Ask Larry Gordon

Lowetide
August 01 2011 08:40AM

Every once in a long while everything comes together and magic happens. Law & Order, The Simpsons, the Rolling Stones, Jill Hennessey's parents. Once in a long while chemistry, the Gods and Darwin get it just right.

In the summer of 1967, the Boston Bruins were a poor hockey club. Sure they had an emerging Bobby Orr (the best player in the game's history before Robbie Schremp) but he was just a kid; that summer, the Bruins lost future HOFer Bernie Parent to the expansion draft (Milt Schmidt made a big mistake). Between 1960 and 1967, the Bruins missed the playoffs every single season--and four teams out of six made it!

EARLY DAYS of a CLUSTER

The thing about truly great teams is that you don't necessarily know they're great until they start winning Stanley's. The Bruins can look back on the Phil Esposito trade (summer 1967, just before the expansion draft) and know it was a turning point, but little did they know that beginning in 1967-68 the team would win 2 Stanley's, play in 7 finals by 1990 and finish in the playoffs from 1968 to 1996 inclusive.

Oiler fans can look back on the Gretzky plane ride, the 79-81 entry drafts or maybe the period where Glen Sather emerged from a group of candidates to become Pocklington's "hockey man." Either way, a trip through history can show us the beginnings of all dynasties: Bruins (Espo trade); Habs (Pollock writes the expansion draft rules, 1967); Oilers (99, those wonder drafts), Islanders (drafting Potvin and about 30 WHLers 1972-76).

Then there are miles and miles of teams that should have made the step forward but never did it. Since expansion in 1967, the early 70s Rangers (GAG line, found Eddie Giacomin in the AHL), the 70s Hawks (found an entire team of excellent players in the NCAA), the 80s North Stars (great procurement, Ciccarelli wasn't even drafted!), the 80s Bruins and 80s Flyers (great drafts and trades, Brian Propp must still have nightmares about the Oilers from that era). They never won the Stanley despite doing everything right and spening a large number of years "in the window" of opportunity. Their impact clusters burned out and there were no championships to show for it. This is also a possible outcome for the current Oilers kids. However, they could also romp through the next decade and post the second golden era of Oiler hockey.

DYNASTY?

Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves. The Oilers are a 30th place team twice over and I don't think the playoffs are just around the corner. Still, the groundwork for an excellent team rolling out over the next decade is near completion, with only a few wise trades, some impressive UFA signings and the right coach (he may already be here) to be added; mix in some maturity for the cluster and you're good to go!

Even now we can begin to make the list of things that went right for this team (no matter the outcome of the playoffs 2013-2025):

  1. The Oilers have three draft picks in rd 1 of the 2007 draft and emerge with one hockey player. This paves the way for Stu (Magnificent Bastard) MacGregor to be elevated to the role of chief scout.
  2. Daryl Katz mentions the word rebuild sometime during the summer/fall of 2009.
  3. Taylor Hall is drafted.
  4. Hall, Eberle, Paajarvi, Omark, Dubnyk, Peckham and Petry all emerge during the same season.
  5. Oilers draft RNH, making it two number one overall picks in a row. The last time an NHL team drafted two forwards #1 overall in consecutive seasons the foundation was being laid for the Colorado Avalanche team that won some Stanley's.

There are other items we can check off moving forward: when the Oilers see an impact defender arrive (he might already be in the system--we don't know) or when the Oilers finally find their starting goalie for the next several seasons. And history also offers us cautionary tales--Schmidt lost several goaltenders during the Bruins run (Parent in 67; Daniel Bouchard in 72's expansion draft to Cliff Fletcher and the Atlanta Flames; Gerry Cheevers to the WHA) and the North Stars kept trying to draft the perfect American instead of finding the best hockey players.

However, the talent level of the top end for the Oilers currently is outstanding. They may never win the Stanley, but the playoffs are very likely by spring 2013 and if they can find a goaltender before then the Oilers might just make the second season way ahead of schedule.

EASY ON THE EYES

This edition of the Oilers is going to be a lot of fun to watch. Like the 80s Oilers, this will be a high octane offensive team that maybe cheats a little too much for offense. The job of MBS and the pro scouts is to find a Charlie Huddy and a Randy Gregg to add to the drafted kids; the job of Steve Tambellini is to solve the goaltending and yes fix the defense. He also must find a way to sign these kids under the cap (no easy task).

The big item now is goaltending. It is an extreme disappointment that no effort was made in this regard over the summer. Timing your surge seems a little crazy, especially for an NHL General Manager. Tomorrow is promised to no one.

Ask Larry Gordon.

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#1 OilFan
August 01 2011, 08:43AM
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FIST! Now I'll read article. Sure the Oilers could use a good shutdown dman, there is no reason to think Tambo hasn't tried ? Also I think Teddy Peckham will be that guy with more edge.

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#2 Sheldon "Oilers Fan for Life!!!"
August 01 2011, 08:58AM
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I think the problems can be worked out to were we will be very competitive.Will we hang another banner in our arena? That really depends on chemistry, D-fence and goal-tending. That is still a lot of ifs but I still would not trade our Oilers for any others team in the NHL especially Vancouver. I want to see those kids grow up and witness how far they can go.

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#3 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
August 01 2011, 09:18AM
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Thanks for the Jill pics

Memories of seventeen

when I dated her.

* LT, you put a smile on my face this morning...PROPS TO YOU GOOD SIR :)

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#4 pelhem grenville
August 01 2011, 09:21AM
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...LT and Jill up a tree

K. I. S. S. I. N. G.

now i'll read ur piece

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#5 revingev
August 01 2011, 09:23AM
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great article Lowetide! Some may say it's just us Oiler fans dreaming, but truth is...our current roster of young players has made us the envy of many General managers.

While it is true, nothing is certain in regards to winning a Stanley Cup anytime soon, we definately have a exciting team. I unlike some others am a spectator who wants to be entertained and that does not always include having to win. Granted a win here or there helps....but a exciting game where emotions are all over the map, is what makes Hockey truly the greatest game on earth for me.

I find this article quite timely, as it is the slowest time of year (as I wait patiently for the Penticton Tourney) and getting my mind back on some good ol anticipation of what we can and might do as a Organization this year really helps with my oiler SUMMER fix!

what players am I most excited about seeing this year?

1)Hall, Eberle, Omark, RNH, Parjarvi, Hartikanen, Petry, Whitney,

2)Smyth, Barker, Dubynk, Gagner, Hemsky , Peckam

while I know afew may not even play with the big club or very short stints this year, it's a exciting year that is about to come....

thanks Lowetide, for feeding my addiction this summer!

off to see some Oiler prospects this Saturday at Rexall!

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#6 Zed
August 01 2011, 09:25AM
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Even if these guys don't win a Stanley in the next 10 years (which would suck), at least they'll be better than the Flames.

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#7 Benjammin
August 01 2011, 09:26AM
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Jill Hennessey. :) Good article too. I think the plan is to draft again in the top 10. Tambellini filled just enough gaps to prove that he was aware of them (and hence left them empty on purpose for at least a season). So given that he is aware of at least the goaltending problem and the availability of goaltenders in todays market, then the plan must be to not be too good this season. I think management wants some success, so as not sour the players and fanbase, but they realize the development curve of the kids will more likely lead to wins next season rather than this one.

I am hoping that the excitement level will rise as the kids start strutting their stuff and that UFA's will begin to notice something special is going on here. Then we will see talent come and sign reasonable contracts.

Let's have one more lottery pick, but after that they had better damn the torpedoes, because it'll the a large dog's lifetime since this city has seen a playoff game and the kids will need a couple of years of playoff seasoning before making a serious run.

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#8 @NateInVegas
August 01 2011, 09:38AM
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Totally disagree here LT, Jill Hennessey? I thought you were better than that...

How would this article apply to the Flyers off season?

I'm all for playing exciting hockey but, I'd like the Oilers play responsible 5-5 hockey.

If the Oilers are going to take chances this year it should be on the PP with 4 forwards.

Playoffs? Are you kidding me??? Playoffs???

I just hope we win a game.

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#9 Quinn the Eskimo
August 01 2011, 09:41AM
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I'm trying really hard not to look too far down the road. I really want to savour the journey. I want to sit down in front of the telly once in a while and love what I'm seeing, and since they cancelled 'The Wire', it has to be the Oilers. Just give me interesting hockey, boys.

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#11 pelhem grenville
August 01 2011, 09:50AM
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...nice trip down memory lane LT... the sixties were an exciting time for young hockey players like me...being able to go to games at MapleLeafGardens for every home game in the early sixties was very eye opening...for the life of me i can't remember Bernie Parent as a Bruin...guess it was because i couldn't take my eyes off number 4...his game was unreal different and none of us young players could understand why he played D when he played like a forward...i remember my coach at school used to say to me and my defense partners "play like Orr and you are benched"..."we have forwards that play up so stay back and play your position..."

so i decided to play more like Moose Vasko...pity

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#12 pelhem grenville
August 01 2011, 09:58AM
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...and Larry Gordon? ...is it just me or is he a dead ringer for Walt Disney

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#13 a lg dubl dubl
August 01 2011, 10:30AM
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It sure would be great to see the Oilers do what the Avs did a couple seasons ago and get into the playoffs this yr, yes injuries have to be down,waaay down, and Khabby has to win 15-20 games this yr along with 25-30 from DD but it can be done!! At the very least i would like to see meaningful hockey come march and push for the playoffs.

Jill Hennessy is all kinds of yum!!

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#14 magisterrex
August 01 2011, 10:40AM
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Who could have bad words about Jill Hennessy?

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#15 @NateInVegas
August 01 2011, 11:05AM
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http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/lineup/

Listen to Cablination

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#17 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
August 01 2011, 11:13AM
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@ Lowetide

Cool Avatar man

That's a great movie, classic

"You'll put your eye out"

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#18 Walter Sobchak
August 01 2011, 11:17AM
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I seen Jill Hennessy at the folk fest last year. she's a looker.

I'm still on the fence on some issue's with the Oilers that could make this rebuild go south or depending on what Tambo does.

Hemsky's contract or the ability to sign Hemsky to a long term contract before the season starts.

A true top two defender. A stud defense men.

A legit number one goal tender, and a lottery pick for next year.

simple wish list.

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#19 Walter Sobchak
August 01 2011, 11:17AM
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I seen Jill Hennessy at the folk fest last year. she's a looker.

I'm still on the fence on some issue's with the Oilers that could make this rebuild go south or depending on what Tambo does.

Hemsky's contract or the ability to sign Hemsky to a long term contract before the season starts.

A true top two defender. A stud defense men.

A legit number one goal tender, and a lottery pick for next year.

simple wish list.

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#20 Walter Sobchak
August 01 2011, 11:17AM
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sorry double post

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#21 Mike
August 01 2011, 11:36AM
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"The last time an NHL team drafted two forwards #1 overall in consecutive seasons the foundation was being laid for the Colorado Avalanche team that won some Stanley's"

So all we need now is for Vancouver to trade us a disgruntled Luongo for a bag of pucks, and we're all set.

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#23 The Other John
August 01 2011, 11:43AM
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LT

Complete agree re your photographic selections. Does your wife never read your blogs?

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#24 a lg dubl dubl
August 01 2011, 11:47AM
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Mike wrote:

"The last time an NHL team drafted two forwards #1 overall in consecutive seasons the foundation was being laid for the Colorado Avalanche team that won some Stanley's"

So all we need now is for Vancouver to trade us a disgruntled Luongo for a bag of pucks, and we're all set.

Heck no we dont need Luongo! he choked in the finals and he's choked in the playoffs before that too. The Oilers need DD or another goalie that wont do that when the pressure is on.

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#26 @NateInVegas
August 01 2011, 12:08PM
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I try to support the former Jim Rome Show contributors that work in radio.

Travis read my ridiculous emails and took my calls for years. The least I can do is pump his tires now that he has his own show.

The most deplorable caller to the Jim Rome Show is my financial advisor.

I wouldn't exactly consider the "clones" friends, but pretty close to it.

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#27 Mitch
August 01 2011, 12:39PM
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@Lowetide

Yes the Oilers are shaping up to become a great team. Yes I'm concerned about goaltending, personally I would have taken a flyer on Emery, I feel the bad stuff is behind Emery. I'm also concerned about the Defense, Whitney is coming off major surgery and Barker is going to be a boom or bust. I'm not a Gilbert fan not even a little bit, way to soft for this team, Gilbert works as a good 5 on a deep team. They got young guys coming but could be 2-3yr away. At this point of development with Stu's drafting any pick will be a usefull NHLer in the first 2 rounds. I feel its really up to the coaches now to push these kids to become great. If we look at other teams, they have taken good players made them great, great players made them superstars. Tom Renney your on the clock.

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#29 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
August 01 2011, 01:02PM
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@NateInVegas wrote:

I try to support the former Jim Rome Show contributors that work in radio.

Travis read my ridiculous emails and took my calls for years. The least I can do is pump his tires now that he has his own show.

The most deplorable caller to the Jim Rome Show is my financial advisor.

I wouldn't exactly consider the "clones" friends, but pretty close to it.

Vic in No-Cal is your "financial advisor"??

*slowly shakes head in shame

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#30 Chris.
August 01 2011, 01:12PM
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@Lowetide

Any news on Viktor Fasth? (I'm more nervous about the Oiler goaltending situation than the 50 contract limit)

Is it possible the Lombardi situation is holding up a move? Does ST need to finalize the Fraser jettison before offering a tender another contract?

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#31 @NateInVegas
August 01 2011, 01:13PM
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Oilers G,

Greg Mcfarlane aka Greg in Vegas.

http://www.smackoff.net/Greg_in_Vegas/2006/

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#33 Chris.
August 01 2011, 01:17PM
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Further to that... Could ST address the greivance and finalize the Smyth deal by taking back Fraser and offering a better package to grab Quick as well?

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#34 a lg dubl dubl
August 01 2011, 01:21PM
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@Lowetide

I agree 100% LT, Dithers is showing to much faith in his "mvp",unless #35 has a vezina type yr I beleive ST wont be around in 2012/13, and only signing Danis for OKC still baffles me because I dont think Roy is ready for the AHL full time if Khabby or DD get hurt and Danis gets sent up. Maybe ST is waiting til TC or pre-season to see what he has in goal before making a move...let us pray thats what he's doin.

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#35 a lg dubl dubl
August 01 2011, 01:23PM
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@Chris.

I doubt Lomabardi is willing to trade with Tamby at this time please try again in the year 2210 lol ;)

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#37 book¡e
August 01 2011, 01:44PM
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Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate wrote:

Thanks for the Jill pics

Memories of seventeen

when I dated her.

* LT, you put a smile on my face this morning...PROPS TO YOU GOOD SIR :)

It must kind of suck for your life to peak at 17

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#38 Chris.
August 01 2011, 01:49PM
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Mike wrote:

"The last time an NHL team drafted two forwards #1 overall in consecutive seasons the foundation was being laid for the Colorado Avalanche team that won some Stanley's"

So all we need now is for Vancouver to trade us a disgruntled Luongo for a bag of pucks, and we're all set.

To Edmonton: Luongo and Vancouver's 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 first round draft choices.

To Vancouver: Brule, Khabibulin, and the Oilers 2015 7th round pick.

(This is the only scenario that makes sense at this time to pick up THAT contract)

I'm even kinda half serious about this.

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#39 AndrewMK20
August 01 2011, 01:49PM
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what are the chances the Oilers take a look at Colin White who was just placed on waivers?

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#41 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
August 01 2011, 03:45PM
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book¡e wrote:

It must kind of suck for your life to peak at 17

Best 5 months of my life...that is until I met the eventual mother of my children.

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#42 a lg dubl dubl
August 01 2011, 04:09PM
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AndrewMK20 wrote:

what are the chances the Oilers take a look at Colin White who was just placed on waivers?

But Colin White isn't a top 2 dman the Oil so desperately need ;)-

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#43 DBO
August 01 2011, 04:21PM
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Colin white is an upgrade on everyone but gilbert and whitney, plays a solid stay at home game and kills penalties, and has one yr at $3 mill on deal. he makes us better. Doing it makes too much sense

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#45 DBO
August 01 2011, 04:48PM
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We will have injuries, so more actual nhl players are important. Petry starts in minors and will be up within 20games. Chorney will clear waivers as no one wants him. Sutton becomes our 7th dman,and subs in for Barker if he struggles, or Peckham if he regresses.Makes too much sense. Hope someone at headquarters is awake and working right now.

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#46 a lg dubl dubl
August 01 2011, 05:23PM
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If the Oilers did grab White off waivers during the off-season do they only pay half his salary?

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#48 speeds
August 01 2011, 05:58PM
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Anyone picking up White picks up his full contract, this isn't a re-entry situation.

LT, I missed your show on Saturday, any idea when it'll be on the site?

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#50 Archaeologuy
August 01 2011, 10:54PM
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When are they bringing back Crossing Jordan? Whoever is keeping that on hold clearly hasnt read enough Lowetide.

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