Big Yann or Big Yawn?

Lowetide
July 07 2011 06:41AM

Over the years I've learned that when it comes to signing free agents the Edmonton Oilers can fool you. Sometimes the big money guys are here for a good time (not a long time) and the secondary moderns are the ones follow. 

Speaking about goaltenders with any kind of authority is folly. Even goalie coaches use vague phrases about mechanics and positioning. I believe the language of goalies exists so that these poor souls don't hear "why the hell didn't you stop the damn puck?" every 5 minutes. It sometimes seems as though G's are to hockey as pitchers are to baseball: even the best of them might get released, face several career crossroads and suffer massive amounts of booing at home and on the road. 

Inside the pitcher/goalie realm live the knuckleballers who are represented in hockey by the Tim Thomas group (waiting until 30+ before putting it all together). That group enjoyed a giant FU moment this spring, when "elite goalie all his life" Roberto Luongo questioned Thomas' mechanics in game 2 only to let in an equally devastating goal in game 7 under similar on-ice circumstances (the Marchand wraparound, goal #2 in G7).

Making any kind of claim in regard to Yann Danis being from the Tim Thomas family of "elite goalies after 30" is ridiculous. That kind of good fortune combines talent, confidence, luck, karma and the Hockey Gods in equal measure. Still, the resume for Yann Danis suggests that he deserved the look he's getting from the Oil Drop. 

Danis isn't an obvious choice for a free agent steal, but there are some things on his resume worth noting:

  • Won the Ken Dryden award for NCAA's top goalie, 2004. 
  • ECAC player of the year, 2004. 
  • Enjoyed some solid AHL seasons on the deep Hamilton (Montreal) Bulldogs team, mid 2000's. 
  • Rookie NHL season (08-09) included a .910SP for the lowly NY Islanders. 
  • Backup in NJD the following season, posted a .923 SP for the Devils. 
  • Played well in the KHL last season.

Danis is considered a solid bet by a few good hockey minds. Robert Vollman wrote about him in Hockey Prospectus earlier this summer:

  • Some teams don't look past Evgeni Nabokov when searching the KHL for options, causing them overlook Khabarovsk's Danis. Initially a promising goalie prospect, Danis got stuck behind Halak and Carey Price in Montreal's system. He eventually found his way to the NHL, playing 43 games for the Islanders and Devils from 2008 to 2010, earning an impressive even-strength save percentage of .926 and quality start percentage over 60. This success could be due to the small sample size, but Danis certainly deserves the opportunity to prove it.

There are a few things going Danis' way at this time: he's young enough to have several seasons of effectiveness moving forward; even if he starts the season in OKC the Oilers situation is fluid; Khabibulin's downward trend may end up forcing the issue as soon as this fall; the Oilers have waited too long in free agency to add another goalie to the mix, meaning either they improve via trade or Danis is the de facto first option when the money runs out and the engine blows for the NHL tandem.

At this point the Edmonton Oilers have the look of a team that is about to rely heavily on a young goaltender. Devan Dubnyk is a solid player and may build on last year's foundation to solidify himself as an NHL starter. Yann Danis is certainly behind backup Nikolai Khabibulin at this point (who may well be considered the starter by Oilers management) but the recipe exists for Yann Danis to get a huge NHL opportunity this season.

Hockey's Tim Wakefield? I believe we're about to find out.

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#101 McCash
July 07 2011, 03:15PM
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Maple Leafer wrote:

All I got from that is...blah blah blah. I was three at the time so... whatever. I'm sure you even remeber what you were wearing that fateful day, cuz ur probably still wearing it...

Take a look at all the UFA's/Trades we "almost" made over the last 5 years. I think I speak for the whole nation when I say we're damn happy none of them went through. Would we want Heatley now? Hell no. Thomas Vanek at 8 mill/year? No way. We even ditched our beer-fat winger Dustin Penner to the kings for a couple good picks and a prospect. Tim Connolly for Prez.

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#102 Dman09
July 07 2011, 03:43PM
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D-Man wrote:

So what you're saying is we need someone to bash Khabby in the knee repeatedly before training camp??

Or hit him with a speeding Ferrari. Either way works. The car would be better.

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#103 Puritania
July 07 2011, 03:55PM
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Maple Leafer wrote:

Is the pot calling the kettle black? Anyways I had fun on your page. Come visit me on my page, but bring your A game cause all I saw here were a bunch of C's and D's.

LOL dear god.

Someone just discovered they can fight with people on the internet. Don't feed the sad ass troll people.

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#104 leafs in 2012
July 07 2011, 03:55PM
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we signed connolay. he is awsome! they will be a conntender this year. now with connolay their to feed passes to kesel, and optimus riemer in net, we will b ein playoofs. leafs rule. oilers are loosers

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#105 Dman09
July 07 2011, 04:04PM
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Maple Leafer wrote:

Shallow end of the gene pool? This is coming from an Edmontonian? LOL say hi to your sister/wife for me and don't forget to feed your 3 legged dog!

Think you should look at your other pro sports teams. Blue Jays have a players that is at the top for homeruns every year it seems and yet they still don't make the playoffs. And as for the Oil change aren't the argo's doing the same thing as we speak. Its amazing with all the population you have over there you still only have one NHL team. Wait isn't alberta the only province that has two NHL teams. And haven't both of them been to the cup finals in the last decade. Interesting........

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#106 John Chambers
July 07 2011, 04:05PM
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leafs in 2012 wrote:

we signed connolay. he is awsome! they will be a conntender this year. now with connolay their to feed passes to kesel, and optimus riemer in net, we will b ein playoofs. leafs rule. oilers are loosers

Let that be a lesson to all you kids out there in Oilersnation:

DON'T SMOKE CRACK!

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#107 Dman09
July 07 2011, 04:07PM
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@John Chambers

oh ya.

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#108 Leafs Nation
July 07 2011, 04:11PM
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John Chambers wrote:

Let that be a lesson to all you kids out there in Oilersnation:

DON'T SMOKE CRACK!

Ya stick to the moonshine you bums are used too.

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#109 leafs in 2012
July 07 2011, 04:11PM
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John Chambers wrote:

Let that be a lesson to all you kids out there in Oilersnation:

DON'T SMOKE CRACK!

I dont smoke crack! leafs will be really good with phanuf and kesel and watch how good lupul is. he is goinng to score lots. and kadri is so awsome. watch when there scoring so much now and we have a #1 centre again.

kesel is the best. and riemer is going to be so good to

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#110 leafs in 2012
July 07 2011, 04:15PM
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Leafs Nation wrote:

Ya stick to the moonshine you bums are used too.

ya cuz if u think the oilers wont be loosers this year you guys are all loosers. toronto is the best team in the leegeu this year. how much did mcarther score last year? he was on fire. and this year lupul will b egood and we have a really good centre with connolay. im goin to laff when leafs are in playoffs and their playing for the cup and oilers are not

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#111 Dman09
July 07 2011, 04:17PM
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leafs in 2012 wrote:

I dont smoke crack! leafs will be really good with phanuf and kesel and watch how good lupul is. he is goinng to score lots. and kadri is so awsome. watch when there scoring so much now and we have a #1 centre again.

kesel is the best. and riemer is going to be so good to

You do realize that Lupul is from the Edmonton area right? You should ask him about his three legged dog and his sister/mom/wife and see what kind of an answer you get. :)

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#112 headmetal
July 07 2011, 04:19PM
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@leafs in 2012

I think to give yourself some cred talking about the Leafs you should spell the names of your players correctly:

kesel = Kessel,

phanuf = Phaneuf,

riemer = Reimer,

connolay = Connolly,

mcarther = MacArthur

I know it is a bit more work, but really does help get your point across better.

**UPDATE** don't feed the Trolls

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#113 leaf in 2012
July 07 2011, 04:22PM
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Dman09 wrote:

You do realize that Lupul is from the Edmonton area right? You should ask him about his three legged dog and his sister/mom/wife and see what kind of an answer you get. :)

no hes from saskachewen. from fort saskachewwen. look at hockeydb. so hes not an edmonton looser. hes better then that.

hes better then any oiler player. there all bad players in edmonton. hahaaa ..who do they have?

kadri is better then any young player on edmonontom

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#114 Dman09
July 07 2011, 04:25PM
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leaf in 2012 wrote:

no hes from saskachewen. from fort saskachewwen. look at hockeydb. so hes not an edmonton looser. hes better then that.

hes better then any oiler player. there all bad players in edmonton. hahaaa ..who do they have?

kadri is better then any young player on edmonontom

Man you need to look at a map, Ft. Sask is in Alberta and is less that a half hour from the City.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Fort%20Sask%20AB&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&channel=np&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl

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#115 leafs in 2012
July 07 2011, 04:26PM
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headmetal wrote:

@leafs in 2012

I think to give yourself some cred talking about the Leafs you should spell the names of your players correctly:

kesel = Kessel,

phanuf = Phaneuf,

riemer = Reimer,

connolay = Connolly,

mcarther = MacArthur

I know it is a bit more work, but really does help get your point across better.

**UPDATE** don't feed the Trolls

we dont need to spell good in toronto cuz toronto is awsome. toronto public school distrect teaches us good. thats why we think leafs are the best. suz tehy are.

loosers

there better then edmonton

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#116 Ales Hallsky's Junk
July 07 2011, 04:29PM
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Stop feeding the trolls please.

p.s. Someone is having a blast impersonating a leafs fan.

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#117 Dman09
July 07 2011, 04:31PM
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Ales Hallsky's Junk wrote:

Stop feeding the trolls please.

p.s. Someone is having a blast impersonating a leafs fan.

Of course they are but I've got nothing better to do for the next half hour until finised work.

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#118 leafs in 2012
July 07 2011, 04:36PM
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Sorry guys, I was just getting frustrated with that other leafs fan spouting off so i started to troll. Plus I have nothing better to do at work today either.

When it's slow, it is really slow.

Go Oilers. Can't wait for the season to start.

Leafs have another tough year ahead of them, lol.

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#119 Truth
July 07 2011, 04:39PM
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I don't know which one of these apparent leafs fans is for real.

I know how the test:

Which one of you will take my show pony for two high pedigree thorobread colts.

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#120 leafs in 2012
July 07 2011, 04:41PM
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Truth wrote:

I don't know which one of these apparent leafs fans is for real.

I know how the test:

Which one of you will take my show pony for two high pedigree thorobread colts.

Oooooo! Show Pony? Sounds shiny.

I will take your pony!*

Here are my Thoroughbreds.

*that's what she said

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#121 Dman09
July 07 2011, 04:42PM
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leafs in 2012 wrote:

Sorry guys, I was just getting frustrated with that other leafs fan spouting off so i started to troll. Plus I have nothing better to do at work today either.

When it's slow, it is really slow.

Go Oilers. Can't wait for the season to start.

Leafs have another tough year ahead of them, lol.

I hear ya. My job is always an extreme. Either there is tons of stuff to do or there is nothing to do. Even goes weeks at a time. I think the only Canadian teams that are going to have a good year is Van and MTL unfortunately. But on the bright side a few years from now we could see 7 of the 8 teams fighting in the playoffs. Now I think that would make Betman Sh*t his pants.

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#122 Pisani's Irish Cousin
July 07 2011, 04:43PM
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Well these comments have degraded to Leaf's like quality (lol). Check out my Stanley Cup Winning Oilers Team of '14-'15 here: http://puckpassionate.blogspot.com/2011/07/change-of-plan-today-but-keep-course-to.html

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#123 Oilcruzer
July 07 2011, 04:54PM
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CanuckleHead420 wrote:

Mediocre for years to come.

Wrong. I think Vancouver will truly suck in a couple years... don't overplay your team.

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#124 Oilcruzer
July 07 2011, 04:56PM
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Maple Leafer wrote:

OK all you had to do was ask nicley! Later Deadmontonians! Enjoy the 3rd striaght 1st overall pick hahaha

Why is it they have a team called the Ottawa 67's? Shouldn't that be Toronto's team name?

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#125 The Beaker
July 07 2011, 04:59PM
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Oilcruzer wrote:

Why is it they have a team called the Ottawa 67's? Shouldn't that be Toronto's team name?

ROFL

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#126 Dog Train
July 07 2011, 05:08PM
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I like this signing. The Gerber signing was clever last season but Gerber's age made it difficult to have any long-term potential. I think that Danis just got caught in a numbers game in Montreal and can still be an NHL calibre goaltender.

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#127 Quicksilver ballet
July 07 2011, 05:17PM
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I see the schools in Ontario are on their summer break now. Buckle up boys, these kids will be back to baffle us when they finish their KD.

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#128 Dan the Man
July 07 2011, 05:27PM
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My cat's name is Mittens.

Also Yann Danis is a fine signing.

That is all.

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#129 a lg dubl dubl
July 07 2011, 06:01PM
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Toronto is the ONLY place in the world where leafs fall in spring

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#130 crustygrit
July 07 2011, 06:09PM
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Maple Leafer wrote:

Leave it to an Oiler fans to live in the past. I suggest you take your Gretzky jerseys off cuz you fools have been wearing it since 1990, and you're in dire need of a shower. Leafs will make the playoffs before the Oilers and by then Hall, Eberle, Pajaarvi and Hopkins will want to play for a real team and ask for a trade. But you guys are used to that, no??

~That's funny, 1990. Classic.

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#131 Yourmomthinksimhot
July 07 2011, 06:27PM
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Canadian hockey fans chirping eachother, would you want it any other way?!?! People are getting fired up, I love it!!!!

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#132 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
July 07 2011, 06:30PM
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Losers, Maple Leafs

Oilers future much brighter

Whitney, Hopkins, and,ummm,H.O.P.E.

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#133 Max Powers - Team HME Evans
July 07 2011, 07:54PM
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I now have a new appreciation for madjam's ridiculous comments after reading the last, like, 25 comments.

The Danis situation gives me sort of a Garon-esque vibe to it. Is that just cause they're both french? Maybe. But the frenchman with pedigree could wind up stealing the job from the vet just like back in '08.

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#134 justDOit
July 07 2011, 10:15PM
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leaf in 2012 wrote:

no hes from saskachewen. from fort saskachewwen. look at hockeydb. so hes not an edmonton looser. hes better then that.

hes better then any oiler player. there all bad players in edmonton. hahaaa ..who do they have?

kadri is better then any young player on edmonontom

my cats breath smells like cat food

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#135 Puritania
July 07 2011, 10:27PM
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justDOit wrote:

my cats breath smells like cat food

tastes like buuuur-ning.

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#136 Dutchscooter
July 07 2011, 10:37PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

My cat's name is Mittens.

Also Yann Danis is a fine signing.

That is all.

Sorry, someone beat me to it!

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#137 rindog
July 07 2011, 11:46PM
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Lowetide wrote:

bookie: Oilers management have (as WG suggests) always stood by Khabibulin. Either they believe it, or think we're idiots who can't see the game and read the stats.

They had no problems demoting Roloson's ass for Garon even though Rollie took them to the SCF's.

No sir. Steve Tambellini has constantly told us Khabibulin is the starter. I think it's reasonable to suggest that at least some portions of the management group believe it now.

That's because Garon far outplayed Roli and gave MacT no choice (even though MacT resisted as long as humanly possible).

It should be noted that the following year it took MacT all of 5 games to give Roli back the #1 job after Garon EARNED it...

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