11-12 Questions for 11-12 (Part 3)

Lowetide
July 22 2011 01:44PM

Since April, many of the pressing issues involving the Oilers have been put to bed. Are the answers close to what we expected?

This is the third installment of the 11-12 series; version1.0 is here and theupdate is here. Let's get down to business.

Do the Oilers address defense, center or grit with the top pick?  

  • Answer April 2:  I think they'll take Adam Larsson.
  • Answer April 30: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. Why the change? Nugent-Hopkins was on fire against the Edmonton Oil Kings throughout the week and the fallout has most observers and draft experts feeling the Nuge is the number one prospect.
  • Final answer: Nugent-Hopkins. He's also becoming an odds-on favorite to make the big club out of camp. RNH got some good news with the Cogliano signing and the next step will be a strong showing in training camp and pre-season. One quick note: the evolution of Nugent-Hopkins from top 5 overall prospect to the overwhelming choice as #1 overall pick (from almost every quarter) was fascinating.

Do the Oilers stay with the NK-DD tandem in 11-12 or go shopping? 

  • Answer April 2: Although Khabibulin has two more years on his contract and hiding him in the minors offers no relief, it's likely the Oilers will add some insurance at the position. It may come in the form of another Martin Gerber or the Oilers might end up being (Viktor) Fasth enough to sign a veteran Euro free agent.
  • Answer 30: No change.
  • Final answer: What an absolutely bitter pill. I mean really. The Edmonton Oilers are in a worse position today than they were last fall! Khabibulin is a year older and miles from his last effective season, Gerber is long gone and Yann Danis is the only incoming help. A tremendous amount of pressure is on young Devan Dubnyk, a completely unnecessary risk. Oilers fans know stubborn--remember Ron Low insisting that Miro Satan play on the checking line--but this position (goal) needs to be addressed before fall. As of right now, if an NHL goalie goes down Danis gets recalled and Olivier Roy is the lone goaltender in OKC. Wow.

Will the Oilers make a big move this summer, either in trade or via free agent signing? 

  • Answer April 2: I think the Oilers will make a few major signings this summer, but it won't be "big name" variety additions. They will sign Anton Lander and a few of the CHL kids, and I suspect a young man like Adam Larsson has an outstanding shot at an NHL job if he shows well at this fall's training camp. Viktor Fasth might not look like a huge item the day he's signed, but could go a long way to settling things in the cage. Should the Oilers begin next season with Dubnyk and Fasth as a tandem and Khabibublin deep in the heart of Oklahoma that should be considered a major move.
  • Answer April 30: Steve Tambellini has since told the media that the club would like to improve at center and defense, but  "one thing I want to be clear about is this organization is not ready to be looking for the free agent that is a US$10-million player. We're going to stick with the plan of developing from within, drafting, making people better who are here with the organization. Will we be looking for people to complement through free agency or player movement, such as a trade? Yes. Would we like to increase our ability to win a faceoff? Yes. Do we need some help on defence, do we need some help in some of our forward positions? Yes, we do." The issue of goaltending has not been addressed, which qualifies it as the elephant in the room (summer 2011 edition).
  • Final answer: Wow. Steve Tambellini improved the roster in a big way at center (adding actual NHL player Eric Belanger), improved the 4th line by adding Ben Eager and subtracting JF Jacques, Zack Stortini and others. He also added a risky top 4D option in Cam Barker and enforcers in Andy Sutton and Darcy Hordichuk. But wait there's more! Ryan Smyth, heart and soul copper and blue, returns to the Oilers to serve as useful player and mentor to the future. Steve Tambellini's finest move, adding 94.

Are the Oilers putting themselves in danger re:50 man list will all of these college signings?

  • Answer April 2: Edmonton has been active this spring, signing Tanner House, Taylor Fedun, Hunter Tremblay, Olivier Roy and Mark Arcobello. However, they have plenty of room for the Lander's and Hamiltons, as Capgeek tells us there are 27 (actually 29 with Tremblay and Arceobello added) along with 12 restricted free agents. Even if the Oilers sign all 12 rfa's--and they won't--that would leave 9 spots open on the 50 mission cap.
  • Answer April 30: Oilers have gone ahead and signed Hamilton, Lander, Pitlick, Marincin. They have pretty much covered the draft eligible signings, but will need to add several free agents (specifically goaltenders) throughout the summer. The Oilers have 34 players under contract for 11-12, along with 12 RFA's and 13 UFA's. We know many of the UFA's won't be returning, but it is also possible the club could walk away from some rfa's (they did a year ago with Pouliot and Potulny among others). I don't see the 50 man list as being in dangerous territory.
  • Final Answer: They are at 49 currently, with a couple of kids yet to sign (Martindale, Davidson). They could send down someone like Marincin and RNH to junior, so it is a moving target. Also, they do have the option of cutting loose Johan Motin or Phil Cornet, who are in the bubble spots from what I can tell. The issue of 50 contracts seems to have been navigated successfully this summer. Need a goalie, though.

What are they going to do about the powder blue-line?

  • Answer April 2: The Oilers have Tom Gilbert, Ryan Whitney, Jeff Petry and Kurtis Foster under NHL contracts for next season. RFA's include Ladislav Smid, Theo Peckham and Taylor Chorney. Minor leaguers in the mix include Alex Plante, Colten Teubert, Taylor Fedun and Johan Motin. I think the Oilers will look at bringing Jim Vandermeer back for another year and assume Foster will be much better next season. A top 4 of Whitney-Petry, Smid-Gilbert seems likely from here, with Foster, Peckham and Vandermeer rounding out the NHL roster. This leaves Taylor Chorney in something of a no-man's land and I believe he may be dealt over the summer.
  • Answer April 30: Nothing has changed. The Marincin signing may not impact the AHL roster, as there's a real chance he's back in the WHL next fall.
  • Final Answer: GM Tambellini ended up adding a couple of NHL parts, Cam Barker and Andy Sutton. The club also sent away Kurtis Foster and did not bring back Jim Vandermeer. The top 6D is probably Whitney-Barker, Smid-Gilbert, Peckham-Sutton and Chorney at this time. I would bet huge money that Jeff Petry not only crushes Chorney in camp but that he supplants Barker as a top 4D during the season. It isn't right--Petry should be brought along slowly--but there is no real evidence I can see that Barker is a top 4D option at even strength. No NHL team he's played for felt that way, suspect coach Renney will reach that conclusion during 11-12.

What do the top 2 lines look like in the fall? 

  • Answer April 2: I believe the Oilers will operate (as they have in the recent past) as if they can ice "three scoring lines" and the 9 names in play will be Horcoff, Gagner and Cogliano at center; Hall, MPS and Jones on LW and Hemsky, Eberle and Omark on RW. The wild card is that kid Hartikainen, who could be an ideal item in the ongoing effort to marry size, grit and brains to a skill line. His emergence late may impact the Ryan Jones contract.
  • Answer April 30: A slight update in that Ryan Jones remains unsigned. The club could have made a deal and are waiting until the end of the playoffs to announce it, but the crickets could also be the sound of the Oilers organization standing firm. Part of that backbone might be the Finn.
  • Final answer: I think the top 9 point made April 2 still applies. The top 3C's out of camp should be Gagner, RNH and Horcoff and the top 6 wingers will be Hall-Eberle, Smyth-Hemsky and Paajarvi-Omark. The other fully qualified option is Eric Belanger, with Ben Eager a possible plug and play in the top 9 on nghts when the coach wants to infuse some physicality. Teemu Hartikainen remains a player of interest.

Will they spend a roster spot on Steve MacIntyre again this fall? 

  • Answer April 2: Yes. The Oilers have invested money and minutes in developing a nuclear deterrent. Why stop now? He'll play 40 games a year under Renney.
  • Answer April 30: No change.
  • Final answer: Found a better mousetrap in Darcy Hordichuk. I like that signing a lot. Not as much a deterrent as MacIntyre, but a better actual player.

Which of the kids outside the pro portion of the organization has the best chance of making the big team in 11-12? 

  • Answer April 2: Anton Lander. The Oilers have Horcoff, Gagner, Cogliano and Colin Fraser as NHL contracts and minor leaguers Ryan O'Marra and Chris Vande Velde at the top of the depth chart. Lander's SEL experience should put him in the mix for that 4th spot, forcing Fraser to 13F (ahead of MacIntyre) or to OKC with Khabibulin.
  • Answer April 30: I think Lander is an even stronger option for the Oilers now that he's signed. Plenty of time to get ready for training camp and perhaps the organization's moves this summer will be impacted from knowing he's in the group. Entirely good news, this Lander signing.
  • Final answer: RNH. I don't think there's a chance in hell they send him out if he has a solid pre-season.

How will the Oilers handle round one of this year's draft? 

  • Answer April 2: They'll pluck Larsson number one overall and make a trade up to around 15 in order to acquire C Mark McNeill from the PA Raiders.
  • Answer April 30: I believe RNH will go number one, and with that would suggest a defenseman is likely the target with the LAK pick.
  • Final answer: Went as we expected at the end of April, RNH followed by the game breaker Klefbom. I think it's important for us to remember that the first pick on day 2 was David Musil, who was a first round pick on many lists. Strong top of the draft again for MBS.

Will they sign any free agents? 

  • Answer April 2: I think they'll make a push for guys like Viktor Fasth in Europe and Boyd Gordon (57.9 faceoff %) this summer, but heaven knows if they'll be able to sign any NHL free agents. A year ago they signed Kurtis Foster and Gordon would fit into the "day 3" group of free agents so there's always a chance.
  • Answer April 30: Same. The actual names could be different--Scott Cullen has some interesting names in this article--but the general idea is the same. 
  • Final answer: Tambellini did very well. A better "Gordon" in Eric Belanger, plus he plucked upgrades in Ben Eager (Jacques role) and Darcy Hordichuk (MacIntyre) role for two 4line slots the coach valued. Cam Barker is a signing with some risk, but there's obvious potential for success in the addition.

Which NHL Oilers will be dealt this summer? 

  • Answer April 2: There' s a difference between the men who are available and those who will be dealt. Sam Gagner and Ales Hemsky might have been in play, but injuries might hold up deals in this regard. NOTE: I'm not suggesting the Oilers should trade either player, but in Hemsky's case he's outside the heart of the cluster age-wise and Gagner's being sent away might be possible should they choose RNH. Men like Kurtis Foster, Gilbert Brule and Taylor Chorney could be in play.
  • Answer April 30: No change.
  • Final answer: Oilers tried to trade Brule but it didn't take. They were successful in dealing Kurtis Foster and Andrew Cogliano in deals designed to improve up the middle.

 

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#1 vin
July 22 2011, 01:49PM
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any updates on the kings-oilers saga?

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#2 mayorpoop
July 22 2011, 01:55PM
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if i get fired because you write in depth posts i hope the nation is hiring aspiring flunkies!

good post and interesting to read previous predictions.

i am not convinced mr dithers is done dithering (at a greater speed granted).

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#4 mayorpoop
July 22 2011, 02:06PM
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if you get paid per comment just do more posts on why the should/shouldn't trade gagner (substitute any roster player here and same reaction).

lt, there has been lots of talk on radio lately about khabby going and other goalie talk....what do you make of this and who is a viable target for trade (if there even is one)?

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#5 michael
July 22 2011, 02:13PM
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Overall a good summer for ST. Any ideal if Jason Strudwick is going to find employment within the Oilers organization. Not as player so much as a developmental coach for the Dmen. Huddy would have been my first choice but I see Strudwick as an organizational guy who could lend his experience to some of the up and coming Dmen like Klefbom or Tuebert. We have forward and goalie development coachs. I think it would behoove ST not to add a D coach into that group also.Strudwick is a good player, a good citizen of this community, and has done everything this organization has asked of him. Reward for loyalty is not something to be undervalued.

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#7 justDOit
July 22 2011, 02:22PM
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I don't think that Mr. Tambellini is done tweaking the roster, but I believe that there will be a bit of a lull in activity until the arbitration hearings are all completed.

Many teams are waiting to see where some salary lines will be drawn, and after that players will either be signed and traded, or walked away from to become UFAs

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#8 Dan the Man
July 22 2011, 02:25PM
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My guess is that the Oilers give Khabibulin a chance to rebound throughout preseason and early in the regular season.

If he appears to be headed for a season like the last one then they will address it 20-25 games in to the season.

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#9 misfit
July 22 2011, 02:47PM
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I agree that they shouldn't rush Petry into anything he's not ready for, but I also believe he should be in the NHL this year.

I see him either playing on the 3rd pair with a guy like Sutton, or on the 2nd pairing with Whitney. Both are situations that I feel are good for his development, but I also seem to have a lot more confidence in Petry than a lot of Oiler fans and pundits.

The goaltending issue is a bit of a problem, but I wasn't expecting them to do anything about the NHL level depth either. I think they're happy with Khabibulin as the backup if he can't take the starting role from Dubnyk, and Dubnyk should be about ready to take on a bigger role in net if he's ever going to be a full-time starter for this team. It's what they've been grooming him for, and this seems like a pretty good time for him to take the next step. Danis is a solid AHL starter/NHL backup, and I've got no problem with him in that role.

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#10 Mason Storm
July 22 2011, 02:48PM
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The answer to goaltending is simple. Trade Khabby for Rask and Lucic. Maybe even try to squeeze a couple of first round picks out of the Bruins.

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#11 TLHansum
July 22 2011, 02:50PM
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Mr. Editor!

One quick note: the evolution of Nugent-Hopkins from top 5 overall prospect to the overwhelming choise as #1 overall pick (from almost every quarter) was fascinating. --choiCe--

Tambellini did very well. A better "Gordon" in Eric Belanger, plus he pucked upgrades in Ben Eager --pLucked--

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#12 Hugh
July 22 2011, 03:00PM
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Don't forgot they got rid of Fraser.

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#13 OvenChicken8 - Team JSBM
July 22 2011, 03:04PM
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Awesome post LT! Even in the dog days of summer you have entertained me.

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#14 risto
July 22 2011, 03:13PM
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CON: Without better goaltending, this team won't improve in the standings much.

PRO: the free agent signings will really help us in the divisional games.

I like the culture they are trying to rebuild in the team.

Leadership takes time, but Gagner and Smyth have to step it up in that department.

Also, it would take pressure off of Hall to be the PR face of the team.

Horcoff has been a slight disappointment as captain. I give him the benefit of doubt as it was a sinking ship last year, but MANY players are ready to fill his shoes in the lineup.

I really like the free agent signings. Eager and Hordichuk make us tougher to play against, and Sutton is a true blue-Tower.

Well done, Tambo.

Also, well done Lowetide - you are awesome, and your faith in MBS is well-placed. I admire his work also, and can't wait until my kids tell their kids about watching the Klefbom win Norrises and Smnythes.

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#15 justDOit
July 22 2011, 03:20PM
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Mason Storm wrote:

The answer to goaltending is simple. Trade Khabby for Rask and Lucic. Maybe even try to squeeze a couple of first round picks out of the Bruins.

Sometimes the simplest answers are staring us right in the face!

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#16 Helmethead
July 22 2011, 03:25PM
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Lowetide your breakdown of the goaltending situation is bang on.

The goaltending situation is a nightmare. They should have been actively seeking out expereince for the farm and emergency call up goaltenders. With Gerber signing overseas, there's an obvious depth issue in the nets at this point. Unless Tambo has irons in the fire, The Oil may have an issue if either Dubynk or Khabibulin goes down to injury.

Stauffer wrote a blog on the Oilers website addressing the very same issues, arguing Khabby is should have a bounce back year after posting similarily brutal numbers in the previous seasons with The Hawks.

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=569879&navid=DL|EDM|home

I'm of the opinion that even if Khabby does play better over the first 25 games, The Oilers should actively seek a trading partner because at a 3.75mil cap hit, it's an expensive gamble should he get injured.

I say sign Pascal LeClair. He can be signed for $2 mil/season and will give The Oilers the depth of experience they seem to be lacking in goal right now.

Potential trading partners are: Winnipeg, Detroit, Columbus, N.Y.I, and St. Louis. All have cap space to take on the contract and don't have playing depth Trade with

Thoughts...?

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#17 justDOit
July 22 2011, 03:49PM
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@Helmethead

I'm of the opinion that Khabby will have a rebound year.

"Rebound! Goal!" "Rebound - goal!" "Rebound... goal..." "rebound..."

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#18 Mantastic
July 22 2011, 04:04PM
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@Helmethead

you want to sign the biggest goalie bandaid ever in pascal leclair?!?! and for 2 mill, i really doubt he would get that much.

i can see phx more likely getting khabby basically because all they have right now are 3 back-up goalies.

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#19 Oilcruzer
July 22 2011, 04:12PM
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*brain overloading*

Wow, this coulda taken up three no wait ELEVEN different blog posts.

The answer...

...is....

...."Yes?"

(do I win?)

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#20 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
July 22 2011, 04:16PM
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With 2 rebuilding summers under his belt i'd have to give Tambellini a D so far. Every opportunity should've been made to aggressively add to what was already due to the Oilers.

They did add the surprisingly available Ryan Smyth to the top 6 but the jury is out on whether Sutton,Eager,Hordichuk,Belanger and Barker will be much help to the club. If Hopkins is returned to Red Deer and the remaining new faces take bad penalty after bad penalty this could quickly turn into another lottery pick season.

Steve is 0'fer putting his fingerprints on this club. Sitting in the corner willing to make a living off the scraps that are due to the Oilers will only insure an infinity rebuild.

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#21 Dman09
July 22 2011, 04:47PM
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Mantastic wrote:

you want to sign the biggest goalie bandaid ever in pascal leclair?!?! and for 2 mill, i really doubt he would get that much.

i can see phx more likely getting khabby basically because all they have right now are 3 back-up goalies.

Problem is thats all Bulin is being viewed as right now as well. Backup.

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#22 Dman09
July 22 2011, 04:51PM
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I don't care who is willing to take him just somebody please take him. It would also be nice if they would be willing to take an extra body back with him to free up another spot. Then the Oil would be able to sign a couple more tenders. Viktor being the guy you want period I think but he won't come over and play unless he is guarenteed to get NHL time for the season. mmmmm.....

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#23 horndog77
July 22 2011, 04:52PM
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Does Philly want to trade Bobro! Because if that's true Edmonton should jump all over that. Bury Bulin in the minors and have a 50/50 of Dubi/Bobro. Not really sure of what it would take but a newly acquired second rounder and a prospect should do the trick.

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#24 horndog77
July 22 2011, 05:00PM
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Didn't Leclaire get his jaw broken sitting on the bench with the Senators? Unlucky goofy looking basterd.

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#25 Sox and Oil
July 22 2011, 05:00PM
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horndog77 wrote:

Does Philly want to trade Bobro! Because if that's true Edmonton should jump all over that. Bury Bulin in the minors and have a 50/50 of Dubi/Bobro. Not really sure of what it would take but a newly acquired second rounder and a prospect should do the trick.

I agree. Martindale and ANA 2013 2nd?

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#26 justDOit
July 22 2011, 05:02PM
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@horndog77

The only problem burying Khabby in the minors, is that his contract still counts against this silly 50 contract limit.

We're pretty tight against that limit, no?

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#27 horndog77
July 22 2011, 05:07PM
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justDOit wrote:

The only problem burying Khabby in the minors, is that his contract still counts against this silly 50 contract limit.

We're pretty tight against that limit, no?

I think they are at the 50 man limit already, but maybe they could drop some or make 2 for 1 trades. Hell maybe 3 for 1 if it's a good defencemen.

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#28 Hemmertime
July 22 2011, 05:26PM
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I hope we utilize waivers again this year. We get first pick of all the players that get sent down after training camp.

I'm of the mind other teams 8th Dman has a strong chance to crack our top 6.

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#30 Lofty
July 22 2011, 05:46PM
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I don't see anything wrong with the Barker signing. It's a one year deal, and $2.25 million is worth the gamble. I could see him being played as the 6th D, and power play specialist playing 15-18 minutes a night. The shiftiness of the forwards is going to draw a lot of power plays and he could easily pot 30 points.

Sutton's gonna play as much as Strudwick did and should do it better. He's presence and impact is an upgrade as long as he doesn’t take too many penalties. When he played for Ottawa he made a lot of good clean hits that got called for a penalties. I bet he get's suspended at some point in the season, any takers?

I would start with the following at even strength: Whitney-Gilbert Smid-Petry Barker-Peckham-Sutton sharing time... all of which bring a "don’t play well with others" attitude. Barker may not touch the ice in the 3rd period if the oil have the lead.

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#32 Lofty
July 22 2011, 07:49PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Nothing wrong with the Barker signing except that it's a risk in an area where the team needs actual NHL players. If it works, man that's going to be a nice acquisition.

If it doesn't, not a long term deal so who cares?

I just wish they had a little strong top 4 and I don't think Barker is going to solve that problem.

I like the way the D is coming together with Teubert, Musil and Klefbom. I also think a teams toughness should come from it's D. I think Sutton is a great signing. Not the most pressing need Filled but definitely positive. Injuries are going to happen and someone in the A is going to come up and take a top 4 spot. The footspeed of the bottom 3 Dmen will make them easy to bypass.

Is it ever a bad idea to give a shot to someone taken in the top 3 of a draft within the pat 4 or 5 years?

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#33 Walter Sobchak
July 22 2011, 08:22PM
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Like a lot of the post's so far, I'm of the opinion that the Oilers should have added another quality top 4 defense men.

The ability to not recognize the depth at goalie is disconcerting as well, I cant understand how we never got a goalie like Harding at the beginning of free agency?

Also the Hemsky issue is unsettling as well, I'd feel a whole lot better if the Oilers sign him prior to training camp, or before he inevitably gets injured.

I still think Tambo's plan is to bring this build along slowly, and get another top 10 pick.

Khabby is a dead issue to me, he's not getting any better he wont rebound and was/still is a terrible signing. pisses me off.

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#34 horndog77
July 22 2011, 09:12PM
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Bring in Bobro and Hannan and I think the Oilers have a shot at making the playoffs. I think we all can agree that Edmonton needs to address their goaltending and defense and it wouldn't hurt to have some more size on the right side, still too many small players.

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#35 russ99
July 22 2011, 09:15PM
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The reason that there hasn't been a NHL-level addition is that this season Dubnyk is getting the lion's share of the goaltending duties to see if he can develop into a true #1 guy.

Khabi is just a very expensive, experienced backup/insurance goalie.

I'd love to see the Oilers add a goalie, but it's a hard sell for a NHL experienced guy to sign to either play in OKC due to Khabibulin or be stuck in a backup role to Dubnyk.

I think that the Oilers much prefer giving Dubnyk that chance instead of burying him on the depth chart under a Emery or Bobrovsky and stifling his development for a slightly better chance at the playoffs.

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#36 Crash
July 22 2011, 09:17PM
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Not sure how much slower you'd want to bring Petry along...he better not be taking too much longer, he'll be 24 yrs old this year when most players are starting their prime.

I think it's time for him to show what he has at the NHL level...

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#37 speeds
July 22 2011, 10:15PM
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LT, what do you think the Oilers are truly thinking, internall, with their goaltending?

Are they are running with Khabibulin and Dubnyk because they legitimately think they are a good goaltending combination?

Do they think Khabi is done, but want to see if he can't get off to a great start for his first 15 games, maybe someone gets an injury and we can lose him on re-entry waivers or trade him for an overpriced D, or something?

Do they not expect to make the playoffs no matter what they do in goal, so just wait and see what happens? Probably play Dubnyk 55 games and if Khabi isn't great as a back-up, well, they can live with that this year?

Are they thinking that, because they don't think they'd make the playoffs even with good goaltending, it's worth taking a chance that Khabibulin turns it around so they can move him next summer? And if he's subpar again, well, one more top 3-5 pick isn't the end of the world if the rest of the roster is making progress? Just throw the kitchen sink at Rinne and Weber next summer, grab Yakupov/Ebert/Murray/Grigorenko/whoever, and aim for a monster jump up the standings in 2012/13?

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#38 Gret99zky
July 22 2011, 10:53PM
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If I'm Katz the orders to Mr. Dithers is keep dithering until the arena gets built.

No rush here.

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#39 ed in mada
July 23 2011, 07:27AM
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speeds wrote:

LT, what do you think the Oilers are truly thinking, internall, with their goaltending?

Are they are running with Khabibulin and Dubnyk because they legitimately think they are a good goaltending combination?

Do they think Khabi is done, but want to see if he can't get off to a great start for his first 15 games, maybe someone gets an injury and we can lose him on re-entry waivers or trade him for an overpriced D, or something?

Do they not expect to make the playoffs no matter what they do in goal, so just wait and see what happens? Probably play Dubnyk 55 games and if Khabi isn't great as a back-up, well, they can live with that this year?

Are they thinking that, because they don't think they'd make the playoffs even with good goaltending, it's worth taking a chance that Khabibulin turns it around so they can move him next summer? And if he's subpar again, well, one more top 3-5 pick isn't the end of the world if the rest of the roster is making progress? Just throw the kitchen sink at Rinne and Weber next summer, grab Yakupov/Ebert/Murray/Grigorenko/whoever, and aim for a monster jump up the standings in 2012/13?

You pretty much nailed it

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#41 Ed in Mada
July 23 2011, 09:08AM
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Lowetide wrote:

I think the major factor is that they buried millions in the minors last year (Souray) and the owner probably doesn't take too kindly to another big salary going to the AHL.

The thing I don't understand is that the odds of NK being healthy all season long (even in a backup role) are not 100%.

So with that in mind, you can expect Danis to get called up at some point. That leaves Roy--a new pro--and some guy they might pick out of the stands.

Does that seem like a plan?

I agree that they need some minor league depth in goal. When did they sign Gerber last year?? Can't recall, was is it in August.

They don't need a Gerber, they need a Mike Morrison, career ECHL guy who could give some suport to Roy if needed.

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#42 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
July 23 2011, 10:32AM
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Ed in Mada wrote:

I agree that they need some minor league depth in goal. When did they sign Gerber last year?? Can't recall, was is it in August.

They don't need a Gerber, they need a Mike Morrison, career ECHL guy who could give some suport to Roy if needed.

That's like bringing a knife to a gun fight Ed.

What is a career East Coast Hockey League goaltender going to teach Roy about playing goal in the NHL. If the goal is to prep him for a career in that ECHL then he's your guy.

Minor disagreement on this issue.

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#43 steadypace
July 23 2011, 01:42PM
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Where done Tyler Bunz fit in the goaltending mix?

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#44 bigrroberto
July 23 2011, 03:55PM
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Would people still be whining if Habby was only making 1.5?

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#45 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
July 23 2011, 04:32PM
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bigrroberto wrote:

Would people still be whining if Habby was only making 1.5?

Nothing to do with his pay check for me.

Everything to do with his sub back up SV%.

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#46 speeds
July 23 2011, 05:04PM
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bigrroberto wrote:

Would people still be whining if Habby was only making 1.5?

Hmmm. That's a pretty interesting question. I think it would be reasonable to guess the "whining" would be less loud.

That said, and this is just IMO, if the Oilers had only Dubnyk under contract right now (or back on July 1st), and gave the hypothetical UFA Khabibulin a 1 year deal at 1.5 mil, I would still kind of wonder why they went with him instead of Emery, as an example.

But, for sure, the money is significant, it is for any player. Ales Hemsky at 10 mil? Not so good. At 4.1? Pretty decent. At 2 mil? Great.

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#47 Ed in Mada
July 24 2011, 07:08AM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

That's like bringing a knife to a gun fight Ed.

What is a career East Coast Hockey League goaltender going to teach Roy about playing goal in the NHL. If the goal is to prep him for a career in that ECHL then he's your guy.

Minor disagreement on this issue.

I mean they need a veteran pro who can help a rookie. With DD, Kahbi, Danis and Roy now filling up the spots in the NHL and AHL all that is left is a spot for a veteran ECHL type who could fill in at the AHL if needed.

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#48 Will
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Im a big Oilers fan. If i was in Tambos position Id sign Viktor Fasth (give him what he wants for a 1 year deal), have him alternating with Dubnyk to start the year and see if a number one emerges. By the look of his numbers in the SEL and at the Worlds he looks like the real deal. I think he would fit in well with all the young swedes EDM have up and coming. Send Re-Habby to the minors, hes no role model for the youngsters.

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