Rumors

Lowetide
June 21 2011 07:49AM

It's only Tuesday, but the rumors are flooding in. Last night, the Ryan Smyth story broke and frankly has to be the best headline for Oiler fans in years involving an established player. Today? The exit list.

First of all, it's best not to talk about the players who have little or no value. Nikolai Khabibulin, Sheldon Souray and others have issues that lower their trade value. Last season as an example, many Oiler fans thought ST could trade some overpriced and underachieving veteran for value; in fact, prospect Riley Nash was cashed in for a pick in the top 50 but the veterans were either bought out, traded for an impending buyout or hung around for another season of mediocrity in Edmonton, OKC or Hershey.

According to a story by Michael Russo, there are a few Oilers in play.

  • Ales Hemsky: Veteran will enter the final year of his contract in the fall and it is unknown if he'll re-sign. Columbus has a pick in the top 8 and Scott Howson would be very familiar with 83. I suspect this trade would only happen if the right player is available at the time of choosing.
  • Tom Gilbert: There's always a need for veteran defensemen with a nice range of skills. Gilbert is a finesse defender who can move the puck well, has mobility and is a very good shot blocker. NJD and Detroit might be teams interested in Gilbert.
  • Andrew Cogliano: I  think Toronto will be very interested in Cogs, and with #25 and #30 that might be stronger currency for other NHL teams. I'd be a little surprised if Cogliano leaves, as coach Renney seemed to be growing him into a 2-way player (or trying like hell to, anyway) and at least on the surface there seemed to be progress.
  • Sam Gagner: I am a little surprised to see Gagner's name here, the Oilers have a solid young center and they don't grow on trees. However, with RNH likely in the fold Friday night the organization may feel they can afford to send him away.

Personally, I'd like to see the Oilers add Ryan Smyth today and a veteran center like Brooks Laich on July 1. The top 14 forwards might look like this (C-L-R):

  • Horcoff-Hall-Eberle
  • Gagner-Smyth-Hemsky
  • Laich-MP-Omark
  • Cogliano-Hartikainen-Jones
  • Brule-Fraser

Defense is still a major issue, and Super Bowl Sunday is a big one too, but there's a veteran on every line and some of these kids are really good.

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#51 Ender
June 21 2011, 11:27AM
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@Petr's Jofa

re: Khabi's court case

The silence is deafening. Back last August when ol' St. Nik was sentenced, the plan that was discussed was that he would appeal the decision, allowing him travel across the border and to (hopefully) play out the 2010-11 season. The only possible fly in the ointment was if Khabi's appeal got called early in which case he'd have had to leave the Oilers at that time and live or die by whatever decision was rendered then. Since the appeal was never called though (and they kind of guessed it wouldn't be) that gave Khabby the option to now drop the appeal and serve his 30 days in the off-season.

The fact that there's been no mention of him actually doing that means one of two things; A) the plan has changed, though I have no idea what it might be for sure (some suggestions of pushing for a re-trial a few months back in February), or B) They're waiting for the time when the public is most distracted (the draft, perhaps?) and then going to quietly sneak him off to serve the sentence with the minimum fanfare that can possibly be achieved. I'm guessing it's option B.

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#52 Pajamah
June 21 2011, 11:31AM
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@VMR

woops, wrong reply

@VMR

Holtby might actually be available. It all depends on if Varlamov - KHL rumors are just leverage to get a contract in place in Washington. If the Capitals sign Varlamov, and still have Neuvirth, Holtby becomes the best 3rd string goalie in the NHL (wow, there's some praise)

If 19 can get the Capitals a Jamie Oleksiak, or Morrow, or someone who may slip that they are interested in, why wouldnt they make the deal.

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#53 Brodie
June 21 2011, 11:32AM
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Oilcruzer wrote:

The more we discuss the possibility of trades, it seems like no stone is unturned, so whatever is announced turns "Rumours" into "Second Hand News"  

The fans "Dreams" of the return of Smytty are refreshing. Perhaps this can dispel the myth of players saying they are "Never Going Back Again"  

"Don't Stop" Smytty, with your tenure and the needs of LA and The Oil, we all pray you can "Go Your Own Way". Heck, we have a "Songbird" singing Kumbaya.

See, playing the game with the Oil is mysteriously being compared to being sent to "The Chain" gang, based on a couple of rotten egg players who were better off living their own, misguided, selfish lives.

Guys like Smyttie, well they make fans wanna cry out that "You Make Loving (the Oil) Fun" again and "I Don't Want to Know" about any of these inglorious bustards who say otherwise.

Whoever the Oil bring in, they gotta make sure they are well grounded with strong morals... Someone just like Smyttie. Last thing we need is some squeals of "Oh Daddy" from another home wrecking "Gold Dust Woman" bar fly, otherwise it'll be 2007 all over again.

I Second That Emotion.

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#54 Pajamah
June 21 2011, 11:32AM
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edit : double woops, that comment was for d-fresh

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#55 TigerUnderGlass
June 21 2011, 11:40AM
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VMR wrote:

A Gagner trade makes sense if we're getting something better back. You have to give up something decent to get something back and trading Brule and Cogliano wont do it. So if you can find the right deal then you do it. Bogosian isnt that deal, to me he hasnt proven anything he's a lesser talent than Gagner.

A good deal would be something like Gagner plus for Carter. I dont think that happens but something like that would make sense.

I don't have a problem with the idea of moving Gagner for value. I just disgree with the idea that he is the weak link that needs to be shipped out ASAP or that he is expendable.

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#56 Matt Henderson
June 21 2011, 11:41AM
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Woodguy wrote:

Agreed on all points.

Its like having a team of sled dogs.

You may get a great puppy who had lead dog material, but you can't get rid of any of your current team until the puppy is ready to pull, and when he is, he won't start in the lead.

Gagner is just getting to the point where he should pull near the front (he will turn 22 in August)

Vancouver's best 3 players when they were 21:

D. Sedin 79gp 9g 23a 31pts

H. Sedin 82gp 16g 20a 36pts

R. Kesler 82gp 10g 12a 23pts

S. Gagner 68gp 15g 27a 42pts

This needs to be repeated for obvious reasons.

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#57 Dman09
June 21 2011, 11:45AM
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I agree there is no way I would get rid of Gags unless one of two things happens. A trade offer where the return is too good to pass up i.e. Bogosian. Second other centers like Fraser and Cogs, yes cogs improved his defense last year but hardly any offense and the defense still wasn't that great, are both gone and we have other more skilled players looking to take his spot on the roster. Say we somehow managed to get RNH and Couturier. Then ya that might happen.

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#58 Petr's Jofa
June 21 2011, 11:52AM
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Ender wrote:

re: Khabi's court case

The silence is deafening. Back last August when ol' St. Nik was sentenced, the plan that was discussed was that he would appeal the decision, allowing him travel across the border and to (hopefully) play out the 2010-11 season. The only possible fly in the ointment was if Khabi's appeal got called early in which case he'd have had to leave the Oilers at that time and live or die by whatever decision was rendered then. Since the appeal was never called though (and they kind of guessed it wouldn't be) that gave Khabby the option to now drop the appeal and serve his 30 days in the off-season.

The fact that there's been no mention of him actually doing that means one of two things; A) the plan has changed, though I have no idea what it might be for sure (some suggestions of pushing for a re-trial a few months back in February), or B) They're waiting for the time when the public is most distracted (the draft, perhaps?) and then going to quietly sneak him off to serve the sentence with the minimum fanfare that can possibly be achieved. I'm guessing it's option B.

Thank you sir.

You've summed it up quite nicely. I just figured that I may have missed something.

New Question: Did Tambo say anything interesting at his press conference?

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#59 Quicksilver ballet
June 21 2011, 11:59AM
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People aren't wanting to move Gagner for the sake of moving him, everyone wants to see him thrive in an Oiler jersey. To date, he hasn't found a fit yet probably because the talent level was allowed to dip so low. Maybe now that there are better players ahead of him and maybe even behind him in the lineup, the pressure may subside a little. Maybe Ryan Smyth could help make him the player we hoped he'd be. If he can survive this week he may get that chance.

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#60 David S
June 21 2011, 12:09PM
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Woodguy wrote:

Agreed on all points.

Its like having a team of sled dogs.

You may get a great puppy who had lead dog material, but you can't get rid of any of your current team until the puppy is ready to pull, and when he is, he won't start in the lead.

Gagner is just getting to the point where he should pull near the front (he will turn 22 in August)

Vancouver's best 3 players when they were 21:

D. Sedin 79gp 9g 23a 31pts

H. Sedin 82gp 16g 20a 36pts

R. Kesler 82gp 10g 12a 23pts

S. Gagner 68gp 15g 27a 42pts

Not to mention that Gagner's production this year was stunted by his being placed with rookies. Take a look at how he did with actual NHL'ers. Pretty damn fine.

http://www.coppernblue.com/2011/6/20/2228380/oilers-scoring-chances-by-line-combinations-2010-2011

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#61 @Oilanderp
June 21 2011, 12:12PM
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I wonder where Gerber is going. They should buy Khabi a racing simulator and a few bottles of wudka on game mornings to keep him distracted. Poor taste? Depends on what you mix it with I guess.

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#62 Petr's Jofa
June 21 2011, 12:23PM
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gongshow wrote:

Locally grown, face-off dude - Vern Fiddler is available, too. I've heard through the Edmonton hockey grapevine that he would be open to moving back to Edmonton.

I like this idea depending on the price. He could fill the Reasoner/Brodziak roll.

He played 15:32 a night (2:53 SH) and was 54% on teh dot and only made $1.1 mil last year. Wonder what it would cost?

Advanced stats guys, look deep and tell me why I'm wrong.

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#63 Hemmertime
June 21 2011, 12:25PM
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http://www.edmontonsun.com/2011/06/21/ryan-smyth-said-to-be-longing-to-return-to-oil-country

Grats to David S on sun quoting him.

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#64 Thinking
June 21 2011, 12:33PM
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First the untouchables and prospects that seem bonifide and therefore would be almost untouchable Hall Eberle Mps Hamilton lander pitlick Hartikainen

Blank. Blank Marincin petry Tuebert/plante peckham

Dubnyk Bunz/roy So holes right now are 1st center (probly get rnh so fill that in.

Then second line center-we have gagner and hes good enough but with rnh we might be too small down the middle, and gagners faceoffs scare me. If we could flip gagner and a pick or minor prospect like martindale for couturier id do it.

Right side is weakness when looking at it like this so hold on to hemsky.

Fourth liners can be picked up easy so no big deal.

Defence is pretty good minus the top pair. We have whitney who is a good number two, and we can pick up a number one next year as its loaded. We should use lower picks to add depth as defencemen are constantly injured.

A great goalie prospect would be a nice addition we should probably use a third or second here.

So this year off season we should Draft rnh with number 1 Do what we can to get couturier Draft a goalie in top 100 Aquire defensive depth in lower rounds Get smythe if we get him cheap (might take omark or brule) Sign defensive specialist like laich

Roster for 2011- 12 looks like Hall horkoff hemsky Mps couturier eberle Hartikainen laich smythe One of those finns Lander cogliano

Gilbert whitney Foster petry Peckham plante/tuebert

Khabibulin/ dubnyk Dubnyk/ fasth type

Forwards are fairly solid but we will probly get a top ten with our weak d and goalies but dont worry help is on the way.

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#65 dougtheslug
June 21 2011, 12:35PM
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RNH is not going back to junior. No way. No how. You can take that the the bank.

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#66 Rick
June 21 2011, 12:44PM
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I read that Feaster is open to moving down in order to aquire more draft picks.

I wonder if there is any chance that Tambellini would offer up #19 and #31 for Calgary's #13 in the event that Siemens is still available?

I would be pretty happy with if at the end of the first day the Oilers walked away with RNH and Siemens.

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#67 Tyler
June 21 2011, 12:48PM
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The question isn't will he, it's should he. IMO that Hemmer stays unless the return is good. NYJ is giong to have to go for the cup soon with their goalie aging. Hemmer to go with Parise would be a hell of a start. If we take some cap and throw in a little something, my vote is go for 4 OV. I don't see Larsson going to Florida as that's their only strength position and COL... I'm not so sure they take him either. I have a feeling Huberdeau is their man. Larrson at 4 OV. Book it.

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#68 Soft Hands McSteeley - FIST Movement
June 21 2011, 01:05PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2011/06/21/ryan-smyth-said-to-be-longing-to-return-to-oil-country

Grats to David S on sun quoting him.

David S would say that

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#69 Wes Mantooth
June 21 2011, 01:05PM
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As I read some good post here, I cant get past the fact how easy we are as Oiler fans to just eat this crap of rumors and speculation up! Myself included!

I was going to post how Hemsky should be traded in a UFA year (If unsigned)for a high 1st round pick.

But really, if the Oilers are rebuilding as they say they are, should they be trying to make the team significantly better this year? why? we have massive hole's to fill still, unless you can trade for 4, top 4 defense man, 4 good bottom six forwards and draft 2 top 6 forwards this year. Then stay the course 1 more brutal year in the bottom 5.

If the Oilers management were to make us competitive this year,then the ability to draft quality franchise defense next year is impossible. Stay the course.

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#70 Wes Mantooth
June 21 2011, 01:16PM
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Also why trade for Ryan Smyth? he's a UFA next year and assuming he wants to come back we get him for free, why give up a roster player or pick? doesn't make sense to me plus he would make us better.

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#71 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
June 21 2011, 01:18PM
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Wes Mantooth wrote:

Also why trade for Ryan Smyth? he's a UFA next year and assuming he wants to come back we get him for free, why give up a roster player or pick? doesn't make sense to me plus he would make us better.

Who says you have to give up a roster player? If Tambo deals Sheldon Souray for him, LA could buy out Souray for the same money and save $850,000 more in cap space (than they would have received from a Smyth buyout) that they could use for other pursuits like signing Doughty.

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#72 Shane Leavitt
June 21 2011, 01:27PM
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"Have now heard from two sources that Edmonton may trade down from No. 1 pick. Florida a likely partner."

- Ryan Kennedy @THNRyanKennedy Writer and editor for The Hockey News. http://thehockeynews.com

Whaaaat???

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#73 Quicksilver ballet
June 21 2011, 01:33PM
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Wes Mantooth wrote:

Also why trade for Ryan Smyth? he's a UFA next year and assuming he wants to come back we get him for free, why give up a roster player or pick? doesn't make sense to me plus he would make us better.

He could be had for a song Wes. Taking Alex Plante in return would allow them the full 6.25 cap room next season. They could also ask for Fraser,Foster or Brule just so they could buy them out and spread that minimal cap hit over two yrs. I don't even think it's a matter of if now, it's just a matter of when.

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#74 Bucknuck
June 21 2011, 01:35PM
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Speaking of rumours, I am curious what type of money Stamkos is going to get. It's funny that he isn't signed yet, and it makes me wonder what kind of money he is looking for.

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#75 Dennis
June 21 2011, 01:43PM
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two rules of thumb for recent Oilers drafts and July 1st activity.

- they don't want veteran players - they always talk about making a move up the draft order but they never do it.

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#76 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
June 21 2011, 01:50PM
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Sean17 wrote:

What time is the actual first pick made at? I know it starts at 5pm on TSN but, what time do the Oilers actually make the pick? 6pm? I am driving to Lethbridge friday and don't want to miss it! I would have my father-in-law PVR it for me but, then I would have to explain what a PVR is, then what a remote control is, then what batteries the remote control needs, no don't press video source, okay then what input are you on, what do you mean there is no audio, which remote are you using...

Haha, I know the feeling.

"PC Load Letter? Mom, get away from the printer. I'm talking about the television."

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#77 Matt Henderson
June 21 2011, 02:02PM
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Shane Leavitt wrote:

"Have now heard from two sources that Edmonton may trade down from No. 1 pick. Florida a likely partner."

- Ryan Kennedy @THNRyanKennedy Writer and editor for The Hockey News. http://thehockeynews.com

Whaaaat???

I will throw up if they pass on RNH. Throw up. I'm not even joking.

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#78 DieHard
June 21 2011, 02:04PM
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I say, give LA back their third next year for Captain Canada.

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#79 @Oilanderp
June 21 2011, 02:09PM
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@Matt Henderson

It depends on what they get. Would you give up Hall for Seguin and Skinner? We won't know if the scouts know something we don't until a few years down the road. Maybe giving up on RNH in order to get Larsson and Couturier is the way to go? Who knows, but yeah I feel a little sick too heh.

All i can say is that prospect "Litdabed" to be drafted in 2014 looks like the next Gretzky! Now if we can only think of a tanking slogan.....

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#80 smytty777
June 21 2011, 02:11PM
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Woodguy wrote:

Smytty777,

Good points, both of those are important and certainly impact those numbers.

PKSV%

Graber .915 Bailey .908 Nielsen .898 Bomeau .892 Konopka .819

Certainly the PKSV% contributed to his massive GAON/60, but not nearly enough to account for it being double as far as quick math tells me.

Zonestarts

Konopka had one of the toughest zone starts in the league and that will certainly hurt his RelCor, but again its not the whole story.

He also had a +/-/60 of -1.31, one of the worst in the league.

Also remember he is playing against he worst players on the other team.

Maholtra (who obviously is 10x the player Konopka is) had the single toughest zone start in the league (25%), but still managed a +0.61/60 against the toughest competitors VAN faced.

Konopka's dismal numbers while playing 4th line minutes states clearly that he is an AHLer at best.

TBY gave him a spin for a year and let him go. NYI gave him a spin for a year and let him go.

EDM shouldn't go near him.

WG, Konopka is not great, no doubt, but he wins faceoffs and fights a tonne. He also kills penalties. So he has some value in a limited role. At the end of the day you can't overpay him (in term or dollars) as he is a 4th liner at best.

I haven't run the numbers (too lazy), but on a quick look I would agree that the zonestart hurts, but doesn't do enough to explain his number.

I think you might be underestimating the PKSV% number as that is a massive difference between Konopka and the others. If you flip Grabner and Konopka's SV% Konopka goes from 21 goals agaisnt to about 10 and Grabner goes from 7 goals agaisnt to about 15 so it is playing a huge role in the GAON/60 number.

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#81 Ball Buster
June 21 2011, 02:12PM
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Never mind.

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#82 Rexall Robots
June 21 2011, 02:18PM
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LT,

Stop pumping the "Let's sign Brooks Laich" balloon. It's not going to happen.

Would it be great if the Oilers could sign Laich? Absolutely. That being said, why would Laich, a impending free agent with his choice of teams, want to sign with the Oilers?

There is a far better chance he returns to the Caps, or goes to another real contender, before he even explores the possibility of signing with the rebuilding Oilers.

Please stop wishing for Laich, stick to what might realistically happen.

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#83 Matt Henderson
June 21 2011, 02:18PM
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@@Oilanderp

I was on team Seguin anyway (Stanley Cup Winner, just sayin) and Skinner is a Calder finalist, but I think I'd take the best player over the other two combined. Maybe I'm just sick in the head though.

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#84 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
June 21 2011, 02:29PM
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Rexall Robots wrote:

LT,

Stop pumping the "Let's sign Brooks Laich" balloon. It's not going to happen.

Would it be great if the Oilers could sign Laich? Absolutely. That being said, why would Laich, a impending free agent with his choice of teams, want to sign with the Oilers?

There is a far better chance he returns to the Caps, or goes to another real contender, before he even explores the possibility of signing with the rebuilding Oilers.

Please stop wishing for Laich, stick to what might realistically happen.

Decent players sign with bottom feeders all the time.

Sure it's unlikely, but who knows.

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#85 Oilcruzer
June 21 2011, 02:52PM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

sweet jesus that looks like the most expensive 3rd line in hockey

Smyth Horcoff Hemsky as a third line. Funniest thing I read this week.

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#86 OilerLand
June 21 2011, 03:15PM
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I would trade down with COL if they promise not to take the player we want.

But trading down with FLA makes little sense.

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#87 Lochenzo
June 21 2011, 03:17PM
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Went back and looked at the 2008 draft class. The Oil gave up their 1st, 2nd and 3rd rd picks for the offer sheet to Penner. The Oil 1st rounder was the 12th pick. Anaheim traded the the 12th pick to LA. LA swapped the 12th for the 13th pick plus a 3rd round pick from Buffalo. Buffalo then grabbed Tyler Myers. The 13th pick was Colten Teubert (kinda full circle).

LA already drafted right shooting Drew Doughty so not getting Myers was not a big deal at the time. The Oil had the 22nd pick, so they were comfortable losing picks to sign Penner. But looking back, I'm sure both LA and Edmonton would have been happy to have Tyler Myers.

It's always risky to trade away 1st round picks as well as trade down. It can result in feelings of severe regret.

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#88 Souby
June 21 2011, 03:24PM
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Lochenzo wrote:

Went back and looked at the 2008 draft class. The Oil gave up their 1st, 2nd and 3rd rd picks for the offer sheet to Penner. The Oil 1st rounder was the 12th pick. Anaheim traded the the 12th pick to LA. LA swapped the 12th for the 13th pick plus a 3rd round pick from Buffalo. Buffalo then grabbed Tyler Myers. The 13th pick was Colten Teubert (kinda full circle).

LA already drafted right shooting Drew Doughty so not getting Myers was not a big deal at the time. The Oil had the 22nd pick, so they were comfortable losing picks to sign Penner. But looking back, I'm sure both LA and Edmonton would have been happy to have Tyler Myers.

It's always risky to trade away 1st round picks as well as trade down. It can result in feelings of severe regret.

I don't know how long that took you, but thanks for the info. If we could go back, I would love to have Myers in Oiler silks. Too bad hindsight is always better than eyesight!

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#89 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
June 21 2011, 03:25PM
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OilerLand wrote:

I would trade down with COL if they promise not to take the player we want.

But trading down with FLA makes little sense.

"I would trade down with COL if they promise not to take the player we want."

That's an ..... interesting line of thought.

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#90 BadSeed
June 21 2011, 03:31PM
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@OilerLand

Why would COL do that then?

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#91 BadSeed
June 21 2011, 03:32PM
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It wasn't LA - it was Anaheim.

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#92 Bucknuck
June 21 2011, 03:51PM
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Rexall Robots wrote:

LT,

Stop pumping the "Let's sign Brooks Laich" balloon. It's not going to happen.

Would it be great if the Oilers could sign Laich? Absolutely. That being said, why would Laich, a impending free agent with his choice of teams, want to sign with the Oilers?

There is a far better chance he returns to the Caps, or goes to another real contender, before he even explores the possibility of signing with the rebuilding Oilers.

Please stop wishing for Laich, stick to what might realistically happen.

I hope the Oilers Sign Laich, just so LT can say "stick it.". Not that he would, because's he's classy and stuff... but... you know.

They would probably have to overpay for Laich, and they might be able to sell our "rebuild" better if they get a veteran or two in the next few days. Someone like, say... RYAN SMYTH.

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#93 Truth
June 21 2011, 04:16PM
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OilerLand wrote:

I would trade down with COL if they promise not to take the player we want.

But trading down with FLA makes little sense.

Now if Tambi could do this over and over trading for a second round pick each time all the way out of the first round, the Oil could get RNH AND every single pick in the second round.

Genius really. Who would call him a dummy then?

I wish.

However, if STU believes Larsson, Huberdeau, or anyone else is the best talent and RNH is a lock to be picked by COL I would hope they make some sort of a deal.

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#94 The Bloody Glove
June 21 2011, 04:27PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Gilbert to Detroit seems like a possibilty, not sure i'd take either of those two dudes back though, maybe a second rounder. Gilbert and the 8th for Gudbranson.

Ryan Malone, he's interesting, the quest for Richards is probably down to a 3 horse race now with the Lightning being one of the favorites.

FYI: When you turn your Xbox off at 4am, you have to remember that the trades you just made didn't happen in real life.

- Just looking out for you

Tell me where this 8th overall pick came from?

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#95 In the Grease
June 21 2011, 04:35PM
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@Oilanderp wrote:

It depends on what they get. Would you give up Hall for Seguin and Skinner? We won't know if the scouts know something we don't until a few years down the road. Maybe giving up on RNH in order to get Larsson and Couturier is the way to go? Who knows, but yeah I feel a little sick too heh.

All i can say is that prospect "Litdabed" to be drafted in 2014 looks like the next Gretzky! Now if we can only think of a tanking slogan.....

Lol. I believe LT had spelled prospect's name is spelled "Littdabed"... wouldn't want to start falling into the Gagner/Ganger trap already...

And I'm already pushing "Fail for Nail" for 2012's tank slogan to anyone who will listen.

Also, does anyone else feel themselves slowly slipping into a coma when listening to Tambellini speak in public... someone please replace the cream in his morning coffee with "5 Hour Energy" Drink....

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#96 Fee Logolin
June 21 2011, 04:54PM
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Staffer was floating the idea of Brule going to LA for Smyth as the key components of a deal. Let's assume RNH goes #1 and PLAYS for the Oil this year. Is Gagner expendable then? Is he attractive enough to Columbus to get #8? Might have to take back a salary like Commodore to do it? Then #8 & 19 to get into Top 5 again?

Start year off with

Horcoff-Hall-Eberle RNH-Smyth-Hemsky ????-MP-Omark Lander-Hartikainen-Jones Cogliano-Fraser

A guy like Fiddler would be a great 3rd line center, or Cogs fits in there.

D gets a bit better too? Lots of assets??

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#97 Wes Mantooth
June 21 2011, 04:59PM
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@Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things

Dealing Souray for anyone is a pipe dream! it's not happening no matter how bad you want him gone. If you were L.A and know Souray will be bought out, or next year become a UFA why would you get rid of a roster player for him?

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#98 In the Grease
June 21 2011, 05:02PM
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Matt Henderson wrote:

I will throw up if they pass on RNH. Throw up. I'm not even joking.

Possibly quite puke-worthy indeed.

What would a trade down with Florida look like?

Tambellini said in the press conference it would have to be a "no-brainer", which is fodder for comedy in and of itself given the source, but staying on topic, any reasonable guesses?

I might be able to choke back most of the vomit if it were...

To Edmonton:

3rd pick Gudbranson

To Florida:

1st pick 31st pick Plante

I know it would mean Tallon giving up possibly 2 young premiere defenseman (if they had Larsson targeted with their pick), but he does have a track record of 2nd round home runs in drafting D, plus may feel Gudbranson won't sign, and he gets back a former first round D prospect in Plante... so maybe?

Oilers could grab Huberdeau....

The bucket will be within reach on Friday.

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#99 Dog Train
June 21 2011, 05:08PM
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I would be very much in favour of those lines. I would like to add 2 veterans who can play in our top 9. I never figured that Smytty would be one but the fan in me can't help but hope that this happens. It's not often that you get the chance to right a wrong and heart left Edmonton way too early.

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#100 russ99
June 21 2011, 05:11PM
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Rexall Robots wrote:

LT,

Stop pumping the "Let's sign Brooks Laich" balloon. It's not going to happen.

Would it be great if the Oilers could sign Laich? Absolutely. That being said, why would Laich, a impending free agent with his choice of teams, want to sign with the Oilers?

There is a far better chance he returns to the Caps, or goes to another real contender, before he even explores the possibility of signing with the rebuilding Oilers.

Please stop wishing for Laich, stick to what might realistically happen.

With the cap increasing and that type of player in demand, there's little chance the Oilers are going to get Laich.

Not because he wouldn't come here, which is speculation - but because he's going to get a multi-year big contract, which we're not handing out at this point in the rebuild, especially for a 3rd line center.

As for the Florida rumor, that wouldn't surprise me.

As per Steve's quotes "that can bring to us something that we don’t have, that maybe isn’t there right now but maybe a couple of years from now is going to be obviously elite."

That doesn't especially match up well with RNH.

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