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Lowetide
August 05 2011 08:01AM

Steve Tambellini did an excellent job on July 1st going up and down the aisles and crossing items off his shopping list. There are still a couple of items remaining: a legit top 4 defender (may not be coming) and a goaltender who can provide competition at the top end and insurance at the bottom end. The names are running out.

It's my opinion that the Oilers can make a claim that the blueline has been covered off well enough to enter training camp. The opening night depth chart might look like this:

  • Whitney-Barker
  • Smid-Gilbert
  • Peckham-Sutton
  • Chorney

Jeff Petry being the first callup. I think that's how the Oilers are slotting things, but will say that Jeff Petry has an enormous opportunity in the fall and I expect he'll make the team.

Who's out there?

Defensively, there are still some good options. Scott Hannan remains unsigned, Chris Campoli, Bryan McCabe and a few others who might be useful. I have no idea if the Oilers have interest in any of them, but would suggest that a guy like Hannan would improve the depth chart of the 11-12 Oilers.

There's no goalies left!

Well, yes there are. Their pricetag may be too dear, but Marty Turco, Pascal Leclaire and others are still available. I doubt the Oilers would sign an expensive option for the AHL#1-NHL #3 option, but someone like Mike Brodeur (in photo) might fit the bill.

I remain convinced the Oilers will not leave the terminal with the current goaltending. Brodeur is an AHL veteran, not the best goaltender available but this is late summer. Nolan Schaeffer and John Grahame are also available. Grahame is 35 but comes off an AHL season in which his SP (.911) and his playoff SP (.918) imply there's something left.

John Grahame might be a useful player for the 11-12 OKC Barons, and he could come in handy to the 11-12 Edmonton Oilers. We wait.

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#51 Ender
August 05 2011, 01:47PM
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@@Oilanderp

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#52 @Oilanderp
August 05 2011, 01:54PM
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@Ender

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#53 Mantastic
August 05 2011, 01:58PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Why is develop/evaluate our own the way to *really* fix the problem?

As far as I can tell their isn't a team out there that didn't sign or trade for a handful of significant pieces on their roster.

I'm pretty sure that if we want to really fix the problem we want to aquire as many good hockey players as possible that complement each other well.

because we have a lot of relatively high end defensive prospects that can play for our organization for a long period of time. it's not like there is any high-end talent left out there in in the FA market that will help us win a cup right away.

I'm pretty sure that if we want to really fix the problem we want to aquire as many good hockey players as possible that complement each other well.

duh?

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#54 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
August 05 2011, 02:09PM
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Mantastic wrote:

because we have a lot of relatively high end defensive prospects that can play for our organization for a long period of time. it's not like there is any high-end talent left out there in in the FA market that will help us win a cup right away.

I'm pretty sure that if we want to really fix the problem we want to aquire as many good hockey players as possible that complement each other well.

duh?

High end defensive prospects? We've got a handful of guys with with decent potential, but their really isn't a blue chip guy in the group.

Duh? Is right, you were the guy that balked at adding a quality player that has played top 4 minutes for years on a team superior to ours, and instead proclaimed that the only way to fix the team deam is through developing our own.

Duh

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#55 Ender
August 05 2011, 02:14PM
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Lolz. As if Phoenix didn't have enough problems.

If signing POS to your team doesn't make your fanbase want you to move away, I don't know what will.

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#56 Mantastic
August 05 2011, 02:24PM
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@OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

i was balking at the idea of adding white for 3m, not against adding a legit vet like hannah. i guess you should learn to read a little better.

duh.

yeah i guess we should screw developing our d prospects and sign guys like white!!!! what was i thinking.

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#57 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
August 05 2011, 02:45PM
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Mantastic wrote:

i was balking at the idea of adding white for 3m, not against adding a legit vet like hannah. i guess you should learn to read a little better.

duh.

yeah i guess we should screw developing our d prospects and sign guys like white!!!! what was i thinking.

No I knew what you mean, and frankly their isn't a whole lot to seperate White from Hannah.

Also love how that "screws their development", bunch of unsupported balogne.

White would more then likely be our 3rd best dman, and theirs really no reason he couldn't be a solid contributor for another 2 or 3 years.

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#58 D-Man
August 05 2011, 02:47PM
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Mantastic wrote:

i was balking at the idea of adding white for 3m, not against adding a legit vet like hannah. i guess you should learn to read a little better.

duh.

yeah i guess we should screw developing our d prospects and sign guys like white!!!! what was i thinking.

Normally, I don't agree with OB1, but signing guys like White to 1 year deals won't hurt our defensive prospects. That's why we took a risk on Barker - 1 year at a decent cap. Unless they have a spectacular camp, Teubert and Marincin are at least a year or two a way. Plante really hasn't shown that he's any better than a #6 or #7 in the big league.. Petry is potentially our only prospect that could make the big club right now - and even if he doesn't - getting a ton of ice time in OKC won't hurt his development... Unless your last name is Pronger or Doughty, playing an additional year in the minors won't stunt your development.

Now this doesn't mean you rush out and sign #4-6 d-men to stupid $$ amounts with multi-year deals either... That's why we won't be signing a veteran like hannah... If he (Hannah) is smart, he's looking at a multi-year deal for his last contract. If Tambo is smart, he'd avoid that..

With that in mind, our d-core is slightly better than last year. Granted - our defensive core is still bottom five and still relies heavily on a healthy Whitney, but we forget that we're still in a rebuild. We aren't going to be a contending team this year. This year, we aren't going to be much better than a 25th overall finish and ON needs to accept that.

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#59 TigerUnderGlass
August 05 2011, 03:19PM
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@@Oilanderp

I was away from my desk for a while, sorry I didn't respond, but I see Ender sorted you out there.

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#60 vetinari
August 05 2011, 03:21PM
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I hate to raise this, but maybe Tambi should be putting a call in to see if Nashville would part with Weber for one of our defencemen, and either a prospect (or two) or draft picks? He'd still be a RFA next summer and the Oil could squeeze him into their payroll. He would also certainly fill a need for the Oil and they have the cap room.

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#61 TigerUnderGlass
August 05 2011, 03:23PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

No I knew what you mean, and frankly their isn't a whole lot to seperate White from Hannah.

Also love how that "screws their development", bunch of unsupported balogne.

White would more then likely be our 3rd best dman, and theirs really no reason he couldn't be a solid contributor for another 2 or 3 years.

Haven't you figured it out yet?

Signing NHL players is no way to win hockey games. You must dress only players you've drafted and pray to the Hockey gods that all your picks max out their potential. Who cares if they aren't ready or capable yet. This is the one and only path to success in the NHL.

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#62 Ender
August 05 2011, 03:25PM
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vetinari wrote:

I hate to raise this, but maybe Tambi should be putting a call in to see if Nashville would part with Weber for one of our defencemen, and either a prospect (or two) or draft picks? He'd still be a RFA next summer and the Oil could squeeze him into their payroll. He would also certainly fill a need for the Oil and they have the cap room.

I can see why you'd hate to raise it.

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#63 D-Man
August 05 2011, 03:29PM
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vetinari wrote:

I hate to raise this, but maybe Tambi should be putting a call in to see if Nashville would part with Weber for one of our defencemen, and either a prospect (or two) or draft picks? He'd still be a RFA next summer and the Oil could squeeze him into their payroll. He would also certainly fill a need for the Oil and they have the cap room.

Why on earth would Nashville look at trading one of the best defenseman on the planet? Their low-balling on Weber's contract was simply a ploy to lower the arbitration result. They'll have Weber locked up to a multi-year deal before the end of this season.

The only way Nashville would talk to Edmonton for a Weber deal (which they won't, but if they did) - you're looking at dealing Hemsky probably Paajarvi and a 1st round draft pick. I even wonder if that would be enough - they might want Hall instead of Hemsky. Nashville needs help in their top two forward lines... They wouldn't be interested in prospects either... You'd have to give up a ton for Weber.

We're in a rebuild... Weber would improve this team to maybe 10th in the West and 20th overall... We aren't ready to land that big fish - assuming that fish was even available.

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#64 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
August 05 2011, 03:35PM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:

Haven't you figured it out yet?

Signing NHL players is no way to win hockey games. You must dress only players you've drafted and pray to the Hockey gods that all your picks max out their potential. Who cares if they aren't ready or capable yet. This is the one and only path to success in the NHL.

Truth

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#65 Mantastic
August 05 2011, 03:52PM
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@OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

personally i regard hannah and foote being the 2 most influential d-men for the avs winning the cup while white was much more a role player in his own right for njd cup runs.

and as you mentioned before, acquiring NHL players with good chemistry is what will make the team better, what would you make you think bringing in a guy like white would fit under both columns?

guys that will most likely be our 3rd best d-man, can be filled with a large amount of possible players does that mean we should be acquiring them at a high price?

p.s. take a look at our defensive depth for the whole organization and start slotting them for development/playing time and you will see where you'll run into a problem acquiring an "adequate 3rd best d-man" becomes a problem

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#66 Quicksilver ballet
August 05 2011, 03:57PM
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vetinari wrote:

I hate to raise this, but maybe Tambi should be putting a call in to see if Nashville would part with Weber for one of our defencemen, and either a prospect (or two) or draft picks? He'd still be a RFA next summer and the Oil could squeeze him into their payroll. He would also certainly fill a need for the Oil and they have the cap room.

Dialogue on this topic has to start at some point. The Oilers do have plenty to offer Nashville as compensation in a significant trade like this, i'm just not confident we have the guy in charge right now to do something like this. Steve Tambellini dreams of success, while other GM's wake and work hard towards it. The Predators are a bottom feeder franchise kept alive only by league revenue sharing. They'll be losing their star players like the Oilers were 10 yrs ago by operating at the cap floor for the forseeable future.

The timing on this is perfect as far as this Oiler team is concerned. It matters not how we get these higher end players, we just know we're screwed without having 3 or 4 of them in the lineup. Having Shea Weber in the lineup for the start of the 2012-2013 season would be the start of another great Oiler run, as long as it doesn't cost us a Hall, Hopkins or an Eberle.

Good on you Vetinari.

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#67 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
August 05 2011, 04:19PM
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@Mantastic

personally i regard hannah and foote being the 2 most influential d-men for the avs winning the cup while white was much more a role player in his own right for njd cup runs.

Hey you are certainly welcome to your opinion... but I think I'll take this one with a grain of salt considering that Hannah played for the Sharks when Colorado won the cup.

and as you mentioned before, acquiring NHL players with good chemistry is what will make the team better, what would you make you think bringing in a guy like white would fit under both columns?

I'm pretty confident theirs nothing to suggest he wouldn't find chemistry with the Oil.

guys that will most likely be our 3rd best d-man, can be filled with a large amount of possible players does that mean we should be acquiring them at a high price?

Well for one it wouldn't have been at a high price. For two, yes as long as it fits into the long term salary cap structure, a guy that would be our 3rd dman should be aquired, even if it is at a "high" price. Finally, if theirs lots of guys that could slot in as our #3....shouldn't that probably tell you that our D is pretty weak... and that we should probably aquire one of these guys??

p.s. take a look at our defensive depth for the whole organization and start slotting them for development/playing time and you will see where you'll run into a problem acquiring an "adequate 3rd best d-man" becomes a problem

I've looked at it and see no problem, what I do see as a problem though is waiting a few years and finding out we'll have a normal success ratio with our prospects... and then be left scratching our heads why we can't fill a competent Dcorp.

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#68 Jodes
August 05 2011, 09:32PM
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Speaking of career opportunities and a WTH moment:

GLENDALE, Ariz. (AP)—The Phoenix Coyotes have signed forward Patrick O’Sullivan(notes) to a one-year deal.

Financial terms were not disclosed.

O’Sullivan played 31 games with Carolina and Minnesota last season, scoring two goals with six assists. The 26-year-old from Winston-Salem, N.C., has 56 goals and 101 assists in parts of six seasons with four teams. He had career highs of 22 goals and 31 assists with the Los Angeles Kings in 2007-08.

O’Sullivan was drafted in the second round by Minnesota in 2003.

I'm sure what little fans Phoenix has is thrilled with this acquistion. Did they think by buying him out that they'd save money signing him as a free agent?

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