in SC and all others. what makes them better other than a "feeling" not a PROFESSIONALS opinion?

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#62 Sox and Oil
May 09 2011, 10:08AM
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Robin, thanks for the series really enjoyed it. I think most oil fans are so draft crazed right now that you can just put up a picture of one of the top five each day and still get 80 comments.

If EDM took RNH (i hope he drops a name) the most important thing is not to rush him to the show, see Gilbert Brule. We don't need him right away and lets not waste his ELC. I don't know how drafting a C that could/should take a few years to develop makes "deep down at C". We need all the veteran center help we can get, not saying cogs or frasier are vets.

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#63 madjam
May 09 2011, 10:16AM
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@mayorpoop

The other 3 i feel , as many do, that they have a more in depth all around game than Hopkins does now . I like Hopkins , but i feel other 3 give us more of what we need at this peticular time . Thus i rank him 4th for Oilers purposes . Hopkins has more red flags around him than the others at this time , and thus a riskier pick . In traffic areas in NHL i have my doubts about whether he can or will be able to handle it at a high level . The others should do well in high traffic areas . Those observations can be readily made without use of figures .

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#64 Nick Dynasty
May 09 2011, 10:18AM
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If we do take RNH first overall we should send him back to Red Deer. Wait for him to put on another 15-20lb of muscle and let him win a gold medal for Canada in Oil Country. I'd rather let him dominate another year in the WHL like Eberle did, rather than string him along slowly in the NHL like Boston is doing with Seguin.

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#65 Mantastic
May 09 2011, 10:23AM
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@Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

COL needs NHL ready wingers and D-Men. gibby and hemmer could be options to COL but i really doubt it.

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#66 Mark-LW
May 09 2011, 10:24AM
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madjam wrote:

The other 3 i feel , as many do, that they have a more in depth all around game than Hopkins does now . I like Hopkins , but i feel other 3 give us more of what we need at this peticular time . Thus i rank him 4th for Oilers purposes . Hopkins has more red flags around him than the others at this time , and thus a riskier pick . In traffic areas in NHL i have my doubts about whether he can or will be able to handle it at a high level . The others should do well in high traffic areas . Those observations can be readily made without use of figures .

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#67 mayorpoop
May 09 2011, 10:32AM
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madjam wrote:

The other 3 i feel , as many do, that they have a more in depth all around game than Hopkins does now . I like Hopkins , but i feel other 3 give us more of what we need at this peticular time . Thus i rank him 4th for Oilers purposes . Hopkins has more red flags around him than the others at this time , and thus a riskier pick . In traffic areas in NHL i have my doubts about whether he can or will be able to handle it at a high level . The others should do well in high traffic areas . Those observations can be readily made without use of figures .

we can play should and could, maybe, probably, possibly and most likley all day long but i'm gonna get crazy here and say i will go with the high end talent, the one that is ranked #1.

tomorrow may be better for your 3 but i will bet my #1 has a better future.

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#68 DieHard
May 09 2011, 10:33AM
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What do you think of this trade.

Oiler's LA pick plus Edmonton's 1st in 2012 for New Jersey's 4th. New Jersey has to give up a first rounder within the next 4 years so could then do it next year while still maintaining a first rounder this year and next. That would give us Toronto-like incentive to get as far away from the bottom as possible.

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#69 Sheldon "Oilers Fan for Life!!!"
May 09 2011, 10:42AM
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kristian wrote:

Some want to compare gagner to RNH because of size. The big difference that I see is gagner played on a stacked London team. Gagner wasn't the best player on that team. RNH is the best player for red deer. He's also a player that makes his marginally good team mates look good. I've also read that he has all the tools to help make him a very good player in the NHL. Speed, smarts, skill, and vision. They say if you have two of those you'll be an NHL player and so on.

I agree that we need to get better this off season. We need a couple impact vet players. A faceoff winning centre and another solid dman would help dramatically. If we were a better faceoff team a lot of our deficiencies would be corrected.

One last note on size is todays game is well suited for the smaller player.

But not Veteran players whom get big bucks for putting pucks in the net but more solid Defensive players to not only teach Defense but allow those future superstars to shine in those rolls such as power-play.

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#70 Sheldon "Oilers Fan for Life!!!"
May 09 2011, 10:44AM
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DieHard wrote:

What do you think of this trade.

Oiler's LA pick plus Edmonton's 1st in 2012 for New Jersey's 4th. New Jersey has to give up a first rounder within the next 4 years so could then do it next year while still maintaining a first rounder this year and next. That would give us Toronto-like incentive to get as far away from the bottom as possible.

I could live with that! You might get Larson that late even, for sure another good center!

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#71 Mantastic
May 09 2011, 10:46AM
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@Nick Dynasty

it would be worse if the gold medal was won in calgary, which i think the gold medal game will be played in, Rx1 is just not good enough.

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#72 Sheldon "Oilers Fan for Life!!!"
May 09 2011, 10:52AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

If all goes well then one day soon (NOT by next season) the Oilers depth chart at C will look like this:

1) RNH 2) Gagner 3) Horcoff 4) Lander/Cogliano/???

I'm hoping to hell that RNH is that 1C the Oil have been dreaming of since Weight left town. Hopefully the future line of Hall-RNH-Eberle will dominate the league in real life as they do in my imagination.

I can already tell that my obligatory "Oilers Fan Summer of Hope and High Expectation" has begun.

I have absolute faith that Hall and Eberle are the real deal. RNH I am getting more confident in as time goes by and I watch how he played but most importantly he has the greatest potential upside. YOU JUST HAVE TO RISK THE PICK ON HIM because if you do not and he leads the team he is on to Stanley we will all hang our heads for ten+years.

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#73 mayorpoop
May 09 2011, 10:52AM
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DieHard wrote:

What do you think of this trade.

Oiler's LA pick plus Edmonton's 1st in 2012 for New Jersey's 4th. New Jersey has to give up a first rounder within the next 4 years so could then do it next year while still maintaining a first rounder this year and next. That would give us Toronto-like incentive to get as far away from the bottom as possible.

i'd love it if our GM was committed to doing something this summer but alas mr. dithers will be asleep at the wheel.

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#74 Team Stu
May 09 2011, 10:52AM
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Every year the Oilers say they would like to trade up into the top 5, and every year they don't. This year could be different, but if you're a team drafting 5th and staring at Sean Couturier, do you flip that pick away for 19 overall? I doubt it. Will still be a huge draft, with the Oilers having 2 picks in the top 20. They might be able to move up to 10, but I doubt any higher than that.

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#75 Westcoastoil
May 09 2011, 10:53AM
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@Sheldon "Oilers Fan for Life!!!"

So you're asking Lou to give up a 4th for a 19th and a 10th (say). Interesting, but i think the value of a 4th in this year's draft is higher than that.

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#76 Meers22
May 09 2011, 10:56AM
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After watching The Wings/Sharks game last night, If RNH is anything like Datsyuk, how do you not pick him. Sounds like Edmonton will draft RNH first overall and won't be trading their first pick. That being said I like DieHard's trade proposal, but I doubt it will happen.

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#77 Sean17
May 09 2011, 10:59AM
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Great articles Robin. Really appreciate the insight and enjoyed reading them over the last week - better than 2nd round games!! Must be nice for you to be able to do something like this outside of the MSM restraints?!?

Great post by everyone too! I am like a lot of people, nervous about making the wrong choice but, excited about the possibilities of hitting back to back homers.

I love the comparisons everyone pulls out for these players. Like a bunch of Pierrie McGuires! LOL! You could have a drinking game and be hammered for every time he says Drew Doughty is a mix of Denis Potvin and Raymond Bourque (and he always says Raymond, never Ray).

So, here is my McGuire impression with best and worst case scenario comparisons:

RNH: Best - Martin St Louis Worst - Alex Daigle

Larsson Best - Nick Lidstrom - probably unreal for anybody Worst - Aki Berg - do I get props for randomness?!

Couturier Best - Eric Lindros 1992-2000 Worst - Eric Lindros 2001-2007 or Chris Gratton

These are the only 3 I think will be considered for #1. Feel free to post your own best/ worst case scenarios and try to beat that Aki Berg reference....

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#78 madjam
May 09 2011, 11:02AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Mind boggling that you still get that you don't draft 18 year olds based on your needs *today*.

And what do you end up with if you don't address your needs today , the 30th place Oilers with even more voids to fill ! Has the last 5 years of not filling voids promply and adequately taught you nothing to date ? Then again maybe we should draft and trade for all players under 6 ft. as some of wise people seem to want to do . I'm sure that will make us more competitive ( tongue in cheek ) ! Not filling all those voids has put where we are at , and keeping us non competitive . If we keep making same mistakes and not filling our voids , we'll still be noncompetitive a decade from now ! Can you imagine Oilers being competitive without even realizing they could/might be bypassing up on the next Messier by passing on some of these bigger talented players ? Give us a Messier type power forward to move forward with , or even a very good dman would be a nice start to .

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#79 Sean17
May 09 2011, 11:04AM
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BTW Team Hoppy - Red Deer has more Oilers fans for sure! People outside of Red Deer figure we are split 50-50 but I would say it would be more 70-30 in favour of the Oil! Even the Old Navy here sold out of Oilers T-shirts before Flames! LOL!

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#80 Sparky
May 09 2011, 11:04AM
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The other plus side that I haven't seen anyone mention is his two way game. He's pretty responsible defensively and is a puck thief. And come on, after watching Datsyuk last night how could you not one of those feeding Hallsy and Ebs?

As far as the odd man out at C, I think it's gotta be cogs. RNH/Gags/Horc as a top three in another year looks pretty good. Gags could even play first line for a while until the Nuge is more comfortable in the league. That being said, I hope if they do pick him that they leave him in junior for another year. It would be way more beneficial for his development.

When it comes down too it I would rather roll the dice on RNH and his possible "very good first line C" than play it safe with Couterier and get at most a "good first line C". I live in Red deer and have seen a lot of the Nuge and you can see those brilliant flashes. In the end MBS will make the right call!

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#81 @Oilanderp
May 09 2011, 11:07AM
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Team Stu wrote:

Every year the Oilers say they would like to trade up into the top 5, and every year they don't. This year could be different, but if you're a team drafting 5th and staring at Sean Couturier, do you flip that pick away for 19 overall? I doubt it. Will still be a huge draft, with the Oilers having 2 picks in the top 20. They might be able to move up to 10, but I doubt any higher than that.

Excellent point. If Couturier drops, and especially if he has a good combine/interview... there's no way in hell the Oil can get him. Thanks for smashing my dreams hahahahaaa. Bastard!

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#82 Quicksilver ballet
May 09 2011, 11:12AM
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DieHard wrote:

What do you think of this trade.

Oiler's LA pick plus Edmonton's 1st in 2012 for New Jersey's 4th. New Jersey has to give up a first rounder within the next 4 years so could then do it next year while still maintaining a first rounder this year and next. That would give us Toronto-like incentive to get as far away from the bottom as possible.

It may be a bit of an overpayment but i would still do it. Having the 1st and the 4th is like being a lottery team two yrs in a row, only compressing it into one season. I'd even sweeten that by taking back a salary dump player from Jersey as well. RNH and Couturier, put Gagner on the P90X (HGH version) program and move him to the wing, we're much better off with this scenario.

If the Oilers bring in a couple veterens like possibly a Smytty,Glencross or a Scotty Upshall, with whats here now, that 2012 1st pick would be in that #11- 16 area. Without much further veteran support being brought in, this is probably a lottery team next season again.

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#83 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
May 09 2011, 11:26AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

It may be a bit of an overpayment but i would still do it. Having the 1st and the 4th is like being a lottery team two yrs in a row, only compressing it into one season. I'd even sweeten that by taking back a salary dump player from Jersey as well. RNH and Couturier, put Gagner on the P90X (HGH version) program and move him to the wing, we're much better off with this scenario.

If the Oilers bring in a couple veterens like possibly a Smytty,Glencross or a Scotty Upshall, with whats here now, that 2012 1st pick would be in that #11- 16 area. Without much further veteran support being brought in, this is probably a lottery team next season again.

I see you are finally coming around to having Gagner on the wing!

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madjam wrote:

And what do you end up with if you don't address your needs today , the 30th place Oilers with even more voids to fill ! Has the last 5 years of not filling voids promply and adequately taught you nothing to date ? Then again maybe we should draft and trade for all players under 6 ft. as some of wise people seem to want to do . I'm sure that will make us more competitive ( tongue in cheek ) ! Not filling all those voids has put where we are at , and keeping us non competitive . If we keep making same mistakes and not filling our voids , we'll still be noncompetitive a decade from now ! Can you imagine Oilers being competitive without even realizing they could/might be bypassing up on the next Messier by passing on some of these bigger talented players ? Give us a Messier type power forward to move forward with , or even a very good dman would be a nice start to .

Don't you remember what happened last time this team went and drafted based on current need? They ended up with jacques, stoll, greene, pouilot, macdonald etc. in the 1st couple rounds because they needed size.

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#85 Sheldon "Oilers Fan for Life!!!"
May 09 2011, 11:39AM
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Westcoastoil wrote:

So you're asking Lou to give up a 4th for a 19th and a 10th (say). Interesting, but i think the value of a 4th in this year's draft is higher than that.

I was saying the other way around trading Next years pick and this years 19th for the 4th this year.

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#86 Quicksilver ballet
May 09 2011, 11:43AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

I see you are finally coming around to having Gagner on the wing!

I think this is the only way he can remain an Oiler.

There's two hurdles he has to overcome this summer, that's the Oilers efforts to move up from that 19th spot which will cost something i'm sure, or, for help on the back end, some Bogosian kinda deal. If the Eskimos can turn over 35% of their roster, why can't the Oilers?

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#87 misfit
May 09 2011, 11:58AM
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I also believe Nugent-Hopkins is going to be the name the Oilers call with the first pick on draft day, but why is it impossible for a team to have Nugent-Hopkins as the #1C and Gagner as the #2 at some point in the future?

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#88 Archaeologuy
May 09 2011, 12:10PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

I think this is the only way he can remain an Oiler.

There's two hurdles he has to overcome this summer, that's the Oilers efforts to move up from that 19th spot which will cost something i'm sure, or, for help on the back end, some Bogosian kinda deal. If the Eskimos can turn over 35% of their roster, why can't the Oilers?

Those two hurdles arent even really there. They exist only in fantasy. The Oilers arent forced to make either trade, or any at all, if they dont want to. In fact, NOT trading the 19th pick and NOT trading for a young DMan is the most likely scenario.

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#89 Quicksilver ballet
May 09 2011, 12:22PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Those two hurdles arent even really there. They exist only in fantasy. The Oilers arent forced to make either trade, or any at all, if they dont want to. In fact, NOT trading the 19th pick and NOT trading for a young DMan is the most likely scenario.

Can't help but feel with an agressive summer this rebuild for the most part can be in the rear veiw mirror. Move up and grab Couturier and start adding support players. Sitting and doing nothing like you suggest is surely making playoff hockey in Edmonton a fantasy the next three years.

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#90 Quicksilver ballet
May 09 2011, 12:30PM
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@Mantastic

Manny, shouldn't your handle be Mantastic - Team potential 3rd line winger?

The NHL is worse than a 2nd tier league Manny, there's 3 tiers of teams in todays NHL.

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#91 Westcoastoil
May 09 2011, 12:40PM
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@Quicksilver ballet

Assuming of course that the Oilers owner (NOT mgmt) wants to speed up the rebuild. In the long run there may be a view (incorrect IMO) that 1 more year of the poo poo platter helps toward the "we need a new building to compete argument.

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#92 Westcoastoil
May 09 2011, 12:42PM
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@Sheldon "Oilers Fan for Life!!!"

I know. Would Lou give up Courtier for a 19th this year and a 10th next year? would you? We may have to eat some salary too (which is OK). We can throw in Brule to sweeten it!

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#93 Mantastic
May 09 2011, 12:47PM
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i just like the way landeskog plays, i don't think he's a #1 pick.

and the nhl having 3rd tier teams may be true, but that can be said about any league in the world. there will always be runts of the litter.

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#94 DieHard
May 09 2011, 12:56PM
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Westcoastoil wrote:

I know. Would Lou give up Courtier for a 19th this year and a 10th next year? would you? We may have to eat some salary too (which is OK). We can throw in Brule to sweeten it!

I think New Jersey might be looking for a defenseman (Larsson or Hamilton). Edmonton's 1st next year could be a first overall. It is certainly possible and is enticing.

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#95 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
May 09 2011, 12:57PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

I think this is the only way he can remain an Oiler.

There's two hurdles he has to overcome this summer, that's the Oilers efforts to move up from that 19th spot which will cost something i'm sure, or, for help on the back end, some Bogosian kinda deal. If the Eskimos can turn over 35% of their roster, why can't the Oilers?

Ironically enough I'd guess we've turned over close to 35% of the roster every year since the lockout.

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#96 The Other John
May 09 2011, 01:08PM
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OB1 Team RNH - F.S.T.N.F

Ironically enough, maybe they should turn over 35% of their roster with real live NHL bodies because ver the last 5 years the Oiler record is the worst in the league

DEAD LAST

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#97 pelhem grenville
May 09 2011, 01:13PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Paging Stuart MacGregor, paging Mr. MacGregor.

Would like to know your opinion on Ryan Strome. Is he a possibility to go in that top 5? Please formulate your opinion to conform with what Mr.Browlee had done on previous efforts, eh.

Stu, see what you can do on that Gudbranson front too....kay?

Thank you in advance sir.

Q...y'can't page MBS

...y'gotta put up the Bat Signal !!!

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#98 Quicksilver ballet
May 09 2011, 01:16PM
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@Westcoastoil

I don't think Katz will tolerate yet another year of this. If there's one thing Tambellini and Lowe have a masters degree in, it's how to willingly drive a franchise face first into the mud, they've shown they're pretty good at it 2 yrs running.

The Oilers have never been through a rebuild process like this before and i'm pretty sure Katz will run short on patience on this first attempt. It's going to be so weird this summer seeing the Oilers actually doing instead of pondering what needs to be done. Oilers will be much closer to the cap this coming season.

Last year it was the summer of Steve, this year it'll be the summer of Katz, watching Steve react to what Darryl wants this summer will be a nice change.

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#99 Sheldon "Oilers Fan for Life!!!"
May 09 2011, 01:25PM
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Westcoastoil wrote:

I know. Would Lou give up Courtier for a 19th this year and a 10th next year? would you? We may have to eat some salary too (which is OK). We can throw in Brule to sweeten it!

Sorry I misunderstood I expect he/Lou would not Can't blame him.

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#100 Quicksilver ballet
May 09 2011, 01:30PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

Q...y'can't page MBS

...y'gotta put up the Bat Signal !!!

I've had it turned on since 9 this morning and still no response, can't quite put a finger on why its not working properly, i was hoping Stu would check in here like he does a couple times a day and see his valued input was needed.

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