Glass Half Full?

Lowetide
June 04 2011 08:18AM

There seems to be a lot of concern among OilersNation draft observers about making the wrong choice at number one in this year's edition. There's another way to look at this: there are no wrong answers. Not from here. 

Not long ago, commenter "Steve Smith" posted something along the lines of "this may be the draft where the cards are stacked against Stu MacGregor." Point being that although the Oilers have secured the top overall selection, there doesn't seem to be a pure #1 overall pick (in historic terms).

I think it comes down to how you frame the issue, and answering the question "what is reasonable?" when it comes to expectations. ALL of the draft services and ALL of the observers say this is a 4 or 5 man race for number one. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Adam Larsson, Sean Couturier, Gabriel Landeskog and Jonathan Huberdeau all look like they could be the best player from this draft a decade gone.

It seems to me that if everyone agrees there are 5 horses in the race and on raceday it's a photo finish, then it is completely reasonable to suggest that the Edmonton Oilers should choose the guy they believe will be the best and then put the entire matter to bed. Although that isn't how it'll go--Steve is right, MBS is in a no-win situation and there's every chance it'll bite him in the ass if he can't look five years into the future with aplomb--sometimes you have to take your chances at the draft.

I believe the Edmonton Oilers will take Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. Bob McKenzie put the seeds of doubt in my mind last night during the draft lottery show. He detailed a conversation he'd had with Steve Tambellini after the Oilers GM returned from seeing Adam Larsson during the SEL playoffs. McKenzie stated that in his opinion the Oilers had two players in their cross hairs-RNH and Adam Larsson.

It should be a very interesting draft.

Starting today and going through the night of the draft (obviously you have to email before the draft begins), Nation Radio will be conducting our first contest. The prize? An authentic Oilers jersey with the name of Edmonton's first pick at the 2011 entry draft on the back. Wanye is picking bottles on the side of the road as we speak, and we're convinced he'll have enough by draft day to cover it.

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This weeks' guests:

  • David Staples from the Edmonton Journal. We'll talk arena, the draft and have a solid look at his error stat and what it told us about last season's Oilers.
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#1 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
June 04 2011, 09:12AM
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Wish me luck today, guys. I'm trying for Jets season tickets - probably the only way I have a chance to see the Oilers this coming season short of flying to Edmonton.

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#2 T.C.
June 04 2011, 08:25AM
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had the chance and didn't take it!

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I agree that a draft day deal has to go down. But Maggie and #19??

What about Cogs, 19 and 31. Maybe throw Laddy in to sweeten it if need be?

We NEED a second pick in the top 5.

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#4 Ferg
June 04 2011, 08:31AM
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Not today boys. LT, was there any info from the combine that shows who the oiler scouts are looking their later picks?

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#5 Captain Obvious
June 04 2011, 09:46AM
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@NateInVegas wrote:

If it's a 4 or 5 man race for 1st overall, shouldn't Tambellini do everything possible to get that additional pick?

The Oilers can't afford to leave the draft without getting a #1 Center. I'd consider moving Paajarvi & #19 for a chance at RNH & Couturier.

Even if it means another season of futility...

That would be exceedingly stupid. The reason that it is a five person race for #1 overall is that none of them are good enough. In a normal draft year these guys wouldn't be in the conversation. Paajarvi by himself is worth more than the #5 pick.

Hemsky, Gagner, Paajarvi, all of these guys are worth more than a top ten pick. They were top ten picks themselves and have exceeded expectations at the NHL level (yes, even Gagner). Trading actually good players for draftpicks is wishcasting.

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#6 Quicksilver ballet
June 04 2011, 11:14AM
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Don't like seeing the name Paajarvi being thrown around here. The only scenario to which Magnus may be included in is that blockbuster with Florida. It better include their third selection AND Gudbranson for that price. Paajarvi and the 8th** and possibly even the 31st pick in this summers draft.

**Hemsky+ and the 19th to Columbus for their 8th. Howson would love to have Hemsky to go with his shiney and new Ryan Johansen this fall. A healthy Hemsky could mean 2 rounds in the playoffs for the Jackets next yr.

Hopkins,Couturier and Gudbranson will be fine additions to the Oilers lineup. Netting these top three selections in one draft would be a fine summers work for those highly paid suits who've been sitting on their hands for two yrs now.

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#7 David S
June 04 2011, 04:13PM
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Trading actually good players for draftpicks is wishcasting freaking dumb.

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#8 Archaeologuy
June 04 2011, 06:59PM
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What's all this talk about there being a lot of players fighting for #1 status in this draft?

Did everyone fail to notice that 1 singular player has been deemed #1 by every major scouting service, the Mackenzie polled scouts, and the scouts Gregor has polled?

RNH is as close to "consensus #1 pick" as there has been since Stamkos was taken.

If the Oilers select anyone else, they are going off the board.

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#9 pelhem grenville
June 05 2011, 05:19AM
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my morning bowel movement was accompanied by deep thought...

... trade Sheldon Souray for Thomas Kaberle

... do it!

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#10 Archaeologuy
June 05 2011, 09:20AM
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Anyone still suggesting that the Oilers should trade the 1st overall pick and move down best start taking their meds. The 1st pick in the draft is far more valuable than the proposed returns Ive seen here would indicate.

Teams literally need to knock you over with a return in order to even think about it. That doesnt mean taking back questionable prospects like Gudbranson or players like Bogosian. It means robbing another team of their blue chippers and still asking for more.

Moving up from 19 by packaging it and 31 and throwing in 1 roster player who is older than 23 is reasonable. Adding anyone named Paajarvi, Eberle, or Gagner qualifies you for immediate lobotomy. Teams that move down rarely require more than the extra picks, so throwing in good young players is overkill.

That said, doing nothing on draft day still nets the Oilers 3 players in the top 31, and there is nothing wrong with that.

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#11 @NateInVegas
June 04 2011, 09:05AM
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If it's a 4 or 5 man race for 1st overall, shouldn't Tambellini do everything possible to get that additional pick?

The Oilers can't afford to leave the draft without getting a #1 Center. I'd consider moving Paajarvi & #19 for a chance at RNH & Couturier.

Even if it means another season of futility...

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#12 shanetrain
June 04 2011, 09:31AM
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Oleksiak = sleeper!

Hard to pass on that size!

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#13 @NateInVegas
June 04 2011, 10:06AM
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Captain Obvious,

"Paajarvi by himself is worth more than the #5 pick."

That's the point. Couturier won't be available past #6 and it takes equal value going the other way.

Trading Paajarvi for #7,8,9,10 would be dumb, but if you can get #3,4,5 in this year's draft it would be an upgrade.

It takes more risk off of the #1 pick, spreads the entry level contracts out an extra year, and Edmonton does have a 'depth' on LW.

Other NHL GM's should ask for Eberle,Paajarvi, or Edmonton's 1st in 2012 to get in the top 4 this year. Wouldn't you?

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#14 fuzzy muppet
June 04 2011, 10:49AM
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The price to move into the top 5 is going to be too high. maybe 7-11 is doable. To move in to the top 5, you're talking 19, next years first or MPS/Eberle. No thanks.

Next years draft is MUCH better.

It should be a fun draft. Good thing I've got tickets :)

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#15 Ryan2
June 04 2011, 11:51AM
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WTF? People are throwing MPS out as being available? Did any of you watch him over the last half of the season? How many 6'3", 200 lb players in the league can skate like him, are defensively responsible, and can score at 20 years old? We all complain that the Oilers are too small and now some are advocating trading the biggest young forward on the team for a prospect that may or may not pan out?

MPS was solid defensively year round, but it was in the second half where he finally had enough confidence to use his size and wheels to go wide or just drive the net to create a chance. I can't remember which game it was, but one of the last ones I went to MPS was trapped and just drove through the D-man to the net to create a chance and draw a penalty in the 2nd period. That sparked the team and gave him the confidence to do it 2 or 3 more times that game. Give him 2 more years of development and another 10 - 20 lbs of muscle, and how do opposing d-men contain him? This is what the Oilers need, not a smaller prospect or a bigger winger that does skate as well.

FWIW, I would not be surprised if MPS ends up being a better player than Eberle 5 years from now. You can't teach size or world class speed, and MPS has them both.

As Brownlee's chats with MBS pointed out, this is a weak draft year which is why it is a crapshoot for the top 5 of the draft. Remember what he said about Couturier and Hubredeau? It does not look like there is a Taylor Hall, Tyler Seguin, Ryan Johansen, or even Cam Fowler in this draft class. The top winger in this draft is Landeskog, but does he skate well enough to be a top end player in the league? In addition, if he is considered to be a big winger/power forward at 6' and 201 lbs (hockeydb mearsurables), what can we say about MPS at 6'3" and 200 lbs?

Again, fans are falling in love with the "potential" of draft picks. I can remember not that long ago when the Oilers had/traded for 3 first round picks in a weak draft year. How is that one looking 4 years out now? There was one elite player that was smaller but could skate and had a high compete level in Patrick Kane, and then a lot of potential 2nd and 3rd line forward talent after that. Looking at the performance of players to date, the Oilers scored a steal with Gagner at #7 in a down draft year. Why would anyone trade MPS for a chance at another Kyle Turris, Sam Gagner, or James Van Riemsdyk (closest comparison to MPS)?

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#16 jake
June 04 2011, 12:03PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

Sell-out confirmed.

5900 tickets sold in 4 seconds.

Good stuff Winnipeggers/Manitobans, these are multiyear committments....I guess it will work then in Winnipeg.....and Bettman sat there like his dog died at that press conference, saying it won't work if blah blah blah...wonder if he attended that mock funeral service in Atlanta .....ascend this up backside GB.

I learned on Prime Time Sports that teams to get revenue sharing need to sell X tickets (price irrelevant), and some teams buy their own tickets at dirt cheap prices (buck a ticket) to raise the numbers to qualify.

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#17 OilLeak
June 04 2011, 12:16PM
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No way are the Oilers getting another top 5 pick unless Hemsky is part of the deal, lets take at needs of teams drafting below us:

2. Coloarado (Still rebuilding themselves and need high quality prospects)

3. Florida (Glorified AHL team at this point and Tallon is restocking the cupboards)

4. New Jersey ( Highest pick they've had in the last decade, however could use the pick to get themselves out of a troubling cap situation)

5.New York Islanders ( Garth Snow will continue his trend of pushing young players in the NHL, while trading away all the vets [sound familiar?])

6. Ottawa Senators ( Beginning their rebuild and need that Star Prospect [ Strome? Zibanejad?])

7. Winnipeg ( No way, no how are they trading this pick)

Which leaves Columbus at number 8. Could be in play, Columbus needs a puck moving defenseman and we don't have one to give up. I would think it would take at least Hemsky to get this pick as well.

The Boston pick could also be interesting depending who's left, but now you're talking about players that are out side the considered "Elite 8".

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#18 Quicksilver ballet
June 05 2011, 10:34AM
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Can't help but feel there's an opportunity here to pull this vehicle out of the ditch and get her shiney side up again.

1) The one deal that solves 2 issues for us is the Panther deal, i'd give Florida most anything they want for that third selection and Gudbranson. Paajarvi,Smid,Brule the 19th. 3 roster players for a similar amount to what it would cost to just sign Gudbranson, heck, i'd even take a contract back from the Panthers if it help sweeten that deal up for them.

2) Hemsky,Plante and the 31st to Columbus for the 8th selection, maybe even take back a salary dump in a Commodore type.

The Oiler roster if these 2 deals could get done would include.....

Taylor Hall,Jordan Eberle,Ryan Nugent-Hopkins,Sean Couturier,Erik Gudbranson and with Columbus' 8th,the Oilers could grab whoevers left from Seimens,Hamilton,MacNeil etc. This group of prospects is as good as any 5-6 yr rebuild plan i could think of. Some will make the lineup this year and some it will be next yr.....we have enoughs guys going into the last yr of their contracts to make it work.

Bring in Ryan Smyth either this summer or next and make efforts to bring in Scottie Upshall,Scott Hartnell or similar type guys who can play on the first or second line if needed. If things go south as expected this season we'll have yet another lottery pick to add to the 6 kids that actually together now resembles a decent core group going forward. The fans paying the freight here in Edmonton atleast deserve an effort be made. A playoff team in 2 yrs and in 3 yrs this group will be guilty of creating considable damage in the playoffs, Taylor Hall is leading a group of kids that should keep Taylor here long after he's eligible for free agency.

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#20 Bar Qu
June 04 2011, 08:50AM
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This year's #1 will have a long road to even measure up to last year's. Large portions of the fan base are guaranteed to be disappointed in the selection.

The other side of there being no consensus top choice. OTOH, the Oil have lots of chance to make hay with 19 and 31, even if they trade them to move up. Should be an interesting day.

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#21 raceguy
June 04 2011, 09:06AM
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LT:

is it just me or does Strome seem to be falling out of favor.

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#24 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
June 04 2011, 09:34AM
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Lowetide wrote:

Good luck. Hope all goes well!

Thanks! I'm really excited for this. I moved here from St Albert in 1997, so my only memories of the Jets were the Oilers stomping them mercilessly at every opportunity.

It's looking pretty grim so far, but I have 4 guys trying for the same set. The pre-sale was made available to the 2000 Moose season-ticketholders, and over the past 3 days that group has scooped up 7100 of the 13000 available, leaving 5900 available for the rest of the province (plus Grand Forks ND and probably Kenora ON).

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#25 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
June 04 2011, 09:42AM
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LT: What are your thoughts on Bob MacKenzie's attitude towards combine results? He was mentioning that some scouts look at underachievers who play well in-game, and try to use those results to extrapolate their in-game play once they have access to an NHL-calibre training staff. Do you buy into that?

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#27 Quicksilver ballet
June 04 2011, 09:56AM
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Note to Wanye....since we'll all agree i'm a lock to win this.

The Oilers are bringing back the white version of the retro jersey for this coming season. Please wait till this jersey becomes available before you make an effort to aquire said item. I'll have the number 93 on the back and the name Hopkins please.

thanks yoop sir!

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#28 spOILer
June 04 2011, 10:04AM
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I have him at 5, but he might end up being the best player in the entire draft.

Very little chance I think. Unless he takes as big a step this year as he did this past season.

LT...

Most of the reports I have read have typified this as a fight between a top 3, and then among the next 5. You have it the other way around... a fight between the top 5 and then the next 3.

I was wondering why.

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#29 Quicksilver ballet
June 04 2011, 10:07AM
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Hopkins is in the bag with the No.1 selection already, just have to wait and see whichever other player we land in that 3,4 or 5 spot when the draft day deal goes down. Anything less than Hopkins AND Couturier/Huberdeau or Ryan Strome is an epic fail for Tambellini in this third annual bummer summer entry draft tournament.

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#31 spOILer
June 04 2011, 10:39AM
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From Luedeke:

Also ran into a few NHL sources who didn't have a great deal of time to chat, but one longtime veteran scout had this to say: "We've figured out a lot of the top players in this draft, but I'm just going to say that after about three, things are going to break wide open and things will get crazy. I think opinions are really divided on where these guys are going to go in terms of order. I would say that a wild ride is in store-it should be fun."

Looks like the top 3 prospects are fairly agreed upon and it becomes a real mishmash thereafter.

Hamilton is another guy I think could go as high as 4th and as low as 8. But I couldn't put him into the top 3. Nor Strome, nor Huberdeau.

But is Couturier the third guy in the top 3, or Landeskog?

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#32 Mrs. Potato Dick
June 04 2011, 10:48AM
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@T.C.

Kudos to you sir

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#33 Quintana
June 04 2011, 11:03AM
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@NateInVegas wrote:

If it's a 4 or 5 man race for 1st overall, shouldn't Tambellini do everything possible to get that additional pick?

The Oilers can't afford to leave the draft without getting a #1 Center. I'd consider moving Paajarvi & #19 for a chance at RNH & Couturier.

Even if it means another season of futility...

What? Dude before you post think first!!!Paajarvi would be a top 3 in this year draft!!

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#34 FastOil
June 04 2011, 11:11AM
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fuzzy muppet wrote:

The price to move into the top 5 is going to be too high. maybe 7-11 is doable. To move in to the top 5, you're talking 19, next years first or MPS/Eberle. No thanks.

Next years draft is MUCH better.

It should be a fun draft. Good thing I've got tickets :)

I've been thinking I would work at being in a position to get lottery picks in better years given this is a weak year - other than tanking, which I am sure will happen again.

Take the #1 this year, strive to make the rookies we have look good and move the guys you don't want when the 2012 bottom feeders emerge.

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#35 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
June 04 2011, 11:19AM
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Rest of the tickets sold out in less than a minute. I was on there right at 12 and didn't get a shot at it.

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#36 raceguy
June 04 2011, 11:20AM
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Lowetide wrote:

Two players: Sean Couturier and now Huberdeau. The top 5 (at a guess) looks like RNH, Huberdeau, Larsson, Couturier and Landeskog. Which means that Strome falls out of my top 5 and joins Hamilton and Murphy.

I think Larsson could go anywhere from 1-5, but that Murphy could go anywhere from 4-8. It's a strange draft.

imo I don't think Larsson gets past Colorado.With the trade they made last year they look to be rebuilding their D.

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#37 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
June 04 2011, 11:24AM
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Sell-out confirmed.

5900 tickets sold in 4 seconds.

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#38 Quicksilver ballet
June 04 2011, 11:32AM
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Lowetide wrote:

Two players: Sean Couturier and now Huberdeau. The top 5 (at a guess) looks like RNH, Huberdeau, Larsson, Couturier and Landeskog. Which means that Strome falls out of my top 5 and joins Hamilton and Murphy.

I think Larsson could go anywhere from 1-5, but that Murphy could go anywhere from 4-8. It's a strange draft.

From this side of the fence this looks like a pretty good top 5 to me, could end up being one of the better drafts in the last 15 yrs. Has to be more question marks than answers in MacGregors mind with this yrs crop.

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#39 madjam
June 04 2011, 11:44AM
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Unless Oilers work on a deal to get another top 5 in this draft , they should draft Larsson first , Couturier second . Couturier gives us physicality and size at center ice where Hopkins does not fit that criteria ! The sooner we get d-men on the burner , the sooner this rebuild starts to take form . If we can pry Gudblanson from Florida then that would also be a bonus as might a few others in this years d-man draft . I stand by my first two and in that order - both great additions to the criteria i believe we need to go forward with .

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#40 Captain Obvious
June 04 2011, 12:00PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

From this side of the fence this looks like a pretty good top 5 to me, could end up being one of the better drafts in the last 15 yrs. Has to be more question marks than answers in MacGregors mind with this yrs crop.

This is the worst draft in a decade.

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#41 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
June 04 2011, 12:19PM
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jake wrote:

Good stuff Winnipeggers/Manitobans, these are multiyear committments....I guess it will work then in Winnipeg.....and Bettman sat there like his dog died at that press conference, saying it won't work if blah blah blah...wonder if he attended that mock funeral service in Atlanta .....ascend this up backside GB.

I learned on Prime Time Sports that teams to get revenue sharing need to sell X tickets (price irrelevant), and some teams buy their own tickets at dirt cheap prices (buck a ticket) to raise the numbers to qualify.

Yep. The most expensive tickets (~$5800/seat) are a 5-year commitment, and the cheapest (~$1700/seat) are a 3-year commitment. From what I've heard, too, there are already over 7000 people on the waiting list.

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#42 Quicksilver ballet
June 04 2011, 12:39PM
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Captain Obvious wrote:

This is the worst draft in a decade.

I don't agree with that. I believe there's 3 elite players in that top 5, we can rehash this in 5 yrs....kay?

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#43 andrewmk20
June 04 2011, 02:09PM
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@@NateInVegas

considering paarjarvi has had just one season under his belt it's way too soon to deal him. He's 6'3 200 and skates like the wind, not exactly something that happens that often. Also there are a lot of defenceman after Larsson. Hamilton, Morrow, Beaulieu, Oleskniak, and Brodin are all projected outside the top 6. The Oilers are deep at forward and a no.1 pick would increase that depth even further. They need to look at defenceman after the 1st pick badly as only Petry and Marincin are touted as higher end defensive prospects and Marincin is still a long way off.

Besides if they are looking to deal Hemsky would be a more logical choice as he's in the last year of his deal and isn't really a veteran player you learn from. Given what history has shown about him he's talented but isn't in the mold of a leader as he's usually the first guy off the ice in practice and is not a leader. The types of guys you place in a room as veteran leaders are players like Weight, Gilmour, Roenick(i'm aware they're all retired just examples). A team like Jersey that has money tied up long term in a team that should be contending now would be worth exploring.

Besides unless Tambellini gets aggressive by picking players off teams that are right against the cap that still need to sign a lot of players(Penguins, Capitals, Flyers, Blackhawks etc.) it's going to be another bad year.

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#44 andrewmk20
June 04 2011, 02:13PM
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@Quicksilver ballet

I agree. The consensus is that the draft isn't deep in elite talent like 03' and doesn't boast the likes of Kane, Stamkos, Hall, or Tavares like in recent years. But this draft is deep in specialized players and role players. Hence why after the top 5 or 6 things are going to get really murky in terms of rankings and where guys are actually picked.

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#45 fuzzy muppet
June 04 2011, 03:40PM
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I'm resigned to the fact that The Oilers are going to take RNH #1. I don't agree with the pick, but it's happening so I better get used to it.

I just don't see how, in a draft with no "generational" talents, favoring need is that bad of an Idea.

What does RNH bring to the table besides play-making and hockey sense(mainly on the PP according to stats)? Is he good on faceoffs? NO. Is he good in the corners? NO. Does he bring size? NO. Kill penalties? NO

Too many NO answers for me. I would prefer a safer pick. Maybe in time he gets big enough and starts to win faceoffs. There's too many smurfs as it is and yet, here we go again bringing in another one.

I wish him the best, because if he's not the next Sakic, we're looking at the rebuild timeline extending to a decade.

Oh well. If he doesn't pan out, MBS's legacy will be tarnished permanently.

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#46 C-Dog
June 04 2011, 04:16PM
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This is ridiculous. Comments like '''does not look like there is a Taylor Hall, Tyler Seguin, Ryan Johansen, or even Cam Fowler in this draft class... Stamkos, Hall, or Tavares...worst draft class in a decade..." are hilarious! Agreed there is no Crosby or Ovechkin, but to call this class weak is beyond lunacy.

Draft year points: Seguin 106 Johansen 69!! (92 his following year) Stamkos 105 Hall 106 Tavares 104

This year's crop: RNH 106 Huberdeau 105 Strome 106 Couturier 96

And this is not even cherrypicking data, it's measuring up this year's "weak" class against the elite of the past 3-4 years!

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#47 EasyOil
June 04 2011, 04:33PM
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@fuzzy muppet

RNH from what i've read isnt bad at faceoffs, not couturier good but not cogliano bad. He also has a high compete level and whilst he mightn't go to the corners often, he does other things well that will help - not everyones a grinder. As for size, he's over 6' and his weight is on the rise, not that weight is everything. Finally, he probably won't be a regular PKer at the nhl level but i've read reports that say he is responsible defensively and doesnt shun his own-zone duties. Its fine if u've got ur favourites, but i think ur being a bit black and white on RNH.

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#48 Top Right
June 04 2011, 04:43PM
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Can Landeskog play centre?

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#49 Adam
June 04 2011, 04:46PM
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Have you ever watched the kid play?

He's good at faceoffs, he's not small, and he plays bigger than he is, and if there's a puck battle RNH wins it 80% of the time - along the boards or in the corner. You don't go #1 if you cant do those things.

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#50 Quicksilver ballet
June 04 2011, 05:19PM
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Trading actually good players for draftpicks is wishcasting freaking dumb.

Finishing 26th,30th and yet another 30th place the last 3 yrs may say otherwise. If you think there are any decent players piloting that ship then have at'er dude. The Oilers may have won the odd battle here and there but we've lost the whole friggen war. Edmonton is Germany at the end of WWII, we're wiped out as far as talent goes. We have Taylor,Jordan and perhaps Paajarvi going forward, liquidate anything else and take our chances on some of these top 5 kids and hope one or two of them turn into impact players like Taylor Hall. This babysteps program the Oilers are on is a suckers game, might as well sign Gagner to a 5 yr extension as our 1st line center.

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